User talk:Trafford09/Archive 2

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Atmosphere

Toot toot!  Chzz  ►  05:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

That's brilliant! Arigatou. --Trafford09 (talk) 08:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

You have new messages at Chzz's talk page. 11:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - seen & noted. (Actually I nearly always monitor sites where I post Qns., but thx anyway.) --Trafford09 (talk) 11:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Helpme re Ref error messages

Hiya folks. For some reason, I see 2 red error messages when I view Wikipedia:Alternative_text_for_images - but only from Mozilla Firefox latest v3.6.6. It's fine when I use Internet Explorer 8 though.

Another editor, when I asked him about this, reported that he doesn't see the error messages. Can you see them?

The error messages I see are:

• Cite error: <ref> tag with name "WCAG20" defined in <references> is not used in prior text. (under ref. 7 in References section).
• Cite error: <ref> tags exist for a group named "Note", but no corresponding <references group="Note"/> tag was found, which appears after the 2 external links.

My questions are:

• Q1: Can you see the error messages?
• Q2: Can you fix them? (I know not how.)
• Q3: Is this the best way to report such bugs?

Thanks, --Trafford09 (talk) 11:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't see them. You will get a larger cross-section of users to see your question if you post at the help desk, though there's nothing wrong with making your request in this manner. Also, a more targeted forum for this question might be WP:VPT. I'm going to leave up the request; maybe someone else will see the error. Question: what browser and what Wikpedia skin are you using?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:56, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm using latest Mozilla Firefox (v3.6.6), and haven't changed any skin, so I imagine I'm using the default. --Trafford09 (talk) 12:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Just tested IE8 - it's fine when I use Internet Explorer 8. (I've amended the text above).

I'm a bit puzzled as to why the error text doesn't appear in IE8 – it ought to as it is important information. Anyway, I've fixed the issues. See here. (Basically I removed the unused "WCAG20" reference, and added the "Note" references group.) AJCham 12:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

{{User:DoktorMandrake/Talkback|AJCham|Thanks re Refs errors|ts=18:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)}}

Talkback

{{User:IBen/TB}} —mono(how's my driving?) 02:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Test

Thanks for your help for a newbie such as myself! —Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianSwede (talk • contribs) 16:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

no probs - well done. Trafford09 (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback 4

Hello Trafford09, and thanks for the welcome. Ernestfax (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, very new to editing user talk pages

Hello Trafford09, yes, I'm very new to editing user talk pages. Sorry for getting it wrong before, and thanks for being gentle with me in advising on the best way to do it. And thank you for your kind words about my inline citations and summaries Ernestfax (talk) 09:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no need to apologise - it's a trivial matter. I see you got it fine this time - nice one - quick learner!

You even signed your edits correctly - bravo - most new editors take a while to learn that trick.

Happy editing :) Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 09:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

European Go Championship

Sorry about not getting back to you on your very welcome and gracious message at my talk page. I have no excuse other than forgetfullness—I saw the message and was going to respond the next day and then it fell out the other side of my head, and I didn't notice until just now when I found another message on my talk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh - no problem. I wasn't really expecting a reply, but thank you anyway :) Trafford09 (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I reply to every message I receive (well... within limits). And users who go out of their way to thank someone should be replied to. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

A nice thought - I may adopt it. Best, Trafford09 (talk) 23:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Coverdale and Page (album) edit

[You asked me]: When you make a change to an article, please provide an edit summary ... or explain why it doesn't apply in your case?

Sorry, I recently figured out how to access a discussion page (and still am not 100% I am doing it correctly) and how to add an edit summary. I will use them in the future. Is there any way I can retroactively add them? Bobglickman (talk) 00:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's own talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 01:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your continued support and help. It's appreciated. Cheers CanadianSwede

Fine - please read wp:ES and adhere to it. Trafford09 (talk) 18:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

- Will do from this point forward. Cheers CanadianSwede - I was wondering how to do that! Pretty soon I'll be a wiki pro!CanadianSwede (talk) 19:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Responses

1. Stub categories don't count toward whether an article is "categorized". They're meant as maintenance categories, which are supposed to be removed from the article once it's expanded beyond stub length, so they're only temporary — but an article has to be in one or more permanent content categories too. So the article is still considered uncategorized if the only category on it is Category:Buckinghamshire geography stubs, because it's still missing the permanent topic categories.
2. Actually I do archive my talk page; I just haven't gotten around to putting a link to the archive page on my active talk page. But there's no real rule about that; even if you just delete old posts instead of actively moving them to another archive page, they're still technically archived anyway since a person can always review the page's edit history if necessary.

Hope that helps a bit... Bearcat (talk) 16:44, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Okay Thanks, --Rind Baloch 08:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rind Baloch (talk • contribs)

Be Bold

Thanks for the update to my userpage. Cheers!! --RoslynSKP (talk) 04:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks but its not work

as per information I tryed many time for appearing my Signature red with typing four tides (Rind Baloch 07:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)) but its not work can you please assist in this regard : Rind Baloch 07:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rind Baloch (talk • contribs)

TPS I've tried to answer this one; User_talk:Rind_Baloch#Signature_problems  Chzz  ►  18:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks TPS :)

Welcoming

Thanks for the...er, for the thanks. :-) As to the signature, the only reason I have it the way I do is as a reference to the source of the name. "What do they say in Signa?" doesn't quite have the same ring to it, I'm afraid.

