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October 29

Portal:Current events/2024 October 29

October 29, 2024 (2024-10-29) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip 29 October 2024 Beit Lahia strike At least 150 Palestinians are killed and 40 others are missing in Israeli strikes on a residential building in Beit Lahia in northern Gaza. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kyiv strikes, Eastern Ukraine campaign, Southern Ukraine campaign At least six people are killed and 13 others are injured in Russian overnight attacks in Kharkiv, Kherson and Kyiv, Ukraine. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Eight Austrian Army soldiers and peacekeepers are wounded when a rocket hits the UNIFIL headquarters in Naqoura, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Somali Civil War Al-Shabaab claims the killing of six businessmen over the installation of CCTV cameras in the Yaaqshiid District of Mogadishu, Somalia. (The Somali Digest) Disasters and accidents A hotel collapses in Villa Gesell, Argentina, leaving at least seven people trapped. (Reuters) Politics and elections Hezbollah announces that Naim Qassem has been elected as the new Secretary-General for the group, succeding Hassan Nasrallah after his assassination. (Al Jazeera) Germany's largest union and the dominant metalworkers union IG Metall commences a labor strike over the working conditions and wages of 3.9 million workers in the country. (DW)

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RD: Teri Garr

Article: Teri Garr (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Masem (t) 17:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Akua Donkor

Article: Akua Donkor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Citinewsroom
Credits:

• Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Heatrave (talk) 12:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Some minor grammar issues. Bremps... 18:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Ghanaian politician who was contesting 2024 General elections.

2021–present Bulgarian political crisis

Article: 2021–present Bulgarian political crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Free Europe, TVP World
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Given we are unlikely to post October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election as it hasn't broken the deadlock, and that we had an almost unprecedented 7 elections in 3 years all resulting in not much progress, perhaps it is worth adding this to ongoing. There is no rule saying that it has to be a military conflict or sporting event to be ongoing, a political crisis can be a good candidate for addition. Most recent election needs adding to the article. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Ongoing is meant for long-term events that are getting near-daily coverage in the media, not simply because its a long, drawn out event. The edit history of the target article shows it only really is active a couple times a year around elections and fails the ongoing requirement for ITN. --Masem (t) 11:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not a widely reported crisis and the coverage of this is only increasing at the time of the election. TNM101 (chat) 14:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Insufficient recent activity or significant events to merit posting to Ongoing at this time. Spencer^T•C 16:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Comment I think we should wait first and vote on the October election first before we consider going to Ongoing, my take personally though Ion.want.uu (talk) 18:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

October 28

Portal:Current events/2024 October 28

October 28, 2024 (2024-10-28) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Battle of Tyre At least seven people are killed in an Israeli raid and airstrikes on Tyre, Lebanon, which targeted neighborhoods adjacent to a UNESCO World Heritage site. (Al Jazeera) Israeli airstrikes kill at least 60 people and injure 58 others in the Beqaa Valley, Lebanon. (BBC) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kharkiv strikes At least 21 people are injured when Russian guided bombs and rocket artillery hit Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 United Kingdom riots British anti-Islam far-right activist Tommy Robinson is sentenced to eighteen months imprisonment for contempt of court and repeating false allegations about a Syrian refugee. (Reuters) The Iranian government executes the Iranian dissident holding German citizenship Jamshid Sharmahd. (BBC) Politics and elections Gaza humanitarian crisis Israel's Knesset votes 92–10 to ban the UNRWA from operating within Israel and the State of Palestine. (Al Jazeera) October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election The GERB-SDS coalition wins the most seats in the parliamentary election with 69 seats, with PP-DB coming in second and Revival in third. GERB's leader Boyko Borisov promises to work with everyone except Revival to form a coalition government. (Reuters) Sports 2024 Ballon d'Or In association football, Spanish players Rodri and Aitana Bonmatí win the Ballon d'Or and the Ballon d'Or Féminin, respectively. (CNN)

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RD: Jamshid Sharmahd

Article: Jamshid Sharmahd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deutsche Welle
Credits:

• Nominated by Zwerg Nase (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German-Iranian journalist executed in Iran yesterday Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article appears to be well sourced. TNM101 (chat) 14:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Support: Article is in good shape. Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Renato Martino

Article: Renato Martino (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Catholic News Agency, Vatican News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:550B:B06A:7D69:455A (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Roman Catholic cardinal. 240F:7A:6253:1:550B:B06A:7D69:455A (talk) 04:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Apostolic Nuncio section needs more references. Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

2024 Ballon d'Or

Article: 2024 Ballon d'Or (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Rodri wins the Ballon d'Or and Aitana Bonmatí wins the Ballon d'Or Feminin. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)

 Heatrave (talk) 22:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as it's just an individual award in a team sport. That's not very notable.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Support I disagree. This is the biggest individual award a player can win in association football. It is the award that determines the "best player" in the sport. Very notable as it pertains to association football, which is one of the biggest sports in the world.

  Heatrave (talk) 22:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Journalists voting for the "best player" in the world isn't very notable, and there's already criticism that it's not fair to single individuals in a team sport. Furthermore, we already post too many football stories every year so this one is really redundant. This is very similar to the NBA Most Valuable Player, which we've never posted and will probably never do.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality; article is mostly tables. However, I do find the tepid feeling of ITN towards this award to be odd. Last nominated in 2021 to heavy opposition, and not nominated since. I get the point of opposing individual sporting awards, but soccer/football is the world's largest sport and relevant in discussion in most countries in the world, and the Ballon is the sport's highest honor. I think this is particularly relevant in a sport where there are so many prominent leagues, as most sports the best league's MVP is considered the greatest player, but with soccer, the best player could be in England, France, Germany, Spain, etc. To this end, I do believe this item should merit some discussion, but there should be some expansion of the Ballon article, whether it ends up being the target or not. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• I have no issues on notability (it's the lead story on every sports page in Europe, and - especially in Spain - it's a leading news story as well), but the quality is lacking at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 09:07, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Paul Morrissey

Article: Paul Morrissey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American film director known for his early association with Andy Warhol. Thriley (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Support article has no problems at a glance. Rynoip (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

October 27

Portal:Current events/2024 October 27

October 27, 2024 (2024-10-27) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Arab–Israeli conflict 2024 Tel Aviv truck attack A man is killed and thirty others are injured in a vehicle-ramming attack when an Arab Israeli man rams his truck into a bus stop north of Tel Aviv, Israel, before being fatally shot by an armed civilian. Authorities are investigating the incident as a suspected terrorist attack. (BBC News) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi proposes a temporary two-day ceasefire in Gaza to exchange four Israeli hostages for several Palestinian prisoners. (Reuters) Sudanese Civil War 2024 eastern Gezira State massacres The United Nations condemns the Rapid Support Forces' targeted mass killing of civilians in Gezira State, Sudan, comparing it to earlier mass killings in Darfur. (BBC News) 2024 Bolivian protest Former Bolivian president Evo Morales claims that he survived an assassination attempt. (Reuters) Boko Haram insurgency At least 40 Chadian soldiers are killed during a mass shooting by Boko Haram gunmen against a military base near Ngouboua, Chad. (Rfi) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season The death toll from Tropical Storm Trami in the Philippines increases to 136 people killed and missing. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2024 Japanese general election Japanese citizens vote for the 465 seats in the House of Representatives. (NHK) The ruling coalition of the Liberal Democratic Party and Komeito loses its majority. (Reuters) 2024 Georgian parliamentary election President of Georgia Salome Zourabichvili announces that she does not recognize the official results of the election, alleging that the country has been the victim of a "Russian special operation". (Radio Free Europe) (Civil.ge) 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election The Social Democratic Party of Lithuania wins 52 seats in the Seimas election, forming a majority with its coalition partners "For Lithuania" and the Farmers and Greens Union. (DW) (Reuters) 2024 Uruguayan general election Uruguayan citizens vote for a President in the first round of the general election. (Reuters) October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election Bulgarian citizens vote for a new National Assembly in the country's seventh election in the past four years. (Euronews)

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RD: John F. Keenan

Article: John F. Keenan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American judge. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Fully referenced; adequate overview of notable cases he was involved with. Spencer^T•C 06:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

2024 Uzbek parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Uzbek parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Uzbekistan Liberal Democratic Party wins the 2024 Uzbek parliamentary election which was criticized for lack of opposition participation. (Post)
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
• Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, but it is ITN/R, the results are in and I added them Scuba 15:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Agree that the article needs work, a good nomination as the election is a recent news event. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  If the article needs work, why do you support the nomination at this time, Moondragon21? Or are you saying that despite work being necessary, this is in a suitable state to post? Schwede66 07:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  • • I'm saying it has potential. For example if expanded using the Uzbek article. Moondragon21 (talk) 12:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Evo Morales assassination attempt

