User talk:Hokeman

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Burt

Glad I could help. If you need any help later, just let me know. AriGold 19:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Amarillo, Texas

No, it is my fault for using the word "Dude." I never thought it would consider an insult when I typed it. Thanks for the compliment for the Amarillo, Texas article. :-) The Amarillo article copied a lot of ideas from featured city articles such as Boston, Massachusetts and especially Ann Arbor, Michigan consider the population of that city is about the same as Amarillo's.

Oprah was mentioned in the Amarillo article until I spinned it off into a different article but now it seems some people wanted it merge it back. Oprah will be back in the main article but without the bullets/list sometime this week. --J. Nguyen 01:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Charles Whitman

I'm glad you like the changes, I'm going to add a Weapons List similar to the gear one I just put in as well. (I found the template for the sexy sidebar list on the Bath School disaster article, v. good article I read today because it's the featured one). There's a troll or two that pop up and complain about any changes to the Whitman article, but hopefully we've seen the last of them. As per your part, I know there exist quite a few "Before" photographs of Whitman as a normal man, honeymooning with his wife, etcetera. I'd love to see those incorporated into the article. Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 05:46, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

http://www.garylavergne.com/pictorial.htm check out the first two images :) http://www.historytvdocumentaries.com/IM13.jpg is also an image of Whitman as a child, and http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/psychology/crime_motivation/8a.jpg also seems to be a young photograph of him Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 06:13, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to help me improve Tiger shark and Bull shark

I've noticed your outstanding work on some species of sharks. I don't know whether you have noticed the tremendous disparity in quality in respect to articles on individual shark species. Some articles like Oceanic Whitetip Shark (which both of us have worked on) and Great White Shark are top-drawer - examples of first-class effort by the Wikicommunity.

The two above-referenced articles are in great need of improvement. Bull shark, in particular, is pathetic. --Hokeman 18:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes I know, I have seen your 'cry' for help, I agree and will try to help. But I'm a slow worker :-)~, I actually do not like the Great White Shark article either, I do not like its organization, and I am planning to do something about it at some time. I tried to enhance a few of the shark articles a while a go and did a first cut of User:Stefan/Project_sharks, the start was mostly to get the basics in the most 'importaint' articles. But I got distracted with a boot and have spent my time doing other things, if you would like to update my project sharks be my guest. It would be good to have a todo list somewhere on what needs to be done. Stefan 03:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Yes I saw your Tiger shark updates! Very good, I am very busy now and am off on vacation today will hopefully be back in wikiland in 1+ weeks and should have some time to help. Stefan 06:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Tom Petty additions

Thanks for your comments regarding the Tom Petty article! I think it still needs a bit of a clearup to make it a really nice article, though, so I may take some time out to organise it a bit. Phileas 02:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Vilma Ebsen

Apropos of my having added the categories to the article so quickly, I often monitor new page creations, mainly in order to nominate for speedy deletion such articles as are wholly unencyclopedic but also in order to try to save pages that might otherwise be considered for deletion (e.g., because they provide insufficient context or insufficient evidence of notability). In the case of the Ebsen article, you created a fine article (one is always so happy to find editors who compose articles prior to their creating them) and I thought I'd add the categories while I had the chance. Finally, thanks for the article itself; I learned a few things... Joe 05:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Confederation Bridge

I can't take credit for that shot -- I found it at Wikimedia Commons when I was cleaning up the Prince Edward Island category there. You should consider uploading your photography to Commons (the PEI coverage is pretty sparse) if you don't mind licensing it under a free license. Even if you have an image that is almost exactly the same, it is always good for editors to have options. Jkelly 00:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi there

Thank you for your kind words - it's good to know that one's work is appreciated :) Regarding categories I direct you to the CatTree - it gives a fairly good overview of categories and the option of searching for them. If you need help with anything please let me know - have a good day. Gardar Rurak 07:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Request for help showing me how to do something

I was trying to figure out how to correctly alphabetize some of the names on the Category: Accidents and incidents in general aviation page. By way of illustration Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, J.P. Richardson and Richie Valens are showing up under "C", "J" and "R" respectively rather than the first letter of their last names. Since you are a senior Wikipedian and major contributor to this page, I thought maybe you could show me. Thanks --Hokeman 17:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Hokeman. The way you do that is to put the name in the order you want it alphabetized after a pipe symbol (|) in the category. For example, in John Kerry's article, this appears: [[Category:1943 births|Kerry, John]]. That way, it is properly alphabetized under "K". Let me know if you have any other questions! —Cleared as filed. 01:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Jack Kerouac

Yeah, there are lots of problems in the article. In fact, most of the article is in the process of being rewritten. Thanks for keeping an eye out. I'll make a temporary change to the lead section to reconcile the problem you describe. —Viriditas | Talk 05:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I like the list work you've done. In the future, I may need to ask you a few questions regarding some lists I've made. —Viriditas | Talk 03:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Golf articles