I'll give it some thought, see what I can think of that might fit the bill. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

re: edit summaries

sorry i forgot to writ edit summaries. i will do so in my following edit--Coekon (talk) 09:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Coekon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Trafford09 (talk) 10:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Continued flouting of wp:ES#Always provide an edit summary

I do of course respect Wikipedia's consensus, but I don't think that in my case it makes sense to always provide an edit summary. In the majority of cases I only disambiguate one link. As I do this about 200 times a day it seems a little useless for me to always provide an edit summary. Just let me know if you still think that it is necessary for me to do this.   TRBP  talk  11:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok I will do it this way.

Best wishes,   TRBP  talk  11:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it is ein bisschen besser :). Thanks for that.   TRBP  talk  12:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Glad you like it :) Aufwiederlesen, Trafford09 (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit summary

I always forgot to give an edit summary, i am trying hard to make this my habit. From now i will always give an edit summary. Well i am not a special person i am just like other wikipedians. Nabil rais2008 (talk) 08:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

(I thanked the user on their talk page.) Nabil rais2008 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Trafford09 (talk) 10:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok i will select "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" on the Editing tab of my user preferences. This is a good solution for this problem. Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Novelty

I've been on Wikipedia for years, and you are the only one who has every harassed me. I'd appreciate it if you stop now. --Flyguy33 (talk) 17:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 17:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Commons - how to search

Resolved

Hiya all. How could I find the File for a yellow lightbulb? You know, like in the wp:TOTD box, or here Wikipedia:Village_pump - the big yellow one above "Proposals"?

As well as giving me the direct answer, could you also please advise me how I might have found it myself? I've tried searching on WP and wp:Commons, to no avail. What search method would have worked?

Many thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 15:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

commons:Category:Icons --> commons:Category:Light bulb icons. There should be enough there to keep you going! Bencherlite^Talk 15:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

As for the TOTD box, click "edit" and you'll see that the content comes from {{Totd}}. Go to that page, click edit and you'll see File:Crystal Clear app ktip.png. Bencherlite^Talk 15:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. That's me sorted. Trafford09 (talk) 15:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Feedback - large increase in requests

The graph says it all, really; massive increase since we cleared the backlog and introduced a bit better system. As I've said before, it is a 'victim of its own success', I think. Currently, it is pretty backlogged.

Quite a few get missed, as you can see if you flick through the archives - but I don't know what we can do about that, really, other than hope more people give feedback.

The long-term solution would be to keep these editors; so many come to just create one article, and are never heard of again; if just a few of those stayed, and started giving feedback, then we'd have a more workable system.

I suggest discussion in this WT:FEED section. Cheers!

(I've send this message out to a small number of people that I think/hope will be interested; people who have given feedback, etc. if wrong, apologies, let me know.)

 Chzz  ►  00:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Happy 10/10/10

Double Ten Day is, really, unrelated—but we don't appear to have a cool pic for this one

I suppose I should've timed this message at 10:10:10 too, but frankly, I can't be arsed. You know how it is.

Did you know... that tenten in Japaense writing are a little wiggly thing, a bit like a quotation-mark, which makes e.g. "ka" (か) into "ga" (が) or "fu" (ふ) into "bu" (ぶ) ?

So, take time out to have a bit of a giggle.

All the best, and 10-10 'till we do it again.  Chzz  ►  08:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, mate. Ta for your message. I've followed the 6 links (curse you!) - & learnt a lot of course.

You a Smiths fan then? Their music never really grabbed me. Best, Trafford09 (talk) 22:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

slightly condescending?

Sorry if you were offended by my lack of edit summary, but since my edit consisted of inserting the word "anagram", I considered it to be not too far from a minor edit; I really don't see how anyone could have mistaken it for vandalism... AnonMoos (talk) 01:02, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, but I have 5,997 pages on my watchlist, and I find that edit summaries by others don't save me much work, except for certain kinds of bot edits and vandalism reverts. I add appropriate edit summaries for major edits and insertions and deletions of material which for one reason or another has been controversial among some in the past; but being obsessive about edit summaries for minor edits and uncontroversial workmanlike semi-minor edits (moving a few words around, rephrasing for clarity, inserting the word "anagram", etc.) would significantly distract my attention away from actually making the edits themselves. AnonMoos (talk) 17:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk page.

AnonMoos (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Trafford09 (talk) 07:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Reason

I added that because that was me under a IP address. My apologies if I am not supposed to do that, even if I was that IP user. If that's the case, it won't happen again. Reply back if you want. - Cartoon Boy (talk) 00:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 17:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Trafford09. You have new messages at Noq's talk page.
Message added 12:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Time to put an end to the tension and start fresh

Hello. I thought it was time that I explain to you why I, for the most part, don't include edit summaries. It is not because I am against consensus at all; rather, it is because I simply forget to, which I am not happy about. I am trying my hardest to includes summaries with every edit - Cartoon Boy (talk) 22:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.137.220.140 (talk)

Hello, CB. Good to talk. Always happy to start afresh. Nice to see you now supplying ESs. If you're clear about not wanting to forget them, you know you could always take advantage - as many of us do (myself included) - to avoid accidentally leaving edit summaries blank, of selecting "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" on the Editing tab of your user preferences.

The other thing we registered users have access to is the Help:Minor edit flag, which you might find sometimes useful. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 04:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Social Populism

Hiya,

Can you have a look at Social populism and the user who wrote it, Thehelpinghandforwiki (talk · contribs)? It was tagged as A10, but I removed that, and I hope they'll add sources. Thought you might be able to help them too, thought it might be within your 'field' as it were? Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:10, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Don't archive. Trafford09 (talk) 15:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Euro Go - pictures

Hi there.

