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Question from Anastasiya Nikolov (09:23, 29 March 2023)

Helllo

how are you. --Anastasiya Nikolov (talk) 09:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anastasiya Nikolov: Welcome to Wikipedia. I've left you a message on your talk page. It has some links which you can read later. I would suggest that you start with Wikipedia:Adventure. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you Anastasiya Nikolov (talk) 07:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Ustypublik (08:36, 31 March 2023)

how do one earn from wikipedia --Ustypublik (talk) 08:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ustypublik: Welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is maintained by a community of volunteers, and as such no one is paid to edit it. Hopefully you are still willing to give it a go. I've left a list of links on your talk page. You should start with Wikipedia Adventure. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

Information icon Hello, I'm Rejoy2003. I noticed that you recently removed content from Talk:Farrel Furtado without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Rejoy2003(talk) 12:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@Rejoy2003: Thanks for undoing that. During my quick perusal, I didn't notice that she was born in Africa. Wikiproject politics is probably not needed, since the article is a part of Wikiproject Indian Politics, but that's up to you. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Barbusca (01:24, 14 April 2023)

Hello Do you validate edits or when are changes published or denied? --Barbusca (talk) 01:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

@Barbusca: Welcome to Wikipedia. Not every edit to every page is validated. But, many pages have watchers. This could be the person who started the article, or others who are just interested in the subject. I've left you a message with a short list of links. I'd alos suggest that you start The Wikipedia Adventure. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas, MPGuy2824

Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice!
As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to
recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia.
May this Holiday Season bring you and yours nothing but joy, health and prosperity.
Onel5969 TT me 20:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

And a happy Saturnalia to you too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:47, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:MoveToDraft - v2.5.4 - screenshot.png

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Concern regarding Draft:Responses to the COVID-19 pandemic in November 2022 2

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License tagging for File:NPP Backlog Drive - May 2023.png

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 Fixed -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft/Oral Traditions in Nigeria

Hello MPGuy2824,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Draft/Oral Traditions in Nigeria for deletion, because it's a redirect that seems implausible or is an unlikely search term.

If you don't want Draft/Oral Traditions in Nigeria to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

-MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from بوتان باسه وان (10:34, 18 April 2023)

Hello there, I want post article in Arabic about myself how shall I do that? BR, --بوتان باسه وان (talk) 10:34, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@بوتان باسه وان: Welcome to Wikipedia! Regarding the language, you'll probably want to create the article on the Arabic Wikipedia. I'm not familiar with the policies there, but on the English wikipedia, we have some policies about creating articles about yourself. Please search for the translation of "Conflict of Interest" on the Arabic Wikipedia to check out their policies. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:40, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Please fix page

Mohammad Usman (Deoband Politician) Rajueagle (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Rajueagle: There were quite a few things that needed fixing in the article. Some of them were done by other editors, before i got to it. You should look at the page history, to see the changes, so that you can make articles with lesser issues next time. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from WeeKeeEditor (08:44, 18 April 2023)

This page is showing html code instead of graph on the top. There has been some vandalism recently which was reverted, and now the text is same as previous. Page link below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_territories_of_India_by_crime_rate --WeeKeeEditor (talk) 08:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@WeeKeeEditor: This seems to be a general problem with all graphs, currently, see Asia#Demographics. I've alerted a few people. Hopefully it can be fixed soon. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
@WeeKeeEditor: See [1] for an explanation, if you are interested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks ! WeeKeeEditor (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

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Based upon how many people have signed up already, I think the drive will be running. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
@Zippybonzo: Awesome! It looks like I was overly cautious earlier. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Question from EarlFitzooth (21:24, 24 April 2023)

Hello!

