Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates
Removing featured lists in Wikipedia This page is for the review and improvement of featured lists that may no longer meet the featured list criteria. FLs should be kept at current standards, regardless of when they were promoted. Any objections raised in the review must be actionable. The FLC director, Giants2008, or his delegates, PresN and Hey man im josh, determine the exact timing of the process for each nomination. Nominations will last at least 14 days, and longer where changes are ongoing and it seems useful to continue the process. For a nomination to be kept, consensus must be reached that it still meets the criteria. Consensus is built among reviewers and nominators; the delegates determine whether there is consensus. A nomination will be removed from the list, archived and added to Former featured lists if, in the judgment of the director who considers a nomination and its reviews:
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[edit]The template saying "factual accuracy may be compromised due to out-of-date information" has been there for over 2 years. Yilku1 (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delist An orange tag in place for that long has no place on a featured list. Departure– (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Notified: The Rambling Man, Video games, Awards, Apps, Lists
Looking at when the was nominated, which was three days after the awards were presented, it definitely seemed like a second year of these were expected but that never happened. And looking at the sources used, most of them come from the Appy Awards website itself. Also don't believe that What Mobile is a reliable source. It just looks too barebones to really be called a Featured List with it just being two paragraphs and a table. GamerPro64 02:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove. I think it's possible that this is the best the article can ever be, which is commendable, but I also don't think every topic can qualify for featured status. I don't think this article qualifies for AFD, but the three secondary sources in Daily Telegraph, BBC, and What Mobile are all rather short and not particularly in-depth stories. A Google for "Appy Awards -wikipedia" does not turn up a lot of stuff that could be added, either. I don't think the secondary sourcing is strong enough here. SnowFire (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove Frankly, I'm not even sure this passes WP:SUSTAINED or WP:GNG in general. That it should not be featured is a foregone conclusion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove I don't think this award passes WP:GNG, since beyond the inaugural event which was itself barely covered by reliable sources, there has been no further significant coverage that indicates notability here (WP:SUSTAINED). I would probably nominate this article for AfD or for a merger to Carphone Warehouse after this FLRC closes. Either way I don't think there's enough material here to make a FL sadly. Fathoms Below (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
This list is missing key sections (namely production and reception), has poor sourcing (too many primary sources or lower-quality sources), and overall fails to meet present-day expectations for season articles. See the related FLRCs for season 1 and season 2 – several editors in the latter discussion expressed support for delisting additional seasons. (FLC directors: I am unsure what the limit is for FLRCs, but for now, I will assume it is two nominations once one has started developing a consensus, like FLC.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove. Similar to season 2, season articles aren't lists so this can't be a FL, and as an article this isn't even close to a GA level. Gonnym (talk) 11:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove for the same reasoning as seasons 1 and 2. Sgubaldo (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Notified: WikiProject Pennsylvania
I am nominating this as the data is 25 (!!!) years out of date, missing both the 2010 and 2020 census updates. It was one of the earlier featured lists but hasn't been taken care of for well over a decade. Mattximus (talk) 17:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- In addition to 25 year old data, there is also lots of unsourced sections, no alt text for images, a census designated place is added for some reason (unsourced), outdated wording ("The map shown below is clickable"), broken format in notes, just very far from featured standards. Mattximus (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have notified the original FLC nominator, Ruhrfisch (diff). RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification. Is there a model FL that we could look at for updates? Would updating to 2020 Census data be sufficient (or should the list have 2000, 2010, and 2020 data, and if so why not go back further in time)? Also, if we are making improvements, what time frame is there? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just 2020 should be sufficient for this list. Any more and the table would be too wide. There is quite a bit more that just the new census data needed to get it up to standard, but I'm sure there should be sufficient time if someone is working on it. Mattximus (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have a link which I think should work as one reference for the 2020 US Census populations of all 52 incorporated divisions, as well as all 52 of their areas - see https://data.census.gov/profile?g=060XX00US4208102656. Or would you prefer links to each of the 52 individual 2020 US Census pages for each township, borough, and city for the population and 52 more individual links for each of the 52 areas (so 1 link or 104 links for references)? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- One link in header would be ideal. Usually the US Census includes a single document with all the counties on one page, but honestly that is minor and can be done later. I'm happy with the link you provided in the header. No need for 104 links. Mattximus (talk) 21:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could someone look at my alt texts added so far and make sure that they are OK? I am also not sure what to use for alt text for the small locator maps for each municipality. I thought of just using "locator map" as the alt text - would that be OK? I have looked for a single document for the 2020 Census for Lycoming County, but have not been able to find it so far. I am compiling the populations and areas for all 52 of the municipalities, and will then edit them all in at once. