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Hello DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

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You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 02:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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Note to self

To sort out:

Civil MBE - oh, hello Adair, Adam, Adamson etc. Lucky people. Which list is right? DBaK (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I'm almost always in favor of letting the warnings go through and not WP:BITEing, but obvious vandal is obvious. -RunningOnBrains(talk) 05:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Precious

talk
Thank you for not living your user name, but talking to articles, talking to users in a helpful way (Kathleen Ferrier), getting new users started, talking to self, - all with disillusioned (= good) sense, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


Thank you so much. Replied at t'other end. DBaK (talk) 08:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I like "debitterment", matching Gott fähret auf mit Jauchzen nicely. Will look for a better translation of the title, should match Christmas Oratorio in spirit. But of course there is Passion also, called "he was despised" on my user, and I used the line not only for Jesus, if you want to follow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Ha, thanks. I will have a look. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

My edit in article Paul McCreesh

Hi! Thank you for calling me on my edit. I was unaware of the usage you point out for such rationale comments in artcles themself (not surprising; there's so much to learn). *sigh....* Please feel free to correctly reapply your comment. A bot I'm rabidly following around spotted your signature as something to be reverted. Sorry for removing your comment as well; I absolutely didn't mean to do a rude edit. Wishing you all the best and sorry for causing you this inconvenience. Fylbecatulous talk 12:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC).

Likewise, thank you for being the editor I encountered, instead of one who bites a newbie. I too am quite allergic to rudeness and all the dissention here. You kindly pointed out something I needed to know and more than likely saved me from later having my feelings hurt in a similar situation. Happy to meet you. Fylbecatulous talk 13:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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Illusion

I had an illusion: to see the Precious article (12 May) on the Main page. That may come true, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Looks like it will ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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Orbital

Just in case you didn't see it – someone else has posted since me – I have shown my support in The history:

(cur | prev) 08:36, July 3, 2012‎ Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk | contribs)‎ . . (41,542 bytes) (+4)‎ . . (Re- previous edit summary: I agree with DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered ... of course it is "orbital" and should be referred to as such here. "Ring road", really! +para break added to clarify meaning of "It") (undo)

All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end thanks DBaK (talk) 10:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Me too ... at t'other end ... also, visited and posted on Ring road ... okay? Any more? Cheers, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Replied at t'other end thanks DBaK (talk) 12:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 22:23, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Another kitten for you!

Thanks as ever for your much appreciated copy edits over at Embedded liberalism. I read your edit summary about not understanding it. You’re obviously well read and well above average in political awareness, so if folk like you dont understand my work Im a little concerned Im wasting my time. Ive tried to frame the subject more clearly in the lede, maybe its now more understandable?

FeydHuxtable (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the message and the advice. Im much happier now you've said your comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek :-) . FeydHuxtable (talk) 19:00, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
In economist's parlance, your excellent copy editing creates a "perverse incentive" for me never to learn the correct spelling of "consensus". At least its good for the Kitten economy FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Just in case you had not noticed

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Gareth Griffith-Jones's talk page.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks!! DBaK (talk) 07:34, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
RepliedRegarding my request to have the article deleted, it was my first attempt! I had the idea to do it early on Wednesday evening whilst undoing my revert. I had thought Douglas would have already done it. Thought I'd check the talk page, and used Twinkle from there! I have moved User:TenPoundHammer's section on my page into Douglas's for continuity. What happens next? Any further advice would be much appreciated.
Best wishes, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Replied at t'other end thanks DBaK (talk) 08:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
... and I to you, there. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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PLOS ONE

Hello,

Thank you for your comment, I am, obviously, new to editing wiki pages. My intentions for editing the PLOS ONE wiki page goes along with all PLOS collateral we have out on the internet for public consumption. Our organization has just gone through a new style guide change and have updated our logo from PLoS to PLOS. http://www.plos.org/new-plos-look/ While I understand the heated debate in the PLOS ONE talk section, what I am implementing is PLOS-wide and a neccessity. It was unintentional in changing the links to make them invalid, however I did purposfully attempt to change the logo to find out that I am not allowed to upload new images for another 4 days. Any guidance you could provide would be greatly appreciated, if this was the incorrect way to reach back out to you, I apologize.