I recently had an article rejected due to references and notability problems. Got any advice/would be willing to take a look at the references? I've already made some decent edits I think. --EarlFitzooth (talk) 21:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@EarlFitzooth: Welcome to Wikipedia. I guess you are talking about Jim Marggraff. Looks like the reviewer had a slight problem with the amount of links in the article (we call that refbombing). The bigger issue is that they found only one article (wired) that talks about the subject in-depth while being independent of the subject. A few suggestions:
  1. Find other articles like that Wired one. Once you do, create a section on the draft's talk page mentioning your best 3 references, which in your opinion, show that the subject meets WP:GNG.
  2. Remove references that don't/barely mention Jim. If these references were supporting a few sentences in the draft, then those should be removed as well.
  3. The Personal Life section isn't adding much to the draft. Since they barely mention Jim, it is very distracting to a reviewer. If the draft is accepted, this section can be re-added after condensing it into 2 or 3 sentences.
  4. The Volunteering section needs to be cut down drastically.
Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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Suppressredirect

Regarding Special:Redirect/logid/146290175 (and separate from the substantive reason I reverted the move), please be mindful of WP:PMRC. Thanks. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 05:18, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for undoing my move. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Moonstones

Please alert the visual arts board of the deletion nomination too, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done [2]. I'd guess active members have Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts/Article alerts and/or Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts on their watchlists. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:35, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, that usually gets more people reading the page and hopefully some can save the thing, the local artwork is kind of unique. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
It's not showing up on the alert page, is there a drag of time in-between posting and a change? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Yes, that page is usually updated once a day. Should update in 3-4 hours, looking at the history. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:57, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The moonstones are interesting. If you have any sources besides the flickr one, please add them to the article. Might help folks to find more. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Oh, thanks, I didn't know about the timing. As for the page, it may be a copyright issue anyway, as Wikipedia's page looks like a copy of the Lunar Society's page on the Moonstones (or unlikely but possible visa versa?). Randy Kryn (talk) 04:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, i tagged the article. Somebody should come to fix it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:13, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Transfrontier Africa NPC (16:14, 3 May 2023)

Hello there!

Thank you.

I started editing the page that somebody created about our organization and the projects we run, and see it was not published. I did not pay attention to the visual editing and used the code one and I think the grey info box dissapeared eventually and I do not now how to get it back.

Thank you --Transfrontier Africa NPC (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

@Global Thinker: Welcome to Wikipedia. I notice that you've had your username changed. I've re-added the infobox to the Black Mamba Anti-Poaching Unit article. Please make further changes to it carefully. I'll also be making a few copy-edits to the article. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Iswandy Ahmad

Hello MPGuy2824! I have rewritten a paragraph that was tagged with close paraphrasing. Do drop by and take another look if it needs additional work. Thanks for letting me know. DuckieWackie (talk) 05:40, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Pangalau: I don't think you fixed the correct text. Please take a look at the copyvio report. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Apologies, I have corrected the highlighted sentences. DuckieWackie (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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Archiving the sources

Hey, can you archive the Sources present on Surendra Prasad Singh Kushwaha. Though, these politicians are notable as per WP:NPOL, the Hindi sources becomes inaccessible after some time, due to broken link or other issues. Admantine123 (talk) 10:49, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

@Admantine123: It looks like you found IABot yourself. Either manually, or using the IABot are the only ways i know to add archive links. Hope that helps. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:36, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Here Comes The Grump (21:02, 12 May 2023)

Hello. Would it be okay to add some information about Larry before he became an Atlanta Braves player? --Here Comes The Grump (talk) 21:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

@Here Comes The Grump: Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm not sure which Larry you are talking about, so could you please provide a wikilink. In any case, it would be ok to add information provided two conditions are met:
  1. It is encyclopedic (birth place, yes. 6th grade marksheet, no)
  2. you have a good source for it (i.e. not some random person's blog or facebook post)
Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:29, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Magfanforever (01:43, 10 May 2023)

Hello what do you like about Wikipedia besides editing. --Magfanforever (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

@Magfanforever: Welcome to Wikipedia. Editing is nice, but sometimes i go deep into rabbit-holes about certain topics. What areas are you interested in? Maybe i can suggest a few wikiprojects that you can join.
I've left you a message on your talk page. Go through some of the links when you find the time. I'd suggest that you start WP:TWA to get an idea of how wiki editing works. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:35, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, yes probably i did't to fast and i didn't read the topics about how to follow the norms for a good article, thanks for you help and advise is good to know certain topics before precede with the writing. I apreciate you help thank you. Metacontentweb3 (talk) 11:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Metacontentweb3 (18:58, 14 May 2023)

Hello thank you --Metacontentweb3 (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

