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November 20

00:59, 20 November 2024 review of submission by NateGlass23

NateGlass23 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Mission Lane (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I'm told that my article submission was blank. But I did include the following text, can anyone help me figure out the issue?

Extended content

{{AFC submission|d|blank|u=NateGlass23|ns=118|decliner=Shadow311|declinets=20241120005548|ts=20241120005157}}  {{Short description|Financial technology company}} {{Draft topics|business-and-economics}} {{AfC topic|org}}  {{reflist}}

NateGlass23 (talk) 00:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NateGlass23 the text was commented out. I've fixed it for you. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! NateGlass23 (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NateGlass23, your draft lacks references to reliable sources that are independent of Mission Lane that devote significant coverage to Mission Lane. Your references are mostly based on company press releases. Cullen328 (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:37, 20 November 2024 review of submission by 41.210.146.83

41.210.146.83 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Spyda MC (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Article Submission 41.210.146.83 (talk) 07:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a question? The draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been rejected already, do not resubmit. And once your account is blocked, do not edit logged-out, either; the block is to you as a person, not just to your account(s). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:53, 20 November 2024 review of submission by Omar Azami

Omar Azami (talk · contribs)
- User:Omar Azami/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, How can I delete my current sandbox and start a new one please? Thank you Omar Azami (talk) 11:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Omar Azami, just edit it and replace all the content. qcne (talk) 12:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:03, 20 November 2024 review of submission by ASAJU12

ASAJU12 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Asaba Jumah Felix (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

i need someone that who can help me to edit my article ASAJU12 (talk) 13:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ASAJU12 For some reason you placed the url of the Wikipedia home page where the title of your draft should be....I fixed this. Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. This isn't the place to request co-editors. 331dot (talk) 13:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:36, 20 November 2024 review of submission by FFFzzz

FFFzzz (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Azuki (NFT) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

please approve it Azuki is more bigger than you think. you will regret and why BAYC is passed but you decline Azuki. It is unfair. FFFzzz (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FFFzzz do not threaten volunteer editors. This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. qcne (talk) 14:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WTF it is very unfair and it is bias and racisms. Why BAYC pass but Azuki not consider further. FFFzzz (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do not remove the decline notices from the draft. You have not shown that Azuki meets our Wikipedia:Notability criteria. If you feel at some point in the future that there are more sources that have come to light that do make it seem like the project meets the notability criteria, please message the rejecting review @CNMall41 and ask them to take another look.

On absolutely no account should you call volunteer editors racist. Further disruptive comments may lead to your account being blocked. qcne (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

okay then you tell me why BAYC meet the Wikipedia:Notability criteria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bored_Ape just tell what difference between these two and i don't think they meet the criteria so i can report? Centralize authority really need to be banned. hilarious FFFzzz (talk) 15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see other stuff exists; each draft or article is judged on its own merits, not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inappropriate and just not addressed yet by a volunteer. If you feel that a particular article does not meet notability guidelines, feel free to take action to address that. 331dot (talk) 15:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bored Ape yes this one thank you FFFzzz (talk) 15:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need the whole url when you link to another Wikipedia article. As I said, if you feel it does not meet guidelines, you are free to take action; edit it, propose its deletion, what have you. 331dot (talk) 15:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll note that the BAYC article has 76 sources and the Azuki draft has 8. More sources doesn't necessarily mean better, we would prefer quality over quantity, but looking at your draft I only see one source of any use (theblock.co). Whereas the BAYC article has several strong sources from reliable mainstream news websites. qcne (talk) 15:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FFFzzz: For the record, Web3 is a community-designated contentious topic in part due to behaviour like yours. Tamp down the adversarial stance, it doesn't help you. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what sourcing has to do with race and bias. Wikipedia is based on significant coverage in reliable sources. I looked at the additions you have made since the numerous declines and the changes you made came no where near showing notability so there was no sense in even looking at specifics of the content. Now that we are here, given that you are the second account and bludgeoning the process, there are clear signs that you may have a WP:COI regarding this topic. Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure if applicable. As far as the racist and bias comment, please address those concerns at WP:ANI if you feel strongly that is the case in this matter. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:43, 20 November 2024 review of submission by 188.85.205.222

188.85.205.222 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:SnavCraft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Tio espabila macho entiendo que te guste los hombres pero ese hombre es mucho mas que tu novio 188.85.205.222 (talk) 14:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't be vaguely homophobic. qcne (talk) 14:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:51, 20 November 2024 review of submission by Damilare Okunola

Damilare Okunola (talk · contribs)
- Damilare Okunola/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My article has been nominated for deletion and it saddens Me. I've seen the reasons for this nomination, however, I believe that the sources of the citations shared, all independent, are quite credible. Also, can I ask if the sources can be social media accounts? Will that suffice as well? Damilare Okunola (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Damilare Okunola, I nominated the sandbox for deletion as it was unambiguously an advertising and promotional in content. Wikipedia prohibits promotion, and you must write in a factually neutral way by summarising what reliable sources state about a topic. Sorry it has saddened you: writing a Wikipedia article as a new editor is very difficult and frustrating if you are not familiar with our policies and guidelines.

