User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 49
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DYK for Charity Bick
On 14 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charity Bick, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Charity Bick was the youngest ever recipient of the George Medal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charity Bick. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:07, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #101
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- Changed the {{property}} parser function and Lua’s mw.wikibase.entity.formatPropertyValues to only return the statements ranked as preferred or if none are available the ones ranked as normal (This will probably go live on April 25th.)
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hello! BCrit (talk) 11:51, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello from Slingpool
Thank you for my first message on my talk page. --Slingpool (talk) 14:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
West Midlands Police Museum
Hi Andy. Good to meet you and your fellow Wikipedians today. TimboG (talk) 14:40, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Odeon, Kingstanding
Hello! Your submission of Odeon, Kingstanding at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 20:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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Mildred White
Pigsonthewing: Thank you for your support in getting this article published. It is my intention to improve on it within the coming months especially with the sources issues. TimothyWF (talk) 17:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- @TimothyWF: My pleasure. I strongly recommend that you look at other articles of comparable length, about similar figures to get an idea of house style for tone, formatting and so on. I see you have already used the teahouse, so ask there, or here, if you need help. I'm sorry that some of our colleagues have been less then friendly when reviewing or advising on your drafts; your knowledgeable contributions are welcome and wanted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Authority control
I appreciate that adding {{Authority control|ORCID=0000-XXXX-YYYY-ZZZZ}} to my user page was probably an experiment, but please don't do this.
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- By longstanding convention users do not edit other users' user pages except to revert vandalism. There's even a Template:Userpage_warning to this effect. Editing others' user pages is frequently mentioned in a negative light in administrative actions.
If you want to promote this template, I suggest that you add a message to the users talk page with the suggested code avaliable for cut and paste but not active. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- Your first bullet point is poppycock, because your ORCID page, queryable via API or database dump, on which you published your name, and (via Linked in) your affilaitions, is both public and linked by you to your Wikipedia profile, on which you also publish your name, and some of the same affiliations (as I checked before making the edit). Were your false accusation of potential outing to hold water, your closing suggestion to place the code on a talk page would be equally harmful. The template to which your third refers says "refrain from vandalising the user pages of other users, or making changes which the user indicates are unhelpful" - neither of which applied when I made the edit. You are welcome to revert the edit, as I invited you to do in my edit summary. And no, it was not an experiment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:04, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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Articles for creation/Lead Sheet Association
Hi there
Thanks for the feedback. It certainly helps to get an insight on what is needed for this article.
I can see your point, but what I was trying to do, was to establish credibility for the LSA by demonstrating how many independent, national organisations are insisting that their guidelines are used for the practice of Leadworking etc.
Unfortunately, a lot of the sources mention their use in press release type articles, although I did try to use as many references from technical docs as poss, as [like you] I felt they would be far stronger and more credible.
The LSA is a non-profit organisation, who's aim is to help Leadworkers and nationally improve the standards of Leadworking, so pls be assured this isn't an exercise in publicity for them.
Given your experience, is there any direction you can point me towards, pls, with regards to finding the types of sources you'd like to see in the article?
Appreciate your help and thanks for taking the time to read through the article.
Cheers Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jumpingstone (talk • contribs) 16:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Jumpingstone: You could contact their press office; they often keep a log of media coverage. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Andy. Do you mean the LSA's press office? Their guys gave me what I used in the revision. I think they were finding it tough to get something that was a full independent review of them by an unrelated source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.58.58 (talk) 16:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Please stop
Please revert yourself and cease your out-of-process re-opening of denied BAG requests [1] [2] based on your admitted misreading of the events [3] (in edit summary).
There is a method for reviewing denied BRFAs noted at the top of the request [4] where it states "To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at WT:BRFA".
Not only are you subverting the community consensus-based process for bot approval, you have removed Josh Parris' comment in violation of WP:TPO.
