User talk:Hurricane Noah/Archive 4
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Season's Greetings!
Hello, Hurricane Noah! Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. May 2021 be an even better year for you! Stay safe and healthy. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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Happy Holidays!
Hello Hurricane Noah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:54, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Happy Holidays!
Hello Hurricane Noah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 01:42, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Re: Olivia
IDK if you're going to find enough to bring Olivia to FAC. If that's still your plan, then I'd split off the preps into its own section, and then have the impact section go island by island (starting with the overall damage).
- Bit more impacts - flooded homes and highway
- Offices/parks closed, 15,800 people without power
- Dozen homes flooded
- Flight canceled
- Downed trees, a roof blown off, closed road, etc.
I hope these few sources help a bit! Sorry it took a while to get back. I've been busy with end of the semester stuff, plus getting ready for Festivus/Xmas. I should be editing a lot more come next week. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I discovered that virtually no impact occurred on the Big Island and anything north of Oahu. Oahu wasn't even that badly affected other than a dam filling up decently high. Appears most of the impact was isolated to Maui County. I did find some more, but I think this is everything there is. idk how that would pan out for a FAC. NoahTalk 22:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, that's a good number of sources. Don't try stretching it out for the sake of having more words, but there could be enough still for FAC. I know how badly you'd like an all featured topic (which would be mighty impressive!) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:03, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I may be able to get a 3,000-word article. The rewrite is at 1100 words rn with about 20-30 more sources to go and no met. NoahTalk 17:37, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, that's a good number of sources. Don't try stretching it out for the sake of having more words, but there could be enough still for FAC. I know how badly you'd like an all featured topic (which would be mighty impressive!) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:03, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
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Typhoon Alice and Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas GA
Hurricane Noah, I'm here to report that tasks for Typhoon Alice (1953) has been complete and I would like to ask for your opinion about It looks better, but I'm not sure if you still want like one or two more paragraphs for it.
by Cyclone Toby in Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas GA. MarioJump83! 12:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Do you think this article is a part of 2018 Global FT? MarioJump83! 13:44, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Help
Hi Noah, I hope you are doing well. I am wondering where to retrieve the advisory/discussion archive for Hurricane Kilo. It's the first time I'm doing a Cpac storm. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 00:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- On NHC's website under CPAC tabs for advisories and TCRs. Btw, I am not going to have time to do anything on WP until May since I will have 120+ assignments per week for a single course. NoahTalk 01:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
FAR tropical cyclone
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Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian scheduled for TFA
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Thank you today for the article "about the powerful storm that stalled over the Bahamas at peak intensity and made at least eight total landfalls"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
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A new draft you might be interested in
Hey Hurricane Noah. I started Draft:Tornado outbreak of March 25, 2021 and thought you might be interested in it. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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About the 2018 EPAC timeline
I'm ready to work on it. Is there anything you need me to do at this point? CodingCyclone! 🌀 📘 20:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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Re: TC
Yea, sorry I've been MIA. I got into a bad headspace from work, and I was dealing with some relationship stuff. Today I had the strong desire to edit. But lately, IDK, I've felt an overwhelming sense of the enormity of what we're trying to do. For starters, we have so many articles that need to be updated, because they were written so long ago. A lot of our old FA's probably wouldn't pass today, but some for less problems than others (sourcing vs. comprehensiveness, most stuff is at least well-written and somewhat well-documented).
Re: TC, I think there could be one large section for Climatology and Records. The way I imagined it, it has some history of very old tropical cyclones, the start of the databases, records for storms (such as strongest/costliest/deadliest storms). That would eliminate the need for notable tropical cyclones, which is somewhat thorough, but it doesn't have a proper global perspective. Jason and I discussed, and perhaps the best way to approach the TC article is to structure it based on the sub-articles that we already have: tropical cyclones by area, naming, storms by year (which I agree needs to be split up more), whatnot. Perhaps there should be a technical article on Tropical cyclone structure? That will help focus the main article. Maybe merge/expand Central dense overcast into it. I'm not sure.
Doing this will help focus the other areas, such as tropical cyclones by area, which would then funnel into every country/territory list. Then TC naming will funnel all of the naming articles. TC's by year is already partially developed. This could be linked in the "Climatology and records" section. Also, I moved a sentence from Background to there, and so I think we can get rid of the "Background section". We also might be able to get rid of the Atlantic-biased "Notable tropical cyclones", and just put 1970 Bhola, Tip, and Katrina/Harvey in there. Other storms could get a mention if we do a section for "Effects by region", with the main article being Draft:Tropical cyclone effects by region. Just some (long overdue) thoughts. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: As you can see from my plan for the intensity subsection, it is quite a large topic with many subtopics of its own. The same factors that influence intensification also influence formation. Likewise with weakening and dissipation. It just makes since to discuss all of that related content in one place. I plan to rework the preparations eventually and expand it a great deal. NoahTalk 20:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, all of the elements of met history are related. Structure, intensity, dissipation, formation. I'm not sure the best name for such a section. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: All I can say is that I am going to have to add in a lot of content for intensity. There's so many important details on the topic that are missing. It will take me quite some time to get intensity completely up to par. We are probably looking at an additional 20–30k byte expansion from intensity-related content. The methods section was a long-needed addition of content. Factors for intensity are also a key part that is being worked out currently. RI will have to be scrapped and rewritten with new sources as the RI SST threshold mentioned is way too high; I have sources putting the MEAN at 28.5C. I need to condense the dissipation section as well. Not to mention all the restructuring that will eventually occur. I can handle this intensity section, but it will take a while to fill it all out. NoahTalk 23:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I decided to put the 2018 PHS timeline up for FLC since my classes are done now. It's the final obstacle... Let's hope it can be surmounted. NoahTalk 22:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: All I can say is that I am going to have to add in a lot of content for intensity. There's so many important details on the topic that are missing. It will take me quite some time to get intensity completely up to par. We are probably looking at an additional 20–30k byte expansion from intensity-related content. The methods section was a long-needed addition of content. Factors for intensity are also a key part that is being worked out currently. RI will have to be scrapped and rewritten with new sources as the RI SST threshold mentioned is way too high; I have sources putting the MEAN at 28.5C. I need to condense the dissipation section as well. Not to mention all the restructuring that will eventually occur. I can handle this intensity section, but it will take a while to fill it all out. NoahTalk 23:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, all of the elements of met history are related. Structure, intensity, dissipation, formation. I'm not sure the best name for such a section. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