@Metacontentweb3: welcome to Wikipedia! It looks like you have some trouble starting off with wikipedia editing the right way. I'd recommend that you start WP:TWA, and read some of the links that AFC reviewers have left on your talk page. If you have any questions, you can ask me. Cheers. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, yes thank you i will read the topics before to procede. to the writing next time, i apreciate your help thanks a lot Metacontentweb3 (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft EQC D1 2023

Hey MPGuy2824 you recently moved the page Draft:2023 European Quidditch Cup Division 1 to draft rightfully so but ive since edited a lot and wanted to ask if you can give some feedback. Matthijs1808 (talk) 07:38, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Matthijs1808: I've made some small improvements to the draft. The major problem, currently, is that most of the sources are not independent of the organisation that set up the event. The heidelberg.de article is independent, but doesn't cover the subject in depth, since its just a couple of lines. Read WP:GNG: It is one of the fundamental ways that new articles are evaluated. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 Yeah the big problem is that the sport is still to small to get that noticed. there is at times publicity or press but often there also is not. this makes it a bit difficult. any advise what the best route is? Matthijs1808 (talk) 08:10, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
If you're sure you've done a thorough search for sources, then you might have to give up on this draft. Hopefully, in a couple of years the sport will get enough of a following for a newspaper (or three) to cover it. I've had to abandon drafts before for lack of sources, so i know the feeling that is felt at the waste of time.
P.S. see if you get anything usable when you search for the winning team. Maybe a newspaper in Antwerp covered their win. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Not giving up yet. Ima look around what i can find and try contact people if they know anything Matthijs1808 (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
P.S. @MPGuy2824 could also participating teams publishing things on their website be useful in this? Matthijs1808 (talk) 09:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Such sources might be useful if they contribute information that was not present in other refs, but they wouldn't contribute to the article's notability, since they aren't independent of the subject. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Ufa University of Science and Technology

MPGuy2824, please, review the page Draft:Ufa University of Science and Technology that you have moved to draft. Ruslan Sharipov (talk) 19:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Did a quick glance, it looks ok. I'd prefer if it goes through WP:AFC. To help the AFC reviewer, you can choose the best WP:THREE references and mention them in a new section of the draft's talk page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Check Nilkamal Singh

Since you are a new page reviewer. I don't know why my article Nilkamal Singh was nominated for delition.[3] It has a lot of reliable sources from important news sources.Articles about less notable Bhojpuri singers like Priyanka Singh is there. This guy has sung hundreds of song,yet, a newcomer joining Wikipedia 28 days ago nominated Nilkamal Singh for delition, despite having 15+ sources and more available on internet, which will be added by me after expansion in future. Admantine123 (talk) 07:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@Admantine123: A few points:
  1. Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS
  2. It doesn't matter how old a wiki user's account is. What matters is whether their argument (for deletion) makes sense.
  3. Quality is more important than quantity when we are talk about sources for a wikipedia article. The sources have to be independent, reliable, and talk about the subject in-depth (e.g. the Times of India references don't meet the in-depth criteria). Since, this article has many references, you should choose the best WP:THREE and add them as a list to your comment on the AfD.
  4. You can continue expanding the article while the AfD is going on, but i'd suggest that you only add any sources that talk about the guy for more than 2-3 sentences. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:28, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding an edit conflict on the article "Rattan Lal Kataria"

Hey,

Two reverts have been made by you on this article and I'd like to address this issue with you personally. The article is a stub per Wikipedia:Stub, and the consensus among most Wikipedians is that a stub article is an article with less than 250 words. However, there is no set amount of words, characters or such made publicly official. Please note that the article doesn't meet the normal encyclopedic requirements to be a non-stub article, and refrain from making further reverts in the edit without any reasoning.

Cheers,

TwistedAxe [contact] 00:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

@Twistedaxe: We don't call that an edit conflict, but i get your point. In this case, I didn't realise that someone had reverted my removal of the stub tag, which is why i did it again without improvement to the article. Don't worry, I'll leave the stub tag alone for this article. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:02, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Abby8266 (06:41, 30 May 2023)

Hello -- I have joined Wikipedia to create a page for an outstanding work of art that has attracted significant critical attention, which I think justifies its inclusion in Wikipedia. I will be gathering the supporting documentation over the next few weeks, and hope to start creating the page once this process is complete. --Abby8266 (talk) 06:41, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

