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Merci de répondre en français mais il est choquant de moi de voir que le Président de la zone que vous "conneries" sur votre page d'accueil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.236.111 (talk) 21:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
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You added this to 2011 Super outbreak, but this category is hidden so it seems to provide no information when one looks at the redirect unless they click "Edit". --TimL (talk) 17:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that. I'm not sure quite what the reasoning behind making the category hidden was, but I just assume that if it's hidden there's a reason for it. Ks0stm(T)19:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
You wrote at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books#User:Ks0stm/A Pristine Suicide that you have a conflict of interest with the author of the book User:Ks0stm/A Pristine Suicide. I thank you for admitting your COI. I am willing to take over the draft if the book becomes notable. Having reviewed the book's website, I found that it is published by Virtualbookworm, a self-publish and print-on-demand company. It is unlikely but not improbable that the book will become notable. When publishing books, major publishing companies work hard to publicize them through advertisements and other media. A self-published book is immediately at a disadvantage because the author is on his own. Most self-published books fail to garner the reviews necessary to pass the notability guidelines though there have been some exceptions: Category:Self-published books. At the moment, a Google search and a Google News Archive search return no reliable sources about the book. Please contact me if reviews are published about the book.
Because you know the author and his family, would be able to obtain a free photograph of the author and photographs related to the book's subject? Cunard (talk) 09:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I might be able to, but it's not something that I would try until I knew for sure there was going to be an article about it. I'll see where it goes. You are quite right that it may never reach Wikipedia-level notability, although last I knew the book actually was pitching it to the media, etc. Ks0stm(T)09:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Bart Allen said investigators described Destry's death as a "pristine suicide," perfectly laid out for them at the depot -- the gun on a table, atop a snapshot of Destry and his girlfriend, Nichole Lavnikevich, an ashtray of bullets, Destry's cell phone on the table, with call logs showing he had talked to Nichole that night.
A Bart Allen to sign copies of " A Pristine Suicide ". 6:30-8:30 p.m. in the lobby/south corridor foyer of Salina Public Library.
The first source predates the book and the second is a trivial mention. I hope that a reporter from The Salina Journal reviews the novel. If The Salina Journal publishes a review of the book, and if a non-local publication reviews the book, it will pass the notability guidelines. Cunard (talk) 09:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello Ks0stm; I was reading the Administrators' noticeboard and followed your thread to User:Portillo talk page, and I found myself saying "Duh" so I must ask, do you mind if I create and use a user template for myself using your "If you reply here, please leave me a talkback on my talk page" as a base template.? Mlpearcpowwow03:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
I assume you mean the one that shows up in my signature on other user's talk pages only...that can be found at User:Ks0stm/sig.css. The signature shows up on pages other than user talk pages as you see it at that AN post, as you saw it at Portillo's talk page on user talk pages other than my own, and as you see it here on my talk page only. I would have no problem with you using any or all of it, but I actually got the idea from someone else (I can't quite remember who at the moment). Ks0stm(T)03:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanx. I was just going to create something in userspace, did not realize that yours was set up this way, do you have {{User:Ks0stm/sig.css}} in your signature application in user pref's ? I will watch here for a reply :P Mlpearcpowwow04:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I do (subst:'d though)...in the end it meets length requirements even though it doesn't look that way on the sig.css page. Ks0stm(T)04:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry about it, it's fine. Without little distractions like this I'd probably sit refreshing my watchlist over and over waiting for something to happen. I'm waiting for a User:SuggestBot suggestion to come in to give me some articles I might want to work on, so for the past few days I've just mainly been stalking my RfA and various other WP space discussions. Ks0stm(T)04:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
It looks like your RfA is going to be fairly close. The salient point brought out in the oppose/neutral sections relates to your answer to question 3. I think you are being unfairly maligned by these folks for the following reason: the question specifically asks, "Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress?" The followup asks you how you have dealt with it, and most importantly how you would you deal with it in the future.
