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Enlightenment (spiritual)

This should not be redirected to moksha, which is Liberation. That's different than Enlightenment. See the deletion discussion, which determined that the word "enlightenment" in academic sources can only refer to Enlightenment in Buddhism or Kevala Jnana in Jainism. Buddhists clearly distinguish bodhi from moksha, and refer to the latter as "personal liberation", a state short of Englightenment. Skyerise (talk) 22:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

With respect, your statements here are way too technical in this situation The simple meaning is plainly what was intended in the quoted statement. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rice

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Your GA nomination of Húrin

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Your GA nomination of Ant mimicry

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Many congratulations on your 3 GAs in one day!  Frzzl  talk; contribs  20:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, one waits for months and then 3 come along at once, like London Buses all in a row! Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Languages constructed by J. R. R. Tolkien

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Megaherbivore

Since these animals lack a common ancestor and are polyphyletic, I suppose you can combine the cladograms of the four extant families. Considering that this group came together due to a shared ecological niche, their evolutionary histories are not necessarily the same. 20 upper (talk) 12:14, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

20 upper: I'll draw a tree. Obviously there are different clades of MHs within it. But this only covers the extant 1/4 of the story. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Placentalia	Afrotheria Proboscidea Elephants (3 spp) Boreoeutheria Perissodactyla Rhinoceroses (5 spp) Artiodactyla Giraffes (4 spp) Hippopotamuses (2 spp)

Not sure how you get to "nine extant species", there seem to be 14 here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:01, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't come up with it; Owen-Smith did. The key definition is animals that exceed 1 metric ton in body mass, and apparently only 9 terrestrial herbivores meet this criterion. 20 upper (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

20 upper: Your Pleistocene tree is something like this, but I'd need more detail of the species (e.g. what Cingulata? what Pilosa? what Perissodactyls? what Artiodactyls?) to fill it out a bit better:

Mammalia	Marsupialia Diprotodontidae (1 sp) Placentalia Afrotheria Proboscidea Elephants, Mammoths (16 spp) Boreoeutheria Xenarthra Cingulata Giant glyptodonts (5 spp) Pilosa Giant sloths (8 spp) Laurasiatheria Panperissodactyla Litopterna (1 sp) Notoungulata toxodonts (1 sp) Perissodactyla Rhinocerotoids (9 spp) Artiodactyla Hippopotamuses (?? spp) Giant camels (?? spp) Giant bovids (?? spp)

Thanks for the help. For Cetartiodactyla: camels, bovids, and, of course, hippos. Cingula; glyptodonts. Pilosa, giant sloths. Perissodactyla; rhinos. Proboscidea, elephants & similar species, and Notoungulata, toxodonts. 20 upper (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

20 upper: OK, tweaked. You can fill in the nos. of spp in each case as the "7 spp" for Artiodactyls don't show what goes where.

Dinosauria	Saurischia (carnivorous dinosaurs) Ornithischia Thyreophora Ankylosauria Nodosauridae Ankylosauridae Neornithischia Ceratopsidae Centrosaurinae Chasmosaurinae Hadrosauridae Lambeosaurinae

20 upper: Here's the tree for the Campanian (late Cretaceous). There are plenty of images available. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:15, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

A Permian MH among the Pareiasaurs:

Your GA nomination of Tove Jansson

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Your GA nomination of Translation of The Lord of the Rings into Swedish

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Category:Purported ancient yoga texts has been nominated for merging

Category:Purported ancient yoga texts has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Smasongarrison: thanks for letting me know. You should however have checked the article to see that the category is definitely not "subjective", indeed impeccably cited, before firing the blunderbuss. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Anopheles

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Mental illness in Middle-earth GA-article review preview

Hello, I was about to sign up to review the article you nominated, Mental illness in Middle-earth, but from just a cursory view, I see there are some big gaps that I feel would best be fixed so that it does not get a quick fail.

• Include whatever intentionality Tolkien may have had to infuse his books with depictions of mental illness
  • Include Tolkien's knowledge of psychology; for example, other articles on wikipedia discuss his interest in Jungian psychology
    • Done.
  • Include personal experiences (if applicable, I admit I am no expert on Tolkien) that Tolkien may have had with mental illness (his own experience of PTSD?)
    • Done.

• Epilepsy is considered a neurological disorder, not a mental-illness. That said, might be worth a mention of other specific medical conditions that are portrayed accurately in his books
  • Removed epilepsy, not discussed in text. Not sure there are other conditions to mention.

• Consider broadening the article to "mental-illnesses depicted in the works of Tolkien", or something along those lines. I'm going to take a guess (especially considering the titles of some of the references) that there are works by Tolkien that depict mental illness.
  • Not really, no. He certainly didn't explicitly write on that topic, but as the article says, people have read it into The Lord of the Rings in particular.

• Perhaps include the significance of this topic, such as cultural impact of potentially reducing (or reinforcing) stigma against mental illness, or examples of people with mental illness who said that they could relate to the characters.
  • Not sure about that.

Apologies that I did not read this article in depth, so perhaps some of these things are already there that I overlooked. And some of these items are more wish-listy, and may not constitute a fail if not present. I look forward to reading more into this in the future! Thanks for your work. Tea with toast (話) 05:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Tea with toast -- well, I've done most of what you suggest. Let me know if you think this is now ready for GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Winchester College football

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Your thank me on my Anopheles edit

You thanked me on my Anopheles edit at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anopheles&diff=1198618074&oldid=1198240238 - however, such small edits are considered cosmetic edits and are not encouraged if they are done en masse, see the discussion at User_talk:Maxim_Masiutin#CiteByBot on my Talk page - you can commend there if you wish, for example, if you have on opinion on whether all "cite" templates should be lowercase or, vice versa, they should start with an uppercase letter {{Cite.... Anyway, thank you for your appreciation, this is very important for me, and it is a big pleasure for me when people thank me for my edits. By the way, I nominated a few articles on GA, and they stay for months, there are no reviewers for them :-(((

Can you please help me when you have time and select one article you like most and that you think is most suitable for GA and review?

Thank you again! Maxim Masiutin (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI

I don't quite know why the Tove Jansson nomination attracted so much heat, but it is true that the people involved in DYK have grown a little tired of being constantly shouted at because of witty and ambiguous hooks that other people consider un-encyclopedic: see this one for one I promoted that was really set upon at WP:ERRORS recently. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

How interesting. It is clearly a cultural change, either generational or perhaps a widening from native speaker to multinational. I don't think it'll prove to be reversible. Philosophically, Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Minas Tirith

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Your GA nomination of Barley

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Wondering if you would like to create a DYK for this article? If you do I have a quid pro quo to donate. I can do the nomination myself if you like. I am familiar with all of the procedures there. Also I am watching a Crusader show and The Barley Barn was discussed which made me think of this article. Bruxton (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Bruxton: That would be really nice, thank you! Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

The Barley as money is intriguing - Mesopotamia's first currency. Bruxton (talk) 03:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, maybe we should mention it alongside the neasurement usage. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Added. And the Barley Barn into the, er, Bargain. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the review on that holdout business. I nominated the article and you can participate there or propose hooks. Template:Did you know nominations/Barley. In writing hooks I see that one citation may need to be adjusted. #72 in the Beer, whisky, and soft drinks section. I could not find whiskey in the source. In a search, I did find this passing mention of Japanese whiskey in Magazine. Well I am on to the next one. Have a great weekend. Bruxton (talk) 16:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. The whisky text had just got separated from its source; I've repeated the McGee ref. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tolkien's impact on fantasy

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Your GA nomination of Forests in Middle-earth