I checked out your Jeff Sluman article like you suggested. I just tweaked the referencing a little. It is the convention in Wikipedia to call the notes section "References", and if there is a references section, it is best to show more information about each reference in that section than just its number. Incidentally, I added most of the tables of results in major championships that you will see in golfers' articles. If you are interested in doing any there is a blank proforma on my user page that you can copy and the easiest place to get the data is golfonline.com (see "golfstats", which is item 6 on the menu on the left of the site.) As it only has full PGA Championship results from 1958, I only do players who were born after about 1935, though I made an exception for Arnold Palmer. Hawkestone 16:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Burt Reynolds Birth Place

• I got your note, please read my response below. Lugnut215, 18 May 2006

Please stop changing the birthplace on the Burt Reynolds page. He was born in Waycross, Georgia not in Michigan. The first time you did it, I didn't say anything because years ago some tabloid – like the Weekly World News – did print a story years ago that he was born to alien parents in Lansing, Michigan or some idiotic thing like that. If you don't believe me, the web is a big place, check it out for yourself, but I'm here to tell you that Waycross, Georgia is accurate.--Hokeman 02:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

• I don't like vandalism eiter, but please read my comments and web page links in the discussion page of the Burt Reynolds article. Have you read his 1994 autobiography??? In which he says he was born in Lansing, Michigan. There is also as many sites that say Lansing, like imdb.com movie website and others. There is genealogical evidence as well that his family is from Michigan. And I have not found any evidence at all, that he even lived in the state of Georgia at any time in his life. Not sure how some of wikipedia works, but I hope this gets to you, Hokeman. THIS IS NOT VANDALISM. Lugnut215, 18 May 2006.

I don't understand why you still continue to change his birthplace from Lansing, Michigan to Waycross, Georgia. Are you from Georgia? I've sited my sources thoroughly. What are your sources? Other than websites, that have no sources themselves. I can find just as many that say Lansing too. I guess if people tell lies often enough, you hope others will believe them as truth. See Truthiness. Please Stop!!! Lugnut215 19:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• I wish you luck with getting a response to your e-mail to the burtreynolds.com web site. I tried the same, a little over two months ago, and never got a response. May I suggest that you go to your local library and see if they have a copy of his autobiography "My Life". If they don't have one, request one through an inter-library loan. This is what I did. And this should clear it up for ya. Lugnut215 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the kind words about my golf pages. The primary resource I have used for PGA/Nationwide related is just pgatour.com. It has a list of winners for each tournament, but is kind of low in the stats department. I've been searching for sites like this myself, so I'll let you know if I find any of interest. Thanks again, and happy editing! :D DakPowers (Talk) 21:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

That's actually an excellent idea. One thing though, you can wikify the old tournaments, as I did with Dow Finsterwald. The Tucson Open is now the Chrysler Classic of Tucson, the Los Angeles Open is now the Nissan Open, etc. You can search around the articles I did on the PGA tournaments and see if any of them are what you're looking for. Excellent job, though! DakPowers (Talk) 22:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

"International"

Good to see you are still creating golf articles, but please don't copy the PGA Tour's heading of "International". What is domestic and what is "international" depends on where you are and what nationality you are. The PGA Tour site is U.S. centric, but Wikipedia shouldn't be. Also it should be noted that the pgatour.com is not very reliable in this regard - Dudley Hart's international win took place in Georgia, USA. Osomec 15:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

J.C. Snead

If you are curious, what Charles did was to move the article J.C. Snead to J. C. Snead. When you move a page, a redirect is automatically created in place of the old article. And you're right: since it is likely that someone will mispell the name that way, that redirect is useful. - Liberatore(T) 16:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Andy Bean

The link I provided on my edit summary for that should explain that the record is broken, although I'm fairly sure there are even longer drives than that on record, just toggle the years to figure out. Burgwerworldz 02:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Invitation vs. Invitational

I've seen many others on PGATour.com:

• The idea for the Colonial National Invitation Golf Tournament was conceived in 1941 after the U.S. Open championship was held here. 1
• The birth of the Colonial event, however, was delayed five years due to World War II. In the meantime, members planned to emulate the very best, the Masters Tournament, which had begun in 1934. Colonial even adopted part of that tournament's original name, the "Invitation Tournament." 2
• 1978 Colonial National Invitation. (along with many more than Mr. Trevino, 3
• Nelson didn't have much of a chance to win the Colonial National Invitation (now the Bank of America Colonial), 4

And on other sites:

• 1958 Tommy Bolt 282 Colonial National Invitation Tournament 5

See: Google Hits.

Hope this all helps, great work on the golf stuff! Keep up the editing, we'll bring golf back up from being under-covered! :) -- DakPowers (Talk) 19:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Running Man Barnstar
		For all your work on sports-related articles (especially all the nicely formatted, sourced golf bios that you have added), I award you this Barnstar. Keep it up! -Big Smooth 23:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Oceanic whitetip shark

The reason I removed it from the top list is because I followed what the scientists at the ISAF said. Under normal circumstances the Oceanic whitetip would be a bit less dangerous that the tiger, bull and great white, but you brought up a good point about the WII disasters. I think we should give the Oceanic whitetip its own paragraph and I have started a topic on the Shark Attack discussion page to see what other think. Janderk 17:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Invite to Project sharks

Hi!