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Article: Evo Morales (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former Bolivian president Evo Morales (pictured) survives an assassination attempt targeting his vehicle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former president of Bolivia, Evo Morales (pictured) survives an assassination attempt targeting his car.
News source(s): BBC News CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by MAL MALDIVE (talk · give credit)

Evo Morales was really popular. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - The section for the assassination attempt on Morales' article is currently only three sentences long. An expansion of the section might be needed before posting. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 08:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not important enough because he is former Bolivian president. Tradedia^talk 11:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Says here his driver (no name given) survived and Morales was just lucky to have not been shot at all (like most celebrities). InedibleHulk (talk) 11:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose at the current time, currently it is only Morales' claim that there was an assassination attempt, and while there is an investigation going on, we wouldn't take the word of just one person. --Masem (t) 12:09, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose not enough coverage or content. Scuba 14:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Event is not notable enough for an ITN blurb as he is a former president of Bolivia. Also, the section about the assassination attempt itself is far too short. TNM101 (chat) 16:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I note that we did post an attempted assassination of a former president not that long ago. However, this entire event has had no casualties of any kind and may in fact just be hearsay, so there's no merit in posting it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. Aside from his own statement, little information is known about this attempted assassination. Additionally, there is no separate article yet for the said attempt; in fact, the specific section in his article is still three sentences long as of this writing. Vida0007 (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
  • A separate article wouldn't necessarily be needed if there was little else to say. We do not need separate event articles for every event (this goes against NOTNEWS) — Masem (t) 01:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: It wouldn't be the first time that Evo Morales voices a conspiracy theory of evil people going after him. Unless there are further elements to back this, it's like the kid who cried wolf. Cambalachero (talk) 02:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Asian Netball Championships

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Article: 2024 Asian Netball Championships (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In netball, Singapore win the Asian Netball Championship by defeating Sri Lanka in the final. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In netball, the Asian Netball Championship concludes with Singapore defeating Sri Lanka in the final
News source(s): The Straits Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Singapore won the Asian Netball Championships title after a gap of 10 years and Asian Netball Championships is considered a high-profile tournament in netball after the World Cup. Abishe (talk) 00:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Removed ITN/R label only the World Cup is listed. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Article is nowhere close to expected standards to cover a tournament-type event. And given that netball does not have as great a follow as compared to assc. football or cricket, its hard to justify anything else but the ITNR World Cup item. Masem (t) 01:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality and notability Very niche single sex sport and this is not the top tier competition in it nor is it a worldwide event. Furthermore the article is very poor quality, short, missing subsections, sections which are just stat dumps, paragraph spacing all over the place, the lead constitutes most of the article, sections are incomplete, no description of the finals and many, many other quality issues. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment@Abcmaxx: I added the description of the final match. Will address the concerns as per everyone's wishes. Abishe (talk) 02:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not important enough as a sporting event. Tradedia^talk 11:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article and especially the description of the Final fails WP:NPOV. Also not sure about the inclusion of only India and Sri Lanka's squads in the article. Furthermore, as Abcmaxx mentioned, not a top tier competition for a single gender sport and lacks significant mainstream coverage.TNM101 (chat) 14:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as far as I can tell this is a regional sporting event which isn't ITN notable. Scuba 15:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - This is not the top tier, nor is this regional contest particularly outstanding. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Social Democrats, led by Vilija Blinkevičiūtė (pictured), win the Lithuanian parliamentary elections after the second round. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Results have been announced. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support article looks in good shape. Scuba 01:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support on significance as this will no doubt result in a change in government, with the Social Democrats returning to power after 8 years in opposition. Oppose on quality for now as the article could still do with some work; two sections are orange tagged and the lead is absurdly short for an election article. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Significance is certainly there per WP:ITNELECTIONS, and especially since this is a complete upheaval of the government. As for the article's quality: I took care of one of the two orange-tagged sections mentioned by Grnrchst. I will admit that the article is dominated by tables and numbers, but that is typical for an article on an election. It would be nice to have a bit more prose concerning issues such as the background of the election, the course of the campaign, and stances taken by parties / arguments made in debates. Currently the background section provides an inkling of this, but given that it glosses over "the COVID-19 pandemic in Lithuania, 2020–2021 Belarusian protests and the Belarus–European Union border crisis and the Russian invasion of Ukraine" in one sentence there is definite room for improvement. Overall I'd say the quality is sufficient though. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election

Article: October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ GERB–SDS wins the most seats in the October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election, however, fails to break the country's long running political deadlock (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ GERB–SDS wins a plurality in the Bulgarian parliamentary election
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
• Created by Number 57 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs to be updated with results and aftermath. But it is ITN/R. Scuba 19:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: This is the seventh parliamentary election since 2021, however we still see status quo remains unchanged, I do not know when (or how many parliamentary elections) will Bulgaria resolve this situation. Haers6120 (talk) 20:00, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support Bulgarian elections, set your watch to 'em This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment We should probably invoke WP:IAR to omit this election’s results, despite the fact it’s an ITN/R item, and post when the next government will be formed. Seventh parliamentary election in three years with a turnout below 40% says enough that this is just a routine event that even the majority of Bulgarians don’t care about. Note that the results, according to the exit polls, don’t suggest drastic changes compared to the previous election.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  regardless, as per ITN/R, all national elections including this one, deserve ITN status. Scuba 01:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  Unless we ignore that rule. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, sorry, got a little confused reading your comment earlier. Scuba 13:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose IAR on the ITN/R here until they actually make progress towards forming a government, this will be the seventh time this has come up in the last 3 years. RachelTensions (talk) 04:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

altblurb aas succinct.2A00:F3C:A282:0:352B:A597:2C95:67BA (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now If a government is successfully formed, then I'd support a blurb at a later date. But as of now, unfortunately Bulgaria having another election isn't big news. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Election results with plurality are not unusual.Sportsnut24 (talk) 11:09, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

No, but this is the seventh election the country has had in 3 years, because none of them have resulted in the formation of stable governments. If a Bulgarian election results in the formation of a government, that is what would be newsworthy. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I am supporting using WP:IAR here and posting the next election where a government is actually being formed with a majority. TNM101 (chat) 15:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Japanese general election

Article: 2024 Japanese general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2024 Japanese general election, the LDP-led ruling coalition loses its majority in the House of Representatives. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The long-ruling LDP despite winning the 2024 Japanese general election, loses its majority in the House of Representatives.
News source(s): Reuters, BBC News, FNN, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Haers6120 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Updated: now clearly, the LDP-led coalition lost its majority held since 2012 (by NHK Japan) , this election is the most significant Japanese general election in at least 10 years. Haers6120 (talk) 15:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: There is already the possibility that the LDP could re-invite some of the independents they removed from the party (Its in many discussions in news sources), which could give them a option of a majority, but all votes need counted to be sure. And both apposing main parties are also likely to attempt to get a majority by trying to work with smaller parties, so this maybe isn't as clear cut as say, 2024 UK general election. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

For sure, it is too early to say that the government formation; nevertheless, it is the first time since the 2012 election that the LDP-led coalition failed to win a comfortable majority in the House of Representatives. Haers6120 (talk) 17:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

It no longer looks like the LDP have a chance from the ballot box, the current count now has the opposition as crossing the 233 threshold. But, with some off the cuff math, with 22 undeclared seats, and around ten ish independents the LDP could take back, its gonna be a close "win" for either side. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

That's why this election is significant :)

By the way, this NHK election portal (although in jp) may provide more up-to-date election result info. Haers6120 (talk) 17:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I do think math wise, in the end, even with changes, it will likely lean CDP and all other parties, but it may just be split house. Although, with three seats left, it kinda looks like the final total could be a 214-251, which, even with some flips of independents, would not be enough for LDP to have 233. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

The Ishin (JIP) may become the kingmaker. Haers6120 (talk) 18:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Ishin already said their not going the LDP's way, so likely.... TheCorriynial (talk) 18:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