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Your GA nomination of Chicken

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Your GA nomination of Valinor

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Your GA nomination of Ian Holm

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DYK for Tove Jansson

On 8 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tove Jansson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that artist Tove Jansson (pictured) based the children's book character Snufkin on a political philosopher whom she had dated? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tove Jansson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tove Jansson), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Issue with DYK for barley

Hello! I've temporarily removed the DYK hook for barley because of a source issue. I'm not convinced that the source given in the article, Timothy F. Peterson's Debauchery of Currency, is a reliable source. Peterson does not appear to be an academic - he's a crypto promoter. I don't doubt that the information is accurate, but a more reliable academic source should be swapped into the article for the sentence that supports the hook ("In ancient Mesopotamia...shekel"). @LlywelynII, tagging you as reviewer as well. Thanks! —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Barley < Link to the DYKN. — LlywelynII 19:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Upon cursory googling, there's this rather thorough treatment:

* {{citation |last=Powell |first=Marvin A. |jstor=3632646 |contribution=Money in the Orient: Money in Mesopotamia |title=Journal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient |date=1996 |volume=39 |issue=3 |pp=224-242 |publisher=Brill |location=Leiden }}.

@Ganesha811: Any issues with that one? ChisCha: Assuming there aren't, just add that into the #Sources section and {{sfnp|Powell|1996}} in place of the cryptobro. Remove the "shekel" part since it's the wrong language in the wrong place at the wrong time. — LlywelynII 19:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ganesha811: I've replaced the citation per this discussion. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to you both - I've restored the hook and it should be on the front page in the next couple days! —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Teachers

Hi Chap, Some headmasters taught as teachers before they became headmasters. Sabben-Clare was a teacher at Winchester, then became a headmaster, so shouldn't he feature in both categories, unlike those headmasters who were appointed from elsewhere straight into the top job? Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 14:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing. No, every headmaster is part of the teaching profession, and most actually teach while being head, too. Being a senior teacher and a junior teacher at different times still makes you a teacher. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

OK, I've undone the other three I put into that cat so it's consistent. Ericoides (talk) 15:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mosquito

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DYK for Barley

On 13 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Barley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that barley was once used as a form of money? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barley. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Barley), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for getting so many basic articles up to GA status. I'm glad someone nominated this one for a DYK and I hope you'll do more of these to bring all of your great work to the masses. —  AjaxSmack  23:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for the kind words. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Winchester College football

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—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cereal

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GA review

Thanks for the GA review. It was my first GA. I will be able to do more GA reviews during the backlog drive and I want to review one of your nominations. Have a great week. Lightburst (talk) 17:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Lightburst: My pleasure! Well done, and looking forward to whatever you do. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
		This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Invasive species retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very kind of you! Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Eusociality

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Your GA nomination of Barnacle

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Comment post GA review. I listed this under GA invertebrates. I notice that the article does not seem to mention that they are invertebrates. Maybe you should think about adding it. Thanks for allowing me to review the article, it was a pleasure. Lightburst (talk) 00:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Great work!

Only one more comment about the image, and I think Corey Olsen is a pass! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 12:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Corey Olsen

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Important articles improvement

I saw your userpage and holy moly; I'm very impressed. You've actually turn most of the important articles in a decent shape/GA. You and Little Jerry. I was wondering if you're gonna work Honey badger or Komodo dragon soon, but anyway take care of yourself/your health. 2001:4455:3AA:B000:1023:CFC1:1024:132A (talk) 12:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

That's very kind of you. I very rarely work on individual species articles - there are perhaps a million of them: and I prefer to try to cover major groups so that we have a sensible starting-point for looking at the tree of life. But who knows, I might give it a go sometime. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I mean there are millions of individual species, but there are quite few popular articles (like I mentioned above) that have high page views. But, yeah. I'm just amazed at your work and thanks for making those articles look good. 2001:4455:3AA:B000:1023:CFC1:1024:132A (talk) 12:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, importance can be measured by views, or in other ways. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pig

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Your GA nomination of Elijah Wood

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Elijah Wood

Hello, thank you for fixing the second paragraph in the lead, I had struggled with how to rewrite it because Wood's post-LotR career has been so varied. I hope you didn't mind that I made a minor change to the summary of the child acting phase of his career. The previous GAN also asked for the Lord of the Rings section to be expanded. More information has been added since, but I wanted to ask if you were aware of any other details that could be added? Best, Lord Theoden (talk) 04:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. I think we've got it about right, but I'm aware that actor's careers need constant updating! Happy editing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Marguerite Agniel

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Your GA nomination of Economy of Middle-earth

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Mr. Elijah DYK

Hello again, are you interested in nominating this article for Did You Know as well? I was thinking Wood's Frodo audition tape and other career as a disc jockey would both make good hooks. Were there any others you had in mind? Lord Theoden (talk) 05:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Go for it! Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Narwhal#European

Can you help me with this section? Writing about an animal's significance in human culture is my weakest point. Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 03:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Wolverine XI - it doesn't seem too bad, barring a quote that needs a ref beside it. It seems a reasonable length, too. I've copy-edited very slightly. What is your concern about the section? Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:11, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Per this peer review. I'm trying to make this section FA quality, and I'm struggling to do so. You've written FAs before, so I was hoping you'd help. Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 04:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Wolverine XI: Aha. My feelings on FAC are ... mixed. The GA principle is to cover "the main points" so as to create a decent article, reliably cited. Its goal, my goal, is to achieve decent coverage across the encyclopedia (only 6 million articles to go, then...). GAN used not to care very much about itsy-bitsy details like formatting, ref style, parameters and all such apparatus: it's steadily getting more FAC-like, which is a shame. FAC has the theory that perfection is possible within the confines of a small space, and that in that little arena the article should be "comprehensive", covering all the facts there completely and with perfect, symmetric, regular beauty like a polished crystal. No topic of any substantial size is like that; no article that has been edited by many hands over many years is remotely like that; and the amount of work needed to get an article like that is forbiddingly large, rising steeply with the complexity of the topic. Needless to say, there is no hope whatsoever of getting millions of articles that have been messed about with by the great unwashed into this pristine state within finite human lifetimes.

The easiest way — perhaps the only sane way — to get an article through this particular needle's eye is to start by creating an article on a small but curious topic, using a strictly enforced format for everything per the MOS and one's personal taste, and to write the whole thing as a single coherent draft. Then one goes away and thinks about it for a while, and illustrates it as crisply as possible from Commons or by taking photos, drawing diagrams, or structuring tables to make the thing's single meaning as plain as possible. Then one carefully checks and polishes every single sentence, every single citation until one is heartily sick of the things. Then one waits awhile or converses with colleagues about the article. Then it's FAC, complete with all the usual stress responses, until with good fortune, wearing out two or three sets of perfectly good worry beads, and a following wind, the thing gets its little bronze star.