I have wanted to start a project with the purpose to improve our shark related articles for a long time, but never though we had enough people, now after all the nice collaboration on the Shark attack page I must take the chance of inviting you to try to start up a project sharks. I have had the preliminary writeup on my user page for a long time, please visit, update and edit as you see fit and I hope that you will consider joining. I do not have as much time for wikipedia as I would like to and the next 2-3 weeks will be almost no time, but I still try to get this project running, please join and please invite as many others as you know that might be interested. Thanks Stefan 14:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Thanks for reverting vandalism

You are most welcome! If we all do our part to add good content and watch out for vandals, we can keep Wikipedia in good order. —ERcheck (talk) @ 03:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Don Bies

Looks like he won the:

1988 Northville Long Island Classic
1988 GTE Kaanapali Classic
1989 The Tradition at Desert Mountain
1989 Murata Seniors Reunion
1989 Dupont Cup Japan vs US Senior Golf Match (not an official Champions Tour event)
1989 GTE Kaanapali Classic
1990 Chrysler Cup (not an official Champions Tour event)
1992 PaineWebber Invitational
1995 Raley's Senior Gold Rush

And it looks like now he only plays in the Legends of Golf. Hope this helps, PGATOUR.com is my main resource. Happy editing, and great work! :) – DakPowers (Talk) 23:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

• No problem, glad I could help. :) – DakPowers (Talk) 12:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

East Texas expansion

Thanks for sharing your ideas with me. I wouldn't create a template of famous people from East Texas, as unintigrated text is not viewed favorably by reviewers of good and featured articles. I think adding a paragraph about music in the Culture sectioon which mentions Janis Jopilin would be better. As for the mention of the Columbia tragedy a sentence in the history section would be nice. Again, thanks for your ideas. -JCarriker 13:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Oceanic whitetip shark for FA

Hi!

We are trying to get Oceanic whitetip shark to FA status, please review and update. Thanks! Stefan 03:09, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Shark project

Stefan, I have been trying to send you a response for days and days; however, the AOL IP's that I have been on have been steadily blocked. I am ready to jump into the shark project, and have started doing some research for a page on the Galapagos shark. I will also review Oceanic whitetip shark as you asked. I wholeheartedly agree that we shark editors should try to get at least one of our articles featured (and I wholeheartedly agree that Oceanic whitetip is the right one) - so it will serve as a "model of excellence" for other shark pages.--Hokeman 15:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Good! Me and Yomangani thinks that Oceanic whitetip is ready, and will nominate very soon, after that we will start working on Basking shark. As for you beeing blocked try logging in through this link next time, it is supposed to work. Stefan 23:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Oceanic FAC

As every little helps: If you have the Cousteau book The Shark: Splendid Savage of the Sea could you add the page number to the reference where he says they are the most dangerous shark. From the history it looks to me like you originally added that and I don't have the book here to look up the page. Cheers Yomangani 15:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha, I have a Spanish version. Fixed the footnotes -> notes, thanks. Yomangani 16:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see you message until just now - thanks for your kind words, but don't underestimate your own input. Only 300-odd more FACs to go! Yomangani^talk 10:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Defunct tournaments

This sounds like a great idea, and I'd love to contribute, but school and work are taking up all of my time at the moment. It seems that I only have about an hour to myself every day, leaving me yearning for freetime for editing. I'll help out all I can, though I can't promise I'll be around much. Great job; you're tireless, no doubt. :) See you soon, buddy. – DakPowers (Talk) 03:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Defunct PGA Tournaments

Looks good to me, what sources will you be using? Catchpole 17:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

When I've been creating golfer stubs I've taken info from either the PGA tour or European PGA tour websites, plus whatever a google search uncovers, but this will be a lot trickier for defunct tournaments. I know the European Tour publishes an annual hard-back review of the year so I guess the PGA Tour does something similar. Good luck for your bookstore search. Catchpole 21:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request

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Golf Bios

Well, thanks for the appreciation. I think overall you're doing a great job with the articles, I just had a problem with some of the "golfer's best season was" because although you're probably correct in terms of wins and money, but maybe the golfer feels different for some reason. It's just best to document the highlights without saying its the best. Keep up the good work. 69.209.105.235 04:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Golf

Hi Hokeman
I noticed you are interested in golf related articles. Would you like to join Wikiproject Golf? If so just put your name down on the project page. Hope to see you there!
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Philanthropist

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Philanthropist, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Philanthropist. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. — Sebastian (talk) 03:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Filming Shark attack

Hello, im the one that added the line: This attack was filmed. I don't know how to make a source, so instead i give u a link here. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5681918563582512974&q=shark+attack&hl=en

This might be scary, so be prepeared. I think it was on the news, but im not sure, anyway you can see for urself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.88.99.128 (talk) 13:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

WikiProject Golf

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WikiProject Golf

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Request for Comment on Burt Reynolds

A Request for Comment on Burt Reynolds' birthplace has been opened at Talk:Burt Reynolds#Request for Comment. -- Donald Albury 21:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Please comment on Burt on Burt's birthplace Talk:Burt Reynolds#Request for Comment. Rogue Gremlin 01:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Fishes

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WikiProject Golf Newsletter

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WikiProject Golf Newsletter

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AfD nomination of Justin Miller (guitarist)

Justin Miller (guitarist), an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Justin Miller (guitarist) satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Miller (guitarist) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Justin Miller (guitarist) during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. MrZaius^talk 20:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

mcauliffe

I appreciated some of the positive changes; however, i reverted because I felt some edits weren't w/in style manual and consistent. First, as I understand it, Wikipedia generally avoids over-wikilinking, esp. wikilinking every time a year is referenced. See the following:

"Wikipedia has articles on days of the year, years, decades, centuries and millennia. Link to one of these pages only if it is likely to deepen readers' understanding of a topic."

