User talk:HardBoiledEggs/Archive 1

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Thanks for the note - to alter the look of your signature go to "My Preferences" tab and then go to the signature section and edit the look of your siganure in the box available. To get mine i have entered [[User:Brookie|'''Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere! ''']] [[User talk:Brookie|(Whisper...)]] .

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Bad date

Any idea why edit] shows up as the 19th and not the 20th? Vegaswikian (talk) 02:58, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

The bot operates on a different timezone. I've manually adjusted the bot's timezone to line up with the timezone the bot previously operated in, but now that it is up and running I'll try and line it up with server time. Thanks for letting me know. --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 17:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

RM-bot minor fault

Thanks for your bot work. This is what i added as the tail of talk:Elk (disambiguation)#Move discussion in progress (re a perhaps 9-months-obsolete message):

The link above is correctly coded but (unhelpfully, since it is unlikely to fall in the middle of the browser's display of the WP-page's text, until more sections are added) piped to conceal the full page&section title, Talk:Elk#Requested move.

In that case, a section entitled "Move request" is now the first heading on the screen, and the heading

Please continue this discussion at Talk:Red Deer - the above text has been copied to there

could easily have fallen at the top of the page rendering before i started adding text in late sections below that link. Not the most confusing thing on WP, but since such sections start so short, and almost never get lengthened by responses, it may make reconsideration of the bot's wording worthwhile. I appreciate your efforts.
--Jerzy•t 07:38, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm afraid I'm not sure I fully understand the issue here - what's the impact of the move notice falling at the top of the page rendering? Perhaps you could upload a screenshot of what you're seeing. Thanks, Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 17:26, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, i should probably learn how to do screenshots! But it wouldn't help that much, and in any case, for now, let me try again: I don't know whether you mean the move notice the bot placed on talk:Elk (disambiguation), or the one on talk:Elk that it links to, and my concern is about the fact that the talk:Elk section title usually does not fall at the top.

On a long page (except on the last screenful), section links work beautifully -- clicking on the link causes display of the targeted section heading as the first line of wiki-text -- like a flashing neon sign saying "start reading here". Altho my example is the end of a long page, the problem is equally clear, and easier to describe, on a fractional page with multiple sections: the user is given no cue which section they linked to, bcz the start of the wiki page is the start of the display, even if the link did specify a section. Thus the user is helped if they have read the target-section title in or adjacent to the link, instead of having been deprived of the info by hiding the section link behind the piping.

The bot's link, at the time when most of its use takes place, points to the last section of the target page. Until the target section is longer than the height allocated for the wiki-text, part of any last preceding section will be displayed at the top, and if the preceding sections are short enuf, one or more non-target headings will be displayed. In the worst case, a non-target heading will fall at the top of the page.

Yes, they can hover the link to see target info, or read the browser's URL field on the target page, but we should be welcoming the users whose eyes glaze over before they reach the first slash, and bad user-interface design justly invites the assumption by users that such user initiative will be good energy thrown after bad.
If that's still not clear, please ask me a specific question.
--Jerzy•t 20:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I understand you now. I'd rather not remove the piped title, but perhaps I could reword it as 'discussion in progress at ((Talk:Elk - Requested move))' so that the section heading is clear but the notice still flows. Thoughts? --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 11:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Great, and i sympathize with that concern. My own taste is for English, say

the "Talk:Elk" page, in its "Requested move" section

but that's a minor difference where i both respect your autonomy and trust your judgment more than my own.
Thanks!
--Jerzy•t 11:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll find something reasonable that suits and it can always be improved. Thanks for taking the time to raise this. --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 15:43, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Timing of runs

We really need to get the bot running every 15 minutes starting at the top of the hour. Going several hours without updates is not acceptable. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. The several hour delay on the 29th is worrying, but it seems it hasn't been repeated since. The bot currently seems to update about once every hour, and I'm working on improving that right now. Updates may be sporadic over the next couple of hours while I trigger the bot manually but I'm hoping to get it to 3-4 updates per hour. --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 06:31, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why there'd be such a delay. Why isn't it operating on crontab or a similar scheduler? hare j 08:21, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