Re. the European Go champs, I wrote to a couple of people to see if they could donate some pictures to us.

I explained how they could;

The dudes at eurogotv replied, saying they can email us some pics if we choose which ones we'd like; they'll mail a boilerplate release with specific pictures attached.

Sounds good...so we need to pick a few.

I will forward you a copy of the email right now...let me know which pics you think would be good, thanks!  Chzz  ►  20:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Great - that's very good of you. I'll check emails in the morning. Thanks very much, Chzz. Trafford09 (talk) 22:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm - checked emails but didn't find one from you. Were you still planning to send one?

PS: don't forget tonight's main event @ 8pm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8916415.stm - BBC R5L / Sky Sports 1. Trafford09 (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I forwarded the emails immediately after writing the above. I don't know why you didn't seem to get them.

Also I missed you on IRC, as I was away for a short time.

Anyway... the email didn't say much - just that, if we told him some photos that we need, he will forward permission by email. So - which pics would be good?  Chzz  ►  15:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see reply on my talk.  Chzz  ►  02:31, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, moved to User_talk:Chzz/Archive_25#Talkback - sorry; trying to stay 'tidy'. Please read it; I think best if you email them yourself; hopefully you have got copies of the prev emails.  Chzz  ►  21:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Please let me know if/when you do make contact; as they were kind enough to offer us pictures, I do want to follow up. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  15:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

{{user:Chzz/tb|Euro Go TV}}  Chzz  ►  16:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

+again  Chzz  ►  17:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't archive yet. Trafford09 (talk) 15:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

I noticed you left a message on my talk page after I edited the article on Go. I appreciate the welcome, and especially the information on not signing edit summaries. I've edited on Wikipedia before, but it's been awhile.

Anyway, thanks again for the welcome and information.

24.113.200.95 (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 09:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Bump. Trafford09 (talk) 13:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Danielwork

Hi Trafford. What actually happened here? Did the ANI you filed Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive636#User:Danielwork - ignoring consensus & others' talk on 9 September simply fizzle out? Something needs to be done. The only thing that can be done, regrettably, will be a block for a few days. I think rather ethan ANI, the best thing is to invite some admins to take an informal look at the situation.--Kudpung (talk) 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest. Maybe you'd like to state your views on User:Danielwork (talk)'s talk page directly? Meanwhile, I'll now resume warning him/her. There's no evidence they read their talk (maybe they can't read English?) but, anyway, my guess is they'll eventually be blocked. Trafford09 (talk) 22:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Footnote:

Resolved

Since my flagging this user up, events have taken their turn. The user has been indefinitely blocked. Nice to see the wheels of WP properly turning! Trafford09 (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Daniel Callegaro

Not looking good with that guy, contribution history shows 0 edits to talk namespaces other than page moves. Doubt that repeatedly warning him about edit summaries is going to help, might need a short catch-his-attention block to sort it out I'm starting to think. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Callegaro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - pie

I see what you mean. Thinking of instigating a community ban? Trafford09 (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I think with editors like this usually a short block should be enough to get their attention and get them to start using talk pages (let's start at talk pages before moving on to edit summaries, I think). The user's edits aren't overly positive or negative and appear pretty gnomish (although upon further inspection, there are a few questionable ones) so a ban might be a bit hasty. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 05:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Trafford09, I usually edit in the wikipedia in the portuguese language (my first language) and i have a small knowledge in the English language,but when i have a knowlegde in certain theme i put the information.

I have many problems about the english language like many latin language speakers and because this i don´t use the sumaries,it´s hard to write,but easy to speak english.

Daniel Callegaro (fala! status)02:30, 09 November 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk ('fala!') page. Trafford09 (talk) 08:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

My userpage/talkpage

Hopefully, 'water under the bridge'.

Please do not edit my userpage or my (or anyone else's) comments on my user talk page. Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 11:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Oh - you mean this edit? Well, your talk page has a section of messages intended to be read by other editors. The word anymore came up in red on my spell-checker, so I made it into any more, which would be fine in anybody's spell-checker. I thought this was also helping us & you. I also, at the end of your last sentence about "act with all due care", appended the traditional full stop. Finally, I inserted one line break, to make your signature lines tidier. But yes, you are indeed the owner of the section, even though of course it's designed for others' easy reading. Do pardon me for taking such liberties. Trafford09 (talk) 17:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC) The lack of a full stop and line break were deliberate, to include the signature as part of the sentence. Anymore is how I spell it, and is understandable to anyone with or without a spell-checker. If there is anything else on my userpages which you find hard to understand, then please do ask me about it, rather than changing it yourself. I also objected to your edit to my userpage, which seemed pointless - or pointy, depending on which way one looks at it. Again, you are welcome to ask me if there is anything on my userpage which you find hard to understand. DuncanHill (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Please be consistent. Your last sentence here had a full stop (as many of mine do) ... before your signature. Trafford09 (talk) 17:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC) If you can't see how rude and inconsiderate your actions were, there is little point continuing this conversation. DuncanHill (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Duncan, I can understand your viewpoint, and I enjoyed our subsequent very amicable discussion on your talk page. It wasn't the aim of my edits - & isn't my MO - to be rude or inconsiderate. I don't think we now hold any hard feelings over this - which is why I'm collapsing the discussion here - thanks & good luck with your project. Trafford09 (talk) 11:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

new pages

Hi Trafford. Are you planning on doing anything more with this? We're 154 similar new pages down the line. It's been suggested that the ANI should be started all over again, by listing all the diffs. Admittedly there have been no new pages for the last 12 days.--Kudpung (talk) 12:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, no edits from this user at all in the last 14 days...I don't think there is any admin action to be taken here.  Frank  |  talk  13:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