It's hard to say, given the significant ideological differences between CDP and JIP, the JIP may reverse its decision during the coalition talks. But still we never know. Haers6120 (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Point aside, its now pretty clear LDP have lost. TheCorriynial (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt 99.21% of the vote is in, these are the results give or take a half percentage or so. LDP will need to either form a coalition or rule via a minority. Somewhat big news for Japanese politics. Regardless, it is a national election and ITN/R, and the quality of the article is good enough for inclusion. Scuba 15:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support National elections are ITN/R and we post elections with less than 99% of the vote in all the time. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support The votes have been counted and LDP-Komei only has 215 seats. With the isshin refusing I can already see LDP getting knocked out temporarily. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 22:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment, the infobox need be changed as it is missing Social Democratic Party who won 1 seat but is not included. Shadow4dark (talk) 00:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Komeito should be mentioned in the blurb. GodzillamanRor (talk) 01:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait on original blurb, oppose altblurb it looks like this election will result in a hung parliament, with a CDP coalition or minority looking likely. Altblurb in this case would be wrong. Aydoh8^[contribs] 02:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait a little bit on original blurb The LDP PM is giving a press conference at 14:00 JST today. It's possible he could resign, in which case we could roll this blurb in with his resignation. In any case, it will likely take days to form a coalition, so I don't think there is any sense in waiting beyond today to post. Ishiba said in his press conference he's not resigning (for now). I think we're good to post this. Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 02:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait a little on original blurb - per Basil the Bat Lord's reasoning. MiasmaEternal☎ 03:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support on significance. The LDP losing its majority is big news. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support because the LDP losing its majority is rare, and the CDP had its best results in party history. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 11:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support, given the LDP having a majority for so much of the post-war period. John Smith's (talk) 17:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support the first blurb, as that looks to be in line with the standard form for parties that lose their parliamentary majorities but not exactly losing power (yet). I do not have problems with regards to the target article itself; the election article looks good to me. Vida0007 (talk) 00:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Spencer^T•C 06:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

October 26

Portal:Current events/2024 October 26

October 26, 2024 (2024-10-26) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2024 Iran–Israel conflict October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran Israel launches airstrikes against Iran, with explosions reported in Tehran and Karaj according to Iranian state media. Four soldiers are killed. (Sky News) (Reuters) (Axios) The Israel Defense Forces says that it is carrying out "precise strikes on military targets in Iran" in response to recent ballistic missile attacks launched from Iran. (The Telegraph) Sudanese Civil War 2024 eastern Gezira State massacres At least 300 people are killed when the Rapid Support Forces attack several villages in Gezira State, Sudan. (Al Arabiya) Sistan and Baluchestan insurgency Ten police officers are killed by Jaish ul-Adl gunmen in a mass shooting on a police convoy in Sistan and Baluchestan province, Iran. (AP) Somali Civil War An IED planted by Al-Shabaab in a restaurant in Karan district, Mogadishu, Somalia, kills at least five people and injures at least five others. (The Somali Digest) (Hiiraan Online) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season The death toll from the flooding and landslides caused by Tropical Storm Trami in the Philippines increases to at least 126. (UPI) Nineteen people are killed and five others are injured when a bus crashes on a highway in Zacatecas, Mexico, while heading from Nayarit to Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua. (Reuters) Law and crime Killing of Odair Moniz Portuguese police activate special security protocols in response to two large demonstrations in Lisbon following the fatal shooting of a Cape Verdean immigrant by a police officer in Amadora on Monday, which resulted in widespread riots. (RTP News) Politics and elections 2024 Georgian parliamentary election Georgians vote for the 150 seats of the parliament. (BBC News) Opposition parties refuse to accept early results indicating the ruling Georgian Dream party's victory, and accuse it of election fraud. Exit polls published by pro-government and pro-opposition TV channels show each camp leading respectively. (DW News)

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(Posted) 2024 Georgian parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Georgian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The parliamentary election in Georgia results in no clear winner amid allegations of ballot stuffing and voter intimidation. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Georgian Dream wins the parliamentary election in Georgia amidst allegations of voting irregularities.
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: The most important election in the nation's history and key turning point. Everyone has declared themselves the winner, increasingly quite clear the vote wasn't entirely fair which was expected given the ruling party's past comments and links to Russia. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:45, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose on quality as the more you scroll down into the page the more unsourced paragraphs you see, especially in lines describing the parties themselves. Maybe some of them would be better off as excerpts? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 21:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I only see a few citation needed tags though? It looks well sourced to me but it is a long article. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

For instance check the Labour Party section towards the end. It's got only a single source, less than what I would consider ideal for a current election article. On other aspects of quality though it's looking good with 284 sources and plenty of prose. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

There will be protests tomorrow (today), nevertheless with over 90% counted, GD has won. It's not gonna be a Moldovan colored revolution like a decade+ ago. Also fitting both get on there. support.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Although there are little bit of cn tags, the article is well sourced and well written. I dont think and article with over 200 references is of low quality, comparing to just 6 cn tags. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  I have improved the cn tags now. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support, quite an important election regionally and geopolitically. Article good enough. Nsk92 (talk) 12:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait if I understand the results right, there's still no clear winner by the counts and that's still happening so an "official" result will be known in a day or so. Of course, one party appears to be claiming victory, another is claiming the election was stolen, and looks like protests are likely. This would also help to expand the results and aftermath sections, which are nowhere close to the quality to capture the confusion in the wake of the election. --Masem (t) 14:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  Like with any foreign political involvement or electoral fraud cases we may never know the true winner though, so the result is unlikely to be clear regardless of what happens now. If there are widespread protests then it would likely require a separate article anyway, like post-Belarussian elections did. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  There would be an announced winner, though whether that's considered legitimate or not should be discussed should that be an issue, but it's not like, say, 2000 with Bush v Gore holding up the results of the elections. The count needs to be finished and the results announced. If it were a result too close to call, requiring further vote counting or secondary elections, that would be a story. But it still seems that the vote counting is still ongoing, its too close for anyone to neutrally be declared a winner. — Masem (t) 20:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  We always accept the results announced by the official authority, which, in this case, is the Central Election Commission (CEC). If the results were falsified and the election was stolen, the CEC should take appropriate actions. What the international community thinks is completely irrelevant as this election is an internal affair of Georgia. At the end of the day, the Georgian state authorities decide whether the country will move in a pro-Western or pro-Russian direction. Our business here is to post the election results per ITN/R. I personally don’t care what’s their choice as it doesn’t affect me too much. I visited the country last year, and it’s really very beautiful with rich culture, majestic landscapes and very delicious cuisine.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Support regardless of if the (clearly faked) results are challenged, this is the result of the election. We posted the Russian election, no reason why we wouldn't post this either. Ensuing protests can be their own blurb later down the road. Scuba 19:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment With 99.96% of the votes counted, Georgian Dream won 89 out of 150 seats in the Georgian parliament. How does this suggest that there’s no clear winner?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  The vote wasn't fair and hasn't been accepted by election observers nor the opposition when there are different voting outcomes claimed by pretty much everyone involved. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  As I mentioned in my comment above, we accept the results announced by the election authority (in this case, the Central Election Commission), not what the opposition or the international observers say, and this is exactly what is used in the article’s infobox and body. If there’s a more reliable vote counter, it should be in the article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Support and added altblurb. Georgian Dream seems to be the winner, but noted that the election is in dispute. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 01:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Posted the ALT blurb. Schwede66 07:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Israel strikes Iran

Article: October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israel launches missile strikes across Iran in retaliation for earlier Iranian strikes in Israel this month. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Israel conducts air strikes in western Iran in retaliation for Iranian strikes on Israel earlier this month.
News source(s): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-iran-strike-retaliation-live-updates-rcna177303
Credits:

• Nominated by GeorgeMemulous (talk · give credit)
• Created by HadesTTW (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit), Brandon Downes (talk · give credit) and Flemmish Nietzsche (talk · give credit)