You are being perfectly transparent by citing some examples of situations that weren't handled perfectly. The opposers seem to be critical of how you handled the examples you cited; however, that's not what the question really asks. You have acknowledged that problem initially could have been handled better. You told them how you have dealt with it, and most importantly clearly state how you would deal with it in the future, "I would probably express my opinion in less strong of wording" and "I...accept concensus, even if its not a concensus that I agree with." You deserve kudos for being transparent by citing these tough situations as examples. I hope the closing 'crat takes this point into careful consideration. Best of luck,--Hokeman (talk) 12:10, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
I happen to agree with the above statement. I think that this is going to be a very, very close RfA, especially as it's going into the last few hours, but I'm pretty sure that you are going to get the mop. At least I hope so. Even though I initially opposed you, I am fully confident in your abilities for two important reasons. First, you had the chance to give a garden-variety blow-off answer to Q3, but you didn't. You didn't give the political answer, you gave the right answer. To me, this shows a level of honesty and character that impresses me far more than the actual answer makes me uneasy. The second reason? Juliancolton doesn't nominate bad admin candidates. Trusilver21:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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I've closed your RfA as successful. The New Admin School might be useful to play around with admin tools, and here is the how-to guide. This and this are good words of caution—had I known of that before, I wouldn't be the reason as to why these two pages exist. :p Good luck with the new tools. Maxim(talk)23:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
As close as the RfA was, I wasn't sure how it would be closed, but I'm glad you got the mop. Good luck with it. :) -- Atama頭23:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations and welcome to the most hated Wikipedia user group! This wasn't an easy !vote for me especially as some of my most respected colleagues were in the 'oppose' section. Nevertheless, I'm sure that you will use the tools with great caution and that you will not hesitate to ask other admins for advice or their opinion on anything you're not sure about. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Congratulation on succeeding at RfA, I imagine it was stressful for you, but you did very well. I am glad the closing bureaucrat showed what I consider good discretion in closing the request. Make us proud! My76Strat (talk) 03:29, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Good luck! Remember one thing, though: Don't ever click the "block" link when you are changing somebody's block settings. You'll just nail yourself! Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok, took me a moment to wrap my head around that. Thanks for pointing that out. Note to self: Look beyond just who created an XfD when considering G7. Ks0stm(T)00:52, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Feel free to create one; the template was speedy deleted rather than by deletion discussion, so there's no problem with creating it again. Worst comes to worst if it's nominated for deletion again I'll move it into your userspace for you. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)18:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind removing the whole block on "If you reply here..." from your signature? It's going to confuse editors you've blocked, since they can't leave you a message. Thanks! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
That's a fair point that I hadn't thought of. I'll have to try to decide whether it's with keeping in a form that won't confuse them or just getting rid of it. I'm leaning towards getting rid of it since most people tend to not do what it says anyway, but I'd still like it if I could find a way to salvage it. Thanks for pointing this out. Ks0stm(T)17:31, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I don't think so. Most people will leave you a talkback only if they feel like it anyway, so.... I just try to keep people from splitting discussions! :) Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:59, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
When you be sucessful for adminship, did you had former permissions such as reviewer, autoparttolled and rollbacker. I need to find out this problem becuase, I may nominate myself for adminship for someday. Please respond the answer as soon as possible. --Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 20:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
As it seems there's consensuses to bring the project under WikiProject Oklahoma I believe a name change is in order I plan to change it to Task-force OU. But I would like to have input from you on this matter So if you would please enter the discussion here it would be greatly appreciated.--Dcheagle21:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Rename