Thanks to both of you for following this up. Since my flagging this user up, events have taken their turn. The user has been indefinitely blocked. Nice to see the wheels of WP properly turning! Trafford09 (talk) 11:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Cyprus

Agree that Cyprus is a member of the European Union; there's no question about that. However, it is physically located 100% in Asia, as the Europe article will tell you. There are a lot of other articles that say the same thing (and none of them were edited by me). Cyprus' EU membership does not physically make it European, just as Israel's political/sporting ties have no impact on it's location. There have been several discussions on this in the past, with the conclusion that physiography is the only real criteria we can use. If Iceland (not a member of the EU) were to join the South-West Pacific Fa-La-La Union tomorrow, would we list it under Oceania? jasepl (talk) 12:51, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi jasepl - hmm - yes, maybe I was hasty. I'd always thought of Cyprus as being in Europe, with its location as a Mediterranean island of course.

I wasn't aware of previous discussions or conclusion, and would be interested to read them. Would you have a link?

Cyprus seems to be a bit of an anomaly. I notice that, whilst it's to be found in List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe, the note there, at List_of_European_countries#cite_note-Cyprus-1 posits that "Cyprus is in Asia but it has sociopolitical connections with Europe.".

I followed your link to where it says "Cyprus is sometimes considered [a] transcontinental country". An interesting case. Thank you for your background info.. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit summary

I selected "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" in my user preferences to solve this problem. Strafidlo (talk) 19:19, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Response

Thanks for the response. I will also respond as I get a chance. --Flyguy33 (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Take your time - no rush. Trafford09 (talk) 21:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Here you go ... In Response

Thanks. I'll read it shortly. Hope exams went well. Trafford09 (talk) 08:01, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for Welcome but I am Wiki Frustrated

Hi Trafford09. I am new and appreciate the welcome. Maybe I am of the minority but I have found Wikipedia to be rather frustrating. While I certainly have tried to adhere to the rules (of which there are many and they are rather confusing) and have been respectful when communicating with admins, I guess I fail to understand one simple facet of this format.

• Why is is okay for people to create and edit a page about a person or person's work, yet when that person edits their own content, their information is taken down?
• I understand the NPOV and the idea that it is not to be used solely for "advertising" purposes, but how is it that a person cannot edit their own page for clarity and factual content.
• How is it that a person working (in a non-paid position I might add), for a person with a page, is not allowed to edit the content? I'm sorry, but I cannot wrap my head around this concept.

I guess until I can, Wikipedia is not the place for me. I would welcome any info or light you may be able to shed on this concept. Thanks again for the welcome.Anna laffey (talk) 14:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Anna laffey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi Anna (hope it's ok to call you that). Glad you liked the welcome - it's a great shame that nobody welcomed you until today - we're slipping! A few things to say for now: Thanks for your contributions, and for your being bold with them. Sorry you've come up against adverse / misleading rules. I'm not an admin. - just an editor like you (although I know & understand most of the guidelines). I'll be glad to try & help you fully & explain in any way I can.

You've asked some very good questions - but I feel I should take a brief time to check your previous edits & discussions, so that I'm in the best position to answer them most appropriately.

For now, I've separated out your main questions.

I'll be back with proper answers - it may take me 24 hours, as I have some prior commitments, but answer them I certainly shall - we don't want to lose a keen editor. Thanks for raising the issues here, and watch this space!

Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 15:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I really thought that Wiki was a collabrative effort yet my experience has felt very adversarial. I have used it often for info but only months ago began editing (or trying to edit) an author/filmmaker's page for clarity and content. Apparently, because I "know" this person (actually working in a role of unpaid intern) I cannot edit the page and ultimately the page was deleted. I was really not trying to create a conflict, I was looking for help. I'm not sure I want to attempt to work on any other pages as this has been a less than positive experience. Again, thanks for your assistance, I look forward to your thoughts. Anna laffey (talk) 15:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I've drafted and left a holding response at User_talk:Anna_laffey#Conflict_of_interest.

Trafford09 (talk) 14:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I left you a message on my talk page. Not sure if that's where it was supposed to go... Thanks again. Anna laffey (talk) 16:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Thanks for telling me but normally I do add an edit summary. I will do it all the time thank you very much. Also wiki id2 is just a random name I don't have any other accounts thank you (Wiki id2(talk) 16:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC))

Re: this and that

Sorry -- that was a mess and I didn't exactly help. I'm finding my patience with self-promoters and other COI editors wearing increasingly thin, but I need to make the extra effort to keep the irritation in check. Inserting a pause before saving by using this fella more often might help. Cheers. -- Rrburke (talk) 14:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Very good of you to apologise - I've shown my appreciation on your talk page. Best wishes, Trafford09 (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit on Meat Loaf Page

Hi. I recently updated the page on Meat Loaf to correct a grammatical error on that page regarding an accident that occurred to him. The page was changed back to the incorrect grammar yesterday. Specifically, it states that he was hit with a "shot put". This is incorrect, since the object he was hit with was a "shot", the heavy metal ball used in the sport. "Put" is the act of throwing with a pushing motion, and is not a part of the name of the object with which he was hit.