(from Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Autoformatting_and_linking)

Also, you capitalized presidential, which I am sure should not be capitalized (unless it was the formal name of the committee, which it wasn't). See the following, which is the closest I could come:

Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(capital_letters)#Titles

Presidential would not be capitalized in any style manual that I know, but I would welcome to be proven wrong.

From my knowledge, reelection is the preferred word, without the hyphen. If you know otherwise, pls. let me know. Thanks!

Finally, I felt adding that Carter's presidential campaign was unsuccessful was an unnecessary addition. We all know Carter didn't win reelection. If you're going to add that, then why don't you add the adjective for all the other elections mentioned in the bio, including the successful ones? And are you going around and adding the adjective on other articles? Comments welcome. Journalist1983 18:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Carter only had one reelection campaign, so there would be no confusion. This isn't an article about Jimmy Carter; so there is no reason to clarify whether it was successful or not. People who don't know that would not likely be reading McAuliffe bio in the first place, and besides if they want to know they can click the link to Carter. By adding it, it seems as if you're implying McAuliffe was a reason Carter lost, which I am sure you didn't mean to imply (let me know if you did mean to imply that). If you add that, then why not add the election result for that year, and other analysis? Let's leave the adjective out and be consistent, is my suggestion. Journalist1983 19:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You are a person of quality and integrity. I hope our paths cross again. Journalist1983 19:33, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I read your edits; tx again for self-correcting. In deference to your good fixes/inputs, i clarified 1980 and added link to that campaign article. Hope you agree edits are in the spirit of what you suggested. Journalist1983 22:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

And thanks for your inputs on the mcauliffe talk page. my apologies for quick rv'ing your initial edits; i should have made the corrections i noted and left the positive inputs you made. as you noted earlier, i kinda got caught up in a "Rush" job. Again, thanks for good work. Journalist1983 00:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

political realignment

not sure how deep your interest/expertise in politics runs, but there is an article re political realignment i thought was a bit tortuous. if this is up your alley, would welcome your comments sometime -- does the article merit an entry at all? If so, should it just be short and simple, explaining the concept and letting others argue about the specifics and merits? Does it just need some better citations? Or am I being too picky and the article is fine? I recently made some edits to clean up, but I still think it needs work. Comments welcome. Journalist1983 18:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC).

Sorry. Should have linked. Click on wikilink above. Journalist1983 23:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Good comments re political alignment. I think the article is a mess. Maybe too much work to clean up and arbitrate disagreements. Will let you know if I get that much ambition! Thanks for your good and appreciated comments. Journalist1983 19:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Former PGA Tour Events

I saw you added old events to the template. Do you know where to find info on who won those tournaments? I can not find it anywhere.

michfan2123 03:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh ok, that is what I have been doing also. I really wish there was a website somewhere with the information. Hopefully some books will have it. Oh yea and thanks :)

michfan2123 15:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Don Iverson

The 1972 Shreveport Open Classic was a "satellte" PGA Tour event - played opposite the Houston Open. It didn't count as an official win for Iverson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewapack (talk • contribs) 18:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Your article on Steve Knight

Thought you might be interested in reading this article - http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/youre-nobody-until-youre-on-wikipedia/2007/10/23/1192941055973.html It mentions an article you recently created! Crickettragic 04:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

DeWitt Weaver

The 2006 Champions Tour Media Guide uses both names for the tournament. I guess I would have gone with "U.S. Professional Match Play Championship" since that's what they use when listing his Tour wins. Don't know about when he turned pro. Tewapack 20:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Golf

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I thought that a way to further improve the golf articles on Wikipedia is for the whole project to work together towards a goal. An example of this could be a certain number of good articles in so many months, or to create the project's first ever featured article. If you are interested, come to the talk page and discuss it. And hopefully through this the project can continue to work towards several goals in the near future. Grover 10:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Invite to discuss goals for WP:Golf

You are invited. Go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf#Goals. michfan2123 15:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

User subpage

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Former events

Looks good, I am impressed that you have made so many of the pages, it is hard to find the information. Keep up the good work, michfan2123 (talk) 03:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Waterloo Open Golf Classic

What is it? michfan2123 (talk) 03:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool, a page should be made for it. michfan2123 (talk) 05:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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Robert Frost's home in Florida