It is - cron job setup for 15 minute intervals - but some of the API calls were timing out. I think I've found a solution (to the updates, though not the API timeouts); we'll have to let it run for a few days to see how it goes. --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 08:29, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

OK, we will see how that works. One other old problem that I don't have all of the details on. If a user lists a user page and it winds up at the bottom of the list due to an error, fixing the errors can cause the listing to disappear for a few runs before it reappears. This does not apparently happen with regular namespace pages. You may want to keep your eyes open for that. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikilink to other sites

To link to a different wiki, such as Turkish WP, put a colon after the opening brackets:

[[:tr:Main Page]] shows as tr:Main Page. Andreas ^(T) 13:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I figured there was some syntax I was missing but couldn't figure it out. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 15:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

RMbot

Thanks for taking over. RM would be a mess without your help. I wanted to let you know that there is discussion of another bot that may or may not affect RMbot. Your input is appreciated. Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KuduBot 4. Thanks again, Cliff (talk) 19:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Missed page?

Hi. I wonder if the bot missed Talk:DØ experiment? (ref. Wikipedia talk:Requested moves#RM bot update) Or maybe it happened because I did't subst the template right away? - Soulkeeper (talk) 20:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm looking into this now. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 04:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I've found the offending diff. Still exploring why the bot did this. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 05:05, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Found it: diff. The page was initially listed at requested moves quite quickly and without issue, but was then removed after that edit. I think you actually had the template substitution correct on your first attempt. When you substituted Template:Requested move, it includes Template:Requested move/dated without subst. This is intentional, and the bot doesn't expect people to subst the /dated template. The template's instructions may be a bit ambiguous here - or perhaps the /dated template itself is named ambiguously. In any case, I hope this answers your question. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 05:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I eventually substed it because the fine print on the bottom of the template itself (as it's displayed on the talk page) explicitely says "Do not simply add this template to page-move requests; instead, use {{subst:Requested move}} or {{subst:move-multi}}." Anyway, I guess I should manually re-list the page at Wikipedia:Requested moves. - Soulkeeper (talk) 08:44, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

"Do not attempt to edit this list manually;" a hidden comment on Wikipedia:Requested moves says. Ok, I give up. - Soulkeeper (talk) 15:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, those instructions on the template are a bit out of place, because by the time you see them, you may have (as you had in this case) correctly followed the instructions. The instructions could be read as suggesting a second subst of the /dated template, which is incorrect. You need to subst Template:Requested move, as you first did, but not Template:Requested move/dated, as you later did. If you redo what you had done initially - just subst Template:Requested move - you should be fine. The bot seems to be otherwise operating normally. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 16:30, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit: apologies if I'm not being sufficiently clear. When you first placed that requested move discussion, the code you used was {{subst:Requested move|new title}} (which leads to this result), but perhaps you don't recall substing that. That was correct. That added a {{Requested move/dated}} which is intended to sit there unsubsted, but you later did a second subst by changing that to a {{subst:Requested move/dated}} (which does this). The bot added the article after the first subst and removed it after the second subst. The template simply wants to make sure you {{subst:Requested move|new title}} and not {{Requested move|new title}}, and I'll try to edit the template so that it doesn't display that text if you have already substed it. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 16:39, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

RM refactoring

Hi there - you requested a note if/when I tried refactoring the RM page, which I just did. I created two new pages: Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical, and split content from the main page and the /Header subpage over to them, along with changing "uncontroversial" to "technical". Let me know if I messed something up. Thanks! Dohn joe (talk) 23:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Everything looks okay, and I like what you've done with the page. The bot doesn't generally edit the Requested moves page in any case, except to add or remove that backlog template, and from what I can see that shouldn't be impacted by your restructure. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 01:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Good to know that it'll work - and I'm glad you like how it turned out! Dohn joe (talk) 02:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Bad bot

This edit was clearly a mistake. I've had a look and can't find anything obvious that caused it. Might be a new request that's caused it but that's hard to track down seeing as how the bot hasn't listed anything. Dpmuk (talk) 14:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