WP:Weather
Hey, how's that all going? Sorry I haven't been too active on here. I'm focusing on RL stuff and mental health, but I should have time for some editing. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I have merged over a decent bit of WP Met but I have to manually sort hundreds of articles. Also, I put Olivia up. I don’t know if you saw how much it changed since the GA review 2 years ago, but it is a lot more full now. NoahTalk 17:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nice! I made a few project pages that'll eventually be expanded, that is, articles By location, By year, and By weather type. Jason made the location one, and it might have to be updated, but it gives a good overview for what articles are needed. I also reviewed Olivia - good work on it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I merged in WPNTS last night and am waiting for AWB so I can perform talkpage template cleanup. Once that is done, I can do severe weather. I can't edit the WPTC template since it requires template editor. I need to wait for the CCI to clear up anyways. In regards to your one comment on Olivia, even as a more conservative-leaning individual, I can say the "successful" businessman left quite a bad aftertaste. NoahTalk 17:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nice! I made a few project pages that'll eventually be expanded, that is, articles By location, By year, and By weather type. Jason made the location one, and it might have to be updated, but it gives a good overview for what articles are needed. I also reviewed Olivia - good work on it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
About the WikiProject merger
I just wanted to know which ones are being pulled in. Would WikiProject Volcanoes get merged in? What about Earthquakes, or Wildfires? Thanks. Also, is there anything I can do to help? (Note that I don't have AWB.) CodingCyclone! 🌀 📘 19:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just jumping in - the project is about different weather events. I don’t think we should include other natural disasters like earthquakes or volcanos, which are more geology than meteorology. However, wildfires should be, since they typically occur due to lightning and/or periods of drought. You don’t often hear of large wildfires in the tropics in times of plentiful rain. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- And, to add onto what HH said above, wildfires also can produce their own weather-related events, like Pyrocumulus and Pyrocumulonimbus, strong winds and even Firenados and they have a large effect on atmospheric conditions, in regards to aerosols, and climatic impacts. Not to mention, wildfires have many environmental impacts, and can change how the weather or climate is for certain locations. As for volcanoes, one could argue that it should get merged as their eruptions (especially the major ones) have a profound effect on atmospheric and weather-related conditions, such as ashfall, and global cooling (very rarely) though like HH said they are mainly geological events. Maybe on articles regarding major volcanic eruptions, we could add one of the WP banner assessment classes, so that we could get some editors with weather experience to update and add more factual information. For example, a great article that is related to a volcanic eruption is the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo. Not only did this have many impacts on environmental and atmospheric conditions (It is theorized that it may have even played a part in the 1993 Storm of the Century, per the article itself) but as the major eruption occurred, damages were increased/worsened from Typhoon Yunya (1991), which happened to be nearby, causing rain-laden ash to fall. That is a good example of how some more geological phenomena could still be part of the Weather Wikiproject. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 05:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @CodingCyclone and CycloneFootball71: It is great to wake up and see your comments about the weather project, as they make me excited for the future. I wasn't aware that there was a separate wikiproject for Wildfires, which we should probably consult with about merging into the weather project. However, my feeling is that we would be going to far if we added WP:Mountains, WP:Volcanoes or WP:Earthquakes as while they all have significant effects on the weather they are mainly geological events. That doesn't mean that we couldn't cover the effects of mountains or volcanoes on the weather or add Tsunamis to overall flood articles. What we really could do with is your local knowledge about the weather in your area/country and help researching topics like Floods in Fiji, Vanuatu etc or Tornadoes in New Zealand.Jason Rees (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- I too am excited for the future of the project and where it is headed. As for Geology, you and HH are definitely right that those are all geologically related, despite locally affecting the weather. As for researching local weather topics, I will definitely do that, I am planning on finishing/writing an article over time in the realm of tropical/extratropical cyclone effects in the Pacific northwest, in which I currently am located at. However, I might make Hurricanes in Washington as that is direct to my state, and that would probably be easier for me, plus it was on articles by location.🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 18:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink, CycloneFootball71, and Jason Rees: – Thank you all for your input! I could consult with the Wildfires WikiProject later today. I don't want to reveal my location so I'll see about researching to help make some of those redlinks blue. :) CodingCyclone! 🌀 📘 18:08, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @CodingCyclone and CycloneFootball71: It is great to wake up and see your comments about the weather project, as they make me excited for the future. I wasn't aware that there was a separate wikiproject for Wildfires, which we should probably consult with about merging into the weather project. However, my feeling is that we would be going to far if we added WP:Mountains, WP:Volcanoes or WP:Earthquakes as while they all have significant effects on the weather they are mainly geological events. That doesn't mean that we couldn't cover the effects of mountains or volcanoes on the weather or add Tsunamis to overall flood articles. What we really could do with is your local knowledge about the weather in your area/country and help researching topics like Floods in Fiji, Vanuatu etc or Tornadoes in New Zealand.Jason Rees (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- And, to add onto what HH said above, wildfires also can produce their own weather-related events, like Pyrocumulus and Pyrocumulonimbus, strong winds and even Firenados and they have a large effect on atmospheric conditions, in regards to aerosols, and climatic impacts. Not to mention, wildfires have many environmental impacts, and can change how the weather or climate is for certain locations. As for volcanoes, one could argue that it should get merged as their eruptions (especially the major ones) have a profound effect on atmospheric and weather-related conditions, such as ashfall, and global cooling (very rarely) though like HH said they are mainly geological events. Maybe on articles regarding major volcanic eruptions, we could add one of the WP banner assessment classes, so that we could get some editors with weather experience to update and add more factual information. For example, a great article that is related to a volcanic eruption is the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo. Not only did this have many impacts on environmental and atmospheric conditions (It is theorized that it may have even played a part in the 1993 Storm of the Century, per the article itself) but as the major eruption occurred, damages were increased/worsened from Typhoon Yunya (1991), which happened to be nearby, causing rain-laden ash to fall. That is a good example of how some more geological phenomena could still be part of the Weather Wikiproject. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 05:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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Precious anniversary
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User talk:Hurricane Noah/Hurricane Leslie (2018)/Sources