When I saw your edit I thought to revert it but after further cogitation I decided to simplify the sentence. I can't find the street address of Pencil Pines but Muir clearly states that it was in Coconut Grove. Actually, at that time it was outside the legal boundary of the Grove, but the residents said they lived in the Grove. I'm guessing this was because they were served by the Coconut Grove post office. Anyway, the homes near Pencil Pines were actually in an unincorpoated part of the county that later was absorbed by the city of South Miami. So for simplicity's sake let's just say he lived in South Miami. A more famous example of this is Fairchild Tropical Garden. Its early publicity material said it too was located in Coconut Grove. Nowadays it says it is in Coral Gables.--GroveGuy (talk) 02:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Hokeman, welcome back to wiki-golf. Check out this page. Clicking on a year gets you a list of winners by age - great for the 1960s tournaments.Tewapack (talk) 21:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Philadelphia Inquirer Open

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Sorry

I was deleting redundant links, if there were new info interlinked with redundant info I'm not going to see that ! Look at my edits you can see what I was doing ! Mlpearc MESSAGE 04:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Reply requested. Mlpearc MESSAGE 04:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

? Mlpearc MESSAGE 04:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• Anybody only needs to make a ref. link "ONCE PER SUBJECT/ARTICLE" Correct ? Mlpearc MESSAGE 04:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• • copied from User talk:Mlpearc#Stop delinking golfer bios immediately

8 Stop delinking golfer bios immediately Stop this mindless, serial delinking project of yours. I have no objection to, for example, a legitimate cleanup effort such as delinking PGA Tour if it appears more than once, but you are going way, way overboard and delinking completely legitimate content.--Hokeman (talk) 9:01 pm, Today (UTC−7)

With all dew respect Sir ! Mlpearc MESSAGE

addon from Hokeman :::I'm going to put this on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf page and send it to other golf editors and ask their opinion. This notion of One link per subject per article is absolutely not a hard and fast rule. Many articles, including featured articles, have links in tables and/or infoboxes which also appear in the article.--Hokeman (talk) 04:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Please let me know the answer, But know one thing it's not only Golfers "I" think this applies to it's all Articles. "redundancies" ! Mlpearc MESSAGE 05:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Mlpearc

Message received and understood, My apologizes, won't happen again Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I want all involved to know that all and I mean ever single edit I made was in good faith. I misunderstood the overlinking. Mlpearc MESSAGE 16:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

No hard feelings, but very hartfelt THANK YOU ! Mlpearc MESSAGE 17:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering if you would Honor Me by bieing the first to sign my guessbook "HERE" Mlpearc MESSAGE 05:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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Tug McGraw quote

Actually, he did say something to that effect (the previous editor slightly misquoted him). Pretty easy to find and source, just googled "Tug McGraw astroturf". --rogerd (talk) 17:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Marty Lyons

What possessed you to mess with perfectly good, reliably sourced edits on this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.3.253 (talk) 22:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• First of all, you (an IP address) removed perfectly good sourced material on the subjects early years and college career and replaced it with utterly useless non-sense such as Rocky flagged down a truck in Demopolis to carry them to the hospital. I'm not the only long-time Wikipedian who has reverted your edits. If you want to establish some credibility, get a Username and put some relevant content your edits.--Hokeman (talk) 23:24, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

What other Wikipedia has reverted my edits? You were the only one. None of the sourced info that was in that article was removed, and none of what was added can be considered vandalism. Rather than getting into an edit war, we should take this to the talk page.

For example, your edits to Adrian Zmed were reverted by another Wikipedian. Upon furthur inspection, I agree it wasn't vandalism. I tagged it as such because your edits to Adrian Zmed and Marty Lyons contained a bot-generated references removed tag which is usually the signature of a vandal.--Hokeman (talk) 00:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

All I did to Adrian Zmed was remove movie and theatre work he'd done from the "Television" heading. No one switched it back, nor should they. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.3.253 (talk) 01:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Your November 7 edit to Adrian Zmed was reverted.--Hokeman (talk) 04:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I looked at the November 7 edit of Adrian Zmed. I removed the statement that he once played for the Chicago Cubs. I did a pretty thorough search on the internet, and found nothing that even hinted that there might be some truth to that statement, so I removed it again. You say you believe that anyone who thinks Wikipedia is an unreliable source should continue their quest to find a better website. I strive to make it more reliable.

Look here, I went back and restored a bunch of stuff that you put in the Marty Lyons article. After I got into it, I realized that a lot of what you did was pretty good work. What pissed me off was when I saw stuff in there like Mrs. Lyons had bones sticking through her armpit, that some of my references had been removed, and that the article that I had worked so hard to reference was completely revamped and a lot of the changes were the opposite of how the Manual of Style says they should be done. I hope you keep striving to make Wikipedia more reliable.--Hokeman (talk) 14:51, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think that was a back handed compliment. I'm not gonna bother looking into old versions of the article to see what was originally there, and what I removed. I don't believe that I removed anything that was sourced; I don't believe I removed any sources, and I believe everything I added was relevant. His wife got into a pretty nasty accident during the season, and his small child's actions were worth a paragraph to me. I also happen to think that the birth of his child, his father's death and the death of that other kid all happening within a week, and inspiring him to form the Marty Lyons foundation was worth mentioning. It's in his bio on the Marty Lyons foundation website. Also, as long as we are on the topic of Wikipedia style, you misused "See also." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.102.114 (talk) 22:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I'm not quite done restoring stuff. I was going to put in the honors and awards; as well as restore the 'inspiration for Marty Lyons foundation' material, but there were a couple more resources to check. Please explain how I misused "See also". ("Links included in the "See also" section may be useful for readers seeking to read as much about a topic as possible, including subjects only peripherally related to the one in question. Examples include Related persons.) I still don't understand your aversion to signing your posts and getting a user name--Hokeman (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