It just did the same thing again here. Station1 (talk) 04:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know and for reverting those bad edits. I'm looking into this immediately. At a glance, the bot seems to have a complete list for Current Discussions stored, ready for the next update cycle, so this does seem to be intermittent. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 05:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I've just done a manual run and the bot is in a clean state at the moment. I'm still investigating why it listed no results that time. The issue may simply be a timeout in the API request for transclusions of the requested moves template. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 06:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I still haven't found the issue and I need to go to sleep. If the bot malfunctions, please feel free to ask for it to be blocked. I'll have another look in the morning. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 06:18, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

This has happened before when Harej was running the bot. See User talk:Harej/Archive14#RM bot. As I understand it, it's not a huge deal because it always corrects itself next edit. That said, Harej did say there was a solution, so it might be worth asking him. Jenks24 (talk) 09:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

The solution, as I understand it, is to make sure the bot never has an empty list. In other words, if the list of pages turns up blank, try compiling the list again. hare j 20:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the relevant code hasn't changed since harej wrote it. For now, I'll just implement that solution and add a sense check to make sure the bot has found some transclusions. I'll look into the underlying issue at a later date. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 02:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I've added a basic sense check and I'm testing now. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 02:22, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be okay now. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 03:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

RMBot and talk page notification

Can RMBot leave a notification to the first pair of indicated move names as well as the second/later pair in a multimove? It keeps coming up that people frequently (atleast 40% of the time) screw up the order, meaning something like Talk:List_of_Fame_(1982_TV_series)_episodes happens, where notification appears on the page where the discussion is occuring, and not on the related multimove page Talk:List_of_Fame_(1982_TV_series)_episodes.

65.94.77.11 (talk) 03:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this. I can see the issue and it's something that RM bot could fix, but I'm conscious of adding any more "logic" to the bot. Could we try amending the instructions on the multi move template and the RM pages to see if this reduces the occurrence? If that still doesn't help after a couple of weeks, I'm happy to dive in and add some code to deal with this. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 03:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

People don't pay attention to those, even when informed of the correct order. 65.94.77.11 (talk) 04:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I've made some small tweaks. Let's give it a couple of weeks. If there are still misordered move requests, I'll try adding the logic to the bot. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 05:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

RM bot suggesting a null move, perhaps because of quotes

Please help get "Occupy" protests moved to Occupy movement. I don't know what's going on with the bot. If you have the diff for the most interesting interaction I had with RM bot I promise you I'll try to think of a good suggestion. By the way, thanks for your hard work on this. It must be very complicated. Dualus (talk) 03:58, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dualus, I'm having a look now, but this appears to be appearing correctly on the current discussions list, in the backlog section. The listing that's appearing is:

(Discuss) – "Occupy" protests → Occupy movement – Per discussions at Talk:"Occupy"_protests#'Occupy'_movement_and_'Occupy'_protests and cited there, "Occupy movement" has more than twice the Google News hits, and no scare quotes unless the word is being used to mean something else. Dualus (talk) 19:37, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- List of "Occupy" protest locations → List of Occupy protest locations
- Template:"Occupy" protests → Template:Occupy protests

Is this correct? I'll go looking for the relevant diffs later and we can work out what needs to be done. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 05:26, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with the bot. The problem was that the original RM, Talk:"Occupy" protests#Requested move was never closed (I've just closed it now) and you're trying to link to Talk:"Occupy" protests#Requested move 3. I think this will clear itself up next time the bot runs. Jenks24 (talk) 05:35, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, I was wrong, but I think this will fix it up. Jenks24 (talk) 23:19, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

In any event, it appears that the page has since been moved and a new move request to Occupy Wall Street movement has been created. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 14:47, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. At the time I was not sure whether I was having problems with quotes or other syntax or the bot was, and my recent RM from History of the world to Human history seems to be okay. Thanks again. Dualus (talk) 04:27, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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James I article title change

Request to close the discussion at Talk:James I of England. Suggested discussion time limit almost doubled and clear consensus is reached. Thank you. Mugginsx (talk) 12:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your messages re: this move request, and apologies for the delay. I understand Brendandh has since closed the discussion to your proposed compromise title. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 17:22, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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RM Bot bug?: not recognizing IPA signatures

Examining Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions#Time could not be ascertained shows that RM Bot seems not to recognize the signature in "discussed move" requests with an IPA-number user's signature. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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Multimove request notification

So, users are still messing up the order of multimove requests. Someone added one to the destination talk page recently, so the notification did not show up at the source talk page. Another person added it to the second source talk page instead of the first.