I forgot to post this earlier, but the reason the rename didn't go through is because it was never actually done. Actually doing the rename would create a renameuser log entry - regardless of whether the edit history has been reassigned. I think Nihonjoe just marked it as done but never actually pressed the necessary buttons to rename it. Maxim(talk)21:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Thought I should point something out. Some time back, I had someone hounding my talk page (User:Xerotic), who was later caught as a sockpuppet. One of their actions was to report me at AIV, just like this person did. Coincidence? Calabe1992 (talk) 18:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I wouldn't be the person to ask about that...I'm not the best at recognizing socks beyond a DUCK level. I'll ask someone if they think it's worth taking a look though. Nevermind, there appears to be no checkusers on IRC attm; file a WP:SPI if you think it's possible they're the same. `Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)18:13, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The reason that the padlock icon looked different to you was because it didn't have the |small=yes parameter on the template. You can use Twinkle to easily place a padlock on pages you protect. Hope this clears things up. —GFOLEYFOUR!— 20:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I genuinely have no idea. I haven't heard anything against it, but that doesn't say much seeing as I haven't really ever done anything whatsoever with DYK. If I were you I would ask one of the DYK regulars, but I've never heard of an objection on the ITN end. Some events that get rejected at ITN we recommend get taken to DYK, so I think ITN may be a "current events DYK" type thing. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)03:31, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The CDC updated their data, so the ITN nomination needs to be updated as well. The new amount of deaths potentially bumps it up to being the second worst food-borne illness in terms of deaths in the United States since the CDC first started recording that sort of data in the 70's. SilverserenC00:16, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, do you think you can revise your suggestion a little? It lacks "something" I just can't put my finger as to what. It feels like the essence of the news isn't there... Perhaps something like "The Italian Wikipedia goes on strike and hides all content in protest against the proposed Wiretapping Bill." but that also feels something is lacking... -- To Aru Shiroi Nekochi? 22:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
It was put on the main page already. Then it was seemingly pulled. Not sure if anything will do will mater. -- A Certain White Catchi? 02:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Ks0stm,
Per your request on IRC, I have answered your partner's and your questions for your Principles of English Composition class. You will find my responses below.
Question set #1
1.Describe yourself (as specific as you are willing to get).
I am a white, middle class, United States Citizen of the age of majority.
2.What do you like to do on Wikipedia?
My primary work has been reverting Vandalism, although I have written two articles on the English Wikipedia and one on the Simple English Wikipedia.
3.Why do you edit Wikipedia?
I edit Wikipedia because I want to share knowledge, and I enjoy writing articles. And, it's fun!
4.What makes Wikipedia special compared to other websites?
The community itself makes it unique from other websites. Nowhere else (except for other WMF projects) have I been able to find such a diverse group of people who want to work toward one goal, to make an encyclopedia. I find this union of purpose refreshing.
5.How did you get started as an editor?
I had been using Wikipedia as a research tool (at the dismay of my teachers) for several years. I finally registered an account, and got started around a year ago. Some of my first edits were a little off-par, but with the help of some other editors I began learning.
6.What about Wikipedia itself would you change if given the chance?
If I could change one thing about Wikipedia, I would change how difficult it is to integrate into the community. Unfortunetally, this isn't Wikipedia's fault, but the encyclopedia must comply with the laws of practically every nation. This makes policies like WP:BLP and WP:NLT neccessary. Since many new users are unaware of these policies, they get blocked and we potentially drive off a new editor.
7.What is your favorite thing about Wikipedia?
For me, my favorite thing about Wikipedia is the knowledge. It is amazing watching knowledge, previously spread across the internet, get collected into one unified place. And I get a thrill out of helping bring that about.
Question set #2
1.Describe yourself demographically (as specific as you are willing to get).
I am a white, middle class, United States Citizen of the age of majority.
2.What activities are you involved in on Wikipedia?
My primary work has been reverting Vandalism, although I have written two articles on the English Wikipedia and one on the Simple English Wikipedia.
3.What made you start editing Wikipedia, motivated you to continue editing, and what is the main reason you continue editing today?
I had been using Wikipedia as a research tool (at the dismay of my teachers) for several years. I finally registered an account, and got started around a year ago. Some of my first edits were a little off-par, but with the help of some other editors I began learning. I continue to edit because I want to share knowledge, and I enjoy writing articles.
4.What makes Wikipedia special compared to other websites?