Stating that he was hit on the head with a "shot put" is akin to saying he was hit on the head with a "baseball throw", which of course nobody would say. Rather, one would simply say that he was hit on the head with a baseball, or by a thrown baseball, if one wished to distinguish it from, say, a batted ball. I realize the source article cited also has this term wrong, and it is very commonly used incorrectly, but that does not mean it needs to be incorrect here as well. Perhaps you should change it to "struck on the head during a shot put event" if you do not care for my edit which was simply to correct the order of the words to "put shot".

Bassetlover (talk) 17:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Have made amends on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 21:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Portal boxes go in the 'See also' section

Blank section are not encouraging. Plus no indication on where it should be go if no "see also" section. Hence, i have to say "ignore all rules". --Aleenf1 12:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I think we're on a 'slippery slope' once people start choosing to ignore all rules.

There's nothing wrong with a == See also == with just a portal box in it.

The question was raised & answered here.

Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 18:03, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Christmas

Hi Trafford, if you want to use a card with Christmas rather than Xmas feel free to copy one of my cards to your userspace and modify it. PS when you use it you do need the double curly brackets. ϢereSpielChequers 14:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi WSC. Thanks for your note & hint re {{}}. Sorry if I was over-bold. I'm happy to use your card rather than my own - that way I give credit to the author.

One thing, though - I tried it with the {{}}, but it didn't seem to work here. Is that just because the recipient has an unusual talk page format? Either way, is there an easy method for me to fix the card's display?

Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 15:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi I think I've got that working now - a straight copy and paste of the message works, and here's one for you:

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec10/Traditional}} to your friends' talk pages.

That's great. Thank you, WSC, and season's greetings to your good self too. Trafford09 (talk) 01:47, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

{{talkback|Ravichandar84|Removals}}

(Adding time stamp, to aid the archiving.) Trafford09 (talk) 09:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Whisperback

Hello. You have a new message at Ponyo's talk page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Image fixed per your request, and replied on my talk again. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:57, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Still Life (disambiguation)

{{Talkback}}--ShelfSkewed Talk 16:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

DTTR

Just a note in passing from a talk page stalker; please remember that it's considered good practice to write a personal note when leaving comments or reminders to well-established users, rather than using templates. I noticed that you left a templated note about using edit summaries to User:Armbrust. Please remember that well-established users like Armbrust are generally aware of the majority of wikipedia guidelines, and direct discussion is preferrable to templates. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 02:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

On behalf of our little sourcing wikiproject WP:URBLPR, I really have to thank you for the sourcing information you provided at WikiProject Go on the subject of ways to help source articles on professional go players. Very well done, thanks! --j⚛e decker^talk 22:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, thanks, Joe. Good of you to thank me. I think a lot of us amateur Go-players are passionate about the game & its rich history. On behalf of Wikipedia:WikiProject Go, may I say we appreciate your thoughts, and of course, equally, wish you well with your sourcing wikiproject WP:URBLPR. Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 22:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Jiang search

Doing a custom search on the US association site (i.e for me with a Google toolbar typing in just site:www.usgo.org Mingjiu Jiang) turns up plenty of hits from the US Go Newsletter, so you ought to be able to work some of that into the article. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:54, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks - that'll be my plan, then. Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 15:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Marlborough

[With reference to the following that you posted on my talk page:]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Marlborough College. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Trafford09 (talk) 18:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I was a student at Marlborough during the 1950s, while Thomas Garnett was the Master (Headmaster). As I was glancing through the Wikipedia article about the college a few days ago, I noticed that his name had been mis-spelled in a link, with the result that an article about someone named Tommy Garrett was shown in error. So I simply fixed the spelling of the name, which made the link work properly. It didn't seem like a big enough deal to warrant a long explanation. DOwenWilliams (talk) 20:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 23:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Kante4

If you don't have anything constructive to say, please don't say anything at all. Your repeated templating of this editor demanding they use an edit summary is bordering on harassment. There's no policy that mandates the use of edit summaries. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:22, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Harry, thanks for discussing this matter - I appreciated our chat. I take comfort that you too believe edit summaries are important. It was good of you with hindsight to say you felt the rebuke on my talk page may have a bit sterner than needed.

For my part, I accept that to the general onlooker my earlier comments may appear to simply be "kicking a man when he's down" - something hard to defend. Despite my own frustration with the editor involved, I probably should have resisted the temptation to intervene like that, even though I'd tried on some occasions to use a non-template approach with him.

Ah well - Wikipedia goes on. Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 09:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

You have mail

{{Talkback}}

[I'm just signing this, belatedly & on behalf of the orig. poster, so that it'll get archived.] Trafford09 (talk) 11:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

"Policy agreed by consensus is..."

Hello there.

While I understand you mean well, personally I find you are outright confrontational in your approach to attempt to force other users to use edit summaries. The reason I linked to a rather old edit, was that it rather concerns me. It is not policy to provide an edit summary. I, too, shall quote the page; "It is good practice to fill in the Edit summary field". It is a help page. An information page. It details the tool and how to use it. There is no obligation to do so. It may not have been intentional, but some of your older edits could easily be read as suggesting otherwise.

Good practise; nothing more, nothing less. I don't believe for a second that a comment such as "Do you have any comment to make, in your defense?" is in any way justified. Please try to avoid driving off well meaning contributors who are doing nothing wrong. Edit summaries are preferred, not mandatory and you need to remember this. I apologize if this message aggravates you, but you appear to be unusally open to disussion (I wish more were like you in this regard!) and as I say, such edits - which you have not made in some time - are quite worrying to me. If you have already decided to avoid attempting others to make use of edit summaries, then I do of course apologize. A F K When Needed 11:40, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

I value free speech, and note your views - uninvited though they were.