Another development in the Iran - Israel proxy conflict. Not so much proxy any more, however. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Wait, lean oppose. This isn't the first time Israel attacked Iran this year, and that time proved to be bloodless. We shouldn't promote this unless if Israel does a full scale invasion of Iran or vice versa. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 00:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  Islamic Republic in Iran also lunched more than one bloodless missle attack on Israel and we did cover them both times, why the second Israeli attack is less important? This is acctually the first time in the history that Israel lunched a major scale, direct attack on Iranian soil. 3000MAX (talk) 01:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yes it was the the first. That alone makes it notable. 'supportSportsnut24 (talk) 03:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Wait there are reports that there are more attacks ongoing. We should wait until the strikes are over and see the damage. If there are widespread attacks or attacks on important targets, we should post, but otherwise, we should consider taking Israel-Hamas+Hezbollah off of Ongoing and put in Iran-Israel proxy conflict Personisinsterest (talk) 02:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait and see what develops. It's too soon to write an article while information is so thin. Jehochman ^Talk 02:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support: The most sustained attack the Islamic Republic of Iran has come under since the Iran-Iraq War, and a major news story. The article has been fleshed out substantially since the earlier votes to 'wait'. ENEvery (talk) 16:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This is just the latest operation in a conflict that has been hot for a year now. The blurb gets it wrong because it talks of missile strikes rather than air strikes. And the article has a big section about a supposed intelligence leak with zero citations. It doesn't appear that today's operation is anything special -- just some softening up -- and so it's best left to Ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  Comment: Air strikes can be carried out with missiles, and it's my understanding that these strikes were; but perhaps the blurb should just be rewritten rather? ENEvery (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  The article says "over 100 aircraft, including F-35 Lightning II "Adir" stealth fighters, traveled roughly 2,000 kilometres (1,200 mi) for the attack, deploying heavy munitions ... followed by a second wave of drone strikes targeting the Parchin military complex on Tehran's outskirts". There's no mention of Israel specifically using missiles. The blurb should summarise the article, not get creative. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Respectfully disagree with Andrew. Iran has put out a statement that it will have "no limits" or safety guards in response to what it views as a major escalation by Israel (with no comment whether that is a fair assessment or not). It is a major escalation between two nuclear powers. To torpedo the nomination because it is a "hot" conflict is circular logic... "hot" topics and "hot" conflicts are what make global news headlines. That's precisely the reason it belongs on ITN. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  Iran said this was a major escalation? The article currently says almost the opposite. Bitspectator ⛩️ 19:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  I have to agree with Bitspectator. Iran's argument is the opposite: that it was a minor assault that barely affected Iran's military. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  It was highly restrained and minor. Nevertheless, as the first official attack that is notable.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support. There are military casualties, there may be answer and far going consequences. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Suggestion and comment: Change wording of blurb from "missile strikes" to "air strikes". I've already indicated my support for posting this on ITN, but I'm unsure of the correct protocol for editing the blurb. May I edit it myself, or is that the nominator's prerogative? This story is already nearly two days old; considering both previous direct attacks by Iran on Israel, and Israel's previous attack on Iran, made it to ITN rather quickly, it seems strange that this much more major attack is still languishing here in nominations. ENEvery (talk) 12:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - there's nothing unusual about this anymore. Perhaps a single ongoing for the various wars between Iran plus proxies against Isreal. No prejudice raising this again if one side uses nukes. Nfitz (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  it is the first attack on Iranian soul after more then 35 years by a foreign state, the first time that Israel attack Iran in the history. The fitst time that iran's official army face casualties in its conflict against Israel. 3000MAX (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  Israel has killed or wounded quite a few Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Syria, but yeah, two out of three elements ain't routine. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  Iran. They have never attacked Iran before.Sportsnut24 (talk) 11:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  Israel's "liberated" Iranian souls from Iranian soil before, but this is the first time (that I remember) an official confirmation or denial. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is of the same level of importance as other similar events that we blurbed in the past. Tradedia^talk 11:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article of adequate quality and depth; first direct Israeli attack on Iran. Spencer^T•C 06:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

October 25

Portal:Current events/2024 October 25

October 25, 2024 (2024-10-25) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Siege of Jabalia Kamal Adwan Hospital siege Israeli troops storm the Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabalia in the Gaza Strip. (Reuters) Three Israeli soldiers from the Armored Corps are killed in an IED blast in Jabalia in the Gaza Strip. (Haaretz) Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip Israeli airstrikes in Gaza kill 72 people, including at least 38 in Khan Younis. (Reuters) Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive, Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine reports that the first North Korean units have entered the active "warzones" in Russia's Kursk Oblast. The North Korean soldiers are reportedly under the command of Deputy Defence Minister Yunus-bek Yevkurov. (Yonhap News Agency) Dnipro strikes A Russian missile attack on a residential area in Dnipro, central Ukraine, kills five people and injures 21 others. (AP) Kyiv strikes, Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine One person is killed and five others are injured when a Russian drone strikes a residential building in Solomianskyi District, Kyiv, Ukraine. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Two people are killed and six others are injured when a rocket fired from Lebanon hits a building in the town of Majd al-Krum in northern Israel. (The Jerusalem Post) Two cameramen and a technician working for Al Mayadeen and Al-Manar are killed and several other people are injured when an Israeli airstrike hits a guest house housing journalists in Hasbaya, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) The Israeli Air Force strikes the Syrian military-controlled Jusiyah–Qaa border crossing on the Lebanon–Syria border, accusing Hezbollah of using the border crossing to transfer weapons from Syria. (The Times of Israel) Kurdish–Turkish conflict 2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack The Kurdistan Workers' Party claims responsibility for Wednesday's attack on the headquarters of the Turkish Aerospace Industries in Ankara Province, Turkey, which killed five people and injured dozens of others, saying that the attack had been "planned for a long time". (France 24) A police officer is killed and another is injured in a stabbing attack at a police station in Bosanska Krupa, Bosnia and Herzegovina. The perpetrator, a 15-year-old boy, is arrested. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season The death toll from Tropical Storm Trami's landfall in central and northern Philippines increases to 76 people, with more than 320,000 people evacuated. (Al Jazeera) The number of people who have become ill in an E. coli outbreak linked to McDonald's Quarter Pounder hamburgers in the United States increases to 75. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 CrowdStrike-related IT outages Delta Air Lines files a lawsuit against cybersecurity company CrowdStrike after Crowdstrike's global outages in July forced the airline to cancel more than 7,000 flights, costing Delta Air Lines over $500 million. (Reuters) A high court in Gulu, Uganda, sentences former Lord's Resistance Army commander Thomas Kwoyelo to 40 years in prison on 44 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity, including enslavement, torture, and rape. (DW) A man fatally shoots two of his family members before killing himself in Huntsville, Ontario, Canada. (CTV News Barrie) Politics and elections 2024 Kiribati presidential election Citizens of Kiribati vote for the President between three candidates, incumbent Taneti Maamau, Bautaake Beia from the Tobwaan Kiribati Party, and independent Kaotitaake Kokoria. (The Nikkei) Ontario Premier Doug Ford's government announces that Ontario is planning to ban international students from medical schools in the province beginning in 2026. (Pelham Today) Sports 2024 Major League Baseball season 2024 World Series In baseball, Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Freddie Freeman hits the first ever walk-off grand slam in World Series history to win the first game of the 2024 World Series against the New York Yankees. (Fox News)

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RD: Jim Donovan

Article: Jim Donovan (sportscaster) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American sportscaster. Spencer^T•C 04:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Phil Lesh

Article: Phil Lesh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by DriveAllKnight (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)

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Bassist and occasional singer in the Grateful Dead. DriveAllKnight (talk) 19:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Wait and see if the article can be improved. There is a lot of unsourced content, but that can now be got from obituaries. There are a number of citations to Lesh's autobiography that need page numbers. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Support now the article has been cleaned up. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 20:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Abdelaziz Barrada

Article: Abdelaziz Barrada (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News Morocco World News
Credits:

• Nominated by TNM101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Moroccan Footballer. Another recent footballer death.TNM101 (chat) 15:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as incomplete per WP:ITNRD and WP:ITNQUALITY. A page must be "Updated, including reliably sourced confirmation of their death"; "Articles should be a minimally comprehensive overview of the subject, not omitting any major items". He played for five clubs after Marseille and that's not mentioned at all, even the bare minimum of stories of him signing for them. We wouldn't post a singer if their last five albums weren't even mentioned, to use an analogy. The templates show he was chosen for the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations and that's not mentioned at all in the prose, and would be very easy to cite. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I fixed these issues, as well as a subjective statement about him being "crucial" or words to that effect in a lower-league reserve team. Page is going for ITN, not GA, so I believe it's sufficient now. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Rohini Godbole

Article: Rohini Godbole (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian physicist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support looks good to me. Aydoh8^[contribs] 13:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Article has info in lede not included elsewhere in the article. Book descriptions in the Books section appear to be copyright violations. "Research fields" section should be expanded with prose. Spencer^T•C 02:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Kim Soo-mi

Article: Kim Soo-mi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Korea JoongAng Daily
Credits:

• Nominated by Wizzito (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

South Korean actress wizzito | say hello! 02:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose No career section. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