It would be nice if RMbot added notices to destination talk pages (for destinations that exist and aren't redirects), and all source talk pages (for sources that are not redirects).

76.65.128.198 (talk) 14:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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Another missing RM listing

The bot doesn't seem to have picked up on Talk:2012_Wikipedia_blackout#Requested_move either, although unlike the above missing listing, it's only been two hours... still, the template claims that it should be picked up on within a half hour, so I'm wondering if something is wrong? Xmoogle (talk) 13:17, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Missing RM listing

It looks like RM Bot has missed Talk:Costa Concordia disaster#Requested move. It's been days and it's still not on WP:RM. Would you please look in to it? Thank you. Selery (talk) 02:50, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Selery (talk) 03:48, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

A discussion that affects RM bot

HardBoiledEggs, there is a discussion that affects RM bot (talk · contribs) at Template talk:Movenotice. Please comment as to whether my proposal is workable. Thanks, D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

RMbot and improperly formatted multimoves

So... people are still listing multimoves in the wrong order, and RMbot isn't informing pages of the multimoves, it is informing the pages that have the move discussion of the multimove instead... people just don't read the instructions about which page to place first. I'd suggest the easiest fix is to just inform all the pages involved in a multimove that a move has been requested. Since it already informs the page where the discussion is taking place that the discussion is taking place, double posting isn't an issue as it does that already. (discussion at talk:source2; RMbot notice at Talk:source2; talk:source1 missing any informative notice and also not having the discussion section)

And as some people also only list one pair in a multimove request (source1/target1)... it might also be a good idea to place a notice on all target page talk pages as well.

Example at: Talk:Charlotte_Checkers_(2010–) (discussion & notice) Talk:Charlotte_Checkers (no discussion or notice)

70.24.251.194 (talk) 08:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Slightly crazy

When a RM is on a talk page and the bot insists on there being a new section pointing to the RM, right under the RM section. And doesn't remove that notice when the RM closes either. Can this be tweaked? Rich Farmbrough, 00:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC).

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RMBot and talk page notification

Can RMBot leave a notification to the first pair of indicated move names as well as the second/later pair in a multimove? It keeps coming up that people frequently screw up the order, leaving a situation like that found at Talk:Anthony the Great, where the notification shows up on the discussion page, and the other page Talk:Saint Anthony does not receive notification. (I added the notification on that page)

70.24.247.54 (talk) 08:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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RMbot and notifying destinations something wants to take its place

For things like Talk:General Nutrition Centers, where a multimove is not requested, but clearly, a displacement of a page to a second location, so that the current page can move there, there should be notification provided at the destination page. RMbot currently doesn't inform pages that exist that something wants to take its name. This seems like it should happen, since it is a multimove request that is improperly formatted. 70.24.247.54 (talk) 04:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

RM Bot bug?: not recognizing IPA signatures

Examining Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions#Time could not be ascertained shows that RM Bot seems not to recognize the signature in "discussed move" requests with an IPA-number user's signature. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not surprised that the bot can't handle IPA -- as a result of the different libraries and tools used in the bot, I'm not sure I'll be able to update all the routines to support IPA from start to finish. I'll look into this but I'm afraid I can't promise a solution. --Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 15:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 February 2012

Special report: Fundraising proposals spark a furore among the chapters

News and notes: Foundation launches Legal and Community Advocacy department

In the news: Scholars and spindoctors contend with the emergent wikiorder

In focus: Skirmishes in the 'great sectarian war of the Internet'

WikiProject report: WikiProject Stub Sorting

Featured content: The best of the week

Arbitration report: Betacommand 3 closed, proposed decision in Civility enforcement, AUSC candidates announced

Technology report: January sees prototype new geodata API; but February looks to be a testing time for top developers

The Signpost: 20 February 2012

Special report: The plight of the new page patrollers

News and notes: Fundraiser row continues, new director of engineering

Discussion report: Discussion on copyrighted files from non-US relation states

WikiProject report: WikiProject Poland

Featured content: The best of the week

Arbitration report: Civility enforcement closed, proposed decision in TimidGuy, two cases remain open

Technology report: Major strands of development cycle coalesce as 1.19 is deployed to first wikis