The community itself makes it unique from other websites. Nowhere else (except for other WMF projects) have I been able to find such a diverse group of people who want to work toward one goal, to make an encyclopedia. I find this union of purpose refreshing.
5.What are some examples of things about Wikipedia and its community that contribute to it being a unique discourse community (things such as unique vocabulary, things about the people who participate, etc.)?
Wikipedia does have a unique vocabulary and culture. Only on Wikipedia is writing [[WP:BOTPOL]] acceptable. And better yet, everyone knows what you mean! It's great! Also, the culture of Wikipedia is one of openness. The more information is readily accessable, the better it is. This seems to be a unique culture in the world, but it is becoming a more and more accepted culture.
6.How do people outside of Wikipedia view Wikipedia?
People outside of Wikipedia view wikipedia as a "source of information," much like a Google search. However, they don't see it as an "encyclopedia," necessarily; due to the bad press that Wikipedia gets for being editable by anyone.
7.How do people view your participation with Wikipedia?
Some people view it as a waste of time, and say "you could be doing more important things." Some people say "go for it, but I don't have time."
What about Wikipedia itself would you change if given the chance?
If I could change one thing about Wikipedia, I would change how difficult it is to integrate into the community. Unfortunetally, this isn't Wikipedia's fault, but the encyclopedia must comply with the laws of practically every nation. This makes policies like WP:BLP and WP:NLT neccessary. Since many new users are unaware of these policies, they get blocked and we potentially drive off a new editor.
8.What is your favorite thing about the Wikipedia discourse community?
I find it very interesting how people are able to mass-communicate via Wikipedia. But my favorite thing about the Wikipedia discourse community is it's ability for many diverse editors to work together to create what is esentially a work of art. And the editors can do it without knowing each other. I personally think that's really cool!
No problem. I saw a report on AIV right before that but wasn't quite sure what was going on until I saw the protection request. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)21:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Re: Import
Hello, sorry for the delay in replying ... I've just had a fantastic holiday! For the Missouri River page, there are no complicating circumstances like overlapping edits or bizarre usernames, so you can simply import the August edit straight into the Missouri River page history. Graham8708:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for approving the semi-protection of Antenna TV. However, I noticed it was still unprotected. If you can protect the article like before (for two months) that would be great. Thanks again. Rivertown (talk) 00:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't really know what happened there...the one month thing that I posted at RFPP was meant for the section below. I have now, however, protected the Antenna TV article for 6 months and corrected RFPP, so it should all be good. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)00:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi there,
You deleted a page I made for Lucky Voice but I was wondering if you could explain a little more about why? You mentioned the need to add some context around the signficance of this brand which I'd be happy to do. It's pretty much the largest and most well-known karaoke brand in the UK, started by a well-known personality in the UK called Martha Lane Fox (her Wikipedia page is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Lane_Fox). Lucky Voice is actually mentioned on this page so it feels like it should have its own page.
If you could let me know what you think I'd be very grateful :)
I have restored the article into your userspace at User:Dan Pilkington/Lucky Voice. You may work on the article there, and when it is ready you may move it into article space. In order for the article to not risk being deleted, it should prove notability through verifiable, reliable sources. If you have any questions or would like suggestions while improving it (highly recommended at least right before you move it to article space), then either ask me here or ask for assistance in #wikipedia-en-helpconnect. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)17:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, that one had me a bit confused as to why it didn't have a rationale until I noticed some IP rolled by last April(!) and removed the fair use rationale. I have now reverted both the IP's removal and my own speedy nomination, so all should be good. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Happy birthday
Hoping that the little icon on your userpage isn't out of date :-) Enjoy your birthday! I hope that you get to relax without too much schoolwork — it will be good if yours is better than my most recent birthday, on which I worked for nine straight hours :-) Nyttend (talk) 06:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Two, I am happy you edit-protected the entry on Tamil new year/Puthandu for three days. That was an excellent decision on your part and I concur.
However, was it necessary to announce it in large font at the top of the article? The article was otherwise hardly disputed.