October 24

Portal:Current events/2024 October 24

October 24, 2024 (2024-10-24) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Five Israeli soldiers are killed and seven others are injured in gun battles with Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon. (Reuters) Assassination of Hashem Safieddine Hezbollah confirms that Hossein Ali Hazimeh, head of its intelligence headquarters, was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Beirut, Lebanon, on October 3. (Webangah) (Mehr News Agency) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign The Armed Forces of Ukraine reports that Russian Armed Forces have made significant advances in the strategic city of Selydove, predicting that it could be captured in a few days. (Euronews) Israel–Hamas war At least 17 Palestinians, including children, are killed in an Israeli airstrike on a school in Nuseirat refugee camp. (Reuters) Israel says that it killed Muhammad Abu Attawi, a commander in Hamas' Nukhba forces who participated in the Nova music festival massacre, in an airstrike in Gaza yesterday. (Reuters) (The Times of Israel) Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir Islamist insurgents target an Indian Army vehicle with small arms fire near Gulmarg, Jammu and Kashmir, India, killing two soldiers and two civilian porters and injuring three other soldiers. (The Indian Express) Mexican drug war Two car bombs explode outside police stations in Acámbaro and Jerécuaro, Guanajuato, Mexico, injuring three police officers in Acámbaro. (AP) Business and economy Regulation of electronic cigarettes, Smoking bans in the United Kingdom The British government announces that single-use vapes will be banned in England and Wales beginning on 1 June 2025. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Tropical Storm Trami makes landfall in northeastern Luzon, Philippines, killing at least 26 people. (BBC News) (Reuters) Eight people are killed when a NNPC Limited Sikorsky S-76C+ helicopter crashes into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Bonny Island, Rivers State, Nigeria. (Daily Maverick) (BBC News Pidgin) Four people are killed and one other is seriously injured when a Tesla car crashes into a guardrail and struck a concrete pillar at high speed after losing control causing a fire in Toronto, Canada. (CTV News Toronto) International relations North Korea–South Korea relations Balloon propaganda campaigns in Korea North Korea sends a wave of trash balloons over South Korea, with one balloon falling on the presidential compound in central Seoul. The balloon reportedly contained leaflets criticizing South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol and his wife Kim Keon-hee. (ABC News) Law and crime Four people, including the perpetrator, are killed in a mass stabbing in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States. (WLWT-TV) Politics and elections 2024 Montserratian general election Residents of Montserrat vote to elect nine of the eleven members of the Legislative Assembly under plurality block voting. (Loop News) Former Premier of Montserrat Reuben Meade and his newly established party United Alliance wins five seats in the general election, establishing a majority and the ability to form a new government. The People's Democratic Movement party wins three seats and the Movement for Change and Prosperity party wins one seat. (St. Vincent Times) (Loop News) The European Parliament awards the Sakharov Prize to Venezuelan opposition leaders María Corina Machado and Edmundo González for their activism. (Reuters)

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RD: Jeri Taylor

Article: Jeri Taylor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Writer and producer for Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Voyager. 107.115.33.41 (talk) 06:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Amir Abdur-Rahim

Article: Amir Abdur-Rahim (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tampa Bay Times, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, USF
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American basketball coach. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article appears well sourced.Youraveragearmy (talk) 13:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Close; coaching stats section needs a reference. Spencer^T•C 01:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Julia Hawkins

Article: Julia Hawkins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American centenarian sprinter. ForsythiaJo (talk) 19:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 20:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

  A biography that jumps straight from 1949 to 2016 is "ready"? Um, okay. Just the normal sort of detachment from reality that occurs all the time on this page, I guess. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 05:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  @RadioKAOS: In the interests of WP:CIVIL, I encourage you to make your point without the sniping please, whatever the level of frustration, there's far too much of that on here. I would urge you to strike the last sentence out. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  It is possible that the biography jumps straight from 1949 to 2016 because there is not much to talk about. Is this woman really notable? This is not the time and the place to discuss this. So her claim to fame seems to be that she ran a 100 meter sprint at age 105 (it took her over a minute when real runners take about 10 seconds). Why are we making 105 year old people run a 100 meter "sprint"?! This seems like an extreme case of media bullshit and woke culture. Tradedia^talk 01:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

  Her notability derives almost entirely from things she did after turning 100 years old in 2016. It is not surprising that the pre-2016 biography is fairly thin. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 03:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks well referenced, notability supported through references.yorkshiresky (talk) 07:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

(Action needed) 2024 Mozambican general election

Article: 2024 Mozambican general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Daniel Chapo is announced as the winner of the 2024 Mozambican presidential election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Daniel Chapo is announced the President-elect of Mozambique following deadly protests against his party due to voter fraud during the 2024 Mozambican presidential election.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Created and nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

First time making a blurb nomination (actually, I think there was one other time previously). Hope I'm doing this right. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the nomination, but this has to wait the whole election is a bit of a mess with two people claiming to be winner. Once this is cleared up I'd support it's inclusion. Scuba 16:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I'm confused: is this a general or presidential election? Also surely ITN/R and if not why not? Abcmaxx (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  • There's a parliamentary election and a presidential election held concurrently (thus 'general election') – not sure if parliamentary results are to be included or just presidential? I added that its ITN/R. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

    Shouldn't these be two separate articles then or is it just one vote which decides both? Abcmaxx (talk) 18:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

    From what I have seen, the standard practice is that there always exists a "general election" page that consolidates the overview in cases where a nation has multiple elections at once. If there are enough active editors, those articles are then spun off into separate pages. It depends from place to place, typically with countries having higher user traffic getting those spun off articles more often. At the end of the day though, it is arbitrary. TLDR, no, the general election page is standard practice, and there is not a single vote that is cast which decides both. Ornithoptera (talk) 05:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

    The article is just very confusing in its current form though, it conflates both elections; yes they were held simultaneously but I would vote for a split. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality but support in principle as ITN-R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready. The article is in a poor shape. It shouldn't be split (as suggested above), but it should do a much better job of explaining that there were separate elections for the president and parliament held on the same day. The lead is woefully inadequate, and the results tables are empty. The 'aftermath' section is longer than the rest of the article, which is a problem for WP:PROPORTION. Needs work before it could be posted. Modest Genius ^talk 18:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  I was only suggesting a split due to the disconnect and conflation of the two in the article. However looking at the 2019 Mozambican general election this article should follow the same format. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  Most countries with presidential systems have synchronized elections, are all positions are voted upon on a single day. Some countries which have deeper coverages of individual elections do get separate election articles but for most it's just on one article such as this one. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Ready with Alt results are in, we might be making another post about Mozambique in the near future if the protests continue to be deadly and continue to escalate. Scuba 14:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gary Indiana

Article: Gary Indiana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Artnews
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American writer and art critic. Thriley (talk) 15:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article appears well sourced. TNM202 (talk) 06:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Article is in good shape. Sources are clear, and I would say that this article meets the minimum standards for a credible BLP that deserves to be posted as an RD. - Trauma Novitiate (talk) 11:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 07:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ron Ely

Ron Ely starred as Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze

Article: Ron Ely (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Fyunck(click) (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: He died in September but the death has only just been announced. He was a famous Tarzan on TV back in the day and was engaging as Doc Savage too. As a famous face, he's another good picture candidate. ITN has been showing Sinwar's picture for a week now and so a change is overdue. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

We could just picture Moldova. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC) Too late, we're now picturing a guy I'm betting nobody here saw before. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, just about nobody was reading about him. Even Grizzly 399 has a bigger readership. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

notability ≠ popularity _-_Alsor (talk) 14:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Gustavo has been found lacking in both and so has been pulled. We're back to Sinwar for a second week and this is not progress. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Update: We now feature six all-new, never-before-seen Turkish turnstiles, captured (alongside potentially discernible humanoid figures) in glorious 640x524! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC) Partly cloudy, 800x600. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb: Seems well written and well sourced (except a few in the career section). However theres nothing in the article that indicates he was transformative in his field, no major awards mentioned in it or evidence of worldwide impact as Dame Maggie Smith had. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose blurb good lord, one of these days we have to sort out some meaningful criteria for RDB. OLDMANDIES. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Reminder A Photo RD is not a blurb. It uses just three words (first name, last name, "pictured") in the usual place. Like a Usual RD, it cannot last very long. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  Reminder there is no consensus for photo RDs, get that first before you go on. Stephen 06:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  Well, Yeah, I'm talking "in theory" here. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose picture as he isn't important enough to warrant that, and there is no precedent for featuring the picture in this way. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• I count six "citation needed" tags and there's an orange tag, too. Before that's addressed, this is going nowhere. Schwede66 07:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• On significance, oppose blurb, which consensus holds is the only method by which someone's RD can be pictured on the Main Page. Attempts to have photo RDs in the past have unilaterally ended up being reverted. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