Social media very rarely suffices as a source: they are either primary or not reliable.

What we're looking for is significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable, secondary sources that discuss the person and provide commentary, analysis, debate, etc.

Let me know if you have any questions. qcne (talk) 14:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind and honest response. I'll keep working on the points you raised. I read also that I cannot use an article from Nigeria Tennis Live's website - what if I have a genuine article from where which was from a honest feedback about the organization? I can share examples for your perusal. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any intel about Nigeria Tennis Live's status as a source: I can't find a discussion on our Wikipedia:WikiProject_Nigeria/Nigerian_sources guide or at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. So it would depend on the context of the source and what you are trying to reference with it. Where did you read they cannot be used? qcne (talk) 15:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot remember, but if it can be used, then there are quite a number of sources from Nigeria Tennis Live that are credible and independent that can be added. I'll edit the article appropriately and share, but please, I'm still learning the ropes, kindly help Me with possible corrections after the editing, until I finally get it. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to make a new draft in your sandbox, but don't submit it for review (that way it won't be deleted if inappropriate) and then let me know when you're done by leaving a message on my User Talk page (feel free to take days or weeks) and I will have another look. qcne (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is very encouraging, thank you so much. I'll rework it and let you know. I appreciate your kind help. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Qcneso, I've just seen that my initial update was deleted, I didn't know it would come that quickly, but it's fine. I've rewritten the article but I'm yet to submit for review. Could you kindly take a quick look so that I can know what else to work on? Thank you. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any updates in your contribution history, make sure you have pressed Publish changes to "save" the text. That doesn't publish it for review. qcne (talk) 15:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've just done that now. Hopefully, I am not tagged for deletion before you get to see it. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I see it.

So, it is still written like an advert. Phrases like "a hub for tennis enthusiasts", "prominent voice", "founded with the aim", "The mission of" etc etc.

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: content should factually report on topics based off reliable sources. Whereas the content on the sandbox you've written might be appropriate as the About Us page on the Nigeria Tennis Live website, or an advert in a magazine.

You should find reliable independent sources (at least three) first that provide significant independent coverage; going beyond simply reporting routine business dealing or public relations statements. Analyses, commentary, debate, comparison by independent reliable journalists is the sort of thing we're looking for.

Once you've found those sources, paraphrase and summarise them in a neutral and encyclopaedic way. qcne (talk) 15:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you. I'll go again and share the update with you. I appreciate your time and help so far. Have a good one. Damilare Okunola (talk) 15:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Qcnecould you kindly take a quick look? Am I getting closer to the format? Just asking so that I can know if there's anything I'm doing better... Damilare Okunola (talk) 16:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lets go through your four sources on your sandbox.

Is a primary source, so not independent, so doesn't contribute to notability.
As above.
This is an okay source. It is based mostly on an interview with employees of Tennis Live but has just about enough independent analysis that it nudges it over into acceptable.
This links to the homepage of a website, do you have a link to a specific page?

The content is written better, but still promotional in tone. Wikipedia doesn't really care what Nigeria Tennis Live does, but how independent secondary sources have covered it. qcne (talk) 18:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot @QcneI'll go again in getting it out with a better tone and share with you again. Thank you! Damilare Okunola (talk) 11:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:39, 20 November 2024 review of submission by Joer.Priority.Sports

Joer.Priority.Sports (talk · contribs)
- User:Joer.Priority.Sports/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

How can i improve my article to get it published? Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 15:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Joer.Priority.Sports. I left you a message on your User Talk page yesterday. Please read and digest that, then reply there if you had further questions. qcne (talk) 15:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Qcne

I am an intern with no editing experience and I was told to post a biography about Ryan Richman, I read and digested the message of yours and ultimately I am still confused. Is there any way you would be able to help with the citations as I would like to fulfill my responsibilities to my boss. Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 15:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear, @Joer.Priority.Sports.

Firstly, have a read of Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. And perhaps show your boss that page too. You'll need to make a paid editing disclosure (this is mandatory), follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Biographies require in-line citations. The tutorial I linked on your talk page, Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1, is going to be the easiest and most user-friendly way to cite properly.

However, writing for Wikipedia is hard and not a very fair job to put on an intern. We always recommend new editors spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles before diving into the difficult task of creating a new article. It's like being asked to perform in a concert when you've never played a flute before.