The Signpost: 27 February 2012

News and notes: Finance meeting fallout, Gardner recommendations forthcoming

Recent research: Gender gap and conflict aversion; collaboration on breaking news; effects of leadership on participation; legacy of Public Policy Initiative

Discussion report: Focus on admin conduct and editor retention

WikiProject report: Just don't call it "sci-fi": WikiProject Science Fiction

Featured content: By plane, by ship, and by stagecoach: Featured content goes trekking this week

Arbitration report: Final decision in TimidGuy ban appeal, one case remains open

Technology report: 1.19 deployment stress, Meta debates whether to enforce SUL

The Signpost: 05 March 2012

News and notes: Chapter-selected Board seats, an invite to the Teahouse, patrol becomes triage, and this week in history

In the news: Heights reached in search rankings, privacy and mental health info; clouds remain over content policing

Discussion report: COI and NOTCENSORED: policies under discussion

WikiProject report: We don't bite: WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles

Featured content: Best of the week

Arbitration report: AUSC appointments announced, one case remains open

Technology report: With the 1.19 deployment now (mostly) complete, developers consider possible "mini" deployment later in the month

The Signpost: 12 March 2012

Interview: Liaising with the Education Program

Women and Wikipedia: Women's history, what we're missing, and why it matters

Arbitration analysis: A look at new arbitrators

News and notes: Sue Gardner tackles the funds, and the terms of use update nears implementation

In the news: Britannica runs out of print as Jimmy Wales anointed UK transparency tsar

Discussion report: Nothing changes as long discussions continue

WikiProject report: WikiProject Women's History

Featured content: Extinct humans, birds, and Birdman

Arbitration report: Proposed decision in 'Article titles', only one open case

Education report: Diverse approaches to Wikipedia in Education

Technology report: Git learning curve steep but not insurmountable, plus a diff style we can all agree on?

The Signpost: 19 March 2012

News and notes: Chapters Council proposals take form as research applications invited for Wikipedia Academy and HighBeam accounts

Discussion report: Article Rescue Squadron in need of rescue yet again

WikiProject report: Lessons from another Wikipedia: Czech WikiProject Protected Areas

Featured content: Featured content on the upswing!

Arbitration report: Race and intelligence 'review' opened, Article titles at voting

Technology report: Bugmeister to leave at end of May, but developers keen to "chart" a path ahead

The Signpost: 26 March 2012

News and notes: Controversial content saga continues, while the Foundation tries to engage editors with merchandising and restructuring

WikiProject report: WikiProject Rock Music

Featured content: Malfunctioning sharks, toothcombs and a famous mother: featured content for the week

Arbitration report: Race and intelligence review at evidence, article titles closed

Recent research: Predicting admin elections; studying flagged revision debates; classifying editor interactions; and collecting the Wikipedia literature

Education report: Universities unite for GLAM; and High Schools get their due.

Technology report: A busy week: Git switchover, mobile site upgraded, and still time for three security releases

The Signpost: 02 April 2012

Interview: An introduction to movement roles

Arbitration analysis: Case review: TimidGuy ban appeal

News and notes: Berlin reforms to movement structures, Wikidata launches with fanfare, and Wikipedia's day of mischief

WikiProject report: The Signpost scoops The Signpost

Featured content: Snakes, misnamed chapels, and emptiness: featured content this week

Arbitration report: Race and intelligence review in third week, one open case

Technology report: Somewhere amongst the endless discussions about Gerrit lie details of hackathons, performance blips explained and more

The Signpost: 09 April 2012

Wikidata: The next big thing? An interview with Wikidata

Interview: Funds, fiduciaries, and the Foundation: the complex dynamics of scaling

News and notes: Projects launched in Brazil and the Middle East as advisors sought for funds committee

WikiProject report: The Land of Steady Habits: WikiProject Connecticut

Featured content: Assassination, genocide, internment, murder, and crucifixion: the bloodiest of the week

Arbitration report: Arbitration evidence-limit motions, two open cases

Technology report: Next Wikimedia deployment already in the pipeline and details of recent performance improvements

Talk:Loving_You_(disambiguation) problem

Bot alerting same page about move request: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Loving_You_(disambiguation)&diff=486807153&oldid=486806848 -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Requests of April 13, 2012, not listed?