October 23

Portal:Current events/2024 October 23

October 23, 2024 (2024-10-23) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign The Russian Defense Ministry claims that Russian forces have captured the villages of Mykolaivka and Serebrianka in Donetsk Oblast, while Ukrainian military newspage DeepState reports heavy conflict surrounding Selydove. (Reuters) Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine The U.S. State Department reports that it has confirmed evidence that North Korean troops are now present in Russia and are preparing to travel to the battlefield in Ukraine. South Korea says that Pyongyang has promised to send up to 10,000 troops to support the war effort. (The Guardian) United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine The U.S. Defense Department finalizes a US$20 billion loan to Ukraine for military and economic support as part of a collective US$50 billion loan between G7 members. (Reuters) Kurdish–Turkish conflict 2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack Five people are killed and 22 more injured during a bombing–shooting attack at the Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters in Kahramankazan, Ankara Province, Turkey. The perpetrators are later killed during a shootout with security forces. The Turkish government suspects the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) to be behind the attack. (Al-Monitor) (Reuters) (DW) The Turkish Air Force launches airstrikes on PKK targets across northern Syria and Iraqi Kurdistan in response to the attack, with Turkish drone strikes in Kobani, Syria, injuring three Asayish officers. (Reuters) (ANHA) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Assassination of Hashem Safieddine Hezbollah confirms that Hashem Safieddine, head of their executive council, was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Beirut, Lebanon, on October 3. (BBC News) Israel–Hamas war Israeli airstrikes across the Gaza Strip reportedly kill at least 42 people. UNRWA says one of their staff members was killed after their vehicle was hit by Israeli forces in Deir al-Balah. (Reuters) Mexican drug war Nineteen suspected cartel members are killed and one local cartel leader is arrested in a shootout between gunmen and police officers in Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Two people are killed and 11 injured after an explosion at a Toyota Material Handling factory in Bologna, Italy. (Stato Quotidiano) Three people are found deceased and seven are hospitalized due to carbon monoxide poisoning at a care home in Swanage, Dorset, England. (Sky News) Health and environment Demographics of Germany, German economic crisis The Ifo Institute for Economic Research reports that Germany experienced a 13% birth rate decline nationally and up to a 17.5% birth rate decline in eastern Germany between 2021 and 2023, with the institute attributing the decline to several reasons including the COVID-19 pandemic, the Russo-Ukrainian war, and high inflation. (DW) International relations China–Holy See relations China and the Holy See agree to extend their 2018 provisional agreement on the appointment of Catholic bishops in China for a further four years. (Vatican News) China–India relations Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi holds a bilateral meeting with President of China Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the 16th BRICS summit in Kazan, Russia. This is the first bilateral meeting between India and China in five years and comes in the aftermath of the 2020 border skirmishes between Indian and Chinese troops. (India Today) Law and crime 2024 social unrest in Martinique Protesters with automatic weapons target police and firefighters in Martinique, where protests over the high cost of living have prompted France to deploy forces to the island. (AP) A court in Munich, Germany, charges a Russian man for stabbing two Ukrainian soldiers at a shopping center in Murnau am Staffelsee, Bavaria, Germany, in April. (DW) A man kills two of his relatives and wounds two more during a mass shooting at their home in Novo Hamburgo, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. A policeman and the perpetrator are killed during the ensuing shootout, while three more officers are wounded. (The Brazilian Report) Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre announces that his government will raise the minimum age limit to use social media from 13 to 15 in order to protect children from the "power of the algorithms". (The Guardian)

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RD: Leon Cooper

Article: Leon Cooper (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E011:5438:975C:9F4D (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Painting17 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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240F:7A:6253:1:E011:5438:975C:9F4D (talk) 03:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Needs more sources. Schwede66 07:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jack Jones

Article: Jack Jones (American singer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6], [7]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Deathisallaroundus (talk · give credit), Entertainment Buff (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 Happily888 (talk) 02:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality several CN tags are present. INeedSupport ^:3 03:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Grizzly 399

Article: Grizzly 399 (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American grizzly bear. Thriley (talk) 05:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support It's surprising that she didn't get a personal name but the number will make the article stand out at RD. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Article has tense problems (still mostly in present tense). --Masem (t) 12:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Tried to clean up much of these issues. Natg 19 (talk) 00:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support sure, I guess This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 04:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Geoff Capes

Article: Geoff Capes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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British shot putter Stephen 18:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now - too much unsupported info. - SchroCat (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Blurb/picture As World's Strongest Man more than once, he was top of his field and quite famous in his day. His face was quite familiar and we have a recognisable picture of it while the current top blurb about Moldova doesn't have a picture. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality, too much unsourced, Oppose blurb, simply being a household name is not sufficient weight, there should be clear indication of what impact or legacy he had on the future of the sport. Masem (t) 19:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb not a household name. Even if he was, not a serving head of state/gov. OLDMANDIES. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shamshad Abdullaev

Article: Shamshad Abdullaev (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Liberty
Credits:

• Nominated by Trepang2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A renowned Uzbek Russian-language poet, leader of the Fergana poetic school. The article looks OK. Trepang2 (talk) 17:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced paragraphs. Stephen 12:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack

Article: 2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following a terrorist attack by the Kurdistan Workers' Party that killed 7 people, Turkey conducts airstrikes in Syria and Iraq that kill at least 12 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A Kurdistan Workers' Party attack on the Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters in Ankara, Turkey, kills 7 people.
News source(s): CNN, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Bakhos2010 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

If the casualties from the terrorist attack was low for several days, it should be closed from this nomination. So, we'll wait for a while. Bakhos2010 (talk) 15:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Article seems to be a duplicate of 2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack RachelTensions (talk) 15:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Clearly only one is f these pages is needed, and the target article here can be updated. — Masem (t) 16:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support issues look to be resolved now, major incident with worldwide coverage. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support, with different blurb - Major attack with significant news coverage, but the blurb provided is both in the past tense and features no links. Maybe this would be better: A terrorist attack on the headquarters of Turkish Aerospace Industries leaves seven people dead and 22 injured. Poxy4 (talk) 12:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Changed the blurb Bakhos2010 (talk) 13:50, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 16:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• I've edited the blurb so that it complies with MOS:NUMNOTES (i.e. we don't mix numbers and numerals). Schwede66 04:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support PKK claims responsibility so there is no speculation there. Shadow4dark (talk) 10:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Turkey has killed at least 12 civilians in retaliatory airstrikes [8]. If this is posted, it should be with a blurb that mentions the deaths on both sides, not only those caused by the PKK. Altblurb added. Struck because it's now the main blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 11:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I think that blurb is better, so I've changed it and marked this nomination as ready. Poxy4 (talk) 13:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I've tweaked it again now the article says the PKK claimed responsibility, though I'm unsure about the reliability of the reference it cites. Modest Genius ^talk 18:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Proposed an altblurb now that the PKK has claimed responsibility. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 19:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Tropical Storm Trami

Article: Tropical Storm Trami (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tropical Storm Trami (pictured) kills at least 115 people in the Philippines. (Post)
News source(s): ABC
Credits:

• Nominated by HurricaneEdgar (talk · give credit)

HurricaneEdgar 09:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Wait unti it dissipates. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 10:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC) Support, quality of the article is good. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 07:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I think this is a Bad Plan. Stories like these have a tendency to evaporate from the news cycle very quickly, and if the quality update exists now, waiting until the storm ceases to exist would essentially lead to us posting a stale item. If the article is ready, we ought to post at the peak of an item's newsworthiness, not after the denouement. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Everything looks good here. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support quality is there, has made impact with landfall, there's no need to wait after that point. Masem (t) 14:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support Casualties are a little bit low, but nevertheless Trami was very impactful. Article looks good in my opinion. INeedSupport ^:3 14:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  Casualties are a little bit low
  there has got to be a better way to word this RachelTensions (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  Perhaps. I was trying to see that the amount of deaths and injuries are slightly lower than events that were posted in ITN before. Since then the amount of deaths is now quite significant. INeedSupport ^:3 03:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

  Changing to Strong Support for the high death toll. For a tropical storm, 80+ deaths is very significant. Article has high quality. INeedSupport ^:3 16:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Question the lead sentence suggests that this storm is known as "Severe Tropical Storm Kristine" in the Philippines. Should the blurb refer to it as "Kristine" here because we're specifically talking about its effects on the Philippines? What's the status quo here? RachelTensions (talk) 15:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  "Kristine" was the local name for the storm in the Philippines, but it was referred to internationally as "Trami," a name given by the JMA, which PAGASA also recognized. International media refer to the storm as Trami. HurricaneEdgar 15:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support per WaltCip and Masem Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Support: Quite a lot of casualties. Should post now. Elios Peredhel (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Support it's a storm that has already made landfall. It is notable enough for it to be posted. Rager7 (talk) 02:45, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose low casualties, low damage ($200K USD). Stephen 03:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - this isn't even at hurricane strength. The infrastructure in the Philippines is such that a storm that doesn't kill people in advanced nations will cause deaths there. We don't need to put every moderate storm with heavy rainfall in ITN. Nfitz (talk) 04:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support as this is already a significantly impactful storm in the Philippines, causing widespread and potentially damaging flooding and, unfortunately, many casualties. ArkHyena (it/its) 06:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per the cited Reuters report which states, "The Philippines typically records an average of 20 tropical storms annually, often resulting in heavy rains, strong winds, and deadly landslides." So, this is ordinary weather for this region and just a WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Nfitz et al, this simply isn't out of the ordinary in the area, and the death toll, whilst obviously tragic, is not exceptional. Black Kite (talk) 18:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, but leaning towards support. I think we should wait for further reports before this can be blurbed; but as the weather in the Philippines becomes clearer, the scale of Trami's destruction is beginning to be more extensively known. That said, if Nalgae in 2022 – a similar storm which also caused widespread flooding in the Philippines – was blurbed, then Trami in 2024 should be too (although Nalgae did eventually peak as a Category 1 on JTWC). Vida0007 (talk) 02:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Wait but support at a later date per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support 40 people dead by this and still not posted? Milton also did not leave this much people dead, but was posted. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 05:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support At least 46 deaths are enough deaths for a blurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Now up to 82 deaths and continuing to rise, which is a lot even for a typhoon - currently the second most deadly of 2024. The article is substantial and well-referenced. Modest Genius ^talk 11:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Support. Good amount of deaths, but unknown damage. Flooding pictures/footage coming out of the area looks bad. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 17:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