@Abby8266: Welcome to Wikipedia. That's a good short term goal you have. My suggestion is that you start with a draft of the article that you intend to create, in your sandbox. Then you can add references as and when you find them, and slowly build up the article. If you reply back on this thread once you've started the draft, I'd be able to provide feedback. Also, you could look at other similar articles for inspiration. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Hey thanks! I'll do as you suggest and start writing the draft in my sandbox.... Abby8266 (talk) 07:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Drive Awards

Do you want to do them or shall I, I'm more than happy to do them if you don't have time. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 19:30, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Let's split the work. I know it is a little awkward to award oneself, so maybe you can give the awards (both normal and streak) for everyone who got 400 or more points, and i can do the rest. I'll start after you finish. In any case, we have to wait till the 4th since i told people that they can submit their CSD logs till 3rd midnight. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:51, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Sounds good, also CSD logs should have week calculations for the streak awards so I might have to go and calculate all that for the people who submitted CSD logs. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 08:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
I've asked people to state if any award levels change. So, just a verification for such folk will be needed. I don't expect too many. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:02, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

May 2023 NPP Drive Awards

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

This award is given to MPGuy2824 for collecting more than 400 points doing redirect reviews, in the May 2023 NPP backlog reduction drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Rack and pinion Award

This award is given to MPGuy2824 for collecting more than 60 points per week doing reviews, in the May 2023 NPP backlog reduction drive. Thank you for your contributions Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


Also, I'm finished, so you are welcome to start. Thanks, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, I had the wrong streak award on my clipboard, so I've got the correct one for you. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 16:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
NP. I too had to correct a few of my mistakes. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:44, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 Done -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Md Abidur Rahaman

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Question from Fletcherpoole (16:20, 6 June 2023)

Hi mentor!

I was just wondering, what's the best articles to start with? I'd like to focus mainly on referencing to back up the claims on here, and also correcting some of my expert knowledge. --Fletcherpoole (talk) 16:20, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

@Fletcherpoole: Welcome to Wikipedia. From your edits you looks like you are interested in Medicine/Fitness. You could join a wikiproject (WikiProject Medicine in this case). Each wikiproject has a list of todos for articles within that project. For Medicine, the list is here. Since you are looking to start with adding references, you should go the section "Cites no sources". Hope that helps. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello MPGuy2824,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

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You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

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Autopatrolled

Hello @MPGuy2824, I hope you're doing well. Can you spare a moment and list down my flaws related to my article creation and suggest some improvements. Also I'm have 2 copyvio and a block. Thanks for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:42, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi C1K98V, I assume that you are contacting me because you've recently seen me nominating a few folk for the autopatrolled right. I've just started on that, and am currently nominating folks who create articles where UPE isn't even considered (Who would pay someone to create species articles?). Now on to your question: your copyright issue seems to be from some time ago and you've been nominating revisions for rev-del due to copyright, so i guess an admin would say that you are hyper-aware of copyright issues now. The same goes for your block which was also related to copyright. That said, why do you want this right? This right isn't of any use to the holder, as you know. It is more to reduce the burden on the NPP team.
A belated welcome to NPP, btw! Join us on discord, if you want. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:47, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 Thanks for the welcome to nop team. Yeah I came across your edits that you're nominating users. I have a past history of block/copyvio, which I always try to be transparent with and acknowledge it. Also I'm aware that having autopatrol won't bring any changes in my editing and I like having a second pair of eyes who look after my creation. Now coming to your question why I want the right is because the first and foremost reason is to reduce the burden from the npp team. As I believe that I have learnt from my past mistakes and it's evident from my recent creation too. Only one issue is flagged which I'm dedicated/intent to improve, if I can't then I will take it in Afd for community consensus to decide on it. And if there are any other issues which I missed I'm happy to work on your suggestion. Thanks for your consideration C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 15:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
I recently nominated someone who had a copyright warning some time back and it was rejected. Since you say that you'd prefer having the second pair of eyes on your creations, i don't think that you should consider autopatrolled for yourself. Cheers and happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Glad that you looked at my contributions. Thanks. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Theraza (06:46, 20 June 2023)

I want to write wiki-article on Ahmed Raza (https://www.ahmedrazachuhdary.com), founder and ceo of Thear (https://thear.com.pk). How should I start? What sources are good? Which templates/infobox I insert? --Theraza (talk) 06:46, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

@Theraza: Welcome to Wikipedia. I see that you've already started on the draft at Draft:Ahmed Raza Chuhdary. The next step to getting the draft approved is to show notability. Wikipedia's definition of notability says that the subject needs 2-3 secondary, reliable sources that talk about the subject in-depth. The sources that are present right now in the article aren't secondary. One is the website of his company, and one is his personal website. Have some news/magazine sites done a profile piece on him? I'd suggest that you not worry about the templates/infoboxes for now. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:42, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft

Hey @MPGuy2824

Could you please take a look at the draft for "The Last Queen" (2022)? It would be great if you could provide some feedback or suggestions.