Please note that I am considering filing a request for arbitration in regards to your aggressive 'metadata'-related editing, though I would prefer not to have to go this route. –xenotalk 15:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- See RfC. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- You keep saying that, it doesn't change the method for bot approvals. –xenotalk 15:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- You keep saying that; it doesn't change the primacy of consensus expressed in RfCs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- The Bot Approvals Group has been put in place by the community to approve or deny bots based on their reading of community consensus. As I have suggested to you, Josh Parris was in a position to review both the lightly-trafficked RFC from two years ago and the new comments from last year's BRFA and declined to approve the bot request. There are methods available for you to generate fresh consensus that may then convince Josh or another BAG member to approve a request similar to as 'Theo's Little Bot 25' (or even overturn Josh's decision), but trying to subvert the process as you are now (removing Josh's closing comment, re-opening the BRFA out-of-process, etc.) is not advisable. –xenotalk 15:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- BAG and its consensus doesn't outrank a community RfC closed by an uninvolved admin. I asked you for a policy stating otherwise; you provided none. We're now going round in circles. The subversion is all yours. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:43, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Xeno: The RfC was in the Bot Requests space at Wikipedia talk:Bot requests/Archive 2 #RFC: Deploying 'Start date' template in infoboxes. It was properly advertised and both you and Josh Parris had the opportunity to participate if you had objections, but you chose not to. The RfC was unanimously supported and closed as such by HJ Mitchell, an admin in good standing. There is no reading of that RfC that can come to any other conclusion and it is unacceptable that you or Josh Parris should try to cast a super-vote after the event and reverse an admin's clear decision. The community did not create BAG to act as a group of little dictators with powers to overturn community consensus, and you haven't been appointed to decide that there is such a thing as a "lightly-trafficked" RfC that may be ignored as you choose. You need to back off now and quit the threats - you're a long way from guiltless in this disgraceful episode. --RexxS (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Where was it advertised? (For greater certainty, I am not acting in my capacity as a BAG member in any of my edits related to this issue.) –xenotalk 16:17, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=491583515
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Infoboxes&diff=prev&oldid=491584037
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Microformats&diff=prev&oldid=491584154
- See Wikipedia:Publicising discussions #Places to publicise. HTH, --RexxS (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Also posted to Village Pump (Policy) and Village Pump (Miscellaneous). Not to mention that the RfC took place on WT:BOTREQ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- And Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. That's better than I thought. Bot BOTREQ wasn't really a good place to hold the RFC, it's only watched by bot operators and people wanting bot tasks, not stakeholders in infoboxes, etc. –xenotalk 17:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- No, Xeno, you are a member of BAG, and you don't get to take off that hat, especially when acting controversially to assume rights for that group, which it does not and should not have. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- I've removed myself from the member list. –xenotalk 17:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Where was it advertised? (For greater certainty, I am not acting in my capacity as a BAG member in any of my edits related to this issue.) –xenotalk 16:17, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- The Bot Approvals Group has been put in place by the community to approve or deny bots based on their reading of community consensus. As I have suggested to you, Josh Parris was in a position to review both the lightly-trafficked RFC from two years ago and the new comments from last year's BRFA and declined to approve the bot request. There are methods available for you to generate fresh consensus that may then convince Josh or another BAG member to approve a request similar to as 'Theo's Little Bot 25' (or even overturn Josh's decision), but trying to subvert the process as you are now (removing Josh's closing comment, re-opening the BRFA out-of-process, etc.) is not advisable. –xenotalk 15:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- You keep saying that; it doesn't change the primacy of consensus expressed in RfCs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- You keep saying that, it doesn't change the method for bot approvals. –xenotalk 15:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Odeon, Kingstanding
On 18 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Odeon, Kingstanding, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Odeon, Kingstanding has been described as "one of the best surviving examples of Odeon cinemas in Britain"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Odeon, Kingstanding. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Nice! - Why does the subtemplate to infobox building create so many separating dots? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pity it's without the picture. Do you mean the dot separator in {{Flatlist}}? I only see one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, at least it is with my picture, on her birthday ;) - On vacation, I look at it with the internet in a hotel lobby, which shows two separators after the first entry and another one after the second. I thought hlist (preferred by RexxS) might help but it did not. Strange keyboard also, has all kind of characters but no curly brackets ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- On holiday? Stop reading Wikipedia! Hope you have a relaxing time. What browser are you using? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- My feet needed a brake after two major hills ;) - meant to say internet explorer but did not. (apostroph also missing) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- ;-) Which version of ie? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- and another hill - how would I find the version? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Under "help" or "about". Or visit this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- helped: 8 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- That explains everything, Gerda. Tell the hotel they need to top up the water level in the steam boiler that's powering that computer. --RexxS (talk) 18:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- helped: 8 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Under "help" or "about". Or visit this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- and another hill - how would I find the version? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- ;-) Which version of ie? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- My feet needed a brake after two major hills ;) - meant to say internet explorer but did not. (apostroph also missing) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- On holiday? Stop reading Wikipedia! Hope you have a relaxing time. What browser are you using? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, at least it is with my picture, on her birthday ;) - On vacation, I look at it with the internet in a hotel lobby, which shows two separators after the first entry and another one after the second. I thought hlist (preferred by RexxS) might help but it did not. Strange keyboard also, has all kind of characters but no curly brackets ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. Pity it's without the picture. Do you mean the dot separator in {{Flatlist}}? I only see one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Very interesting article - I drive past this quite often, but never paid any attention to it before. Must stop for a closer look next time :-) Optimist on the run (talk) 11:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Optimist on the run: Thank you - it's a pity I didn't know you were local, as I ran an editathon at the West Midlands Police Museum in Saturday, and you would have been most welcome to attend. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Birmingham City Police Band
I've added some more stuff at Talk:Adrian Boult, which I hope you may find useful. I think that's pretty much all I'm going to be able to lay hands on, though alas it remains inconclusive. Regards. Tim riley (talk) 18:36, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
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I've asked about the accessibility of those blue ribbon tags at Wikipedia talk:ACCESS#Access question for a list; can you comment there about them? --PresN 18:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- Already done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Infobox cabinet templates
I reverted some of the edits that orphaned some of the various cabinet infobox templates. I think it would be better to discuss these at TfD, and I will let another admin close the discussions. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:07, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes; I saw this and this. How very tiresome. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #102
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- Cambridge revisited II documents how you can query Wikidata and put the results on a map.
- Cambridge revisited V shows that maps have popups with texts generated on Wikidata statements and labels.
- The architecture of the Wikimedia storage of the meta data of media files discusses that integration of Commons is a subset of what we can achieve when we consider the whole of media files.
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Article on Leonard Rosen (of the law firm Wachtell Lipton Rosen & Katz
Andy- As you can see I am having trouble getting my short article approved. I am Leonard Rosen's son. Leonard's law partners, Martin Lipton and Herbert Wachtell, already have Wiki articles. All I am trying to do is write a short article on Leonard.
The last comment I received was that I am using Wikipedia as a source. I was not trying to do that. I was trying to insert a link to Wikipedia when I reference Martin Lipton and Herbert Wachtell.
I have included several other independent citations in the article.
Can you help me? I don't understand the citation rules (obviously).
Thanks in advance, Arosen22 (talk) 20:06, 23 March 2014 (UTC) Adam Rosen
- @Arosen22: I've formatted the Wikipedia links for you, and the exiting references. But we need more, reliable sources, like those in the article on Martin Lipton; for example Who's Who. Can you add some? Also, do be aware of WP:COI, when writing about your Father. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:25, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Use of foreign languages
Andy (or any TPSs), I have seen you add a template to foreign language text in an article, but I struggle to remember which one it was. Could you point me in the direction of the template please? (Is this something as an aid to accessibility readers, btw?) Thanks - SchroCat (talk) 10:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Do you mean {{lang}}? Many examples of use if you look at BWV 172 in edit mode, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- That's the one: many thanks Gerda! - SchroCat (talk) 11:08, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- To quote a friend who's back: glad to be of service, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- That's the one: many thanks Gerda! - SchroCat (talk) 11:08, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Foldscope
On 26 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Foldscope, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Foldscope, a microscope made out of cardstock that costs under US$1, was designed to help detect 12 disease-causing organisms? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Foldscope. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Thanks for this contribution from me and the DYK projectVictuallers (talk) 07:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for the information.I'm looking forward to make more investigation before adding tags. Nice to see you as one of the most 300 active wikipedian. I'm curious to know the meaning of pigsonthewing. --J Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) talk 14:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Pigs on the Wing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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More infoboxes
