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JJPMachine

Hello JJPMaster, the username of your bot account violates WP:BOTACC. Please have the account renamed to something that clearly identifies it as a bot. You can tell me the new username here, and I can rename it for you, or you can request the change through the username venues. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although it's not approved and running yet, you filed a BRFA, so if you plan to run this in the future, this should be helpful. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DreamRimmer, sorry about that. I must have thought that "Machine" would be clear enough for that policy's sake, but it appears I was mistaken. I think "JJPMaster (bot)" would be the clearest alternative. — JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 15:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just to confirm, would you like me to rename it to JJPMaster (bot)? – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DreamRimmer, correct. — JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 15:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed. Thanks for your kind response and confirmation. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Isiko Muhammad El (18:50, 6 December 2024)

Hi,

I recently started the journey to my roots with the help of AfricanAncestry.com who certified the paternal lineage in my DNA to be in Burkina Faso and of the Bissa ethnic group. I am a Mass Communication - Radio, TV, and Film (major)/ Journalism (minor) and I work in my field of study. I am going to tell my family's story and I need some direction on where to start. I have me (Point A), and I have this DNA information leading to Burkina Faso and possibly an actual Family Reunion with the person/ people who are my family in Burkina Faso walking around with the "same" DNA as me (Point Z). I want to get from Point A to Point Z. Can you help me? --Isiko Muhammad El (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Isiko Muhammad El: Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, I do not believe that your idea would be a good fit for Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a family genealogy website. However, there are plenty of websites where you can do this, such as Ancestry.com, MyHeritage, and FamilySearch. I suggest that you head there for any genealogy needs. Thank you! JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 18:55, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply.

I understand. I came here because much of my geographical and general cultural research information will most likely come from Wikipedia. The genealogy aspects of this journey will start with whatever information my dad and uncles have which I will use to build as much of the family tree as possible opening up that many options for tracing. I came to Wikipedia because some of the finest researchers are found right here and my family and I - being that we are African Americans - do not have too many resources that we can tap to help get the ball rolling outside of the sources you have named. While we already have several profiles on Ancestry.com, none of them have produced any ripe fruit yet and it's been years that we've had these accounts. Now that we have a certified root in the ground in Africa, we have a destination. I plan to produce a journalistic piece from myself back to Africa, a story that is pretty dynamic.

What I am looking for help with is how these stories are built and how to include sources, such as those found on Wikipedia.

I hope what's in my mind is coming out on this form in a way that conveys what I need... Isiko Muhammad El (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Isiko Muhammad El: If you are interested in learning how to use Wikipedia as a source, I suggest reading Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia. You could also ask for help on the reference desk, which is our place for asking general questions. However, my job is mainly to help people in editing Wikipedia, not reading it, so I may not be the best of help here. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 03:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Transwiki issue

Hi! Sorry for the mass rollback, but I was worried someone would delete them all and put us in a situation that's kind of tedious to reverse. So, when you imported these pages to Wikibooks, you only imported the most recent revision. Currently, that meets the attribution requirements for CC BY-SA 4.0 because there's a link to the original enwiki page on each. But, if the enwiki page is deleted, that attribution is no longer valid, and now Wikibooks is violating copyrights. Is there a reason you can't import the full page history? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: I'm working on this right now. There's currently a bug on enwikibooks where ticking the "Import as subpages of the following page" box doesn't work, and instead copies them to the Transwiki namespace. Since I'm in the equivalent of EggRoll97's situation (non-admin transwiki importer), I couldn't perform a history merge to fix the outcome of the mass importation, and have had to make a request on our version of AN. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 11:17, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: Thanks to the work of MarcGarver, this problem has now been resolved. The pages can be safely deleted. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 14:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should all be done now. First time using D-batch in ages so let me know if I broke the wiki. Note that Wikibooks pages usually aren't linked inline, so I've unbacklinked rather than interwiki-linking, but if there's a case where it's particularly useful, WP:MOSSIS isn't super-strict on it either, so as you will. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 17:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trans wiki issue

Too many trans people amiright?

Sorry couldn't resist.

(This is a joke please no ArbCom.) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 18:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: I'm proud to be a trans²wiki importer on Wikibooks—that is, a transgender transwiki importer. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 15:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ecfactman (22:28, 20 December 2024)

Hi Junie,

I'm new to Wikipedia as a contributor. Yesterday I created an article in my 'sandbox' titled 'United States Horoscope'. It's the first article I've ever edited or contributed. When I finished it, I hit the 'Publish' button.