Regards Riad Salih (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Looks like it was accepted at AFC, so you don't need my input. I cleaned up the references a bit. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

List of Chery vehicles

List of Chery vehicles is a list of articles, with independent article of every car. What kind of citation do you expect? Infinty 0 (talk) 06:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Even lists on Wikipedia need to meet a notability criteria (WP:NLIST in this case). I'm sure you can start by adding relevant references from each of those articles. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
How about these lists, List of Audi vehicles, List of Ford vehicles, same kind of list without references. Maybe you can also request the same to them. Infinty 0 (talk) 06:31, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
The ford one has some references, but it should be ok if you want to add the unreferenced tag to the audi one. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:55, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

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Georg Kawerau

Hello! I noticed you moved my article on Georg Kawerau into the drafts, claiming it lacked notability. To this, I say a few things. First, the article exists in several other languages, and clearly it's notable enough for them; given the important contributions the archeologist made to Greek archeology, information on him ought to be accessible in English too. Second, the article is NOT unsourced; there IS a bibliography, and while sources don't correspond to specific lines (which admittedly is unideal), I lack access to the original hard-copy sources since I'm translating other articles, and didn't write it originally. Third, Georg Kawerau is linked in several other articles, and has an entire section devoted to him in the feature article Panagiotis Kavvadias, so clearly he's notable. While the article can be improved, it's better to have a quite decent amount of knowledge accessible to English speakers than to have nothing at all. Let the perfect not be the enemy of the good. We both seek to make Wikipedia better and information more freely accessible; deletion of a perfectly fine article serves neither of our interests. Please respond on my talk page (because that's where I check). If you don't, I'll be restoring the article. Thank you. Gug01 (talk) 02:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I'll respond on your talk page per your request. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

2008 WhatsOnStage awards page

Hi there, you tagged the page I created as needing more references, but I have just copied the model of the Awards page for 2022, 2019, 2018 etc. which only have one reference to the awards page as well. Why should the page I created be different? Can you explain? Thank you so much Musicalge3k5 (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

@Musicalge3k5: If you look at the page history of 2008 WhatsOnStage Awards, you'll notice that I added the unreferenced tag to it when it had 0 references. Then you added a ref, following which another reviewer correctly changed the tag to a more-citations-needed tag. Even lists on Wikipedia need to follow notability guidelines (WP:NLIST in this case). Adding 1 or 2 more references would help the article. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello

Hello @MPGuy2824

I just want to let you know that there are no self published sources on List of actions by Major Singh Johal. You had marked this page as having self published sources. It was just sources whose publisher I didn’t add, but now I have added the publisher to all sources on the page.