You might find some sources here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Thanks. This should be one massive article once it is finished. There are 90 sources in it right now and I have 85 more links to look at (almost all Portuguese) and then I found a few articles amongst the ones you provided that could be useful. It's very likely this article will exceed 100k bytes markup. NoahTalk 12:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Is this template headed in the same direction as the previous three (i.e. Template:WikiProject Floods)? It's showing up in Category:WikiProject banners with formatting errors like the others did. JPG-GR (talk) 17:59, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- @JPG-GR: it should have already been taken care of by bot. NoahTalk 21:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- The other three (Template:WikiProject Floods, Template:WikiProject Weather Data and Instrumentation, and Template:WikiProject Droughts and Fire Events) were, but this one doesn't appear to have been included in that bunch. JPG-GR (talk) 21:45, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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I don't know how you haven't gotten this barnstar from what I can see. You've made fantastic good articles that have educated many on tropical cyclones and promoted most to FA status; thank you for your seemingly endless work. By the way, it's good to see another Eagle Scout on Wikipedia. JayTee🐦 17:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC) |
- @JayTee32: Thanks a lot! I have been trying to work on getting articles for the 2018 Featured Topic. NoahTalk 03:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey there, thanks again for your review of Martin Rundkvist. I took a look at your nomination too, but it looks like it's already in good shape, with three supports and a source review. But let me know if it gets to a place where you think it needs another set of eyes, or if you have another nomination that could do with a review, and I'd be happy to take a look. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Usernameunique:The issue is the article only has two comprehensive reviews; flyby supports are weightied significantly less. At least from my experience, two reviews isn’t enough. The coordinators want people outside of WPTC to look at the articles as well. I will take a look at your nomination tonight sometime when I get home. NoahTalk 22:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just went back to give this a review, and saw it had been promoted. Congrats! It's well deserved. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:35, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Promotion of Hurricane Olivia (2018)
- Like +1! Awesome job Noah! Keep up the great work! 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 14:53, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hurricane Paulette
Hey Noah, I was considering reviewing Hurricane Paulette's GA nomination, but it is currently a C. I believe it meets B-class now, but could I get your opinion as well? Please take a look at the article just whenever you have time. Thank you! JayTee🐦 13:09, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: It doesn't really matter what the article is listed at currently. I have had articles go from stub to GA simply because I didnt bother to update the status. An article could go from stub to FA without a GA review if it was written well enough. B-class is not really all that commonly used in this project and across Wikipedia. I would just review the GAN and list any concerns there as a temporary change in status to B-class would be rather pointless. The article doesn't look bad by any means. NoahTalk 13:35, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds good, I just wanted to be sure to get another opinion on it. Thanks for the help. JayTee🐦 14:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
A special effort requires something special...
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The 2018 Pacific hurricane season FT is likely the most insane amount of effort I've seen one person put into something on-wiki. Massive congratulations on its promotion today! ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 11:54, 10 June 2021 (UTC) |
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Odd edits to Typhoon articles
Hi Noah, I have come across a user who has been making what a number of unexplained date related edits/moves to various typhoon articles ([1][2]), as well as changing disambiguation pages to lists (eg. List of typhoons named Matmo). (Full contributions.) I can't quite figure out what is going on, or whether it's productive. I was going to raise this in at WP:TC, but thought it might be best to check on a less public individual talk page first. Best, CMD (talk) 11:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: It's disruptive as it is changing a set of articles without discussion. There is no consensus to change disambiguations to list articles. NoahTalk 20:24, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- It does seem an odd change, but they are a new user. Unfortunately they have not replied to my talk page message. Is there a particular person in WP:TC who may be best to reach out regarding WP:TC practices, or should I enquire on the wikiproject page? CMD (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: People have already tried to reach out by leaving customized warning messages without success. NoahTalk 10:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- It does seem an odd change, but they are a new user. Unfortunately they have not replied to my talk page message. Is there a particular person in WP:TC who may be best to reach out regarding WP:TC practices, or should I enquire on the wikiproject page? CMD (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms
Hi, what exactly have you been trying to do at Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms? I see several edits of yours there, some of which are reversions. It's not a good idea to make untested changes to a live template: per WP:TESTCASES, the thing to do is copy Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms to Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms/sandbox, then set up some testcases at Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms/testcases. When those are satisfactory, you can copy Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms/sandbox to Template:WikiProject Non-tropical storms. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: I needed to look at how a live article behaved with a taskforce parameter. I made sure nothing broke the template or caused unusual behavior before saving it. The change simply didn't do anything period when called on the article's talkpage. I didn't use testcases since this template is about to be merged + deleted. NoahTalk 20:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- In order to pass a value through to
{{WikiProject Weather}}
, the line should have been:with optional spacing. None of your attempts matched that: most of them included an undesirable| atl-task-force = {{{atl-task-force|}}}
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so it wouldn't have worked. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)- @Redrose64: Oh.. okay. I put up a request at Template talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones for a change to place articles under WP Weather using the correct codes. NoahTalk 19:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- In order to pass a value through to
Hurricane Olivia (2018) scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 10 August, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page if one has been posted. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:19, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Article alerts/Log for Severe weather template
Hi, Template:WikiProject Severe weather doesn't have any talk pages associated with it, so it is triggering an error on the Wikipedia:Article alerts/Log page. Just checking with you that the Severe weather project should probably be taken off the subscription list at Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Subscription_list#S. I'm not sure which template has taken priority, maybe you can check to make sure that the current subprojects for weather/meterology are listed? Thanks~ --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Funandtrvl: Yes, it can be removed. NoahTalk 21:48, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- done, thanks --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:40, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Hurricane Noah,
I've been going through inactive or defunct WikiProjects and found that many had set up dozens of article assessment categories but no members ever tagged any articles. So, they are just around 20+ empty categories.