I requested move in Talk:Perfect Strangers (TV series). However, I don't see today's requests listed there. You don't think friday the 13th is related, is it? --George Ho (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

RM bot is down. I've emailed the owner and left at message at WP:BOWN. Favonian (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard#RM bot inactive, I have unblocked the bot. It replaced the notice as in the section above, but that is far less of a problem than not having it running. —DoRD (talk) 18:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 April 2012

Arbitration analysis: Inside the Arbitration Committee Mailing List

Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Facilitator: Silver seren

News and notes: French language outreach, WikiTravel debate, and HighBeam reloaded

Discussion report: The future of pending changes

WikiProject report: The Butterflies and Moths of WikiProject Lepidoptera

Featured content: A few good sports: association football, rugby league, and the Olympics vie for medals

Arbitration report: Evidence submissions begin in Rich Farmbrough case, proposed decision in R&I Review

Technology report: MediaWiki 1.20wmf01 hits first WMF wiki, understanding 20% time, and why this report cannot yet be a draft

The Signpost: 23 April 2012

Investigative report: Spin doctors spin Jimmy's "bright line"

News and notes: Help-space revamp, WikiTravel RfC, and Justin Knapp scores a million edits

WikiProject report: Skeptics and Believers: WikiProject The X-Files

Featured content: A mirror (or seventeen) on this week's featured content

Arbitration report: Evidence submissions close in Rich Farmbrough case, vote on proposed decision in R&I Review

Technology report: Wikimedia Labs: soon to be at the cutting edge of MediaWiki development?

The Signpost: 30 April 2012

Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Consultant: Pete Forsyth

News and notes: Showdown as featured article writer openly solicits commercial opportunities

Recent research: Barnstars work; Wiktionary assessed; cleanup tags counted; finding expert admins; discussion peaks; Wikipedia citations in academic publications; and more

Discussion report: 'ReferenceTooltips' by default

WikiProject report: The Cartographers of WikiProject Maps

Featured content: Featured content spreads its wings

Arbitration report: R&I Review remains in voting, two open cases

Technology report: What Git means for end users, design controversies and pertinent poll results

Bot misbehaving?

This edit claimed to be adding a backlog notice, but all it did was to remove my page move request and add nothing. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 May 2012

Paid editing: Does Wikipedia Pay? The Communicator: Phil Gomes

News and notes: Hong Kong to host Wikimania 2013

In the news: What does Wikipedia call an expert; and untruths in biographies ... again.

WikiProject report: Say What?: WikiProject Languages

Featured content: This week at featured content: How much wood would a Wood Duck chuck if a Wood Duck could chuck wood?

Arbitration report: Proposed decision in Rich Farmbrough, two open cases

Technology report: Search gets faster, GSoC gets more detail and 1.20wmf2 gets deployed

The Signpost: 14 May 2012

Special report: Wikimedia and the "seismic shift" towards open-access research publication

News and notes: Finance debate drags on as editor survey finds Wikipedia too bureaucratic

WikiProject report: Welcome to Wikipedia with a cup of tea and all your questions answered - at the Teahouse

Featured content: Featured content is red hot this week

Arbitration report: R&I Review closed, Rich Farmbrough near closure

Technology report: Cross-wiki watchlist controversy; and is "go file a bug" really a useful response?

The Signpost: 21 May 2012

From the editor: New editor-in-chief

News and notes: Two new Wikimedia fellows to boost strategies for tackling major issues

WikiProject report: Trouble in a Galaxy Far, Far Away....

Featured content: Lemurbaby moves it with Madagascar: Featured content for the week

Arbitration report: No open arbitration cases pending

Technology report: On the indestructibility of Wikimedia content

Stop the bot please

Stop the bot please. -DePiep (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

this request only affects two pages, not the whole category. (no emergency button?) -DePiep (talk) 16:49, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks like Favonian took care [1]. -DePiep (talk) 17:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2012

News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation endorses open-access petition to the White House; pending changes RfC ends

Recent research: Supporting interlanguage collaboration; detecting reverts; Wikipedia's discourse, semantic and leadership networks, and Google's Knowledge Graph