I've asked you a question on your talk page, to which you've apologised & said you're unable/unwilling to answer. A suitable point at which to move on? Trafford09 (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Your Reply

Thanks for that! --MKY661 (talk) 11:13 pm, 29 December 2010, last Wednesday (5 days ago) (UTC+0)

You're welcome. Trafford09 (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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Greek mythology in popular culture

Hi. There's a discussion about inclusion criteria at Talk:Greek_mythology_in_popular_culture#Avoiding_deletion and I'm writing to you because last year you were posting on that talk page. Your participation would be welcome. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

References

A merge

Please see Talk:Axle track#Title of this page. Peter Horn User talk 23:37, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Peter - I've reposted there. Trafford09 (talk) 00:15, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar Award

I think you more than deserve this!! - Ecjmartin (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		This is awarded for your excellent suggestion as to how to resolve the problem posed by the extreme length of the Coronation article. Your superb idea, and the work you did to help bring it to fruition, have solved a longstanding dilemma. Thanks, and major kudos!! Ecjmartin (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Very kind of you. Thanks for the thought & encouragement. However I think the main plaudits should go to yourself for your past & continuing work on the articles. Trafford09 (talk) 12:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I posted this two days ago on my page, but on the chance that you might not have seen it, I'm posting it here, too:

You're welcome, but the idea for the division was yours--and an excellent idea it was--and thus, I believe you fully deserve the credit. Thanks again, and thanks for your words here! -- Ecjmartin (talk) 15:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Chinese characters

I would like to invite you to discuss the addition of section Appraisal and criticism to article Chinese character before engaging in multiple reverts. As it now stands, this section does not seem to contain anything more than a random factoid, and needs to either be expanded into an explanation of foreign concepts of Chinese characters, or deleted as irrelevant to the content of the article. Vanisaac (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've commented on the article's talk page. Trafford09 (talk) 01:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

And the cookies Demelzapoldark (talk) 22:52, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure (proper job!). Trafford09 (talk) 23:57, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

TOTD

Hiya. Did you alter the TOTD for 19 July, to suggest adding {{totd-tomorrow}} to one's user page?

Trouble is, it refers to "featured article", whereas I guess it should read "tip of the day".

Am I right? Trafford09 (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

No, it appears to have been wrong from the start, and according to the list at Wikipedia:Tip of the day, it appears to be intended to be about tommorrow's featured article. Thank you for pointing out the error. Ouch, it's been in error since 2006. Here's the repaired tip:

Preview Tomorrow's Featured Article

To monitor the upcoming featured article so that you can make last minute improvements to it, place {{Wikipedia:Today's featured article/{{tomorrow|long}}}} on your user page.

Read more: Wikipedia:Featured articles

Thank you for the heads up. I didn't get to it in time for it to do anyone any good this time around. But at least it will show up correctly next year.  :) The Transhumanist 00:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Sunderland

Well done, please see its Talk page, cheers DBaK (talk) 11:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Redmond

Dear Trafford09, get your facts right. Xianxian NIU IS (3p) and married to Michael Redmond (9p) ... her sister Lili NIU is 5p. 114.36.29.87 (talk) 01:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)shenzy (114.32.55.127)

Hi 114.32.55.127 (shenzy?). Thanks for alerting WP that some information may be wrong or missing. Edits are welcomed. The only reason I reverted your edit was that, whilst I believe you, factual edits need to be verifiable. In other words, they need a wp:reliable source. If you can supply a website with the information in it (pref. in English), then please re-add the info. whilst properly citing that website. (Or, leave me the website here & I'll add the cite in.) Meanwhile, I'll mark the 5p as suspect.

Thanks again for the info. & happy editing. Best wishes, --Trafford09 (talk) 07:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories

Thanks greatly -- I knew that I had to be missing something there! Heather (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Hope I've got it right! Trafford09 (talk) 05:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

HRW changes

Wish me luck. I was being bold, and basically making "HRW" into a redirect to Human Rights Watch,

as suggested some time ago by another editor, in HRW's Talk page.

My cunning master plan involved the following:

• Edit Human Rights Watch to say that HRW redirects there, bla bla.  Done.

• Change "HRW (disambiguation)" (initially a redirect to "HRW") to "HRW (temp)".  Done.
• Change its Talk page accordingly.

• Change "HRW" (initially a list of 3 different HRWs) to "HRW (disambiguation)".  Done.
• Change its Talk page accordingly.

• Change "HRW (temp)" to "HRW" and make it a redirect to Human Rights Watch.  Done.
• Change its Talk page accordingly.

• Check the integrity of the changes, incl. what links to HRW etc..  Done - well - sort of - too many to change, for me and now,

but I think there's no problem (let me know if you have advice or concerns - ta).