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd probably say something to the effect of "<blank township> highlighted in red on a map of Lycoming County." Locator map is possibly fine as well, but I don't think it's particularly helpful if we had all of the images with the exact same alt text. Appreciate your effort and work on this @Ruhrfisch! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did not add alt text to the 52 Lycoming County locator maps yet. I could also do something like "Blank Township highlighted in red in northwest corner of Lycoming County map", to give a sense of where the twp is. Although there are a lot of small munis in the center of the county, which would be harder to describe. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 06:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have added alt text to all 52 locator maps in the first table per Hey man im josh's suggestion above "NAME highlighted in red on a map of Lycoming County". I think this addresses all of the major problems identified in the lede and Municipalities section. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did not add alt text to the 52 Lycoming County locator maps yet. I could also do something like "Blank Township highlighted in red in northwest corner of Lycoming County map", to give a sense of where the twp is. Although there are a lot of small munis in the center of the county, which would be harder to describe. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 06:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd probably say something to the effect of "<blank township> highlighted in red on a map of Lycoming County." Locator map is possibly fine as well, but I don't think it's particularly helpful if we had all of the images with the exact same alt text. Appreciate your effort and work on this @Ruhrfisch! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could someone look at my alt texts added so far and make sure that they are OK? I am also not sure what to use for alt text for the small locator maps for each municipality. I thought of just using "locator map" as the alt text - would that be OK? I have looked for a single document for the 2020 Census for Lycoming County, but have not been able to find it so far. I am compiling the populations and areas for all 52 of the municipalities, and will then edit them all in at once. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- One link in header would be ideal. Usually the US Census includes a single document with all the counties on one page, but honestly that is minor and can be done later. I'm happy with the link you provided in the header. No need for 104 links. Mattximus (talk) 21:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have a link which I think should work as one reference for the 2020 US Census populations of all 52 incorporated divisions, as well as all 52 of their areas - see https://data.census.gov/profile?g=060XX00US4208102656. Or would you prefer links to each of the 52 individual 2020 US Census pages for each township, borough, and city for the population and 52 more individual links for each of the 52 areas (so 1 link or 104 links for references)? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just 2020 should be sufficient for this list. Any more and the table would be too wide. There is quite a bit more that just the new census data needed to get it up to standard, but I'm sure there should be sufficient time if someone is working on it. Mattximus (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification. Is there a model FL that we could look at for updates? Would updating to 2020 Census data be sufficient (or should the list have 2000, 2010, and 2020 data, and if so why not go back further in time)? Also, if we are making improvements, what time frame is there? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Updates and Improvements
[edit]I am starting a new section to keep track of edits made to update and improve the list.
- Edited the lead map to remove the Census-Designate Place (CDP), and its labels, and moved the Old Lycoming Township label inside the township - see File:Map of Lycoming County Pennsylvania With Municipal and Township Labels.png, it may take a while to update how it displays here.
- Removed the row on the Garden View CDP from the table. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added alt text to all photos and maps with captions (not sure what to do with other maps).
- Edited the image map template to remove the CDP and removed "Clickable map" test here
- Switched all "Image:" names to "File:" - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Copy edited introductory paragraphs, updated some refs, and all populations to 2020 Census in first table. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 05:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The first table (Lycoming County's 52 municipalities) should be updated with 2020 census population AND 2023 areas (switched all to convert template, now area given in square miles to 3 decimal places, as per the US Census webpage). Added a ref for areas.
- Tweaked two paragraphs in municipalities section, - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 06:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added alt text per suggestion above to all locator maps in Table 1. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Notified: WikiProject Maryland, WikiProject U.S. counties, nominator is long-inactive
2007 promotion, fails FLCR 3b with several citation needed tags and an unsourced section. Also fails 5c; flag and seal should not be sortable and the former counties table does not have column and row headers. Talk page concerns went unanswered. charlotte 👸♥ 03:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've fixed the table accessibility issues that you've pointed out.
- Remaining problems:
- Sourcing issues.
- The lead map, and the flags and seal images in the table require alt text. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would recommend in general removing the FIPS code column, which is meaningless to almost everyone and makes the table too wide for most screens. Mattximus (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also there is no date for both the population and area in the heading row. Mattximus (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've added a few sources – couldn't address all of the "citation needed" tags, but it's a start. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've added one more source but found nothing in reliable sources regarding the defunct counties. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I believe this is close to being resolved, which is the reason I haven't delisted it yet. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't want to let this unnecessarily linger. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)