Hi Andy, I created a list of 1,264 templates which have the 'Infobox' prefix but do not appear in the list of infoboxes. The vast majority of them are (thankfully) just misnamed sidebars (to be renamed) or hardcoded instances of another infobox (to be merged at TfD or renamed), but a few are actual infoboxes. I've already nominated some of them for deletion in today's TfD page.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:37, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Nice work; and useful. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: OK, I've had a look at that, now. There's a lot of junk in there. As it's in your user space, are you happy for me to move items to the main list, remove red links, etc? Some of the types will require community debate. See also the section above this one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Of course, you're welcome to make any changes you like.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Fresh batch: With suffix 'infobox'.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: Good stuff, again. Thanks for letting me know. BTW, have you seen Template talk:Infobox person/Mergers? It's old, but may still have some useful ideas. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Many of those mergers are likely to be contentious since they involve templates with very high transclusion counts ({{Infobox scientist}} has 18,000) and more in general, the standardisation process of infoboxes for biographical articles is already in advanced stage. Most of the obviously redundant infoboxes left are about sports, and they're also the largest group among newly created templates, so IMO we should focus on them.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: True, but it's not a binary choice, and they can be borne in mind for the future. Higher-use templates will cause proportionally higher numbers of issues for new users, wondering which to use. Most could be dealt with by making wrappers, or modules. BTW, you may also be interested in Template talk:Infobox river#Improving this template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
- Many of those mergers are likely to be contentious since they involve templates with very high transclusion counts ({{Infobox scientist}} has 18,000) and more in general, the standardisation process of infoboxes for biographical articles is already in advanced stage. Most of the obviously redundant infoboxes left are about sports, and they're also the largest group among newly created templates, so IMO we should focus on them.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: Good stuff, again. Thanks for letting me know. BTW, have you seen Template talk:Infobox person/Mergers? It's old, but may still have some useful ideas. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Fresh batch: With suffix 'infobox'.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Of course, you're welcome to make any changes you like.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Chris D.
Hi. You removed a number of films from the Chris D. infobox I created. You left this note: (ce (works are not listed as notable if there's no article)). However, half of the films you removed do in fact have a wikipedia article. As I was in the midst of working on the article when you made the roll backs and wasn't done editing, those wikilinks were not yet in place. For example, you removed: Border_Radio (a Criterion collection film incidentally) and No_Way_Out_(1987_film). As what I hope will be a suitable compromise, I will only re-add those films listed above that have their own wiki article, and leave the others, like Tweeked (1999) and Double Deception (2001), out. Of course, it goes without saying that a RS will be provided inline also (Ive already added about 10 to this article). Let me know if you have additional concerns or if this is unsatisfactory. I will be adding references not related to this on the article for a while so no need to rush. Thanks. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #103
- Discussions
- Wikiquote notability
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Summary: The summaries will now be sent out on Saturday as opposed to Friday.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: astronomical filter, National Archives specific records type ID, National Archives topical subject ID, National Archives geographic ID, National Archives organization ID, National Archives person ID, compressor type, Internet Broadway Database person ID, Internet Broadway Database show ID, Internet Broadway Database production ID, Internet Broadway Database venue ID, English Heritage list number, apparent magnitude
- Newest task forces: Heraldry task force
- Development
- Reduced page load time significantly once again. Page load time was cut to roughly 2/3. For now we’re happy with the resulting page load times. We’ll start concentrating on other areas of the user interface now.
- Fixed faulty selection handling when adding a property using the keyboard (bugzilla:62868)
- Worked on fixing issues with handling of spaces in quantities (bugzilla:62567)
- Fixed miscount of Wikidata changes on the client watchlist (bugzilla:45812)
- Wrote new browser tests for special pages using the Cucumber and Selenium frameworks
- Improved error formatting, localisation and handling. We will work on error message wording next to make them more understandable.
- Worked on the code which propagates page moves from the clients into Wikidata as a preparation for allowing page deletions to appear on Wikidata
- Made the Wikibase extension work with the new “Compact language links” Beta feature and a bit more independent from the UniversalLanguageSelector in general
- The student team working on the entity suggester has finished the first version of it. The code is being reviewed now and is hopefully ready for deployment soon. Once it is deployed it will show you what new properties you could add to an item.