This does not mean that I am totally against FAC, but it does go with a certain reluctance to spend much time there. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I see writing an FA as being akin to the male rite of passage. Not everyone has the ability to write FAs. The GA procedure is just one of many processes that must be completed prior to FAC. Writing an FA is labor-intensive, and it is quite emotional to see it Featured and visible to the public on the main page. Since Wikipedia revolves around the FAC procedure, I'm afraid I'll have to join the FA community. One of the main reasons I've been editing Wikipedia since 2022 is to write a ton of FAs. I find it a little disappointing that you feel that way about FAC. Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 12:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Wolverine XI: Sorry to hear that; there's no reason really, as it's a personal choice for everyone. My take is that one FA costs about as much work as 10-30 GAs, and I'd rather see that many GAs improving the encyclopedia; more than that, I'd rather see big complex articles on knotty subjects like Animal and Plant taken to GA than a few articles on easier topics dragged effortfully to FA. By the same token, I don't see GA as a stepping-stone to anything, but as the goal in itself, a decent article in a decent encyclopedia. As you say, it's not for everyone; getting major articles through GAN isn't easy either. I don't know about rites of passage, that's very much a personal feeling; some people unwisely see getting the Admin mop as the same thing. I've tried FAC and know how to do it but it takes a lot to get me to do it for a topic, there has to be a pretty good reason. That doesn't stop me from helping out here and there, or even going for it hell-for-leather now and again. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

To truly have an impact on Wikipedia—and especially on articles about animals—I feel compelled to write FAs. I think we can work on the chimpanzee article after I finish with narwhal? They are our closest living relatives, and they deserve the best article possible. Imagine the impact on global opinion and the amount of knowledge that will be spread about this amazing species after we feature the chimpanzee article. As things stand in its GA-state, I don't see anyone learning everything there is to know about chimps. Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 12:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

A great vision. Chimpanzee is certainly a big subject; it might make sense to start on Bonobo perhaps. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Why not both? I work on bonobo and we co-nominate chimpanzee? Wolverine XI ^{(den • 🐾)} 13:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Best way to get consensus on merging low-traffic agriculture articles?

Hi! So, while working on those livestock articles this week, I noticed several low-traffic, low-quality sub-articles which I think can be comfortably merged into more topic-specific articles, making that material more widely-viewed and easier to maintain. However, I am not sure of the best way to go about it as far as the procedure is concerned. Merging articles unilaterally, without a discussion, seems frowned upon, but a lot of those articles seem too obscure to attract any input during a merger discussion over a reasonable timeframe. Worse, the relevant WikiProjects, like Environment and Agriculture, also seem to be completely lacking in a core of users who could be expected to respond when a request for comment is posted to the WP talk page. Do you have any suggestions here? InformationToKnowledge (talk) 15:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

InformationToKnowledge: If articles are short, practically uncited, and at best marginally notable, then being bold and merging is pretty much the best solution. If they're more defensible, then discussion is generally essential, as editing can improve articles with additional sources. Rumen, for instance, is not well-cited but is definitely notable (22 million ghits; it gets some 200 views per day, 74,000 per year, which is pretty respectable: but even articles which get many fewer than this may be more than notable (measured by scientific paper count, for instance)), and is already covered in enough detail that it would not fit decently into Cattle (but would look like a WP:COATRACK) and merging would be destructive. Which articles did you have in mind? Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

These are the ones I spotted for now.

1) Intensive pig farming -> pig farming (and some parts of the article likely moved to the almost wholly-uncited section in Intensive animal farming)

2) Bovine genome database -> Bovine genome

3) Environmental impact of pig farming -> Environmental impacts of animal agriculture (a lot of content is poorly cited and will likely be culled outright before the merge)

4) Environmental impact of cattle production (the sub-article you split away) -> also to Environmental impacts of animal agriculture

For the last one, I started a merger discussion last week, but predictably, no-one has responded to it. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 16:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Those seem to make sense. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Ant mimicry

Hi, about a month ago there was a discussion on pl wiki about putting the translation of the article you've co-created to "Did you know" section. One of the biology experts - Carabus has made a lot of effort to review it all and made a lot of suggestions. One of them was to delete the whole "Myrmecophily" section, because - in his words - "it's unrelated to the topic". Here's the link for the discussion, I'm sending you it because you might be curious about it and it might also help make en wiki better, as this article has been awarded with Good Article title (it's all in Polish, but you can use some tools like Google Translation to get even more than a brief overview about what's happening there): https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Czy_wiesz/propozycje/2024-02/Myrmekomorfia

There's yet another discussion pending on pl wiki (about making it "Good Article'd"), but I'm waiting for the results: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Propozycje_do_Dobrych_Artyku%C5%82%C3%B3w/Myrmekomorfia.

Thanks for reading this block of text, regards Karol739 (talk) 16:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. Myrmecophily is certainly mimicry of ants. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Could you please elaborate? He has written that "he wouldn't name myrmecomorphical larvae of Lycaenidae or Myrmecophilidae" and stated it's "confusion of concepts". He also said something about Wassmannian mimicry in those species, yet "not all species have it".

(source of Carabus's message I cite: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Czy_wiesz/propozycje/2024-02/Myrmekomorfia)

I will definitely link this conversation to his discussion page, as it's really interesting for entomologists.

Thanks for clearing it out in advance, Karol739 (talk) 16:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, it's always possible that "ant mimicry" is broader than "myrmecophily", and the Polish definition may be narrower, I don't know. The Lycaenid caterpillars of course do not visually resemble ants, so the mimicry is by other means, such as chemical. To me that is still definitely "myrmecophily" but no doubt scientists use different definitions too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Do you have any scientific articles on that topic? I couldn't find it while reviewing sources you've cited, it might be really helpful to put it in both pl and en wiki versions of the article. Karol739 (talk) 16:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

What topic? But do note that myrmecophily is zoo-Greek "ant-loving", implying "ant mimicry", whereas "myrmecomorphy" is zoo-Greek for "ant-shaped", implying physical structure. Perhaps that is the issue over at PL wiki. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

It might be, as in Poland we don't have any term for "ant mimicry". It might be translated directly to "mimikra mrówcza", but it's not really correct, as it's not really used. That's why I named the article "Myrmekomorfia", which is translated simply to "Myrmecomorphy". As myrmecomorphy is not myrmecophily, it makes sense now. Thanks! Karol739 (talk) 16:46, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

File:Patrick Grant's Jungian View of LOTR.svg

It's semi-interesting, but I wonder what "Eowyn as negative animus" is supposed to mean?? AnonMoos (talk) 20:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Ours not to reason why, it's a standard item in Jungian psychoanalysis, and reliably cited. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

OK, but it doesn't seem to make much sense. AnonMoos (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

There's plenty on the subject on the web, e.g. Jungian Psychology Series: The Anima and Animus. The concepts are I think clear and readily grasped: Jung was not a woolly new-ager but a clinician with a sharp mind. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

P.S. File:Beowulf Tribes.svg is pretty helpful. AnonMoos (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Maize

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For all your work, help and patience in the GA review of Jo Clifford. Thank you! GnocchiFan (talk) 12:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very kind of you. I'm glad you're pleased with the result, and hope you'll pick an article from the GAN queue to review. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Literary devices in The Lord of the Rings

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Triangular Rings of Power diagram

I don't know why you didn't just refer me directly to the "Unfinished Tales" book, instead of to a 1-megabyte PDF file of some dude ruminating about Buddhism. Of course, if you had done so, it would have been evident that the reference was to the "Galadriel and Celeborn" section, which is the most tangled and sometimes self-contradictory part of Tolkien's whole framework. As Christopher Tolkien made clear, JRR Tolkien changed his mind a number of times about some things connected to Galadriel and Celeborn. If it were me, I would definitely not connect Narya to Gil-galad based on anything in that section of the "Unfinished Tales" book. AnonMoos (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Well, staying with the facts, we clearly agree that Gil-galad is at most a temporary ring-bearer in a UT draft; and that there is no great need to have him in the diagram. I've removed him. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I think that's best... AnonMoos (talk) 11:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