If my plan had a flaw (as I was treading new ground), please let me know, here - thanks. Trafford09 (talk) 22:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit summary

Thanks for the reminder. I usually edit as Mercurywoodrose, but even then i usually forget to include an edit summary (no excuse, i know how valuable they can be. You are the first person to call me on this. Hopefully, i will be more diligent in the future.76.232.10.199 (talk) 15:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, no harm done & cheers for the reply. BTW, don't forget that: "To avoid accidentally leaving edit summaries blank, you can select "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" on the Editing tab of your user preferences, if you have created an account.". (Not that that helps if you're not logged on of course!) Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 16:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Forehand error.

the reason i removed the says who? is because i did not understand it was another way of saying citation needed. sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.85.166.211 (talk) 19:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

(I thanked the user on their talk page, for getting back to me.) Trafford09 (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

will likely

Hi! I saw your edit at Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Grammar and Misc. I agree that "will likely" isn't a common usage in "English" English, at least the way I speak it, but isn't it common in American English? If it is valid in the US then I don't think it should be mentioned in the Grammar and Misc list. Take a look at WP:ENGVAR if you haven't met that guideline already. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi John. Thanks for your interest, answers, comment & help. Yes, I was roughly aware of such guidelines, and have taken a quick gander at them again. What I thought, though, was that if there's a form that's equally acceptable to both US+UK eyes & ears, then it would seem sensible & non-controversial to employ such a compromise. Am I wrong on that? Might I be being too bold? I've changed it a few times when I've come across it in articles, & never noticed any reversion or adverse reaction. I'm not seeking to deny its validity as a US phrase.

PS: I've not used AWB before myself. If an editor makes an edit such as the one above that I have (if such an edit were to stand), then would AWB somehow do the 3,081 changes 'automatically', without any further intervention from said editor? Thanks again, Trafford09 (talk) 21:50, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

You are right. I've added a link to WP:COMMONALITY at "will likely" in Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Grammar and Misc. I'm currently on the letter "T" in this list, so will probably reach "will likely" sometime in 2013.

AWB users have to make the edits one at a time, checking each one. I've spent hundreds of hours on this in the last couple of years, and have written about it here if you're interested. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Anchors

Whatever the case may be about anchors, I moved the anchor because the section title was not being formatted properly (just plain text under the "Shape" section and lacking an entry in the table of contents). I saw that all of the other section titles in the article had the anchor above, so I assumed that was just how it had to be for it to work. Primalmoon (talk) 11:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Quite rightly too. Trafford09 (talk) 20:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Linking

I have replied to your comments on my talk page. Volcanoguy 11:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

oh! Thank you very much! you're so nice! take for sure I'will ask you for help in case i need it! you can aks me too! I'll try to help you. Anyway thank you! :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aubree Owen (talk • contribs) 16:42, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

You're most welcome. Enjoy Wikipedia! Trafford09 (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Ditto

My thanks too. Hope the message wasn't prompted by seeing me having made a mistake :) Markpackuk (talk) 09:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, not at all - I just noticed you'd edited an article on my watchlist, & was pleased that you'd supplied an Edit Summary. Then I noticed your Talk page hadn't been started - strangely, as I noticed afterwards you've been on WP a while (in fact I should have used the Belated Welcome template - but then as you like chocolate maybe the cookies were ok).

Anyway, have fun on WP! Trafford09 (talk) 11:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hi!

Thanks for this nice message. I'm an active user of Polish wikipedia (nearly 6000 editions), so I know well the mechanisms of wiki :) Sometimes I just correct the mistakes I find in tennis articles on english version :)

Robpal (talk) 17:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Neat

Re. that 'fix' - no worries; thanks for fixing it in the first place - I appreciate it; I hadn't even noticed. Just, later, I thought a link would be better so it'll be OK when archived.

P.S. Seen the new kit? [1] Grr!  Chzz  ►  00:55, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Re pyjamas - lol - but SAF will sleep a little easier tonight after this. Trafford09 (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

T:WP Strat Games

It was deprecated because it was added to WP:VG as a task force. Where T:WP Strat Games was called, the |Strategy=Yes parameter was added to T:WPVG and then T:WP Strat Games was removed. Hence, deprecated. --Izno (talk) 23:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. But I'd have thought that VG and Strat.G are not natural subsets of each other. It seems odd, for instance, to treat Go (game) as a VG rather than a Strat.; when played over the board, it's not a VG of course. Trafford09 (talk) 23:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I think it was the case that the scope as it was was so overwhelmingly a subset of the video games that it was subsumed. As it is, board games such as Go have a WikiProject dedicated to them (WP:Board and table games or something like that), and I think any games which can't be found in the video games section of strategy probably end up in that wikiproject. Not that there can't be overlap, but...

Either way, I know there was consensus about it from the VG standpoint, but I wasn't able to find it. /shrug --Izno (talk) 04:40, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Tory Internet Troll

Why are you vandalizing the politics section of the entry for Evan Davis? Jeez, there are so many internet trolls around these days – don’t you have some proper work to get on with? Perhaps you should get a life, although it maybe the case that for an internet troll this is all the life there is. Sad. 11 November 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.106.34 (talk) 13:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Never been accused of these before! Have you got the wrong editor?

[Answered also on the IP's talk page.] Trafford09 (talk) 14:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

gr

Gr is grammar. Usually minor changes, although sometimes I forget to mark it as such  The Steve  10:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Happy New Year! :D --B20180 (talk) 09:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Thoughts

Thanks for your suggestions. I use the warning-templates sometimes when the same user do repeated vandalism, but I do cheat most of the times. I have been suggested Twinkle before, maybe I'll get to it sometime. --Skizzik^talk 23:43, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you're welcome. Hope you like wp:TW if and when you take a look at it. Best wishes, Trafford09 (talk) 00:08, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Belated "Onya, mate!"

Thank you for this :-) --Shirt58 (talk) 11:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome (& ta for the thx). Trafford09 (talk) 13:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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Go (game) on Facebook

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. Happy to fix broken links when I can. Yes, I do play Go (though not so much for a while).

Are you aware of any Go games written on the Facebook application stack? KellyCoinGuy (talk) 12:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Glad you liked the comments.

Yes, there are facebook Go games. For instance, please see here.