- Monthly Tasks
- Fix a format or content violation for the original language (P364) property
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
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Wikipedia Article Review | Bruno Levy
Hey, I recently just published a new article and I was wondering if you've got time to take a quick look at it? Bruno Levy -- Just want to make sure there are no obvious errors or issues with it! Thanks & All the best, Alex AlexHollender (talk) 02:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- @AlexHollender: No major issues. I've made a few copy edits. Please note in particular the templates on the talk page, and how I've formatted the references. We need a few more refs, especially for his personal details. Nice work! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:40, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Congratulations
The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal | ||
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. As you have been advised, admin assistance is clearly needed to resolve this issue. Bjenks (talk) 02:16, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Your improper request has rightly been declined by an uninvolved admin. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- My request certainly appears to have been misguided. Its having been declined by Bbb23 is, however, more an outcome of my inexperience in such procedures than a vindication of your own treatment of the subject article section, which I view as both improper and irrational. Bjenks (talk) 14:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- No doubt your inexperience in matters regarding the removal of valid, cited content at play... Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:13, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- My request certainly appears to have been misguided. Its having been declined by Bbb23 is, however, more an outcome of my inexperience in such procedures than a vindication of your own treatment of the subject article section, which I view as both improper and irrational. Bjenks (talk) 14:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Disruptive editing at Sydney Opera House. Thank you. AussieLegend (✉) 15:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Favor... Can you explain on the ANI thread (briefly is ok) what the rationale is for the disputed tag on the Sydney Opera House article?
- That is the only not-resolved item from the complaint above.
- Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:42, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- I recently did so, again, on the article talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:11, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #104
- Discussions
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released!
- Wikidata development has been going on for two years!
- Wikiquote gets Phase I on Tuesdays (April 8th)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: JSTOR journal code, Openpolis ID, Philippine Standard Geographic Code ID
- Development
- Property of an existing claim can no longer be changed through API with wbeditentity (bugzilla:62425)
- UI for simple query SpecialPage (bugzilla:55593)
- minor fixes in the UI
- UI for claims on property pages
- worked on review of property suggester (review)
- still looking for a working student/intern
- Monthly Tasks
- Fix a format or content violation for the original language (P364) property
- Hack on one of these.
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The Signpost: 02 April 2014
- WikiProject report: Deutschland in English
- Special report: On the cusp of the Wikimedia Conference
- Featured content: April Fools
- Traffic report: Regressing to the mean
Bit confused about your reversion of my edit. I changed the categories to reflect the text as it already existed. If this is not supported by the sources, then why didn't you change the text. Also, as it is now, the categories indicate both that the date of birth is missing and that it's known. Seems odd. Folks at 137 (talk) 22:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- You removed Category:People from Powys. The first line of the first section after the lede reads: "Gunn grew up in Ystradgynlais, Powys, South Wales". The first line of Ystradgynlais reads "...a town on the River Tawe in south west Powys, Wales". You added Category:People from Brecknockshire. The word "Brecknockshire" does not appear in the article. Category:Date of birth missing or Category:Date of birth missing (living people) are used when the date (i.e. day and month) is missing; otherwise we use Category:Year of birth missing or Category:Year of birth missing (living people). This is explained in the category documentation. As it is, the current categories reflect the fact that we only know the year of birth. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:47, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Re date of birth; personally, "date" includes day, month and year, but not something I'd go to the wall about. Re location: in the article on Ystradgynlais it is stated (not in the first para, I admit) that "Ystradgynlais is one of the few areas within old Brecknockshire...". The article on Brecknockshire mentions Ystradgynlais as one of its towns. Although Brecknockshire is no longer a district or county authority, it remains as a description for part of what is a large county with many small communities. Within Powys county, a "... "Brecknockshire" area was formed under a decentralisation scheme, and a "shire committee" consisting of councillors elected for electoral divisions within the former Borough of Brecknock exercises functions delegated by Powys County Council". So, "Brecknockshire" is still definable. Also, Gunn was born while the Brecknockshire county or district still existed. I continue to argue that Category:People from Brecknockshire is appropriate for people born within the area of the former county or district, if only to be more definitive about the geographic location. Regards, Folks at 137 (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, my argument would be that both Brecknockshire and Powys categories should be used; not least as Gunn was there after 1974. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:47, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Re date of birth; personally, "date" includes day, month and year, but not something I'd go to the wall about. Re location: in the article on Ystradgynlais it is stated (not in the first para, I admit) that "Ystradgynlais is one of the few areas within old Brecknockshire...". The article on Brecknockshire mentions Ystradgynlais as one of its towns. Although Brecknockshire is no longer a district or county authority, it remains as a description for part of what is a large county with many small communities. Within Powys county, a "... "Brecknockshire" area was formed under a decentralisation scheme, and a "shire committee" consisting of councillors elected for electoral divisions within the former Borough of Brecknock exercises functions delegated by Powys County Council". So, "Brecknockshire" is still definable. Also, Gunn was born while the Brecknockshire county or district still existed. I continue to argue that Category:People from Brecknockshire is appropriate for people born within the area of the former county or district, if only to be more definitive about the geographic location. Regards, Folks at 137 (talk) 18:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
QPQ reminder for your DYK nomination
Hello Andy, just a friendly reminder that your DYK nomination of Steelhouse Lane police station still needs a QPQ review. I think that is the only thing missing for the reviewer to give it a thumbs-up. Thanks! Cmprince (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- I just put up California Chrome as a 5x expansion, posted it as of April 5, which is when I got serious about upgrading it. Low-hanging fruit if you want it. [5] (Montanabw(talk) 00:37, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: March 2014
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Can you assist with Smart_Onboard_Data_Interface_Module copyright compliance, discussed via link below?