File:Patrick Grant's Jungian View of LOTR.svg

I just realized that you're the same person I previously tangled with over the worthless and useless "Aphrodite"[sic] gibberish on Paganism in Middle-earth (when Roman Catholic influence is a far simpler and more natural explanation), as well as changes to "Basic constituent structure analysis English sentence.svg". You undoubtedly have knowledge and technical skills in certain areas, but you also have narrow rigidities and curious blind-spots which make it almost useless to try to discuss issues which you have fixed preconceptions about, and are thus unwilling to admit the possibility of any alternative views to your own. I see now from page Talk:Paganism in Middle-earth that you've had an extended discussion with someone other than me about the Catholicism-denialism policy which you've unilaterally imposed onto that article. You have a sense of WP:OWNERSHIP over that article which is contrary to Wikipedia policies, and is blocking improvement of the article. AnonMoos (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

On the structure analysis file, the result of the discussion was a prompt change to the file, undoubtedly correct and many years ago, and I've never been near it since. On the "extended discussion with someone", that involved not just me and the "someone" but multiple editors, and we all agreed that the "someone" had an unacceptable point of view which was not supported by the evidence. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:38, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

It was not correct as you initially uploaded it, because "predicate" is not commonly used as a term in hierarchical constituent analysis. AnonMoos (talk) 11:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

And MEANWHILE, if you have little idea what the heck "File:Patrick Grant's Jungian View of LOTR.svg" is supposed to mean, and are unable to explain it in any meaningful way, then that means that you're necessarily unable to advance any valid argument as to why that image should be on the Galadriel article... AnonMoos (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

WP:NPA.

When I have a moment I'll look past the rudeness to see if any actions may be needed in response to any substantive points you may have made. For now I'll just note that if you believed what you have written about me, we could certainly not have any form of intelligent and constructive dialogue. Chiswick Chap (talk) 22:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Stop adding the diagram to the article -- if you have little knowledge of what it is, and can't really explain it when it seems to have some problematic aspects, then it's hard to see how you can really know whether it's useful to the article. I don't really care too much whether you mess up "Paganism in Middle Earth", but I care quite a bit if you add excrescent material to Galadriel. AnonMoos (talk) 11:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

(You'll see from the paragraph below that I was just adding that I don't agree about the "can't really explain", that is not correct, and between us we can certainly explain a bit more about Grant and (indirectly) Jung. On the diagram, it is reliably cited and readily justifiable, so the use of emotive "messing up" language is once again unhelpful. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) On Grant's Jungian view of Galadriel's relationships, I never said I couldn't explain it, just that I didn't want to put words in author's mouths, and that on the whole I felt it wasn't appropriate to go in depth into Jungian psychology in an article which is not mainly psychological, let alone Jungian. I did not claim to be the sole authority on such matters, quite the reverse; but I do note that Grant has received respectful treatment from multiple Tolkien scholars, and to my knowledge nobody has seriously challenged his interpretation. That is not to say that there aren't other, independent interpretations: those are summarised in the article in other sections. In other words, Tolkien scholarship tolerates multiple viewpoints, and the Wikipedia articles do their best to summarise the multifold analyses of almost every Tolkien topic. That is almost the opposite of anyone's thinking a particular point of view is the only correct one; and I don't find any single academic position on a character such as Galadriel particularly attractive, though often there are several positions on such topics which all seem to have some merit. Since you feel so strongly about it, I'm happy to add a couple of glosses (something you could of course have done yourself since you're familiar with the literature). Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

I've added glosses and direct quotations from Grant to explicate his view of Jungian archetypes as he applied them to Tolkien's characters. Clearly these may differ in some aspects from Jung's own formulations. If you want to tweak anything, or add a footnote on what Jung actually said, that would be fine; obviously inviting the reader to note errors in Grant's interpretation is straying quite close to the boundary of the acceptable, but a factual statement in a footnote should be all right. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:11, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tolkien and antiquarianism

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Million Award for Fish

	The Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Fish (estimated annual readership: 1,170,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 14:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

That's very kind of you, thank you very much! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cattle

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LUCA talk page

I was trying to put all the archives in the list because they weren't showing but then you also started editing. Anyways, I might was well leave it up to you since you are quite an experienced editor. Okmrman (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

OK, I've (I think) sorted out the mess, all I've done is renamed the archive and made the archive box point to it; the archive file is called Archive 1 so the next one will be Archive 2, etc. I can't see any sign of other archive files - I was concerned there might be dozens of mini-archives but it seems there was just one, let's hope so. If you find any more, I can merge them. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2012/March

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2012/April

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2013/May

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2014/March

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2015/May

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2016/September

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2018/October

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2019/January

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2019/August

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2021/August

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2021/December

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2022/May

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Last_universal_common_ancestor/Archives/2022/October

Okmrman (talk) 21:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

There are like 13 more extra archive pages that I linked. Okmrman (talk) 21:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. That was one of the maddest bits of archive design I've ever seen, tho' I admit I don't go about seeking such things. Let's hope that's the end of it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Yoga and the Buddha

Hi. I just read some of the definitions again at the Yoga-page; I was struck by the text from the Katha Upanishad: "They consider yoga to be firm restraint of the senses. Then one becomes un-distracted." The oldest Buddhist sutras say almost exactly the same; they keep hammering on sense-restraint. Noted of course many times by scholars, but Buddhism was not that different from other sramana-traditions from that time. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Not the same, but from the same cloth. I hope the yoga pages and articles on yoga texts make the many connections evident. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

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Alyosha (tank) discussion

Hello, I just wanted to better explain why I think that the Alyosha (tank) article is necessary. Like I said earlier, The purpose of the article is to tell the history of the tank similarly to other articles about named tanks such as Eagle 7 or Bomb. I also understand that there has been a lot of Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine from both the Russian and Ukrainian side. An example that I can think of from the Ukrainian side is the Ghost of Kyiv which the Security Service of Ukraine claimed had downed six Russian jets. Later it was found to be a myth however it was a moral booster for Ukrainian servicemen and women. An example from the Russian side is when they claimed to have killed 13 "French Mercenaries" in an airstrike on Kharkiv. However, unlike those two instances, there is video evidence of Alyosha in combat. Please feel free to comment. Salfanto (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Two wrongs do not make a right. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Agreed Salfanto (talk) 17:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

A Elbereth Gilthoniel

What exactly makes Laura Bishop noteworthy but not Moongates Guardian? Granted, it is an obscure genre, but it can be verified and is relevant to the article. I can't even find the version by Laura Bishop... (unsigned cmt 16:19, 16 April by 2024‎ 2a0a:a549:f2d8:0:c803:bb67:d278:3fae)

MG appears not to have attracted any reviews for this album, let alone for the song. What is done with other stuff may be right or wrong but is not relevant to the MG issue. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Rice and Fish in the Philippines

Hi Chiswick Chap, saw you had nominated Rice-fish system at GAN. In some work I've been doing offline I have found a bit on the Philippines which may be of interest, including a few paragraphs on history and some recent stats. Best, CMD (talk) 15:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC) CMD (talk) 15:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Credit where credit's due

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Thank you so much, that's really appreciated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Bioluminescence

Hiya, I see that you brought Bioluminescence up to GA status. I was thinking about updating the article with information from a recent study, "Evolution of bioluminescence in Anthozoa with emphasis on Octocorallia."

The study would change the lede slightly: "evidence that bioluminescence has arisen over 40 times" to "evidence that bioluminescence has arisen over 100 times." It would also impact the evolution section substantially. I wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the study's importance.