LARGE AMOUNT NOT GOOD AMOUNT I DONT MEAN IT LIKE THAT Wildfireupdateman (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Good job clarifying 😂 –DMartin 17:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• 'Posted. Spencer^T•C 15:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

October 22

Portal:Current events/2024 October 22

October 22, 2024 (2024-10-22) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2024 Iran–Israel conflict Israeli retaliation leak, Israel–United States relations The FBI announces an investigation into the leaking of classified U.S. intelligence documents regarding military plans for Israeli retaliation against Iran. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip An Israeli drone strike on Beit Lahia in the Gaza Strip, kills at least fifteen people, including several women and children. (Al Jazeera) Islamic State insurgency in Iraq Prime Minister of Iraq Mohammed Shia' Al Sudani announces the death of several Islamic State senior members, including the group's leader in Iraq, in a military operation in Saladin Governorate, Iraq. (The Washington Post) Disasters and accidents Eleven people are killed after a fuel truck explosion on a highway near Kampala, Uganda. (AP) Health and environment The U.S. Center for Disease Control announces that one person has died and at least 48 others have become ill in an E. coli outbreak linked to McDonald's Quarter Pounder beef sandwiches in ten western and midwest states with the first case confirmed on 27 September. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Foreign interference in the 2024 United States elections The presidential campaign of former U.S. President Donald Trump files a formal complaint to the Federal Election Commission against the United Kingdom's Labour Party, accusing the Labour Party of "blatant foreign interference" in the election to support the Kamala Harris presidential campaign. (BBC News)

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RD: Johnnie Turner

Article: Johnnie Turner (Kentucky politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Wizzito (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Kentucky state senator wizzito | say hello! 14:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Could use additional expansion and referencing. Spencer^T•C 15:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Elizabeth Francis

Article: Elizabeth Francis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D516:C7BA:2F6:16B5 (talk · give credit)
• Created by EytanMelech (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gianluigi02 (talk · give credit) and Sxg169 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Oldest living person in the United States. 240F:7A:6253:1:D516:C7BA:2F6:16B5 (talk) 08:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Support - Was covered in media & all over social media. Monumental death for gerontology. EytanMelech (talk) 19:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

EytanMelech, what you need to comment on for a recent death posting is whether the article is up to standard. It doesn't matter how many news media are reporting her death; all that matters is article quality. Schwede66 04:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support article looks to be well-referenced despite being short. Vida0007 (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD Relatively brief but meets minimum standards. Spencer^T•C 06:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 UQ impact

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Article: 2024 UQ (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Meteoroid 2024 UQ impacts Earth, becoming the tenth ever asteroid predicted to do so. (Post)
News source(s): EarthSky.org
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Elios Peredhel (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Tenth meteoroid predicted to impact Earth. DIdn't harm anyone, but should be noted. Third already this year. Article does need some work. Elios Peredhel (talk) 02:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose on notability and quality. On notability, this is, as you said, the third predicted meteor strike this year alone, and it didn't significantly affect life on the ground. On quality, the article has one paragraph and relies on that single EarthSky source. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, as it only hit earth's atmosphere, "burned up harmlessly on 22 October 2024 above the Pacific Ocean off the coasts of California". However I do think this is a candidate for DYK if it can be expanded given the newness of the article. --Masem (t) 02:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose Article is a stub. INeedSupport ^:3 04:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The meteoroid is not an asteroid, it did not impact the earth (it burned up in the atmosphere), and the article is a stub. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• What impact? HiLo48 (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Earth's atmosphere is a part of Earth Hence the apostrophe; an attack on one realm is an attack on the whole planet (an impact, anyway). That's not a Support !vote, by the way. Just a comment. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. The first time astronomers detected a meteoroid just before it impacted Earth (2008 TC3) it generated a bunch of interest and media coverage. But it's now something that happens at least once a year. There was already 2024 BX1 in January, fragments of which were recovered as meteorites. Being the tenth isn't very newsworthy and there's little scientific understanding gained here. The article is a stub and there's little media coverage. Modest Genius ^talk 12:34, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted as RD, attention needed on blurb) RD/Blurb: Gustavo Gutiérrez

Article: Gustavo Gutiérrez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Peruvian Catholic theologian Gustavo Gutiérrez, a founder of Latin American liberation theology, dies at the age of 96. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Peruvian Catholic liberation theologian Gustavo Gutiérrez dies at the age of 96.
News source(s): [9], AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Montechill (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Peruvian priest and author who was a founder of liberation theology~

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Montechill (talk • contribs) 06:12, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks well sourced. Spanish- and French-language sources for death, hoping to see an English-language one soon. – ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 07:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  Comment I added my support yesterday when only RD was proposed – undecided on blurb. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

  Support blurb, looking good. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 06:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb Founder of liberation theology. -TenorTwelve (talk) 08:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb OLDMANDIES. Not a serving head of state or government. Certainly not a household name. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 15:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  Please quit citing this rationale repeatedly orbitalbuzzsaw, those are not the criteria that we judge for a blurb, per WP:ITNRDBLURB. You have already been informed of this previously by another user. Ornithoptera (talk) 05:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  Everyone has their own reasons for opposing or supporting any blurb, distinct from any posting criteria. And as I've informed everyone repeatedly, "Old Man Dies", "OMD" or "OLDMANDIES" is basically a short of way of saying Criterion 1 is met. The RD section is usually used then. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  The issue was not "OLDMANDIES", I am already very familiar with that one. I meant the "Not a serving head of state or government" rationale, that is the concern I am addressing InedibleHulk. Ornithoptera (talk) 05:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  "Those" and "criteria" misled me. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Proposed blurb and added English source.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as necessary sources are missing for the criticism section, but would support as blurb as the legacy section properly gives sourced reasoning why he and his work was significant in theology studies. Masem (t) 17:34, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Masem: Fixed sourcing issues. Article looks good. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now. The criticism section has a "citation required" for a quote. I commented out a picture of Ratzinger as pope in a 1970s context, which came with a lengthy unreferenced and undated fact. If returned, that fact should come in chronological context and with a ref. If Ratzinger acted in the 1970s, then a pic at the time please, or no pic, - or it would be miposleading. Once quality is there, I'd support a blurb: influential worldwide, so more than some state politicians. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Gerda Arendt: Fixed article quality issues. Should be good now. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  Support now, and support blurb. Thank you for the changes (which meant reducing). I believe that a crop of the image of him in office would portrait him better as a lead image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality Article needs some ref work before this could get posted. Would support blurb given how he founded the liberation theology and his article does establish his impact/how influential he was. Article looks good now. Legacy section is pretty good too. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, blurbs should be reserved for deaths that could support an article on their own. Very recent example: Death of Liam Payne. Abductive (reasoning) 09:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support 56 sources so they seem blurb-worthy and their article is in good shape. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 11:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• This needs to be pulled. Counting sources? Abductive (reasoning) 09:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Just btw, that article is being merged into Liam Payne's page via a pretty consensus discussion, Nobreadsticks (talk) 23:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb per all above. Article looks good now. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Blurb posted – Schwede66 04:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• OMD Life was the story here and it still will be when we're looking at this overblown RD (possibly still pictured) next week. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. No idea why this was posted, the death isn't a story and his stature and prominence clearly don't rise to the usual bar for blurbing. Is it possible for us to have at least a modicum of consistency at ITN?!  — Amakuru (talk) 09:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  It's consistent in that a blurb that is non-US, not pop culture, and not in blaring headlines can get posted if they fly under radar with little opposition. There's no written rule on this, but I expect a larger quorum if I was to post a blurb. But good for those who decry systemic bias, I suppose. —Bagumba (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  I don't specifically oppose this blurb but looks pretty ridiculous when people refused to blurb Liam Payne which was the top story in many countries and was an unexpected death. AusLondonder (talk) 11:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb & pull. I cannot fathom why an obscure theologian has been given a blurb. Neither his article, nor those on liberation theology and Latin American liberation theology, demonstrates any major impact on the world, just some slight tweaks on how the Catholic Church regards and preaches to the poor. That's not the sort of transformative figure that we require for blurbs. His death and funeral are not unusual in their manner or scope. This is exactly the sort of person that RD was introduced for - notable but not blurb-worthy. Modest Genius ^talk 11:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