The misuse of the "See also" is something that I had pointed out to me a while ago on a similar topic. Personally, I don't use it at all anymore because anything that I would suggest the reader also see is linked within the article. What's the point? Your desire to restore this article yourself and fact check that which I and other editors have already checked also seems to hint of some ownership issues. I don't see why you need to remove what I've added, check it, and readd what you see fit to have in the article. I choose not to sign in and signing my posts because I enjoy SOME level of anonymity, though I'm sure anyone who really cared to figure it out knows exactly who I am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.102.114 (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

See what I'm saying about ownership issues? Did you bother even reading the edit before reverting it? The fact of the matter is that NOTHING relevant was removed, I moved the information about the Marty Lyons foundation to personal information, I removed a couple of facts that were mentioned twice, and removed dead links. Why do you want dead links in there? You need to quit with the ownership issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.102.114 (talk) 15:47, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

You keep moving the place of birth into the intro, but the MOS now says to put it in the main body. (Years ago, that was the way to do it.) Those two references you removed were not dead links. I'm leaving the one from the Jets official page in there because their new player bios are under construction, they just haven't gotten to Marty's yet. Lastly, have you looked at the sock-warnings on Johnny Spasm's talk page?....You are somewhat of an enigma because you seem to have a great deal of talent, but you also are simultaneously doing bad things to the encyclopedia. Why don't you study what I've done to Marty's article and make using your talents to build the encyclopedia your New Year's resolution.--Hokeman (talk) 17:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your appreciation of what I've done on Wikipedia. I assure you, I am no enigma; I've never done anything but ADD to an article, and would never even consider vandalizing or hurting a Wikipedia article in any way. I saw that Joe Klecko's article needed some fact verifying, and from there I've moved onto other members of the sack exchange. Gastineau's is terrible, which is why I've been saving it for last. Are you sure the dead link will be readded and readded at the same address? Because, if that is the case, then it should be readded. I'm not so sure, which is why I believe it is in everyone's best interest to add it when it is an up and running link. What's the point of having a dead link in the article? I also know what you were saying about the place of birth being in the main body. However, I thought it flowed better just leaving it with where he grew up in the main body, and sticking with the "old way" of doing things. Disagree? Fine, then CHANGE THAT. Don't just undo the entire article. Regardless of how you or anyone else feels about my reasoning on this particular topic, my work on the rest of the article deserves separate consideration, and you have thus far shown yourself unable to do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.102.114 (talk) 21:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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List of fatal bear attacks in North America

Thank you for creating this article - I've enjoyed working on it. There are some issues being addressed currently in the peer review. I wonder if you have any thoughts you could provide. Thanks. --CutOffTies (talk) 05:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not quite sure how

"The American People ..." is synonymous with "In my opinion." Do you mean "The American People ... say" or "The American People ... want" or "The American People ... agree" or something along those lines? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I had (obviously) not checked the history of the edits to my list. You real one, as opposed to the imaginary one I had you doing, is very welcome. The "American People" addition was done by a annon editor and has about 2.3 minutes of life left. thanks for you addition and for thinking well of my, or rather "our" concept. Carptrash (talk) 18:11, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Shmuley Boteach

Noticed you had previously contributed - added balance as you had requested would you mind reviewing and adding commentary as now there's balance - Shmuley Boteach 65.112.21.194 (talk) 13:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• I responded on your talk page --->here--Hokeman (talk) 15:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Can you please post what you posted on my talk page to Boteach's talk page incase some vandals come in once again and try and whitewash what I now spent time on as they did to you earlier ? Please so we can have these contributions stick as they should ? 65.112.21.194 (talk) 15:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

HELP HELP - BOTEACH... I believe the same users who previously sabotaged are now seeking to do so again. I dont know how to get a lock on the page and would like to request. Can you assist please please ? and report user, etc. Rabbi Boteach page. Jonathangluck (talk) 23:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Shmuley Boteach

Can you assist please in edits and reporting said user who vandalised edits ? And lets get a lock on page ? I dont know how to. Jonathangluck (talk) 23:15, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Boteach page has again had vandalism - Can you block said user or @least block the page and lock it ? Jonathangluck (talk) 16:46, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Need your assistance on Boteach if you want it to stick - Pls join the debate on talk and noticeboard... Jonathangluck (talk) 01:11, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - if you are around would appreciate your commenting on Shmuley Boteach page now - Support edits, other stuff ?? Jonathangluck (talk) 05:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Rabbi Pinto - Assistance

Notice you are very active - Would you mind reviewing Rabbi Pinto page ? A major feature story ran on Rabbi Pinto, the largest story ever written about him and the few editors who control the board didnt allow neutral entrees to be placed. Need assistance from curious non interested parties.

The article was syndicated and picked up by Globes a major Israeli paper, The Real Deal a major NYC real estate publication and Vos Iz Neas Religious news service but entire chunks of article werent included. Can we have new eyes please ?