What will happen now? --Ecfactman (talk) 22:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ecfactman: Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! When you pressed "Publish", it posted the content of your article to your sandbox. If you wish, you can use the Article wizard to submit it. However, I advise against doing this, as the article consists of original research and appears to presuppose the fringe theory of astrology. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 22:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I advise against doing this, as the article consists of original research and appears to presuppose the fringe theory of astrology. JJPMaster (she/they) 22:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Junie,

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to respond to each of your two objections.

1)

I don’t understand your proposition that the article is based upon ‘original research’ when there were 4 sources cited to support the fact that the United States legally came into being at 12:45 P.M. on June 21, 1788.

3 of them are official Government sources. The fourth is from the Boston University School of Law.

https://search.library.wisc.edu/digital/ATR2WPX6L3UFLH8I/pages/AWW44LLLVHYOYT85?as=text (See left hand page, paragraph 2)

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2013/06/21/the-real-constitution-day/ (see paragraph 7)

https://www.loc.gov/collections/continental-congress-and-constitutional-convention-from-1774-to-1789/articles-and-essays/timeline/1787-to-1788/ (see 1788 marker and grey box on right hand side of the page next to it)

https://www.loc.gov/collections/continental-congress-and-constitutional-convention-from-1774-to-1789/articles-and-essays/timeline/1787-to-1788/ (see final paragraph of the PDF document)

I understand the reasons for, respect, and wholly support Wikipedia’s rigorous standards for facts in support of arguments put forth in articles. That is precisely why I included the sources that I did.

If you actually went to the sources and reviewed them, I don’t see how you could possibly conclude they are erroneous. That would effectively be telling the US Government it doesn’t know the true facts about its own origins.

2)

To say that the article should be rejected because it deals with ‘the fringe theory of astrology’, I have 2 things to say in response.

One:

I did a Google search with the term: Wikipedia astrologers. Many Wikipedia articles having to do with Astrology came up in the search results. Here is just one example: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Astrologers)

So, obviously Wikipedia does not automatically reject an article merely because it deals with the subject of astrology. Neither do the Wikipedia articles I reviewed include a disclaimer or any type of caution message saying that ‘Astrology is a practice based upon ‘a fringe theory’.

Two:

More importantly, my article does not advocate for Astrology, it merely states that anyone who chooses to practice Astrology must be able to obtain reliably sourced accurate data upon which to do their calculations.

The whole point of the Article is to provide exactly that… reliably sourced accurate data regarding the true date, place, and time the United States of America began.

I’m trying to get a little known truth out there to counter the legally and factually false (and widespread) notion that the United States of America came into being on July 4, 1776. It did not.

Thank you for your time. In light of the above, I hope you will decide to remove your objections to the Article being published if I opt to do so. Ecfactman (talk) 00:04, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, the claim of original research is largely due to this section:

What happened on July 4, 1776 was that 13 rebellious British Colonies declared that they were going to break away from Britain and form a new nation.

The Declaration of Independence was NOT a legally binding document. It was merely a Declaration of Intent. The 13 rebellious colonies could have lost the war of rebellion (Revolutionary War). So, at best, the 'idea' of the United States came into being on July 4,1776, but not the actual nation.

The 'idea' is like a seed, a 'conception'. It is comparable, in human terms, of one's 'date of conception' - the date one's mother becomes pregnant. It is not the day/date one is physically born. In a biological pregnancy, lots of mishaps can happen between conception and the expected date of birth, mishaps which could disrupt or terminate the pregnancy. The same could be said about the period between the Declaration of Independence on July 4,1776 and Ratification of the US Constitution and the birth of the United States of America 12 years later on June 21,1788.

The sources you provide do not appear to support the idea that the Declaration of Independence didn't actually declare independence, or that countries are comparable to humans in terms of birth.

Second, articles about astrology are fine, otherwise, I wouldn't have linked astrology in my earlier message. But your article is not merely about astrology, it is asserting the truth of an astrological claim. On Wikipedia, astrology is generally considered pseudoscience, so we should not make claims that treat it as established fact, as your article appears to do. I advise that you post this on a subreddit such as r/AdvancedAstrology or a blog, since the article appears to be written for the sake of advocating a particular point of view rather than providing encyclopedic information. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 00:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]