I know you are involved with the Tropical Cyclones project and you set up this task force but there also some discussion about consolidating weather-related WikiProjects. So, do you expect categories in Category:Anomalous tropical cyclone articles by quality to ever be used? I'm really just doing clean up duties so if you expect articles to be assessed here, I'll leave them alone. But if you are closing up this task force, then I'll tidy things up. But knowing how active Tropical Cyclones is, I don't want to do anything without checking with y'all first. Liz Read! Talk! 02:17, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Liz: I would wait for the additional discussion to close before taking any action regarding these categories. It has been quite a pain dealing with all the red tape. Hopefully, it will be done soon. NoahTalk 02:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine, it's certainly not an urgent matter. Good luck with your efforts to get consensus on moving forward. Liz Read! Talk! 05:37, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you today for Hurricane Olivia (2018), about "a long-lasting Category 4 hurricane that affected Hawaii as a tropical storm in September 2018, shortly after Hurricane Lane passed by a few weeks prior"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
WikiProject Twenty-Tens Decade Started
Hey. I know we have crossed paths every now and then with weather articles, so I wanted to invite you to a new WikiProject, the WikiProject of the Twenty-Tens decade. It was proposed near the end of May, but it was officially created today. Not sure if you would be interested, but I thought I would drop you an invite and say hi. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:37, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Plan and check-in
Hey there Noah. My RL has been a struggle lately, trying to get music gigs, finding a new apartment, working too much and not being able to focus on my own needs enough. Things are still in flux, but at least I can squeeze in some time for some WP edits. My goal for the year has been to finish Draft:Tropical cyclone effects by region, as well as various weather articles for 2021 (including Weather in 2021, heat waves in 2021, etc.) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I left a bunch of topic boxes on the WP Weather page regarding the 2018 year. Feel free to add anything I missed. I finished my portion of Fakir and have started helping with the season article for SWIO 17–18. We are going to have subsections underneath the effects table for severe, season-wide aftermath. For Fakir, KN may be finishing up the rest of it this weekend? In regards to work, a couple of weeks ago I had 6 days a week and did 7 AM - 11 PM on one of the days. NoahTalk 16:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- My time is still going to be limited in the near future. Much as I would love to have all of the time in the world for Wikipedia, I'm trying to prioritize my time. I've been on Wikipedia for almost 16 years, so I know there will always be tasks to complete, projects to finish, and the work will eventually get done. I just want to make sure that 16 years from now when I look back on this edit, I'll have lived my life truthfully, explored what I wanted, and I'm the type of musician I wanted to be. It's a tricky balance between work, life, and Wiki. Good work with Fakir :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I just wanted to ask you how you feel about having subsections under the effects table at 2017–18 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season? There's quite a bit of impact and aftermath for Reunion that is for the entire season as a whole. NoahTalk 21:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: Fakir is at GAN and KN should be finishing the rest of the season article (my expansions brought it to 100k bytes markup). I am trying to finish Ivo '19 and get it out of my userspace before the semester begins. I plan to periodically do Gordon '18 during the semester. NoahTalk 20:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Great work on all these! So my weird/stressful summer is gradually coming to a close, and I was able to get some edits done, finally finishing Tropical cyclone effects by region. I'm not sure if it should be high or top importance. Next on my to do list is Weather of 2021 and the associated sub-articles, which would also be high importance. I want to get the articles ready so next year, we have in place yearly weather articles (list of floods, list of heat waves, etc). I want to get back to 2018 eventually though, it's just a slightly lower priority for my limited editing time. Hope you understand, and I hope school goes well this semester! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:38, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: Fakir is at GAN and KN should be finishing the rest of the season article (my expansions brought it to 100k bytes markup). I am trying to finish Ivo '19 and get it out of my userspace before the semester begins. I plan to periodically do Gordon '18 during the semester. NoahTalk 20:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: I just wanted to ask you how you feel about having subsections under the effects table at 2017–18 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season? There's quite a bit of impact and aftermath for Reunion that is for the entire season as a whole. NoahTalk 21:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- My time is still going to be limited in the near future. Much as I would love to have all of the time in the world for Wikipedia, I'm trying to prioritize my time. I've been on Wikipedia for almost 16 years, so I know there will always be tasks to complete, projects to finish, and the work will eventually get done. I just want to make sure that 16 years from now when I look back on this edit, I'll have lived my life truthfully, explored what I wanted, and I'm the type of musician I wanted to be. It's a tricky balance between work, life, and Wiki. Good work with Fakir :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Missing categories?
Hey HN, I saw you reverted my edit to {{WikiProject Weather/class}}; do you plan to create the Portal-Class assessment categories, as well as all the other assessment categories, that are now required for the project based on how you have set up the template? I pinged User:Funandtrvl, but got no response. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @UnitedStatesian: Yeah, it shouldnt be too hard to get those set up. NoahTalk 20:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, awesome. While you are at it could you also fix all your categories that are in Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention? Basically those have all been set up incorrectly, using the
class=Project
parameter, rather than the correct class parameter. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)- (talk page stalker) I think we need to look very carefully at these categories before we set them up, for example, why do we need Category:Future-Class North Indian tropical cyclone articles or Category:Future-Class Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone articles.Jason Rees (talk) 20:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yo, HN, it has been two weeks and not a single needed category has been set up? Accordingly I am reverting the class page to the last good version. Also pinging @Funandtrvl: and @Jason Rees: once one of you has created all the necessary categories, feel free to revert my revert. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I think we need to look very carefully at these categories before we set them up, for example, why do we need Category:Future-Class North Indian tropical cyclone articles or Category:Future-Class Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone articles.Jason Rees (talk) 20:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, awesome. While you are at it could you also fix all your categories that are in Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention? Basically those have all been set up incorrectly, using the
48th issue of Hurricane Herald newsletter
The Hurricane Herald: 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics Special Edition!
The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue your subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project-related events from May 1–September 3, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are LightandDark2000, MarioJump83, HurricaneParrot, CodingCyclone, CycloneFootball71, HurricaneCovid, HurricaneEdgar, Jason Rees, and Destroyeraa (the MoTM for this issue). Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments
New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include: Member of the month (Editor's Pick) – Nova Crystallis and Supportstorm In this edition of Hurricane Herald, I (MarioJump83, one of the Hurricane Herald editors) am going to award Nova Crystallis and Supportstorm with my pick. Both of them are second-generation of WPTC members who joined Wikipedia in 2011 and 2014, respectively. Their most notable work were off-wiki: Nova Crystallis created the WPTC Discord server in August 2018, an idea of Hurricane Noah's, and has since then administered the server to this day, including several server cleanups on the occasions of server disruptions. Supportstorm, meanwhile, is one of the most prolific track creator in all of WPTC, which led some WPTC members (Janm 7 in particular) to ask him for tracks, and as of now, he's actively converting track images from JPG into PNG versions, including the creation of tropical cyclones by year tracks. However, their on-wiki work deserve appreciation as well, since Nova Crystallis has created numerous GA-class WPAC pre-1980 typhoon articles pre-1980, in addition to actively creating GAs for WikiProject U.S. Roads, while Supportstorm takes their time to add their tracks into the articles once they're done and was once assisted in the creation of 1960s North Indian Ocean cyclone season articles back in 2013.