One anonymous IP number unilaterally introduces edits in bad grammar on November 6, Ramanan corrects it while another anonymous IP number starts reverting Ramanan's version back to the original version of last month. The edit warring was between two individuals only who came late into the scene. Did it warrant the edit-protection to be announced in large font as a banner at the top of the page? The content of the article had been in place pretty much unchanged since 2009 and was hardly disputed over the last few years.
It may have been more appropriate to retain the edit-protect as 'small' with the padlock alone as you had initially done at 22.40 UTC. This is just a thought on my part. The decision is yours to make and I would respect it either way. Regardless, do retain the edit-protect mode until November 11 as you had originally done.
Aloha! The reason I had thought it might be good to use the banner rather than the padlock was so that users who happened upon the article would have an easier time determining why it was fully protected. I have no objections to putting the padlock back instead, though, so I'll do that now. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)01:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, Steve. Have a great evening. All the best
I asked a checkuser and they said the range has too much potential collateral damage, so unfortunately this whack-a-mole type approach is all we can do. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Is it possible if I can become a checkuser? This sounds very interesting. I have some skill in computers as well. Maybe if this happens again, I can help investigate what is going.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 22:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Experienced user, yes however, not an administrator. Although, I am working to become one. As soon as I believe that the amount of edits, my knowledge of Wikipedia Policy, my trust and relationship with other users, and my experience working with Wikipedia is big enough, I will put myself up for nomination to become an administrator. I still have a long way to go though.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 23:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
You know, to be honest, I have no idea. This is something I've gotten conflicting opinions on...some people have told me it's fine at a user's request, while others say that it shouldn't be done in general. Until I know more about what is though about this practice I would rather not do it myself. If you want your talk page archive protected feel free to request it at RFPP though. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I did. I just want to know if it is possible to fully protect it and still allow me and a bot to edit it. I believe you should be able to protect user pages at a user's request. As long as it's the account holder that's requesting the protection. BTW, nothing is happening at WP:RFPP. Please always send me a TB when responding.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 22:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Ahh, fully protecting...no, in that case you can't do it and still have archiving bots edit it. Most bots (including all the archiving ones I know of) don't have the administrator bit needed to edit a fully protected page. You theoretically could get one fully protected after the archive is complete, but not while an archive is active. You and the bot could edit freely any semi-protected archive, however, so that's completely a possibility. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I wish that was possible, but it's not. Your protection options are full protection, where only administrators can edit it, or semi protection, where any autoconfirmed user can edit it. See WP:PROT, it has all the possible protection types and more specific information on them. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, done, but again, I'm not fully protecting anything in your userspace because then you can't edit it. Also, two things: 1) You seriously might want to move those into your userspace proper, rather than your user talk space...the userspace is where such things are usually kept, and 2) I have great apprehension about your using a transclusion in your signature...usually you should use substitutions and not transclusions. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)00:33, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Yea, I was having that dispute today with editors. The transclusion has been converted to a substitution. The signature will no longer automatically change on talk pages. At least the ones I sign from now on. I am torn whether I should nominate myself for Adminship or if I should contribute more to Wikipedia so I help to contribute more. Any suggestions?—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 00:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
I highly, highly advise you not run for adminship yet. It will most likely be be closed as WP:NOTNOW. Work for a while longer, get a few more months and a few more thousand edits under your belt, and most of all make sure you have someone else nominate you (self-nominations are occasionally frowned upon). You would do well to read up on WP:RFAADVICE and WP:GRFA and have a good working knowledge of the stuff at WP:PREP. All in all, you would do better to start preparing now with a view towards being nominated for adminship after about 7,000 edits or 10 months from now, whichever comes later. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)00:49, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok thanks. About the TB. If you go to my talk page and the signature at the top is any thing other than yellow or green, send me a TB. Otherwise, I'll monitor your page. Actually if it's yellow, and your comment demands a response and I don't respond, send me a TB as well. BTW, I was looking through successful nominations and came across yours. I had to laugh so hard when I saw Surturz's question. I had to laugh harder when he made an argument out of it when he opposed from becoming admin. I'm amazed at the fact he was able to make such a long argument on his talk page.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 01:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