Hi User:Pigsonthewing. You were just mentioned by User:Hchc2009 in our discussion here on copyright compliance for Smart_Onboard_Data_Interface_Module article as someone who could possibly help new editor SusanDJones alleviate COPYVIO concerns for the aforementioned article that she created (although the substantative discussion somehow is happening on the WikiProject_Military_history talkpage I link to). I just wanted to reach out to you and see if indeed you could take a moment to consider the situation - which seems innocuous and not to have resulted from any lack of good faith - and assist in navigating the process for SDJ to confirm the availability of both text and pic content added to article (text and pic she created, but possibly in the capacity of her work as a technical writer for the manufacturer of the module, which others have judged to be notable and merit inclusion in Wikipedia)? I myself am really not sure of the exact process since I've never had this issue, but I've tried to facilitate a bit on SDJ's behalf, in the interests of WikiProject_Military_history & Wikipedia in general. Anyway, that's all really! Just wondering if you could share your obvious experience to help us resolve this. Thanks! JDanek007Talk 20:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #105
- Discussions
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Announcing ToolScript. With ToolScript can be used to get the output of all Magnus' tools
- Feline mayors of the world or why Wikidata is awesome
- A Rijksmuseum representative indicated what kind of information she hopes Wikidata will deliver
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikiquote now gets its sitelinks via Wikidata. Welcome, Wikiquote! Access to the other data will follow.
- Do you want automatic sidebar links to other Wikimedia projects powered by Wikidata? Here you go: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2014-April/003690.html Thanks Tpt!
- Use Wikidata for internationalization on any website! How awesome is this? Very!
- Vote for some Wikidata talks for Wikimania
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: KulturNav-id, compression ratio, patent number, OmegaWiki Defined Meaning, phone number, International Standard Recording Code, Theatricalia play ID, Swiss Football Association Club Number, Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator level, ISFDB publisher ID, Swedish Football Association ID, Box Office Mojo film ID, Parsons code, ISFDB series ID, ISFDB publication ID, ISFDB author ID, Linguist list code, NARA online catalogue
- Development
- Still looking for an awesome intern. Do you know someone who'd fit?
- Bene* continued working hard on making “badges” (the “featured” and “good article” stars) in Wikidata a reality
- Finishing touches for Statements on properties
- Worked on better error messages when parsing failed
- Updated the translations to use much easier to manage JSON files for each language
- Made a list of hard to understand messages that should be reworded
- Implemented a usable interface for Special:SimpleQuery
- Closed a backdoor that let you change the property of a snak via the API, sorry guys
- Continuous refactoring and improving of the code base that defines what Wikidata and the Wikibase extensions are
- Kept Wikidata up to date with the typography update
- Started to redesign the Wikibase page on mediawiki.org
- Investigated if standard spam prevention features of MediaWiki work as they should on Wikidata (Result: mostly yes but some fixes/tweaks are needed.)
- Released version 1.0 of the Diff extension.
- Monthly Tasks
- Fix a format or content violation for the movement (P135) property
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
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Your opinion
Hi, do you think we can get Rezan Zoğurlu to DYK? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 09 April 2014
- News and notes: Round 2 of FDC funding open to public comments
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Law
- Special report: Community mourns passing of Adrianne Wadewitz
- Traffic report: Conquest of the Couch Potatoes
- Featured content: Snow heater and Ash sweep
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