As we entered the summer and the start of the Northern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons, several users wrote new articles for the FT project and brought several to GA status.
If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to Hurricane Noah, LightandDark2000, or any other member of the 2018 FT task force. WikiProject To-Do
Current assessment table As of this issue, there are 162 featured articles and 81 featured lists. There are 3 A-class articles, and 1121 good articles. There are only 172 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 671 C-class articles, 790 start-class articles, and 137 stub-class articles, with 1132 lists, and 0 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project. Project Goals & Progress The following is the current progress on the four milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
Storm of the month and other tropical activity for May, June, July, and August SoTM for May: Cyclone Tauktae Tauktae originated from a tropical disturbance, which was first monitored by the India Meteorological Department on May 13. The disturbance drifted eastward and organized into a deep depression by May 14. The storm soon took a northward turn, continuing to gradually intensify, and the system strengthened into a cyclonic storm and was named Tauktae later that same day. Tauktae continued intensifying into May 15, reaching severe cyclonic storm status later that day. Tauktae began to parallel the coast of the Indian states of Kerala, Karnataka, Goa and Maharashtra, before rapidly intensifying into a very severe cyclonic storm, early on May 16. Early on May 17, Tauktae intensified into an extremely severe cyclonic storm, reaching its peak intensity soon afterward. Later that same day, Tauktae underwent an eyewall replacement cycle and weakened, before restrengthening as it neared the coast of Gujarat, making landfall soon afterward. After making landfall, Tauktae gradually weakened as it turned northeastward, moving further inland. On May 19, Tauktae weakened into a well-marked low-pressure area. Tauktae brought heavy rainfall and flash floods to areas along the coast of Kerala and on Lakshadweep. There were reports of heavy rain in the states of Goa, Karnataka and Maharashtra as well. Tauktae resulted in at least 169 deaths in India, and left another 81 people missing. There were also 5 deaths reported in Pakistan. The storm displaced over 200,000 people in Gujarat. The cyclone also caused widespread infrastructure and agricultural damage to the western coast of India. SoTM for June: Tropical Storm Claudette (2021) Claudette originated from a broad trough of low pressure over the Bay of Campeche on June 12, which moved erratically over the region for the next several days. Moving northward with little development due to unfavorable upper-level winds and land interaction, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) initiated advisories on it as a Potential Tropical Cyclone late on June 17, due to its imminent threat to land. The disturbance finally organized into Tropical Storm Claudette at 09:00 UTC on June 19 as it was over southeast Louisiana. Claudette weakened to a depression as it turned east-northeastward before moving through Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. Baroclinic forcing then caused Claudette to reintensify into a tropical storm over North Carolina early on June 21 before it accelerated into the Atlantic Ocean later that day. Soon afterward, it degenerated into a low-pressure trough on the same day, before being absorbed into another extratropical cyclone on the next day. Claudette produced gusty winds, flash flooding, and tornadoes across much of the Southeastern United States. Claudette overall caused minor impacts along the Gulf of Campeche’s coastline due to the system stalling in the region as an Invest and a Potential Tropical Cyclone. Impacts were most severe in Alabama and Mississippi, where heavy rains caused flash flooding. Several tornadoes in the states also caused severe damage, including an EF2 tornado that damaged a school and destroyed parts of a mobile home park in East Brewton, Alabama, injuring 20 people. At least 14 people died in Alabama due to the storm. Total economic losses across the United States exceeded $350 million. SoTM for July: Typhoon In-fa In-fa was first noted by the JTWC as an area of low pressure, located east of the Philippines on July 14. Favorable conditions helped the storm to intensify, becoming a tropical depression, two days later and a tropical storm on July 17, being assigned the name In-fa by the Japan Meteorological Agency. Located in a weak steering environment, the system struggled to organize under dry air and moderate wind shear before organizing further. It continued to move mostly westward, strengthening into a typhoon and deepening quickly. The storm struggled to organize itself significantly due to continuous dry air intrusions and its frequent motion changes. On July 21, it reached its peak intensity, with maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 175 km/h (110 mph), and 10-minute sustained winds of 150 km/h (90 mph) on the system. Nevertheless, the system reached its minimum barometric pressure of 950 hPa (28.05 inHg), three days later, after passing through the Ryukyu Islands. As it entered the East China Sea, marginal conditions started to take their toll on the system, with In-fa weakening steadily and slowly, until it made its consecutive landfalls over Putuo District of Zhoushan and Pinghu on July 25 and 26, respectively, as a tropical storm. For the next couple of days, the storm slowly moved inland while gradually weakening, before turning northward on July 29. Later that day, In-fa weakened into a remnant low over northern China. The remnants continued their northward trek for another couple of days, before dissipating near North Korea on July 31. Typhoon In-fa exacerbated and played a part in starting the 2021 Henan floods, a flooding event that killed at least 302 people and dealt upwards of 82 billion yuan (US$12.7 billion) in damage, while leaving at least 50 people missing. The typhoon itself killed 6 people and caused at least $2 billion in damages.