Personally, I don't use them much, as I prefer KGS's many advantages for proper games, and OGS for turn-based games. I'm about 4 kyu in Europe. What grade are you?

BTW, the dead links I referred to were the ones so-marked on your user page, you know.

Anyway, happy editing & Go-playing! Trafford09 (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

'Puddle iron' versus 'wrought' iron

Your insistence on using 'puddle iron' and your statement that wrought iron is a product of the Bessemer process are most odd. I am fairly familiar with the history of the iron and steel industry and cannot think of one instance in the many books I have read on the subject that uses the term 'puddle iron'. The puddling furnace was invented by Henry Cort in the 1780s and became the standard way of producing wrought iron, replacing the previous fining processes. I suggest you read the WikiPedia article on wrought iron <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrought_Iron#The_Aston_process>. Whatever process is used for the production of wrought iron, it is always called wrought iron. I think you may be confusing the properties of wrought iron with those of mild steel, which long ago replaced wrought iron but which is popularly, but incorrectly, still called wrought iron.

The reason that they used wrought iron produced by the puddling process for the Eiffel Tower was that the Bessemer process (1856 onwards), though capable of producing excellent iron from pig iron containing little or no phosphorous, was quickly shown to produce a product far too brittle when phosphoric iron ore was used, and it took many years before this problem was solved. Henry Bessemer in his autobiography gives a very striking and detailed account of these early disappointments. I suggest you read it. <http://www.history.rochester.edu/ehp-book/shb/hb11.htm> and subsequent chapters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tallorno (talk • contribs) 20:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry mate, but you've got the wrong person, haven't you? :) Trafford09 (talk) 23:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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New barnstar

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Thank you. I wish you a happy & prudent path for your Wikipedia learning and usage. Trafford09 (talk) 12:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks - it was nothing! Trafford09 (talk) 12:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

OTT

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Oh gurus: I'm pretty sure there's a template (?) to print:

• "[xyz] links to here."

Am I right &, if so, what's it called, please? Trafford09 (talk) 19:14, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Are you perhaps referring to what links here special pages? There is also {{what links here}}, which produces a link to the what links here pages. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks - another clever bot - one day I'll emulate your observational skills maybe!

Anyway, I've now corrected my error. Trafford09 (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

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Darn you :) Got me again. I've corrected it now. Trafford09 (talk) 11:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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I understand that the article is allowed to remain, as the format matches that of, say, loose cannon. Trafford09 (talk) 22:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Portals

Hi Trafford 09! Thanks for the message. I thought it was ok to link portals either in "See also" or in "External links"? I've certainly seen them placed in both places. Either is fine with me, anyway. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi @Espresso Addict:. Well, I've been guided by Wikipedia:Portal#How to add portal links to articles, which suggests: "These links go in the See also section.". Regards, Trafford09 (talk) 21:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I haven't read that in ages. MoS also seems to support "See also" as the usual location, now I find the correct subpage. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

But anyway, you certainly improved the articles & portals by linking them. Thanks again, Trafford09 (talk) 21:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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On 8 April 2013‎ you tagged the Phenocryst article for its lack of inline citations, a good move. The article has been rewritten with some inline cites, and I'd appreciate it if you could take a look and mark any spots that you feel would significantly benefit from a pinpoint citation using, ideally, Template:Citation needed. Thanks in advance. --Bejnar (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, great - that's much better. Kudos to you. BTW, I know nothing about rocks!  Done. Trafford09 (talk) 23:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the new help. I corrected "Charlse" to "Charles", and added several citations to the previously unreferenced section. I added a new image as well. Again, thanks. --Bejnar (talk) 16:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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SUL tool query

Bonjour, et je m'excuse d'ecrire en anglais, mais c'est bcp plus facile pour moi!

Hi. I was in en.wp, in an editor's wikipedia contributions. At the bottom, there was a link to SUL.

I clicked on it, thinking it might tell me what SUL meant. Sadly, its title said SUL in big letters, but gave no description of its meaning, nor link to the same. I've since, being WP-savvy, been to wp:SUL which explains it. But don't you think that the tool should have at least a description of SUL, at least expanding it from its 3 letters? Also, a link to wp:sul would be great.

Thanks for your time. Merci, Trafford09 (discuter) 27 novembre 2013 à 13:38 (CET)

Neanmoins, si vous voudriez repondre ici, en francais, ca m'est egale. Je le comprendrais bien. Trafford09 (discuter) 27 novembre 2013 à 13:43 (CET)

Ah - je vois que vous ne travaillez pas ici, il y a des semaines, selons vos Contributions. Trafford09 (discuter) 27 novembre 2013 à 23:05 (CET)

Hi. In fact I'm coming back from a period of inactivity. I'm now available to help you. Can you please provide me the page where the definition of SUL would be helpful ? We could at least have a link to wp:SUL. Thank you for your suggestion. Regards, -- Quentinv57 09:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Quentin. thanks for making contact. Sorry for my delay - I've been taking a Wikibreak. To clarify my point, please do the following. First, bring up a page of a user's contributions - say Special:Contributions/Trafford09. Go to the bottom of the page of contributions, and you will see a line of links: " Trafford09: Subpages User rights Edit count Edit summary search Articles created Global contributions / log SUL / accounts".

Then click on the letters 'SUL'. That brings up a page [2] entitled 'SUL'.

My suggestion is that that page would say, instead of just 'SUL', 'Single User Login (SUL)'. Also, the letters'(SUL)' could then be a link to Wikipedia:Unified_login. Hope all that makes sense? Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 11:45, 23 August 2014 (UTC)