Best wishes CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

pptesting.in still seems weird to me. Also, can you add the citations to the individual table rows. There is no particuar need for a separate column for the sources. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Also, if there were dates (even rough ones) to the various rows it would make them easy to refute/confirm. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
I will work on that later today or tomorrow. For now I have added some categories. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Off the top of my head most of the actions happened in 1988-1991 CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 After digging / getting others to dig through old punjabi newspapers I find discussed in Punjabi newspapers and searching online I come across very little. It is mentioned in big Punjab Newspapers like Ajit but nothing in english other than a detail here or there. Maybe through more digging I can find something. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Through more digging not a whole lot turned up. I will add all the Punjabi newspapers, and the few english sources to the page soon. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 04:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
According to this he was 35 in 2017, which means he was born around 1982. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:53, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Jagtar Singh Johal is not the same as Major Singh Johal who the article is about. Major Singh Johal was killed in 1991. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 04:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 I added many sources. I still have more to add. Tell me what you think? :) CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 05:09, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
  1. Many of the sources (like the hook2book ones) aren't checkable online.
  2. Wikipedia is not supposed to be used as a reference (Ajit newspaper)
  3. I've checked a few of the google books links at random. Unable to get a search hit for Johal on the ones that i tried. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
    1. The reason why it isn’t checkable online is simply because it is in Punjabi. Punjabi books aren’t easily available online.
    2. Wikipedia isn’t being cited. Ajit newspaper is being cited. I just link to the Ajit wikipedia page since the issue I am talking about isn’t available digitally as I have it physically.
    3. They are used for the number of casualties. locations etc. Johal’s involvement is cited by other sources. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 05:39, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
    @MPGuy2824 CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    Hey, there is no particular need to ping me on my own talk page. I get notifications of changes/additions anyway. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    Sorry, I just wasn’t sure if you had seen the message. Is there any other problems with the page? I have addressed the ones you raised. :)
    CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    The Ajit paper link will have to be split into separate references for each table row with a separate date and article title for each. Consider putting a 2-3 sentence biographical paragraph in the lead of this article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    Okay will do. One thing the article titles are in Punjabi so should I put punjabi there or a translation? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    You can add both. title in punjabi, lang=pa, trans-title in english in the cite template. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    Okay, thanks. Should I tell you when I am done or is there no need? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
    No, that's ok. I've tried to verify stuff, but nothing seems available online, as you said. Maybe a reviewer with access to the old copies of the newspaper would be able to review the article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Micronesian football draftification

You recently drafitfied Palau national football B team and Yap football team, which were created by the same editor. I suggest you also take a look at Chuuk football team and Pohnpei football team, which were also created by them and suffer from the exact same problems. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

I've been told (and i agree) that the same person draftifying a lot of articles is a bit hounding to new editors. I've messaged their talk page with a suggestion to start drafts in draftspace using the article wizard. Hope that works! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Question from 1undisputed (10:23, 7 July 2023)

Hi, feels great to have you as a mentor here on Wikipedia.. I've gone through series of demo videos on how to edit and add articles on Wikipedia. This Is just me saying “Hi” to you and surely, I'll be back here as soon as I need help. Thanks boss --1undisputed (talk) 10:23, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@1undisputed: Hi back! Welcome to wikipedia editing. Try not to be overwhelmed by all the information. Start with simple things and go on from there. I would recommend completing Wikipedia:TWA. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Reviewing of my article

I tried something different this time; wrote a lot of Politician biography, but this time its an IPS officer. Can you please review as i can't wait to get it appear at mainspace. See Chandan Kushwaha.-Admantine123 (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

@Admantine123: To meet WP:GNG you need to show 2-3 secondary, reliable sources that cover the subject in-depth. I checked the first 3 references in the article and they don't meet the in-depth criteria. What according to you are the three best sources in the article?
Thanks for your work in creating the MLA articles, btw. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Though, detail source about his personal life is not available as of now, but i created it on the basis of Notability criteria for officeholders. The criteria of significant role (He is currently Commandant of Home Gaurds, a post equal in rank to DG) and significant media coverage is fulfilled. He was involved in unearthing "Bodhgaya serial blasts", arrest of JDU MLA Anant Singh and is covered regularly by the media. He is also not known for WP:1EVENT. I have seen articles of many bureaucrats here on mainspace which are written on same basis. I recently nominated one of them for delition thinking what you are saying, but it was saved on criteria i have listed above. Talking about this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balmiki Prasad Singh, similarly Abhayanand, Rajesh Kumar (IPS), Anuj Sharma (IPS) and many more also exists, here also no source tells about his personal life in depth and his article is based on his initiatives only and sources are also backing the same. Anyways thanks, let see what any other new page reviewer thinks.-Admantine123 (talk) 04:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
The only AfD that you linked to is where the subject passes NPOL due to his governor stint. Local heads of police would need to pass GNG. Anyway, like you said, another new page reviewer can take a look at it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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Phoolan Devi

Hi, saw your request at the India project page. I am on the WP app & it won't let me post there (or any other project talk page). I have tweaked the caste mention in the early years bit of the article to reflect common usage. Obviously, revert if inappropriate! I haven't checked the rest of the article but if there are any other queries re caste there then perhaps ping me. - Sitush (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Seems ok. Thanks! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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