Member of the month (edition) – Destroyeraa Destroyeraa joined Wikipedia as an IP editor in 2018. His edits back then were sparse, mostly involving correcting typos and grammar articles in articles that he read. In 2019, he began editing more often, and he started editing articles on weather, especially those on storms in the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season. Although he contributed to those articles, his edits appeared to go unnoticed. On January 17, 2020 (January 18, UTC time), Destroyeraa created his user account on Wikipedia. In May of that year, he joined WPTC, though no one welcomed him for a month. Around this time, he co-created his first article, Tropical Storm Bertha (2020). He also began contributing larger amounts of contents to articles, in addition to creating new ones. In July 2020, Destroyeraa created an article for Hurricane Dolores (2015), which became his first GA later that month. By this time, he had become a regular WPTC editor and a key contributor, often updating the articles for various storms, such as Hurricane Isaias. As time went on, Destroyeraa contributed more content and built up his accomplishments. In October, he got Dolores's article posted to the Did You Know? section on the Main Page, and he got more articles promoted to GA status as well. He also started engaging in anti-vandalism activities, combatting multiple vandals and even some LTAs. However, he was blocked for a week for engaging in sockpuppetry. Nevertheless, after his block, Destroyeraa resumed contributing to various articles, and he also helped out with the workings of WPTC. In January 2021, Destroyeraa created the Cyclone Cup, a fun competition based on the WikiCup for WikiProject Weather users to participate in, in order to help encourage more article creation and the improvement of article quality. However, by March 2021, his school work caught up with him, and he was forced to take a WikiBreak for the next few months. In early April, Destroyeraa made the decision to retire from Wikipedia, due to a recent spate of drama and negative behavior on WPTC; however, after some off-wiki persuasion, he was persuaded to change his mind. In June 2021, Destroyeraa officially returned to WPTC. While he was a lot more inactive, largely due to summer assignments and real-life activities, he still contributed to Wikipedia from time to time. As of the publication of this newsletter, Destroyeraa has created 24 articles and brought five articles to GA status. He has become one of the most accomplished WPTC users who joined post-2020, and he plans on continuing his work in the future. We wish him the best of luck in his future on Wikipedia and in his studies at school, and we hope to continue seeing him around here. New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! Thank you, TropicalAnalystwx13, MarioJump83, DachshundLover82, and Cyclone Toby TropicalAnalystwx13 left Wikipedia in September 2020 without notice. He was one of the most prominent content contributors within the past decade, and he also welcomed some of the other users when they joined. Within the past few months, MarioJump83 went into semi-retirement, and both DachshundLover82 (previously known as Robloxsupersuperhappyface) and Cyclone Toby decided to fully retire from Wikipedia. These users made their decisions after suffering from a lack of interest in editing, a variety of real-life issues (including health issues for DachshundLover82), and also a lack of time. MarioJump83 was an invaluable editor who had made many edits and written multiple aritcles and GAs, and they also brought new users to WPTC, in addition to mentoring Chicdat. DachshundLover82 and Cyclone Toby were both seasoned article writers, having authored multiple articles and even promoting some articles to GA status. Each of these users were MoTM picks in recent issues of The Hurricane Herald. We wish them the best in life and hope to see them again someday.
From May 1 to September 3, a featured list, a featured article, and a featured topic were promoted: From the Main Page: Documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from May 1–September 3, 2021 in chronological order.
There is an article currently nominated for featured article status: Article of the Month: 2018 Pacific hurricane season The 2018 Pacific hurricane season was one of the most active Pacific hurricane seasons on record, producing the highest accumulated cyclone energy value on record in the basin. The season saw 26 tropical cyclones, 23 named storms – the fourth-highest value recorded, tied with 1982, 13 hurricanes, and 10 major hurricanes, in addition to one unofficial subtropical storm. The season also featured eight landfalls, six of which occurred in Mexico. The season officially began on May 15 in the Eastern Pacific, and on June 1 in the Central Pacific; they both ended on November 30. These dates conventionally delimit the period of each year when most tropical cyclones form in the Pacific basin. However, tropical cyclone formation is possible at any time of the year, as illustrated when the first tropical depression formed on May 10, five days prior to the official start of the season. The accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) index for the 2018 Pacific hurricane season was around 316 units. Broadly speaking, ACE is a measure of the power of a tropical or subtropical storm multiplied by the length of time it existed. Therefore, a stronger storm with a longer duration contributes more to the seasonal total than several short-lived, weaker storms combined. 2018 had the highest total ACE of any Pacific hurricane season on record, having surpassed the 1992 Pacific hurricane season. Tropical Cyclone Anniversary: August 29, 2005 – Hurricane Katrina On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 6:10 a.m. CDT (11:10 UTC), Hurricane Katrina made landfall on Buras-Triumph, Louisiana, before making another landfall near the Louisiana–Mississippi border, a few hours later. The storm made landfall as a powerful high-end Category 3 hurricane, with maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 125 miles per hour (201 km/h) and a central pressure of 920 millibars (27 inches of mercury). The storm had weakened from its peak as a Category 5 hurricane, due to an eyewall replacement cycle. Katrina caused the levee system in New Orleans to fail, flooding the city, and causing enormous amounts of destruction. The floods also ended up killing many residents of the city. In all, Katrina killed 1,836 people and caused an estimated $125 billion (2005 USD) in damages, making the storm the costliest hurricane on record in the United States and also worldwide (tied with Hurricane Harvey, without factoring in inflation), and also making the storm one of the deadliest hurricanes to strike the United States in the 21st century. My Experience on Wikipedia, by LightandDark2000 I joined Wikipedia as an IP editor on May 1, 2009 (May 2, if you go by UTC time). Although a couple of users encouraged me to make an account early on, I decided to continue editing articles from my IPs for the next few years. I just felt that I wasn't ready for a user account yet. In 2010–11, I experienced hounding from another user on some TV show articles, which made me withdraw from those articles for a while and briefly consider quitting Wikipedia. I registered my user account in May 2012, but I spent another year on Wikipedia as an IP editor, before fully transitioning over to my account in the summer of 2013. I also created my first articles in 2012. I pretty much grew used to using my account and decided to stick with it. :) In March 2014, I received an invitation to join WPTC, which I obviously accepted. I had considered myself a member of WPTC since 2012, but I didn't really know about WikiProjects, much less how to join them (otherwise, I would've joined much earlier). Since 2010, I had regularly contributed to articles. While I didn't have a solid grasp of how to cite sources at the time, I managed to contribute a good a mount of content, in addition to cleaning up spelling and grammar errors. As time went on, my article-writing skills improved, and so did my knowledge of Wikipedia policies. I will admit: I did have difficulty at times, and my temper got me into trouble from time to time. However, these mistakes made me more determined to better myself, and avoid the same missteps in the future. I also engaged in anti-vandalism