WikiProject report: Experts and enthusiasts at WikiProject Geology

Featured content: Featured content cuts the cheese

Arbitration report: Fæ and GoodDay requests for arbitration, changes to evidence word limits

Technology report: Developer divide wrangles; plus Wikimedia Zero, MediaWiki 1.20wmf4, and IPv6

The Signpost: 04 June 2012

Special report: WikiWomenCamp: From women, for women

News and notes: Editors want most funding for technical areas, while widespread ignorance of WMF board elections and chapters persists; voting still live on Commons best picture

Discussion report: Watching Wikipedia change

WikiProject report: Views of WikiProject Visual Arts

Featured content: On the lochs

Arbitration report: Two motions for procedural reform, three open cases, Rich Farmbrough risks block and ban

Technology report: Report from the Berlin Hackathon

The Signpost: 11 June 2012

Special report: Springer's misappropriation of Wikimedia content "the tip of the iceberg"

News and notes: Foundation finance reformers wrestle with CoI

WikiProject report: Counter-Vandalism Unit

Featured content: The cake is a pi

Arbitration report: Procedural reform enacted, Rich Farmbrough blocked, three open cases

Technology report: To support or not to support IPv6, and why knowing when this report was last updated might be getting easier

The Signpost: 18 June 2012

Investigative report: Is the requests for adminship process 'broken'?

News and notes: Ground shifts while chapters dither over new Association

Discussion report: Discussion Reports And Miscellaneous Articulations

WikiProject report: The Punks of Wikipedia

Featured content: Taken with a pinch of "salt"

Arbitration report: Three open cases, GoodDay case closed

Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

The Signpost: 25 June 2012

Op-ed: A call for editorial input in developing new Creative Commons licensing

News and notes: "Mystical" Picture of the Year; run-up to Wikimania DC; RfA reform 2012

In the news: Wales enters extradition battle; Wikipedia's political bias

Recent research: Edit war patterns, deleters vs. the 1%, never used cleanup tags, authorship inequality, higher quality from central users, and mapping the wikimediasphere

WikiProject report: Summer Sports Series: WikiProject Athletics

Featured content: A good week for the Williams

Arbitration report: Three open cases

Technology report: Second Visual Editor prototype launches

RM bot suggestion - update wikilinks

I don't know if I'm at the right place, but could the RM bot update wikilinks after an approved move request?

Specifically, after the A -> A' move request has been approved, could the bot search through the What Links Here of page A and go through those pages (maybe just article pages? there probably should be some rules) and update the wikilinks to A'? Strafpeloton2 (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

RM bot inactive

For some reason RM bot is inactive since 07:50, 30 June 2012. Could you do something about this? Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 03:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I emailed HBE yesterday, but so far there hasn't been a reply. Curiously, the bot resurfaced briefly but then went AWOL again. Favonian (talk) 10:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 July 2012

Analysis: Uncovering scientific plagiarism

Op-ed: Representing knowledge – metadata, data and linked data

News and notes: RfC on joining lobby group; JSTOR accounts for Wikipedians and the article feedback tool

In the news: Public relations on Wikipedia: friend or foe?

Discussion report: Discussion reports and miscellaneous articulations

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: Burning rubber with WikiProject Motorsport

Featured content: Heads up

Arbitration report: Three open cases, motion for the removal of Carnildo's administrative tools

Technology report: Initialisms abound: QA and HTML5

The Signpost: 09 July 2012

Special report: Reforming the education programs: lessons from Cairo

News and notes: Russian Wikipedia blackout; WMF tools; Wikitravel proposal revisited

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: WikiProject Football

Featured content: Keeps on chuggin'

Arbitration report: Three requests for arbitration

Technology report: Optimism over LastModified and MoodBar, but change in clock time causes downtime

Talk:Current title for page 3

Please ask the RMbot why it keeps creating Talk:Current title for page 3 and tell it to stop. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 03:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 July 2012

Special report: Chapters Association mired in controversy over new chair

News and notes: WMF enacts reforms at Wikimania; main page redesign; 4 millionth article milestone

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: French WikiProject Cycling