Best, -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 17:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Classicwiki That's a very new paper! Haddock is among the authors, so it has a good pedigree. Ideally we'd choose a (systematic) review article for such a major change, rather than relying on a single research article, but the work has much of the nature of a review so I think we can trust it for the number of occurrences. Your "substantially" isn't much to go on for what may need to be done to the evolution section; I hope any changes will be conservative and consist mainly of additions. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rice-fish system

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Animals

If you think there should be no new stuff in Animals, maybe rather delete the stuff that is actually no really relevant, such as the section on "Historically, Aristotle divided animals ...." -- because that doesn't say anything of importance to animal biology or use. Peteruetz (talk) 17:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for discussing. The point is, rather, that the subject of 'Animal' encyclopedically consists of the history of human understanding of animals, the taxonomy and evolution of animals, the biology of animals, and so on. That, like it or not, is the subject. Biology is one aspect of that, not the totality. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Question about sheep, rams, ewes, etc.

Hey! I had this realization today and thought you would probably be a good person to as for feedback on the matter. At the moment, ram and ewe are both redirects which end up leading to sheep. This is fine enough, but I can't shake the feeling that rams and ewes might be encyclopedically notable subjects splitable from discussion of sheep, generally. Bull and Ox are separate articles from Cattle after all, and there are certainly differences in agricultural context and behavior between the animals. Just wanted to hear your thoughts! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, it could be fine either way. My feeling is that Ram is a much smaller topic than Bull, much further from the public consciousness: and the same goes for Ewe compared to Cow. A Ram article would go into the characteristics of the males of different breeds, which could be worthwhile. A Ewe article would do ... what? The ewe's characteristics are, well, those of sheep; I think we might be struggling with CFORK there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Completionist Barnstar
		You might have done more to complete the encyclopedia than any other editor. You are relentless in your production of high-quality articles. Keep it up! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

History of Christianity

Hi! You were recommended to me as someone who might be interested enough in the Middle Ages history to give the center sections of this article a once over. I would like to see it go FA. I have never had one, but this is a kind of "flagship" article and I think it should be among the best - but I need help! Any comments at all will be deeply appreciated. Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Jenhawk777: well, I'm not a medievalist (even if I've read my Beowulf), nor much of an FAC denizen (even if I have some little bronze stars). The effort to attain an FA is probably at least 10 times that needed for a GA, though the ratio has perhaps become less with changes at GAN. The main things that I imagine I know about FAC are that there is an exceptional amount of attention paid to polish: small details of style, punctuation, phrasing, layout; that there is a concern for 'comprehensiveness', whatever that might be on a topic that may have had hundreds of lengthy books written about it; and that there is ferocious attention given to every citation. These are most easily mitigated by choosing a topic that is rather well-circumscribed; by starting from scratch and writing the whole article yourself, or in a small team of collaborating editors; and by adding each sentence with its source open in front of one, and following a rigid policy for citation, such as only using books and putting every book used into the 'cite book' template with all parameters filled at once.

The corollary of all that is that a topic that has been edited by many hands, that may contain many doubtful or obsolete statements, may have a wobbly division into sections, and that may be incompletely cited, cited to doubtful sources, or cited with poorly-formatted and incomplete references, is a recipe for a great deal of hard work to check everything, or else a great deal of trouble at FAC.

History of Christianity is an exceptionally long article at over 287,000 bytes. The body of the article (minus the lead, references, sources) is around 16,000 words or 36 pages of A4. That might take an hour to read. There are a terrifying number of references — almost 700, and an equally alarming number of sources. Those could raise serious concerns at FAC.

At a glance, the sources look extremely solid, as one might expect for such a subject, and they include some of recent date.

A small thing: the images occupy very different amounts of the screen (area, X times Y pixels). There are some tiny little maps in 'Africa', which I agree are readable in a general sort of way at such a small scale; there are conventional thumbnails; and there are some much bigger images, like the one of Pius XI. FAC might well wonder why this was. My policy is to use the default thumbnail size for landscape images, and "|upright" thumbnails for portrait images; I then make maps and diagrams sometimes much bigger so as to make any text they contain readable without a hand-lens; but all such rational choices can be criticised.

On the Middle Ages, well, there are four chapters Early-Middle-High-Late, adding to some 6,000 words of text. There obviously needs to be some coverage of this period; I note that you have a 'main' article in Christianity in the Middle Ages, just as you do on Reformation and so forth, so it would be possible to provide much less coverage here and just summarize each of the 'main' articles in a few paragraphs. Of course that would be a radical transformation here, which might cut the article's size quite dramatically, and so ease the article's passage through FAC.

If that approach isn't acceptable, I can say that the Middle Ages text is very readable and that it certainly looks richly cited. I notice that 'With civil authority' has statements cited to 3 or in one case 4 sources: that might well attract attention at FAC; near the start of 'Late Middle Ages' there's one with 6 sources and a note, which would certainly get commented upon. A statement like "Christians were dhimma." might well be thought somewhat wikt:Delphic, too: a brief gloss of the unusual term might be helpful. I see you've kept the table of contents to a minimum number of levels: with the odd exception of 'In Mesopotamia and Egypt', which incidentally makes the 'With Islam' section unbalanced, as there's one unnamed subsection and one named one.

I hope these brief jottings may be of some use. The other thing you might consider is picking a small article in a good state, and working it up to FAC standard first, so as to get practice (and with any luck a bronze star) before you go for the big one. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Clash of the titansposter.jpg listed for discussion

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Pope's villa

Argie-bargie here. Don't know if that's in your parish. Johnbod (talk) 13:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks! It's not far away, maybe I'll get down there sometime and give the article a once-over. The editor in question has accidentally got him/herself indeffed on the first attempt, and it doesn't look as if they've read the notice explaining how they can appeal and change their username. If I ever see them, I'll lend a word of encouragement. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I left a mild complaint on the indeffer's talk. Johnbod (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

For future reference

This user is prolific LTA User:علي_أبو_عمر. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. They didn't get anything from me, and I saw they got blocked soon after asking here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of J. R. R. Tolkien's ambiguity

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Thank you for Tolkien's prose style

I hope all is well. Have not been keeping up with the latest article developments (sorry). I have just read through Tolkien's prose style and enjoyed it very much (I think the name changed at some point). Is there an easy way to see the chronological development of your article work in this area? I suppose a starting point would be the dates of articles that you created, but that would miss the editing you did on already-existing articles? Probably not a high priority, but I did wonder. Carcharoth (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thank you. There is a GA tool that lists all a person's GAs with dates, so that offers a compact history. My Articles page doesn't do dates but groups my GAs thematically. There won't be many more as I've about caught up with current Tolkien research, and there are probably more Analysis GAs on JRRT than on any other author ... and that's not including the in-universe-style GAs, which obviously have some analytic content. Chiswick Chap (talk) 02:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Translating The Lord of the Rings

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Women in Green GA Editathon June 2024 - Going Back in Time

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Correction Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon

Do you can change it, please? I can not.

{{Rue Buffon (Paris)}|fr}}, a{{Rue Buffon (Paris)}|fr}}, Lkirsteng (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorted. Chiswick Chap (talk) 01:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Laburnum in Tolkien

Dear Chiswick Chap,

I have recently read an essay on The Lord of The Rings which dealt with Frodo's plot arc, and identified his personal climax as the Field of Cormallen. It made much of the ring of laburnums around that location. Despite searching many relevant journals (I don't think it was a blog post, but I can't be certain) I have failed to identify it. I wonder if you have read it, and if so can you bring the source to mind?

And while I am here, thank you for your continuing work on all articles Tolkien and Middle-earth. I am delighted by both your scholarship and your energy!

-- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 16:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I have found it here: 'Peak Middle-earth' by Michael Ward. It is a blog post, which I copied, but failed to recognise it from the filename, because I omitted the sub-title. -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 17:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Laburnums, hmm. They do sound suburban, wonder why T chose those. Peak for Frodo ... hmm, well, yes, it was peak happiness, all downhill after that (and mostly downhill before that, actually). Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Potato

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Book

Maybe this book, Karen O'Brien-Kop (2022), Rethinking 'Classical Yoga' and Buddhism: Meditation, Metaphors and Materiality, is on interest to you. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Article

Hi i will ask you , can you check this article please User:Journalistinsaudiarabia/sandbox and give me your opinion to improve this article and put your edits there and thanks Journalistinsaudiarabia (talk) 06:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, but it's out of my area, and last time I did this it turned out to be a sockpuppet. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm new here and I'm learning to create articles - I don't understand what you mean Journalistinsaudiarabia (talk) 07:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Aha. In that case, I wish you all the best with your editing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

you too Journalistinsaudiarabia (talk) 07:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

And an hour later you're blocked as a sock, well well fancy that. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Personal Inquiry

Hi Chiswick Chap,

We had an interaction on the tree page and it spurred me to look into your contribution history and editing style, which I found inspiring.

I'm a fairly new editor, but a long time reader, with an interest in improving articles in my realm of knowledge and interest as much as possible, and I was curious if you had interest in providing some light mentorship.

I'm an experienced Arborist with a deep interest in ecology, biology, trees etc, and I am irked by the quality of some of the related articles such as Pruning but I'm a bit overwhelmed and unsure how to go about raising the quality of them.

I'm mostly looking for an experienced editor that is welcoming of general questions and giving feedback occasionally.

Thanks, have a nice day. Infectedfreckle (talk) 14:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in WP:GARC

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Margaret Carroux

Done. Happy to hear any comments you may have. DYK and probably GA noms to follow soon. —Kusma (talk) 10:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:GARC: Invitation to review Margaret Carroux

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Your GA nomination of The Defence of Duffer's Drift

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Your GA nomination of Biological determinism

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OTD

story · music · places

Nice to see Escher on the Main page today, on his birthday, - thank you for what you put into the article. I picked my story today around him. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Etymologies (Tolkien)

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Would you want to comment on this

I note your edit[1]. You may not have seen an answer as they were busy with [2].

The reason I am contacting you is that you might be able to comment on the issue that gave rise to the above: my query of the over-confident attribution of the arrival of the banana in Africa to Austronesian seafarers[3]. To be clear, I am looking for the opinion (formal or informal) of an editor who works in this subject: is there any evidence that Austronesians (specifically) translocated bananas from Western ISEA/Sri Lanka to Africa? They were probably involved in other parts of the journey, but not, as far as I can see, proven to be the seafarers in the last leg. (Nor the first step out of New Guinea - see Pre-Austronesian dispersal of banana cultivars West from New Guinea: linguistic relics from Eastern Indonesia, Denham and Donahue 2009 [4]).

I take the view that the Wikipedia article should, at a minimum, use the carefully guarded language that you find in this subject review paper[5]. I don't see that a bit of speculation in a research paper[6] (i.e. a primary source, used to support text in Austronesian peoples) warrants the language found in the Wikipedia article. What I am asking for is your opinion.

Incidentally, I have already detected a likely instance of a related subject where an error in Wikipedia has been recycled through a research paper[7] and back to Wikipedia, as explained here[8]. This seems to be a reason for Wikipedia to take extra care to get things right in the first place.

Not a problem if this is not the sort of thing you want to tackle. If you want to pass, is there anywhere else you could suggest that I look for an opinion?
Thanks, ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 15:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, 1) you should feel completely at liberty to make the language more guarded, specially if you could cite the article you mention as evidence 2) I have noticed some likely Austronesian POV'pushing, so if you see any of that, feel free to revert it and warn the editor concerned. If they persist it should go to ANI. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Elijah Wood DYK

Hello, I'm very sorry that I wasn't able to reply, real life commitments had taken up a lot of time and I eventually stopped checking WP for awhile. Best, Lord Theoden (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Not to worry, real life must take precedence. Glad you're back now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:47, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! --Lord Theoden (talk) 12:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Domestic Duck

Hi. I'm curious about Special:Diff/1230718080. That information is in the logs. What is the value in duplicating it with an in-line comment? RoySmith (talk) 15:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

So that those of us unfamiliar with log searches (and who wouldn't think of trying there in the normal run of events) can see this key bit of history, in the event that asking for protection in some form becomes necessary, i.e. make an informed request at some stage in the future. Some agriculture articles have had quit a surprising level of vandalism ... and in BE, rubber duck rhymes with ...., so anything is possible. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Modified "primorial" method, called nabla-deltorial

Modified "primorial" method, called   nabla-deltorial

A modification of the "primorial" method was created, called nabla-deltorial, symbolically designated as ∇Δ(pₙ), and although the initial measurements of the "primorial" were ambitiously aimed at breaking (among other things) also cipher codes, it is still far from that. However, factoring large numbers with divisors of "intermediate" size, i.e. not too high - is supposed to go "surprisingly" smoothly.