activities quite often, which brought me into conflict with IPhonehurricane95 and his copycap, Lightning Sabre, whom can be considered the two most vicious LTAs that WPTC has had to deal with. In late 2014–early 2017, I largely moved out of WPTC into MILHIST, due to my interest in the recent conflicts involving the terrorist organization ISIL in the Middle East. I contributed a lot to those articles, though I still contributed to tropical cyclone and other weather articles from time to time. I had made some friends on-wiki by this point, including Master of Time and EkoGraf. In early April 2016, a small number of users were fed up with some of my edits and decided to launch a witchhunt in order to get me topic banned (or even completely banned, for some). While the case was eventually dropped, it was very disturbing to me and made me consider permanently retiring from Wikipedia. In August 2016, the combination of college work and stress led me to take a 3-month WikiBreak. I pulled a full exit and considered never coming back. However, I enjoyed contributing to Wikipedia too much (hehe), and during my winter break, I returned and resumed editing. In 2017, my editing activity gradually ramped up, and in September 2017, I returned to WPTC, following the devastating landfall of Hurricane Harvey in Texas. During my time in MILHIST, my citation skills had greatly improved. Once again, I regularly contributed to tropical cyclone articles, as well as articles on other storms and natural disasters, which I greatly enjoyed. I also observed the peak of the hyperactive 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, including the devastating landfalls of Hurricanes Irma and Maria. However, as I had noted before in some previous Op-Eds and elsewhere, I noticed that WPTC had stagnated, and had serious manpower issues. As we remained a rather small WikiProject for a while, it grew a little depressing at times. In December 2017, a combination of poor habits and overworking myself took its toll on my health and I suffered a severe burnout, and I was forced to leave Wikipedia until late January 2018 (a mistake I intend never to repeat). In 2017 through 2019, WPTC's membership slowly grew in size, a few of whom became very accomplished article-writers over time, and I met Hurricane Noah and others. I eventually acquired a number of user rights in order to help with my work on Wikipedia, including Pending Changes Reviewer, Rollbacker, and Page Mover. I continued tracking tropical cyclones and regularly contributing to those articles through the summer of 2019. However, in September 2019, I took an extended series of WikiBreaks through mid-2020, due to college work and real-life activities. In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic went global, and lockdowns ensued. During this time, WPTC began seeing an explosion of new editors, though I remained inactive on-wiki for another several months and missed out the first part of this growth (much to my regret). In July 2020, I finally returned to Wikipedia, during the appearance of Comet NEOWISE and the impending landfall of Hurricane Isaias. Through the remainder of the year, I gradually increased my contributions, though I had to cut back on my editing activity until December, due to college. During this period, I met some of our new WPTC members, including Destroyeraa, HurricaneCovid, CodingCyclone, CycloneFootball71, and AC5230, and I made new friends, growing extremely close to some of them. I became more involved in WPTC's work, and I also helped out some of my fellow users when they needed it. In January 2021, I joined Destroyeraa's Cyclone Cup, a competition he made based on Wikipedia's WikiCup. In the past several months, I've witnessed and experienced several tumultuous episodes on WPTC, but I toughed them out. I continued contributing to various articles during this time, and I also got my first GA, Tropical Storm Rolf, with assistance from Destroyeraa. (Yeah, I didn't have the confidence to attempt a GA before then, even though I probably had the skills to do so since 2017.) In the summer of 2021, my activities began to wane once again, as I turned my attention more towards real-life activities, taking a break, and preparing for the upcoming school year. As of this writing, I am currently in college classes once again. I probably won't remain a regular editor for more than a year (since I will be searching for employment by then) and I will likely be forced into permanent Semi-Retirement then, but truly I appreciate my time here. I've created at least 26 articles and I have 3 GAs, and I'm looking forward to more content creation in the near future. In closing, I'd like to thank my fellow editors for everything. When I first joined, I was unaware of the existence of this WikiProject (much less WikiProjects in general). I've had a rough start, but I've grown a lot during my time here, both as a writer and as a person. (I have to say, my time editing on Wikipedia really improved my writing and typing skills, which really helped me in school.) I've also made some good friends here. WPTC was also kind enough of a WikiProject for me to feel comfortable retreating to during times of trouble. I've experienced a lot here during my 12 years on Wikipedia, and looking back on it, it was worthwhile. Thank you all for everything, ~ LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) My experience on Wikipedia, by codingcyclone I first joined Wikipedia on May 15, 2020. It's been over a year since then, and I've definitely learned a lot and will continue to learn more about contributing here. When I first joined, I never thought that I would be where I am today. To those who have given me advice and support, and been all around lovely people throughout my journey here (you know who you are), to name a few, hehe, your generosity means a lot to me. You have seen me at my best and at my worst, and you've been there for me through it all. You're all very sweet. codingcyclone advisories/damages 05:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC) To start off, my wikistory isn't all that interesting, and I'm not as experienced or accomplished as the other members of WPTC, but I've been wanting to write an opinion piece, so here we go. I made my first edit the day I joined. I didn't understand the concept of WP:BOLD, so my first few edits were to talk pages to discuss what to do. I also did not know how to sign my posts. LOL. I was a bit naïve, and in retrospect, I did some stuff prematurely. Luckily, I never did anything that was too damaging to the encyclopedia at this stage. At this point, my 'better' edits were mainly typo correcting, and copyediting. My activity was sparse due to IRL stuff from May to September 2020, but by October 2020, I had found out about Twinkle, and was making more edits, mostly to revert vandalism. This led to a minor dispute with an IP after I reverted their edit, which, to me, looked like blanking. I was wrong in classifying it as vandalism, and I violated WP:DEADHORSE when replying a month later. I do think that both the IP and I were wrong in some respects, but they were certainly more experienced than me, and I was definitely mistaken in trying to continue the argument. I continued to fix typos and revert vandalism, until I saw all the neglected tropical cyclone season timelines on Wikipedia, and I started to fix them. I created Timeline of the 2013 North Indian Ocean cyclone season (very incomplete still, I'll get to it soon™) and brought Timeline of the 2019 Atlantic hurricane season to FLC (still needs a bit of work, though), leading to its promotion and my first little bronze star. I did my first GAR and helped out with the GANs of Tropical Storm Fay (2020) and Hurricane Paulette. I also helped start off 2021's Atlantic and Eastern Pacific timelines, and actually guided a new editor a bit. As of this edition's release, I'm helping the 2018 FT with timelines for the Southern Hemisphere. My activity is starting to lessen, since I'm going to be kind of busy IRL and I'm trying to manage my life more efficiently and other personal stuff, but I won't forget about Wikipedia. I'll always be here, fixing the timelines up. Semi-retirement, by MarioJump83 Hi! MarioJump83 here. You know by this point that I'm semi-retired, and you can see the farewell message above by fellow members. I won't give much clarification on why I have semi-retired in this newsletter, but