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	Flag of Lehigh County, Pennsylvania is a very good page. Well done! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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O'Donnell and Naccarato moved to draftspace

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Your submission at Articles for creation: O'Donnell and Naccarato (April 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Clearfrienda was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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This page was moved from main to draft because it wasn't ready, but was resubmitted without any changes. It's pretty close, but it doesn't meet WP:NCORP yet. Large portions of this aren't sourced properly (inline citations don't match). Please improve the article before resubmitting or it will get declined again.

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ITN recognition for 2024 Syrian parliamentary election

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Hohokus Township

Hey there, regarding this edit, how come you reverted to restore the article, when the township clearly became Mahwah, New Jersey? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 06:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical municipalities that got abolished should be kept on separate pages Scu ba (talk) 01:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason you feel that way? If historical municipalities became a current one, then that would just fall under the "history" section, as there isn't much to add if it no longer exists. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is precedent with having an abolished township having it's own page. In this instance although they shared borders there is no continuity between the municipal governments, and the former township was abolished instead of reincorporated as is usually the case in a township becoming a borough.

Additionally, only a portion of the township became Mahwah, there where also portions that became Allendale and Upper Saddle River. All three boroughs can trace themselves back to Hohokus Township, as such it would be unfair to the other two to have Mahwah monopolize the history of the township. Scu ba (talk) 16:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to mention Ramsey too was also spun out of Hohokus township Scu ba (talk) 16:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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County flags in articles for municipalities

Pwr MOS:INFOBOXFLAG, "Human geographic articles – for example, settlements and administrative subdivisions – may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes." So U.S. and state flags ae OK; County flags are not. As in this edit to the article for Paterson, New Jersey, and for other places in Passaic County, uses of the county flag should be removed. Alansohn (talk) 00:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems nonsensical. Why have flags for 2/3 subdivisions, instead of 3/3? Scuba 01:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This policy was based on consensus and added to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons in this edit in March 2012, more than a dozen years ago. There are municipalities with four levels of government, such as Lynbrook, New York, which is a village in a town, in a county, in a state in a country. Some people had wanted no flags in the infobox for any article for a place; consensus was to keep flags for country and first-level administrative subdivision (which would be a state within the United States here). I'm usually fighting to restore flags that have been removed from municipality articles without justification, but it goes both ways, as in Passaic County. Alansohn (talk) 03:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Im not sure if you read the edit you sent. Human geographic articles - for example settlements and administrative subdivisions - may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes; however, physical geographic articles - for example, mountains, valleys, rivers, lakes, and swamps - should not. Where a single article covers both human and physical geographic subjects (e.g. Manhattan), the consensus of editors at that article will determine whether flag use in the infobox is preferred or not. I am not talking about a mountains, valleys, rivers, lakes, and swamps im talking about a settlement. Scuba 03:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is an article about a settlement. As you cited, Human geographic articles - for example settlements and administrative subdivisions - may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes. Which means that flags for the United States (the country cited in the MOS) and New Jersey (the first-level administrative subdivision in this case) may be included; Passaic County would be a second-level administrative subdivision, for which a flag is excluded. Alansohn (talk) 14:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The text you cited does not explicitly say second-level administrative subdivision flags should be excluded. Scuba 14:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the Manual of Style allowed flags for populated places at all levels, it could have said all levels; listing only "country and first-level administrative subdivision", when what was intended was all levels, seems to be a tortured reading, at best. If MOS:INFOBOXFLAG meant to include the second-level administrative units (i.e. counties, in our case), it could have said that explicitly and its absence seems pretty definitive that it's not included. Alansohn (talk) 21:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the county flags because the manual of style doesn't even mention county flags is not only a waste of people's time, but also a rather weasely way to enforce the manual of style. Why do you care so much? Scuba 21:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding these county flags is a weasly way to violate the Manual of Style, which specifically advises against uses of flags for decorative purposes, Why do you care so much to waste your time adding them? Alansohn (talk) 23:17, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because I fundamentally disagree with the concept that including all three flags in an infobox is better than just including 2 of the 3 flags. Scuba 03:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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image for Chabad sidebar template

After looking into it, there is no official logo for the Chabad Movement, as it is made up of many smaller affiliated organizations (see Chabad-affiliated organizations). 770 Eastern Parkway is the best image to represent the movement because it is the official headquarters.

The icon I uploaded (here) is just the logo for Chabad Houses (centers for non-Orthodox people to pray or learn about Judaism) and does not represent the entire movement as 770 does.

So, for now, the image for the Chabad sidebar template should remain 770 Eastern Parkway because it is the best image to represent the movement. Thank you for your contruibutions and your work tho.

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@YisroelB501 My question then is why is that the logo on the Chabad website? Scuba 18:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please take a look at that. Listing every reaction with flags just invites it to become a useless list of very similar statements multiplied by every country that reacted... Plus regular text is usually more informative anyways 2607:FA49:5543:A300:0:0:0:2D3A (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Including the flags is far more informative. Flagcruft is limited to just infoboxes, you can't argue that here. Scuba 18:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what it says. I might have linked the wrong section (not been here very recently) but "Do not use icons in general article prose" and "Do not use too many icons". Simply listing countries by name (and grouping similar reactions, to avoid repetition) is far better. 2607:FA49:5543:A300:0:0:0:2D3A (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flagcruft is designed to prevent "nationalistic pride" that's literally the first sentence. You can use flags otherwise. Scuba 18:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's not clear about "Do not use icons in general article prose"? The section can be expressed far more clearly (and shortly) as general prose than as a country-by-country lists. Flags are just decorative in that context. 2607:FA49:5543:A300:0:0:0:2D3A (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, read the article. The example given is having an article about the Beetles and going "Beetles member Paul McCartney

was also a member of the wings " what you keep reverting has nothing to do with FLAGCRUFT. you are persistently abusing a rule you clearly don't understand. Scuba 18:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are missing the forest for the trees. The literal example might be a Beatles article, but a list of by-country reaction is also just prose, and there's no reason to add flags to it. 2607:FA49:5543:A300:0:0:0:2D3A (talk) 18:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, The list of countries does not count as flugcruft. separating out the reactions by each country is infinitely better than a word-vomit paragraph combining them all. Why am I even arguing with you? you're an IP editor. Scuba 18:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why am I arguing with you? You're hiding behind an alias, who's to say you're even a human being? More seriously, there's a good reason to avoid separating the reactions by country - it promotes it becoming just a useless list of routine reactions (ex. "Country X stated it was "closely monitoring" the situation") and allows for the more important reactions to be properly written about. Imagine if the equivalent section at Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#International_reactions was a flagcruft-list, would be entirely useless... 2607:FA49:5543:A300:0:0:0:2D3A (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello!
A bit of a random question, I've noticed you tend to vote "oppose" for ITN nominations where the article quality isn't sufficiently high quality.
I was wondering if there is a particular reason for this preference over "not ready" which I've noticed is a far more common vote regarding article issues? "Oppose" (imo) reads more like an issue regarding the subject rather than article quality issue.
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Votes should be binary support or oppose. If the article is updated to become high quality I'd change my vote to support. Scuba 03:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem on Utah Independent American Party

Hello Scu Ba. I have removed the 15 principles from the article, as it's copyright content; the page is marked as "Copyright © 2024 IAP Utah - All Rights Reserved." Also, I am pretty sure we don't normally include complete quotations of platforms/principles of political parties. --Diannaa (talk) 17:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah okay, I'm fine with that, didn't really know how to summarize the 15 points coherently so I just put them in in full. Scuba 17:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could offer an external link maybe. Diannaa (talk) 20:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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