Would suggest adding: "Considerable questions have risen regarding Pinto’s organizations finances. A report by a leading New York Jewish newspaper has revealed a “contrast between the rabbi’s lifestyle and his reputation for modest living, and questions about the rabbi’s image as a business guru when his own not-for-profit faces financial problems.” The Forward stated: “The business troubles at Mosdot Shuva Israel could be seen as ironic, given Rabbi Pinto’s reputation as an adviser to businessmen, and particularly to real estate brokers.” 65.112.21.194 (talk) 13:41, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm getting ready to take a lengthy Wikibreak. I have put it on my "To-Do" list and will research and comment on Rabbi Pinto's page ASAP.--Hokeman (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

See commentary on User talk:65.112.21.194--Hokeman (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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I take offense in you calling my nomination sentence for Amburst "poor". As a university student it is really hard to digest. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 00:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Tewapack's editing

I've been following it closely. He will reverse vandalism but almost never catches factual mistakes in articles. In fact, when people came along and put in wrong info, he's validated it by neatening up the wrong edits but not taking out the incorrect info. He's done this regularly. Check these ones out.[2] [3] I didn't know it is 2015 already. Do you?

His nitpicking and two faced edits of work I put into articles is gotten to be too much. He's not letting up on me and I'm not on him. When he screws up, I'm going to point it out. He'll change capitalization of a headline but not stuff like Dave Stockton making birdie at the 72nd hole of the 1976 PGA Championship and other things I can go on and on with.- William 18:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I know that person you linked to

In a edit[4] you did to Buddy Allin some time ago. That blogger has twice been credentialed[5] to cover LPGA tournaments before the ladies tour put a formal blogger policy in place. You don't know what a pain it was to get credentialed. A couple of helpful local golf writers had to lend a hand. I heard that blogger edits at wikipedia[6] too.

Too bad the LPGA doesn't come to Palm Beach County right now otherwise that blogger would get another opportunity to write about the tour live and on site.- William 12:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

1972 Not 1980

Was when Johnny Miller made his double eagle at the British Open

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pmg0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=xAkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=990,3276694&dq=johnny+miller+double+eagle+british+open&hl=en

That article was written in 1972.- William 20:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a Miller fan in many ways. Five years ago he collaborated with Guy Yocum on a book called 'I call the shots'. In it he wrote on page 224-

“I also won the San Francisco City Championship, the biggest local amateur tournament there was.”

Unfortunately history says otherwise.

http://www.sfcitychampionship.com/champions.html

   1956 Ken Venturi
   1957 Tal Smith
   1958 Bill McCool Angie Vote
   1959 Bob Sylvestri Dorothy Stamps
   1960 Bob Sylvestri Linda Collins
   1961 Verne Callison Jane Thomas
   1962 Tom Dixon Jan Ferraris
   1963 George Archer Jan Ferraris
   1964 Ken Towns Jan Ferraris
   1965 Walt Gilliam Jan Ferraris
   1966 Larry Anderson Marie Strand
   1967 Bob E. Smith Linda Collins Maurer  

Johnny Miller- Golf's George O'Leary(The Notre Dame coach who got caught padding his resume)

The book is also full of mistakes besides the lie.

1- Lee Janzen won the 1993 US Open not 1994 2- Sevriano Ballesteros won 6 not 3 US PGA Tour titles. 3- Ed Fiori did not beat Tiger Woods in a playoff at the 1996 Quad Cities tournament. Woods finished fourth. 4- Valderama has NOT hosted ’several’ Ryder Cups. It hosted the 1997 Ryder Cup only. 5- Tiger Woods is said to have shot 16 under for the 2000 US Open at Pebble Beach. Woods shot 12 under, its even stated he did so on the previous page! 6- Ernie Els bogeied the first hole of the 1994 US Open Playoff, not make a par. Miller compounds this mistake by saying Els who got a drop on that hole may have been helped by this ‘par’. 7- Annika Sorenstam was tied for the lead not one shot back when teeing off 18 at the 2003 US Open. 8- Craig Stadler’s disqualification for kneeling on a towel in a San Diego tournament happened in 1987 not 1983. 9- Ray Floyd lost the 1990 not 1989 Masters in a playoff to Nick Faldo. 10- Gary Player’s first major championship was the 1959 British Open not the 1959 Masters. 11- Tom Watson won five British Opens(75,77,80, 82, 83) not six 12- Jack Nicklaus started the final round of 1986 Masters 4 back, not 6 back.

13- Tom Watson did not win 2 AT&T championships at Pebble Beach. The tournament was the Bing Crosby Pro-am and not sponsored by AT&T when Watson won there in 1977 and 1978.

I loved the one about the Fiori-Woods playoff. Anyone slightly familar with Woods knows that Billy Mayfair is the only one ever to beat him in a playoff for a PGA Tour title.-William 21:01, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Dave Eichelberger

You created his article and wrote-

During his career, Eichelberger had several improbable holed shots in his wins. He had one at the 1980 Bay Hill Classic and one at the 1981 Tallahassee Open. The last one was a hole-in-one from 190 yards at the par 3, eight hole at the Emerald Coast Classic to help secure his sixth Champions Tour win.