I'm not fully gone just yet. As I am making this piece, I have removed the DachshundLover82 farewell message which I made by myself as they are strongly reconsidering retirement and became much more active recently, as well as changing some of my farewell message, but as you can tell from these, retirement isn't a sure thing. You can still edit anywhere at any time. I've got plans to work on Wikipedia in my semi-retirement like Cyclone Cup stuff and Spoken Wikipedia but here's a catch with a little bit of clarification (that's why I said "I won't give much" - that means I still give some clarification eventually): I feel much more restricted than I have ever was since I got my laptop on September 2020 (which led to the peak of my activity next month). I tried to sleep by day and night, but my sleep attempts keep getting disturbed thus leading to lack of sleep. And many more I won't tell for now - there's a lot more than this, but it is more private. I'll can give more about why I semi-retired, but only on WPTC IRC or contact me directly on Discord (you can search SMB99thx on WPTC Discord). By the way, this will be my final OP on Hurricane Herald, but probably not the final edit on Hurricane Herald yet. Thanks for giving me support, though, for helping me cope through mental stresses for all this time, which my family didn't give much thought about it, if not truly helping at all, since they are all about their business, AND as well as trying to get me regain interest on Wikipedia, but I don't feel like I'm going to come back on full speed this year. Not sure about next year, though. Tropical cyclone infobox images, by LightandDark2000 In 2016–2018, WPTC experienced a serious of vicious edit wars involving the main infobox image on numerous tropical cyclone articles, the most vicious of which was the Hurricane Ophelia (2017) image war. Most of them were visible satellite images Vs. Infrared satellite (IR) images that were slightly closer to the peak. This series of edit wars affected numerous articles, and they continued until the edit-warriors either stopped with their attempts at changing images or ended up getting blocked (most of those blocked were IPs who continued the edit wars). In August 2020–August 2021, a new series of edit-wars erupted over tropical cyclone infobox images once again. The largest of these newer wars was one that involved Hurricane Delta's infobox image. While many of those conflicts involved the same issue of visible satellite image Vs. IR images seen in the 2016–2018 edit wars, the newer wars also included competing visible satellite images that editors thought looked better than the original, for one reason or another. I have seen these edit wars affect multiple articles (though not as many as the older wars from a few years ago), but after all this warring, multiple WPTC users have grown fed up with it, including me. After various discussions on- and off-wiki, as a project, we have successfully moved more towards discussions first instead of edit-warring, though image-warring still crops up occasionally. First of all, I will say this to those who have participated in the image wars, and those who are inclined to do so in the future: knock it off. Consider this your only warning: If you have image-warred and you have been told to stop, if you do it again, there will be consequences. It does not matter who "started it" or who was "wrong". Edit-warring, especially image wars, are completely unacceptable. Not only are they unacceptable, but they are extremely stupid. WPTC has a set of image policies that dictate what kinds of images should be used in the infoboxes of tropical cyclone articles. While there is some wiggle room for interpretation, these guidelines should be followed regarding the infobox images. You can see the linked page for the image policies themselves, but I will list the most important points here:
Please consider these guidelines in the future regarding tropical cyclone images and any changes made to them. Editing on Wikipedia should not be stressful or filled with conflict. Instead, editing should be productive, and even enjoyable. We should all keep a level head and take a mature approach in all matters. Hopefully, together, we can make these image wars a thing of the past. ~ LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) |
LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Bishop Sycamore
Hi, just wanted to thank you again for your suggestion of Bishop Sycamore High School for In the News-it was an incredible, awful story! I did follow through and nominate it for DYK as I suggested, and it's passed. It should be published on the main page on the evening of the 20th in your time zone. It sounds really awful for those kids. Blythwood (talk) 23:25, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Temporary AP granted
Hi Hurricane Noah, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~TNT (she/they • talk) 22:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Granted for six months, lemme know when its almost expired and I'll review. ~TNT (she/they • talk) 22:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Page mover granted
Hello, Hurricane Noah. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.
Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect
is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.
Useful links:
- Wikipedia:Requested moves
- Category:Requested moves, for article renaming requests awaiting action.
If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! ~TNT (she/they • talk) 21:06, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I note for the record that I have done these two recent permissions changes after significant discussion with the editor in question. The user is trusted and understands policy on page moves, and I am going to be working closely with them/WP:WPTC to ensure that their local backlog is addressed with due care and attention. Many thanks ~TNT (she/they • talk) 21:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime: I will take it easy to start off per your recommendation and make sure I am doing things correctly when moving (checking in with experienced PMs or admins). I will work on cutting down the weather draft backlog before doing anything else. NoahTalk 23:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Cyclone Fakir
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Cyclone Fakir you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Destroyeraa-alt -- Destroyeraa-alt (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Cyclone Fakir
The article Cyclone Fakir you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cyclone Fakir for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Destroyeraa-alt -- Destroyeraa-alt (talk) 20:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Tagging pages for speedy deletion G13
Hello, Hurricane Noah,
Please review WP:G13. Drafts can only be tagged CSD G13 after it has been at least six months since the last human edit. So, if you tagged a page today, the last edit would have to be April 3/4, 2021, depending on where you live. Not June, not July, but April. And if a draft is mistakenly tagged too early, it can be then tagged six months from today unless someone else edits the page in the intervening six months. There are other conditions that apply if you are tagging pages in User space but this is the only one for pages in Draft space.
If you have questions about this, just ask on my talk page or go to the Teahouse. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Liz: A draft being entirely blank for multiple months can't be deleted unless it is 6 months without a edit? Also, the template descriptions for g13 confusingly state "last constructive edit". That typically doesn't mean every edit counts, such as routine housekeeping. The reason I tagged such pages was as a result of those templates for G13. The only edits were routine procedures such as declining an AfC to remove it from the backlog, which wouldn't be a constructive edit. I would recommend changing those templates to explicitly state last human edit rather than last constructive edit. NoahTalk 12:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 10, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 10, 2021. Sorry about the late notice. Congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC) on behalf of Jimfbleak
Thank you today for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)