Discussion report: Discussion reports and miscellaneous articulations

Wikimania: Young chapter shows experience beyond its years

Featured content: Taking flight

Technology report: Tech talks at Wikimania amid news of a mixed June

Arbitration report: Fæ faces site-ban, proposed decisions posted

RM page issue

Hi there - I haven't seen a new RM request posted to the page in nearly a day, and was wondering if the bot was working properly. Thanks! Dohn joe (talk) 16:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking the same. It's been more than 24 hours now. HandsomeFella (talk) 19:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is definitely not working properly. HardBoiledEggs hasn't posted an edit on Wikipedia since February, so may not be available for a while. I've posed notices to Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard#RM bot inactive and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#RM bot inactive –Wbm1058 (talk) 11:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I've added a notice at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#RM_bot_inactive. MatthewHaywood (talk) 22:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Has anybody tried mailing HardBoiledEggs? HandsomeFella (talk) 09:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I just did. I hope I wasn't the first editor to, but I don't use Wikipedia's email function very much Wbm1058 (talk) 12:51, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Well this is getting tiresome, no help from WP:ANI, WP:BON or WP:VPT. Surely there's someone out there who can sort this! There really should be a system in place to ensure users operating critical bots are actually active, to prevent this sort of thing from happening. MatthewHaywood (talk) 17:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, HardBoiledEggs. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

The Signpost: 23 July 2012

Paid editing: Does Wikipedia pay? The skeptic: Orange Mike

From the editor: Signpost developments

News and notes: Chapter head speaks about the aftermath of Russian Wikipedia shutdown

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: WikiProject Olympics

Arbitration report: Fæ and Michaeldsuarez banned; Kwamikagami desysopped; Falun Gong closes with mandated external reviews and topic bans

Op-ed: The future of PR on Wikipedia

Featured content: When is an island not an island?

Technology report: Translating SVGs and making history bugs history

The Signpost: 30 July 2012

Recent research: Conflict dynamics, collaboration and emotions; digitization vs. copyright; WikiProject field notes; quality of medical articles; role of readers; Best Wiki Paper Award

News and notes: Wikimedians and London 2012; WMF budget – staffing, engineering, editor retention effort, and the global South; Telegraph's cheap shot at WP

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: WikiProject Horse Racing

Featured content: One of a kind

Technology report: Talking performance with CT Woo and Green Semantic MediaWiki with Nischay Nahata

Arbitration report: No pending or open arbitration cases

The Signpost: 06 August 2012

Op-ed: The Athena Project: being bold

News and notes: FDC portal launched

Arbitration report: No pending or open arbitration cases

Featured content: Casliber's words take root

Technology report: Wikidata nears first deployment but wikis go down in fibre cut calamity

WikiProject report: Summer sports series: WikiProject Martial Arts

The Signpost: 13 August 2012

Op-ed: Small Wikipedias' burden

News and notes: Bangla-language survey suggests the challenges for small Wikipedias

Arbitration report: You really can request for arbitration

Featured content: On the road again

Technology report: "Phabricating" a serious alternative to Gerrit

WikiProject report: Dispute Resolution

Discussion report: Image placeholders, machine translations, Mediation Committee, de-adminship

The Signpost: 20 August 2012

Op-ed: Wikimedians are rightfully wary

News and notes: Core content competition in full swing; Wikinews fork taken offline

In the news: American judges on citing Wikipedia

Featured content: Enough for a week – but I'm damned if I see how the helican.

Technology report: Lua onto test2wiki and news of a convention-al extension

WikiProject report: Land of Calm and Contrast: Korea

The Signpost: 27 August 2012

News and notes: Tough journey for new travel guide

Recent research: New influence graph visualizations; NPOV and history; 'low-hanging fruit'

Technology report: Just how bad is the code review backlog?

Featured content: Wikipedia rivals The New Yorker: Mark Arsten

WikiProject report: From sonic screwdrivers to jelly babies: Doctor Who

Discussion report: Sidebar and main page alterations; Recent Deaths; Education Program extension

The Signpost: 03 September 2012

News and notes: World's largest photo competition kicks off; WMF legal fees proposal

Technology report: Time for a MediaWiki Foundation?

Featured content: Wikipedia's Seven Days of Terror

Op-ed: Dispute resolution – where we're at, what we're doing well, and what needs fixing

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

In this issue:

Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
Research: The most recent DR data
Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?