I've looked and been unable to find any mention of improbable shots(or noteworthy ones) in his Bay Hill and Tallahassee wins. I'm going to edit the article. If you want to search google news archives and find something I may have missed, go ahead. Sometimes I miss stuff but right now I don't think so.

You can reply back here. I will check for your comments.William 00:55, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Back in May 2006 (when I was still a newbie), I didn't do a very good job of sourcing. Chances are the article where I got that information is long gone from the web. I have no problems with you removing unsourced material.--Hokeman (talk) 03:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Ken Still and the 1969 Ryder Cup

You edited into the article a confrontation that supposedly happened. I found the source for it too. The trouble is, it sounds like a tall tale to me. I base it on this article I found.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cdJRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=_zIMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5869,3602358&dq=dave+hill+ken+still+ryder+cup&hl=en

There was controversy in the match but if tempers flared like somebody wrote over 30 years later, wouldn't you think some of it would have been conveyed in an article written at the time.

Dave Hill, who had a temper(He filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the PGA Tour in 1971 after he was fined) and a sharp tongue, said "we didn't understand the rules. It's that simple."

Sometime ago I made an edit[7] to Lee Elder's article that took out material that came from an Elder interview that didn't match up with what he said and was reported at the time. A post I made to the Elder talk page gives my rational for what i dd

Please give me your input. I will check back here for a reply.- William 21:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your consultation. I remember synthesizing material from about 5 different articles before writing the paragraph about Still's role in the acrimonious 1969 Ryder Cup. I think the sources were from sites such as golfobserver.com, golf.com and the PGA Tour's official site. Trouble is, most of these sites revamp their content on a regular basis and don't archive the old articles. That was in August 2006, before I became enrolled in the concept of the importance of sourcing.

Curiously, Mama (Linda) Still made some changes to the article on the day before Christmas 2006. I bet Ken was sitting there at the computer with her. I always thought that they would have changed that particular paragraph also if something in there wasn't accurate. All the best,--Hokeman (talk) 21:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

There were sources for what you wrote, and I didn't mean to imply with my first post on this subject that there weren't. I just question the validity of them.

Here's the transcript of a 2001 Golf Channel interview of Gallacher where he discusses what happened.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-channel-team/golf-talk-live-bernard-gallacher-transcript-segment-3/

I went back and saw what Linda Still wrote. Should I edit it to fit the news accounts at the time or leave it?- William 22:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm all in favor of editing to fit the news accounts at the time.--Hokeman (talk) 23:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

A few things

The former PGA Tour events template is getting large. I'd just let what the guy did pass.

I did edit the articles for Dave Hill and Ken Still. They are living people and with stories not matching up, I went for neutral on the whole thing.

Golf article rubbish of the month- Take a look at this edit[8] on the 1955 US Open. Jack Fleck did not come back from nine shots. He was 3 back at the 54-hole mark, in fact he was tied with Hogan going into Saturday(Remember the Open used to end with 36 holes on Saturday back then) The reference[9] the nutty editor gave for the 9-shot deficit makes no mention of Fleck either.

What I got a sneaking suspicion happened was somebody mistook Jack Burke Jr. 8-shot(Not 9, Venturi lost by one. Burke shot 71, Venturi 80.) comeback at the 57 Masters for Fleck.- William 02:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Outstanding work with respect to Hill, Still & Fleck. I'm going to let what the guy did on the template pass since that was Tewapack's opinion as well. It was, however, a very convenient resource for the reader to click on an old tournament as many may not bother to open the hide box. Thanks--Hokeman (talk) 02:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hill, Still, and Fleck, sounds like a midwestern law firm to me.

My current project- Win and playoff boxes for major champions and double figure tournament winners whose careers were predominantly 1950 onward. I did Player, Geiberger, Souchak, January, Floyd, Archer, Boros(I got to do his playoff record yet), Rosburg, Doug Sanders, and Miller Barber just recently. I've also done work on Paul Harney, Marty Furgol, and Ted Kroll.

I hope to tackle the Hebert brothers, Finsterwald, Littler, Doug Ford, Venturi, Goalby, Wall, Jerry Barber and others soon. My golf encyclopedia only goes up to 1958. That means I am heavily reliant on Google news archive and getting the proper scores sometimes take looking at multiple articles. The more wins a player has 1957 and earlier means more work.

Also I'm putting in playoff boxes on more recent golfers. I pick and choose who I do. There is no plan to those boxes. So its Ronnie Black and Willie Wood, Justin Leonard and Billy Mayfair so far. Or little guys and middle of the packers but Tom Kite, Hale Irwin, Ben Crenshaw, Tom Watson, are all not done. I'll get to them.- William 03:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Long Island Open

I'd started working on an article for the Long Island Open back in May but never finished it. Now that you've created the article, I'll add what I found. Still missing several winners... Tewapack (talk) 03:13, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Outstanding work. I added one more winner (by extrapolation from the LIGA history page.)--Hokeman (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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If you go to Kissimmee, FL webpage you can see that Mark Durbin is no longer the City Manager and has been replaced by Mike Steigerwald. I also added Don Smallwood as the City Attorney because he is also an employee of the City Commission and a notable 20+ year member of the staff. Gdejesus1 (talk) 18:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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