  Theologians, as academics, are already obscure in terms of how the world covers them. The article had a clear legacy section to explain his importance and demonstrates he was a major figure in theology, which we absolutely should recognize even if the person is relatively obscure to the rest of the world. We're not looking for being transformative at the world stage, but transformative in their field which appears to be demonstrated with the sourcing of the article. Masem (t) 19:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Pull blurb - seems an unlikely candidate given the usual criteria for a blurb - it's not even a featured or GA, and all the Wikiprojects only rank the article as "mid importance" even within their own fields. Bob talk 11:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Pull blurb - Counting sources is in no way a justification for blurbing ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Post-posting support If we're going off of ITN as transformative in their field then Gutierrez deserved a blurb more than Payne or James Earl Jones. As I see it, roughly half of ITN sees transformative in their field as the biggest determining factor for a blurb, which this one meets in my opinion, but the other half sees importance in the eyes of the world or death-as-a-story to be more important. From what I can tell there's no easily-found policy for this and it may just be easier to split off blurb deaths from ITN except in very rare cases (serving heads of states, deaths as a major story, etc.). As it stands, I think the blurb here is justified. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

He only appears to have been transformative if you make the field extremely narrow e.g. 'Catholic theology in Latin America'. If the field is more appropriately broad, like 'religion', I don't think he reaches that threshold. Modest Genius ^talk 13:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I should note there are over 400 million Catholics in Latin America, and Catholic Church in Latin America has a pretty big section towards the end on Liberation Theology. Liberation Theology also has a pretty large and well filled-in footnote topic template for navigation that I think indicates the significance to be blurbed when one of the main faces of it dies. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Pull blurb – Article, and those who have supported the blurb, have not demonstrated his legacy or impact. This RD should not have been blurbed with such little participation from editors. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Pull blurb – Oppose per Modest Genius's argument. Bizarre choice for a blurb. — Goszei (talk) 16:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Liberation theology is a big thing and he appears to have been transformative in that regard, being named as the "father" of that movement. Clear legacy and impact that justifies a blurb even if not widely known in richer nations. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 17:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Pulled. Consensus to post a blurb seemed to have been there but enough of you have since commented to show that’s not the case. I’ll post it as RD instead. Schwede66 17:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. This individual, and his work, is one of the most significant forces in Latin American religious and political life throughout the past half-century. His death is certainly more warranted to be blurbed than many of the anglophone actors whom we have previously featured. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 18:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. I was happy to finally see someone who's not a US/UK film star getting blurbed, but alas, ignorance looks likely to triumph again. As per Red-tailed hawk, liberation theology was one of most influential forces in 20th c Latin America. Gutierrez therefore certainly merits a blurb. Khuft (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. This should be pretty obvious to an encyclopedist.

• Le Monde 23 Oct mentions his legion d'honneur, Pope Francis' praise (and hence criticism of Jean Paul II for referring to liberation theology as a "deviation")
• La Croix International, 24 Oct "Liberation Christianity had a significant impact across Latin America."
• NYT, 23-24 Oct "The book inspired multitudes in Asia and Africa as well." mentions Oscar Romero as one of the co-founders. "he was recognized as one of most influential theologians of the 20th century"
• El Comercio mentioned on the cover of El Comercio (Peru) 24 October.

etc., etc. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 20:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Soft oppose I think this entire discussion exemplifies the inconsistency with RD Blurbs that we've been seeing over and over again at ITN. Yes, he is significant and he was an extremely important figure in theology. But is his death currently worldwide headline news? Not in my opinion... he is a 96 year old man who is not a household name. On the other hand, when less socially "impactful" figures who are household names die (like singers and actors), or when there are notable/unusual manners of death (ex: Liam Payne), folks come out of the wood works to argue that only those with higher social impact should get a blurb. The result is a confusing and inconsistent criss cross of the two methodologies for RD Blurbs. We need to agree on a clearer set of criteria and stick to it. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb per above. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Not a household name, and therefore does not warrant a blurb. TNM101 (chat) 14:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Fernando Valenzuela

Article: Fernando Valenzuela (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bagumba (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Legendary Dodgers pitcher, days before a Dodgers-Yankees World Series. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Sufficiently sourced now and citogenesis in obits cleaned out.—Bagumba (talk) 14:08, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• The article has only one citation needed tag, for an unsourced paragraph. Otherwise it looks decent and ready. Flibirigit (talk) 18:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. R.I.P., Fernando. --PFHLai (talk) 18:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

(Review/attention needed) Cuban protests, blackout, hurricane

Article: 2024 Cuba blackouts (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests occur across Cuba amid a nationwide electrical blackout and the landfall of Hurricane Oscar. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Protests break out in Cuba after a nationwide electrical blackout and the landfall of Hurricane Oscar.
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by GeorgeMemulous (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit), Vida0007 (talk · give credit), Scu ba (talk · give credit), Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Quxyz (talk · give credit)

Blackout article is a start class but Oscar is alright. Protests themselves aren't nationwide at the moment, but if they grow in scale then the blurb should be rewritten as such to include them. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Support concept, oppose quality article is mostly just bullet points, I'll try to cannibalize a background from the last protest article, but right now I wouldn't say it's good enough for ITN inclusion. Scuba 17:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Scu ba: Has the blackout article been expanded enough that you’d support a blurb? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Support on principle but the articles need some expansion first. Estreyeria (talk) 17:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Estreyeria: Has the blackout article been expanded enough that you’d support a blurb? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I think putting everything together kinda makes a bit of a mess of things from a blurb perspective. What seems most notable here is the blackout. It's not common that a complete blackout like this happens. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately for Cuba it is somewhat common, as I mentioned there where blackouts earlier in the year that also caused protests. Scuba 18:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

There are levels to this sort of thing though. The article itself states "The blackout is the most severe energy crisis that the country has experienced since the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991". Personally, I just don't much favor these "x then y" blurbs unless we believe both x and y are notable for ITN themselves. Conflating these three events is only valid for the former two, and I think having a distinct article for the protests themselves would help validate the inclusion of this piece of the blurb as well. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Wait until the main blackout article has been expanded. As of now, the said article has been improved but it is still a stub. Though just like the nominator, I have no problems with regards to Hurricane Oscar's article. Vida0007 (talk) 00:33, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

@Vida0007: Has the blackout article been expanded enough that you’d support a blurb? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Support It still looks a bit short, but it is no longer marked as a stub and has several references now. I think I could support it now. Vida0007 (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Update: I also added some more sentences and references to the Cuba blackouts article. Vida0007 (talk) 01:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Merging the blackout and hurricane into one blurb about protests might be a little messy... are they protesting over Hurricane Oscar? Did Hurricane Oscar cause the blackouts? Are the protests related to the blackout or the hurricane? RachelTensions (talk) 01:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hurricane Oscar made landfall while the nation was under blackout and much information about Oscar was inaccessible due to it. Protests are surrounding the Cuban government's response. We do have an article on Criticism of the government response to Hurricane Katrina and this is comparable to that in my opinion; I strongly suspect the current death toll of 6 from Oscar is going to sharply rise once the nation comes out of blackout. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability once the article is updated. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

@Flipandflopped: Has the blackout article been expanded enough that you’d support a blurb? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

*Support@Blaylockjam10: article is good enough for ITN now. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Support: Becoming a big news. SHould post. Elios Peredhel (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
• This needs more votes. Editors say that the article is a stub (it isn't) and that it can be posted once it's been expanded. It looks ok to me, but the support is too thin to do so. Schwede66 04:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support but an event infobox would be nice. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support This is notable enough for a blurb & both bolded articles are good enough to post now. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Altblurb proposed now that the blackout's over but still might get blurbed. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:21, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support This is important enough for ITN and the quality is good enough. Tradedia^talk 07:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality The article is still lacking on the actual reasons for the blackout. They are briefly mentioned in the lede but do not propagate and expand in the body. --Masem (t) 13:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

• Concur with Masem; article could use additional detail in the background section for completion. Spencer^T•C 15:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I should note that the blackout has now been resolved for several days now, and the blurb hasn't been posted despite apparently being up to quality standards for a few days. It's also now older than the oldest item on the current ITN template. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 12:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality but Support on Notability Article does not clearly explain the reason for the blackout but supporting if fixed. TNM101 (chat) 13:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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