Ha, well...while my RfA was successful, I wouldn't exactly take it as a good example of a successful one. I'm still of the opinion that it scraped by on the skin of its teeth. For about the entire last three days of it I was highly convinced it was not going to be successful. I think my RfA is a good example of how having a well liked and respected nominator can make a world of difference; I'm solidly of the opinion that had I not had a nominator in such good standing as Juliancolton I wouldn't have had a chance. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)01:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, that's mostly what Surturz's oppose was about...there is no easy way for it to happen. Mostly either a user has to request the removal of their own adminship or else the Arbitration Committee has to desysop the user, and ArbCom only does that when an administrator shows gross misconduct. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)01:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
I've got to go to class here in a moment and I've got a couple things to do before then, but I'll get to it as soon as I can. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)17:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Done; turns out I had time before going to class. I might note two things...one, are all these subpages really necessary and all needing semi-protection? I just feel like it's getting to where it's all so obscure that there's no reason IPs would want to edit them anyway. Second, when you make these requests, can you put them in a new section? Thanks, Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)17:56, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Sorry. Will do. I want to be on the safe side. I am aware that the more templates and pages my Userspace has, the more open it gets to vandalism. I am still developing my talk page when I get to it.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions)18:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Protection template on Bull
Hi Ks, you protected the Bull article and the protection template was removed soon after, the vandalism is resuming again. Can you re-protect the article? (Or if you want us to go through RfP again, I can, but I think the template was prematurely removed by a bot or something.) Montanabw(talk)21:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Preferably I would prefer see a bit more activity than one edit before protecting...if it gets more than a couple three vandalism over the next few days I'll be more than happy to protect it again, but it has to show persistent vandalism before I can justify protecting it again. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)22:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I do respect your views, but what we have here is slow but persistent long term kiddie vandalism. We did a big rewrite of the article in Aug-Sept 2010, and if you review the last year's edits virtually everything since then has been a vandal revert, usually an anon IP or new user account. This pattern is why most of the animal articles (cat, dog, pony, etc.) are under permanent semi-protection. It's an absolute pain in the butt to be constantly reverting this stuff. It isn't a 15 times a day problem like the current event or celebrity articles, it's just someone adding "p-words" or whatever to the article. (long, heavy sigh). So if you'd wish to reconsider, that's all I'd ask. Thanks!Montanabw(talk)22:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. It seems to be similar enough to the pattern that Tornado went through whenever it was unprotected, so I put a nice long nine month protection on it. I really don't feel comfortable doing any longer than that when the article has as little protection history as it does. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)23:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Just thought I'd let you know that, almost at the last minute, we changed the hook for that article. As discussed here, there are indeed many four-lane divided limited-access non-federal highways in the U.S. Therefore, the proposed hook was not that interesting or unusual. The reviewer who passed that one along, as he indicated, didn't know that.
We replaced it with another sourced fact from the article that we did find unusual (the uses of different types of pavement on such a short road). Don't worry, it will still run and you will still get credit. Take this as an easy lesson that finding an interesting DYK hook isn't always as easy as it looks. Daniel Case (talk) 05:58, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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Oops, my bad...I didn't know it was possible to edit conflict outside of the section you're editing like that so I didn't look up there for why I edit conflicted; I just assumed someone had made a minor typo correction to the section I was editing and put my changes back in. Sorry about that, and thanks for letting me know. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)23:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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Yeah, back home for the holidays and all. When I'm back home I tend to pay much less attention to my computer and thus usually don't get around to editing wiki. I'll probably be back editing like normal January 17th ish at the latest. Ks0stm(T•C•G•E)00:49, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Done i have re-created an {{idea}} template with documentation. Please check it out and discuss before deleting :-) benzband (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Done Signature fixed. Could you please semi-protect the requested pages if not done so already?—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 07:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