The "paper" is available here: https://www.1universe.gpe.pl/prime/deltorial.html

I will soon start writing an entry about it on Wikipedia, its name will be nabla-deltorial ∇Δ      - I recommend it to your attention, and greetings to the titans of work...

~~~~ BaSzRafael (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The History of Middle-earth

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Mort

Hi, I was going by the William Hill prize style at the foot of Gary Imlach. Is your change an improvement? Ericoides (talk) 18:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

It's more British, at least, which might be a consideration in her case; and it's less of a mouthful, as we say, of the "Robbery suspect arrest law court challenge drama" sort, one gigantic noun-phrase... Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and rationale. I had this in mind, but you may be right. Ericoides (talk) 04:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Domestic duck

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Translations of the Lord of the Rings

Morning CC - just querying why you redid the move the of the above page when your prior move has been contested. Per WP:RMUM the next step is to seek a formal WP:RM discussion to formnalise the move, not to simply reinstate the contested move. Please could you self-revert. I've also reverted your undiscussed split out into a separate "List of..." page. THis is unnecessary given the length of the page, it's perfectly normal to include the list itself at the bottom of the prose in such cases. Again, a split would need a discussion and proper consensus before re-enacting. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Amakuru: The split has been discussed and more or less approved at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of translations of The Lord of the Rings. —Kusma (talk) 10:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kusma: the split should be discussed before it goes ahead, not after. Please seek consensus and provide justification for why that might be necessary. I see absolutely no reason for a split, the page is only 30kb long in prose and the list isn't particularly long either.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Amakuru, your merge does not fully align with the most recent consensus in the AfD discussion, so it is up to you to "seek consensus and provide justification". The current status quo is the split version, and the standalone list-free prose has recently passed GA. —Kusma (talk) 10:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree. I just wrote a detailed reply here that the edit conflict thingy failed to flag as such, and it vanished into the ether. Never mind, you've stated the position concisely. BTW: The page is 86,000 bytes, not short by Wiki-standards, and the list is another 30,000 bytes, which is quite long enough for a list and occupies multiple pages of printout already. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pseudotranslation in The Lord of the Rings

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Your GA nomination of Christian light in Tolkien's legendarium

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Your GA nomination of Cassava

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Your GA nomination of Latymer Upper School

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GANs

Hey, there. Thinking of picking up some GANs for review. You have some out there that interest me. Any preference for which of yours I choose first? – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 22:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

That's great. I think you should pick whichever interest you most, really, that usually works best. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I'll pick something up later today. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 10:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC) – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 10:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Mental illness in Middle-earth interests me, but I'm not a Tolkien expert. I've read The Hobbit and seen the movies. Do you think I would be able to review it effectively?

I'm sure you'll do fine. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm also interested in the three grains/pseudograins. Depending on how many I do, I may look at one or more of them. I'm not new to plants articles. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 10:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Super. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Christopher Tolkien

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WP:GARC: Invitation to review 2022 Highland Council election

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DYK for Big Duck

On 19 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Big Duck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a big duck (pictured) helped promote duck farming on Long Island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Big Duck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Big Duck), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

^Complex/_Rational 00:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Domestic duck

On 19 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Domestic duck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a big duck (pictured) helped promote duck farming on Long Island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Big Duck. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Domestic duck), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

^Complex/_Rational 00:03, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Banana

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Physical culture

Hi, I know in the past you edited some articles on physical culture, I created many articles myself for famous physical culturists. Recently two new articles have been created Western physical culture and Indian physical culture. The problem is that these articles contain a lot of WP:OR and many of the sources do not specifically mention "physical culture". Although there were some antecedents - physical culture started in the 19th-century. The western physical culture article contains a lot of odd material for example a photograph of Bin Laden and a section on "Muscular religious nationalism" which is not sourced to content on physical culture. I believe that these articles need to be deleted and or merged to physical culture (which needs expanding). Do you have any suggestions about this? As a historian I have done a lot of research into physical culture, I am generally disappointed with these new articles. They contain misleading content. Psychologist Guy (talk) 12:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. My approach to PC was largely limited to its relationship with Yoga as exercise, which it certainly influenced. It sounds as if the Western and Indian articles are more or less worthless, so deletion or merging are appropriate. Yoga as exercise#History sets out and cites the basics of PC's influence in India. The material is not repeated in Postural yoga in India#Indian practices for independence, which could certainly be extended with an account of the historical background including PC in India. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oat

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A question

Hey, I recently published an update to River similar to that of Island, but I was asked to find a talk page consensus for the rewrite. I will try not to elaborate any further, besides to ask for your opinion on the talk page discussion and if you have any advice for next steps. ForksForks (talk) 21:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Gosh, quite a situation. The article as it now is obviously needs a lot of citing; it seems to read well at a glance but anything so largely unsourced will be hard to defend. Your approach of making one very large edit to an established article is unfortunately open to the single-revert strategy. The assertion that a decade ago things were great is a pretty weak argument: for one thing, research must have moved on in that time, and threats like climate change have sharpened. So there are certainly facts on both sides. Best now will be to agree the principle of update, starting with the indisputable - paragraphs must be cited. From there, work in small but definite updates. Then ensure images and text work together. If there us still more to do after that, try it in stages. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I am trying to figure out how I can attract talk page discussion for this. The page has some watchers, but it seems more like I will be trying to run each section by that one fellow in order to get it published. If there were a few people around it would be a lot easier to figure out a consensus but my worry is it's just going to be crickets. Would an RFC be out of process? ForksForks (talk) 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

That sounds a bit extreme. Try posting a note on each of the relevant WikiProjects' talk pages first. I've often felt I was "crying in the wilderness" like John the Baptist or something, but actually there are folks out there (if not too many in July and August when the Northern Hemisphere goes on holiday!). Good luck with it, and try one step at a time. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rye

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Thanks

Thanks for getting Peter Jackson's interpretation of The Lord of the Rings to GA-status – it makes for an interesting read. Cremastra (talk) 13:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

That's very kind of you. I guess it was something of a labour of love, and I'm glad it has come out well. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

In appreciation

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Thank you very much! Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Cucurbita scheduled for TFA

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Thanks for your good wishes. Yes, I didn't see anything to fix there. It's good to see you still active here. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 01:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy notice of WP:GARC

Thought I would explain/see if it's okay with you. I figure an effective GARC would have a lot of churn, so it has some energy behind it. So I have "nominated" Sorghum in exchange for me doing a review of someone elses' work. No extra work on your end obviously, and it's not languishing in queue, but the person who reviews it is likely a different person, and a different type of person, than who would have reviewed it if not for this. I can swap it out for a different article if you'd prefer. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 19:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Kara Nova page

Did you create the Kara Nova page? 70.57.33.99 (talk) 18:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I didn't. Back in 2011, I found sources for the existing text, which had been created by another editor. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I am unable to delete it, and sadly it is no longer an accurate reflection of my work. For the record I was never an American gymnast. I do not know who created this page to begin with, it’s a poor reflection. I have ardently tried to revise it but Wiki mods are impossible. Original Kara Nova (talk) 23:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

It pops up on Google searches and is misleading to future clients. Original Kara Nova (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, three things.

Deleting facts that have been reliably cited is quite rightly difficult on Wikipedia: things that were once notable are permanently notable. That doesn't stop their context being updated; we can say "In 2011, she was ..." and then "In 2021, she ..." which will at once set old actions and events aside from newer ones.

That means the article needs newer materials. If you have done anything noteworthy since 2011, i.e. things reported in newspapers or other other reliable independent sources, those can be mentioned and cited.

It is not recommended that people edit articles about themselves, as neutrality is hard to maintain and conflict of interest is always a risk; the best approach is to put requests on the article's talk page, naming the facts to be described and listing the reliable sources that support those facts. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

The article certainly look(ed) well out of date. I've added a few words about A Solitary Mann which is I guess notable for the award that it won. I didn't find anything else to mention but if you know of sources I can use them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for updating it, that helps some. I’m just confused as to why editors base my life’s work on random things that pop up on the internet. The Old Time Religion thing is far from notable, I worked with that company for years and there’s much better evidence. Additionally I was a “witch” rather than saint in that act. As for the Nevada Theatre, I was not merely on the bill, but produced the entire show, and have produced 3 at the venue.

I think I was a background actor in A Solitary Mann for 30 seconds, as the film is about my painter friend.