My best advice is to read those links, practice editing on your sandbox, and come back if you had more specific questions. qcne (talk) 15:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As an intern I am not payed so the paid editing disclosure does not apply to me. Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 16:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joer.Priority.Sports, please read WP:PAID, which states "Interns are considered employees for this purpose. If they are directed or expected to edit Wikipedia as part of an internship, they must disclose." As an intern your "payment" is the work experience you are obtaining. Compensation doesn't have to be money or anything tangible. 331dot (talk) 16:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May I request an editor to create an article on Ryan Richman ? Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 16:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can request it but that area is backlogged to the point of uselessness. (and you will still need to make the paid editing disclosure, a Terms of Use requirement) My advice is that, as already suggested to you, you read WP:BOSS and have your boss read it too. I'm sorry you've been put in a difficult position by your boss, but our only interest is in working according to our policies. 331dot (talk) 16:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have shown my boss the article you sent me and I truly appreciate your help and expertise. Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 17:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After speaking with my boss I am wondering what the steps are for getting this article posted. We are a client services agency and boss is wondering how other G league coaches articles get posted and he also is wondering why it would be a conflict of interest.

Lets just say I make a paid editing disclosure and work the referencing kinks out of the equation. will my article still be posted ? Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 17:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a conflict of interest for you to edit about your company's clients. You have interests in your clients beyond merely contributing to this encyclopedia of human knowledge. To be frank, Wikipedia is unconcerned with your interests in your clients, our only interest is in writing an encyclopedia. Please read the conflict of interest policy for more information(it mentions a COI disclosure, the paid editing disclosure covers that in your case). Wikipedia articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic, who take note of coverage of a topic in independent reliable sources and choose on their own to write about it.

Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it's even harder with a conflict of interest. We usually recommend that new editors first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for how things work here and what is expected of article content. There is also a new user tutorial that is helpful.

The paid editing disclosure is mandatory for you, so you need to do that irrespective of the status of the draft. You need to remove anything sourced to YouTube(unless the videos are from reputable news outlets on their verified channel) as YouTube is not a reliable source. Your draft claims Mr. Richman has an "innovative" coaching style but has no source for that claim. The "personal life" section is similar, no sources for the claims made(like "commitment to family, community, and basketball"). 331dot (talk) 17:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's also worth noting, @Joer.Priority.Sports, that Wikipedia has many millions of articles and tens of thousands of them are poor quality and should be deleted. As we're a volunteer project, bad articles slip through the net. So don't compare new drafts to existing articles (unless rated WP:GOOD). qcne (talk) 18:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Qcne and @331dot Thank you both for the feedback and all of your assistance. Joer.Priority.Sports (talk) 19:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:00, 20 November 2024 review of submission by Writer Johnc

Writer Johnc (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Orion Land (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello! I just create a article and also reference with some news that is a secondary source and neutral , so i don't know what i need to do in this case, can you pls tell me more about my mistakes , thanks thanks! Writer Johnc (talk) 16:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Writer Johnc If you work for this company, that must be disclosed, see paid editing as well as conflict of interest. Your draft does little more than tell of the existence of the company; Wikipedia articles about companies must summarize what independent reliable sources with sigificant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 16:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:34, 20 November 2024 review of submission by DonnaJRick

DonnaJRick (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Richard T. Brady (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Could you please review an article (Draft:Richard T. Brady) I tried publishing through AFC? I found very strong, reliable, third party sources supporting this profile but this article got rejected. Please help and guide me further. DonnaJRick (talk) 18:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @DonnaJRick. You have resubmitted the draft (which was declined, not rejected: rejected here means it's the end of the road), and a reviewer will get to it at some time: please be patient.

In the meantime, it is worth examining each of your sources against the triple criteria in WP:42: only sources that meet all three parts are capable of contributing to establishin that Brady meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Several of your sources are published by the military, and so are not independent. That doesn't mean you can't use them in limited ways (see WP:PRIMARY) but it means that they do not contribute to establishing notability. ColinFine (talk) 22:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:37, 20 November 2024 review of submission by DtheH01

DtheH01 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Bill Myles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The reviewer on this page said I didn't have an documented sources which is untrue. I've since added even more sources. The reviewer also can't spell even spell the word "referenced". Can another reviewer please review this page? Bill Myles is very deserving of a Wikipedia page. DtheH01 (talk) 19:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DtheH01: You're completely mischaracterising what Safari Scribe said - which is you have unreferenced claims in the article. EVERYTHING that a reasonable person could possibly challenge MUST be sourced. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Couriano: Can you please take a minute to look at the submission and tell me what is not referenced? I don't believe either of you have actually read the submission. DtheH01 (talk) 20:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DtheH01: Looking at the revision that SafariScribe reviewed, I think it's clear that at the time your draft was mostly unreferenced. Good job improving it since then! jlwoodwa (talk) 01:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the next step in the approval process? DtheH01 (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DtheH01: now that you have resubmitted the draft for another review, the next step is that a reviewer will assess it at some point. As it says on top of the draft, "This may take 7 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,237 pending submissions waiting for review." -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]