Again, with the exception of the Nevada Theatre, none of those events are notable. The entire German article happened because my friend was hosting a foreign exchange intern at the time! Original Kara Nova (talk) 15:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, glad it's a bit better. We work from what can be found in WP:RS, which is not limited to the Internet; many articles are written from history books, for instance. Obviously for living people, the Web is the first port of call. I'll fix the saint now. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate it, thanks. Original Kara Nova (talk) 16:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Chiswick Chap. Thank you for the encouragement of a Tolkien Barnstar. The work was not so much dufficult as tedious; all the errors are listed on the cleanup listing, I just had to go through them one by one and work out which were still errors (some had been fixed without the talk page being amended) and so forth. But I admit I was flagging, until your message came through at just the right time.

As you can see, most of the broken anchors are now resolved. I will expand the Beleriand physical geography section a bit to make better anchors for River Sirion and River Gelion - Ered Wethrin was fixed but I think I forgot the Talk page on that one. I will also find better places for the Shire locations and the Weather Hills. However, I'm a bit stuck with Vaiya. I had to look it up in the Hammond and Scull Guide myself, and I'm not sure in where it would fit best in an article. If you have any suggestions, I'd be grateful.

The gaming and Hobbit film redirects I shall leave, through lack of personal interest. Perhaps not the most Wikipedian attitude, but we do this because we have enthusiasm for it, and they lie just outside the current boundaries of my zeal! -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 12:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mimicry in plants

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Good article reassessment for Batik

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Diagram for Fictional planets of the Solar System

Hi! I recently made a diagram request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop# Request: Lead image for Fictional planets of the Solar System, see there for details. I know you have made a fair number of diagrams for various topics, so I figured I would ask you directly. If you happen to have the time and inclination, I would greatly appreciate your help. If not, I understand and will patiently wait for someone else to take up the request. All the best, TompaDompa (talk) 15:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, File:Fictional_Planets_of_the_Solar_System.svg really improves the Fictional planets of the Solar System article a lot! TompaDompa (talk) 17:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:GARC: Invitation to review Mixed climbing

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To accept or decline this invitation to review the article, visit WT:GARC#Circle #10.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

"restore format, this is for maintainability so please leave it alone, thanks"

Hi there, Chiswick Chap. I just wanted to let you know that I didn't intentionally remove the infobox formatted spaces on Gymnarchus. It seems switching from Visual to Source mode does that. At least, I think that's when it occurs; and probably should be reported but I don't know where. Thank you, Maqdisi (talk) 14:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for the explanation. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of A mythology for England

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The Invisible Barnstar

		The Invisible Barnstar
		Just logging back to my account and seeing your GA review and tidy up of Mixed climbing ! Delighted and very grateful for your review and for bringing it to an efficient conclusion - that was above and beyond and much appreciated! Aszx5000 (talk) 17:21, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Do you want me to reply to the outstanding GA questions here or should I add them to the end of the GA review? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk)

Many thanks! As you like, but the main thing is to clarify the article if anything needs explaining... all the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Phial of Galadriel

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Your GA nomination of Sorghum

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Your GA nomination of Phial of Galadriel

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Reversion

rv, that link is already above, no need to repeat it down here

So are other links in the section. The intention was to include a closely-related article per WP:SEEALSO. يوسف قناوة (talk) 14:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing. However, 'See also' should never repeat any links already in use, per WP:MOS. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Mediterranean cuisine

Curiosity: why are you creating so many unnecessary lines? They aren't necessary. JacktheBrown (talk) 16:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I've created no "lines" of any sort anywhere. The spacing does not appear in any browser; they are for readability when editing. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mental illness in Middle-earth

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Your GA nomination of Tolkien's Round World dilemma

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Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

Hello Chiswick Chap:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Your GA nomination of Fish in culture

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Yoke etc.

Hi. Some input at Talk:Yoga would be most welcome. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

advice on batik article

Hello, I noticed that there has been several attempts to add "ackchyually batik is malay" in the batik page. I tried adding passage (with journal reference) acknowledging that the dispute exist, so that people would not kept adding petty batik is malay batik is indonesian remarks. I do not thing a separate page of the dispute is necessary though. If the way now is veering towards undue, what do you think should be done so that at least the journal reference can be used. Shorter passage or perhaps making it into an efn note? Alteaven (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Mmm, I really don't know. Eventually we'll have to talk to the people trying to add the material; I suppose we can try to get the page protected, and if the people are really disruptive we can seek to get them blocked. It may help to give them a friendly warning, and if that doesn't work, to issue templated warnings levels 1, 2, 3, ..., or it may not. The separate page thing was totally off the cuff, I doubt it's feasible. A footnote might help as you say. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

tried to making the passage shorter, and hopefully people would get the idea. Alteaven (talk) 04:18, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Alteaven, I notice from this that she is au fait with Malay/Indonesian matters, and may be a useful admin to keep in mind if you need help again. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pouyannian mimicry

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Fish Taxonomy

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Thanks. Quetzal1964 (talk) 09:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

White Mountain Art Good Article

@Z1720 posted on the Talk page for White Mountain art his concerns about its Good Article status. Why is this person questioning this and what appears to be so many other Good Articles? Should this article really be put up for review? Not in my opinion. JJ (talk) 18:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chili pepper

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Batik page vandalism

Oh dear, it seems that the Malaysia-Indonesia vandalism is not going away in a while in this page. There has been persistent changes of Indonesia > Malaysia, deleting UNESCO recognition from Indonesia section, etc. I've requested a protection, just an FYI. Alteaven (talk) 01:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Alteaven, the editors are certainly not "adhering to a neutral point of view". I have issued a warning to the most recent editor: I may issue one or two more. I would suggest that you get into the habit of warning such users so they learn they'll get into trouble if they continue. I see your RPP request was declined; admins like to see proof either of a lot of vandalism, or multiple troublesome edits with evidence that you have warned them repeatedly, i.e. you gave them a neutrality or other warning at level 1, then level 2, then level 3, ... and then asked for RPP. If a lot of users all make vandalising edits within a few days, that would persuade most admins. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tomato

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Citrus-related GAs

Hi Chiswick Chap, I see you're smashing through some citrus-related GAs! Best of luck with those. I made a Reward Board post about that a little while ago, so I would be very happy to award you the Bio-Star or the Food & Drink star for every citrus-related GA you do. GraziePrego (talk) 07:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks, let's hope they do well! Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

TFA

story · music · places

Thank you and team today for Cucurbita, "about the genus of plants called squash, pumpkin, and/or gourd depending on local parlance. They are native to the Western Hemisphere. The fruits of this genus are an important source of human food and play several roles in human culture. We've enjoyed working on this for over a year and hope you enjoy reading it. There are many people without whom we could not have gotten this article this far; too many of them to list here."! - My small share: I took the Madrid pic. Rich Main page today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I took the Kew Gardens pic! Thanks Gerda, as always. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Inserting references after notes

Peugeot 8Aa review. I don't know how to put a reference after the note. Can you assist me so I can see how this is done. The ref I want to put is:

Thanks in advance

Stivushka (talk) 14:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Chiswick Chap ([[User talk:

Good article reassessment for Carrot

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Your GA nomination of Citrus

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Your GA nomination of Lemon

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Your GA nomination of Goat

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Your GA nomination of The Fellowship of the Ring

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Bio-Star

		The Bio-star
		For excellent work in upgrading citrus-related articles, here is your bio-star! GraziePrego (talk) 09:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey

I hope I haven't aggravated you in some way with my recent edits. I know you're a very passionate Tolkienite who's invested in articles being up to their highest standard of quality around here. Fruitful Frugal (talk) 15:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. No, I'm not aggravated but you should familiarise yourself with both British English and WikiProject Middle-earth's standards (which are basically very close to general Wiki standards for plain encyclopedic language and plot summaries) if you mean to edit on the project. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Recent edit at Plant

I was inclined to agree that this edit was ok, but the passage then goes on to include forestry in agriculture (which to me is a bit odd), but if it is included, then "vascular" would be ok, but not "flowering". Um... Peter coxhead (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

OK, tweaking it now. More urgent maybe is what's been happening in the lead here and at Fl. P. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Good tweak. I quite agree about the leads. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Myrmecophyte

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In appreciation

		The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
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In appreciation

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Your GA nomination of Grapefruit

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Suggestions...

I don't want to be rude. But I know of three articles that could sorely use your knowledge and ability to write of both biology and cultural topics. Gynogenesis, black cat, and white tiger. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I'm afraid that coloured cats aren't my cup of tea, and fertility is right at the outer edge of my interest and knowledge (way too medical for me really) but I'll take a quick look at the gyno article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

SilverTiger12: I've cleaned up the article a bit, and had fun making a diagram. I think it makes a complex topic seem relatively comprehensible! Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Vavilovian mimicry

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Your GA nomination of Human uses of fish

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Your GA nomination of Gilbertian mimicry

I seem to have beaten the bot to it. The article is now a GA. Bravo! Tim riley talk 15:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For your exceptionally fine piece of creative writing at WP:ALLMAD that reads better than many books! 172.97.141.219 (talk) 02:48, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks, that's very kind of you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mandarin orange

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The quick and the dead

Excellent work! Bearian (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Columbian exchange

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