Best, Marketing Communications Manager, PLOS Moverstreet (talk) 20:34, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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August Metro

Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Henri Cogan

Hello DBAK,

Henri Cogan was mainly a stuntman and fight choreographer. He usually played only tiny roles and his characters often had no names. If you watch these films you can easily miss his appearance if you are not given a description of his role.
Well, I took the filmography from the French Wiki article, checked which films have been released in English-speaking countries too and translated some of the role descriptions.
Cogan deserves a Wiki article because his work was pivotal for Eddie Constantine's success. Cogan was his boxing instructor and without this training Constantine would probably not have qualified for the role of Lemmy Caution. Later Constantine wouldn't sign a film contract unless Cogan was hired too. This has all been said in a contemporary German article: Zucker für den Affen (Stuff for fun)
There is even a photograph of Cogan "at work". My father, like so many of his generation, never knew Cogan's name, but when he recognised his face on the screen he could tell a big brawl was underway... Does any of that answer your question? NordhornerII_The man from Nordhorn 01:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC) (talk)

Replied at t'other end thanks DBaK (talk) 19:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
While I expanded the English article I also updated the filmography of the French version. When I wrote "habitant" I was a little tired because all this had taken more time than planned. Yes, I am really from Nordhorn. I work in Münster though. NordhornerII _The man from Nordhorn 22:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)(talk)
Ah oui! Well done!! Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


The Metropolitan - March

125th Pennsylvania Infantry

Since in various guises I assembled about 90% of this page I can confess that its usefulness is almost nil and I would relent to another's accusing me of essentially assembling a 'vanity page.' So when I referred to non-Americans having no interest in the 125th PA page, I was ridiculing my own interest in the page. Self-deprecation can diffuse hostility, except in cases where every word is being analyzed for an angle of attack.

There a very, very few living people reading Regimental Histories from the Civil War. There are fewer outside of the United States.

The oddness of the 125th's RH is how devoted the survivors were to an RH for a nine-month Regiment. The Regiment had several great minds among the survivors, and for some reason, they devoted large pieces of their lives to polishing and perfecting their RH.

My own theory is, they gave their lives (i.e., time) out of dedication to those who actually lost their lives. I'm self-aware enough to know that my own theories are simply more vanity. Another with a theory that a single source of estimating Civil War casualties has achieved "perfection" in this incredible imprecise arena has no awareness of his own folly. Actually, I'm self aware enought to know that this writing will be skimmed over for sources of abuse and not really absorbed.

My master's degree is largely statitics. There's a difference between a population parameter and a sample statistic. You assemble a sample statistic as an estimate of a population parameter. The greatest statistician of my lifetime said, "Parameters are unknown and unknowable." The average height of American male? It's somewhere aroung 69.5" The "perfect number" is known only to God because, as I typed, several men died and several others achieved adulthood.--Donaldecoho (talk) 10:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

replied at t'other end thank you DBaK (talk) 10:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Antietam

When you go to Antietam, there might be a man doing an impression of Color Sergeant George Simpson. He'll have a large 34-star flag and an 1850 Officer's Sword. He goes there to teach history, in general, and the 125th PA in particular.

I wish you could have been there when this one 12-year-old boy from Texas* approached. He was with me for more than an hour, and HE'LL be the one who will be reading RHs in the future.--Donaldecoho (talk) 10:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

  • I should confess: when I encounter Texans at Antietam, I point out towards the 'Great Cornfield,' and I ask them, "Do you know why you should be proud to be a Texan?" and followup up with "Out there, the 1st TX Infantry fought and received the GREATEST NUMBER OF CASUALTIES OF ANY SINGLE CIVIL WAR REGIMENT FOR A SINGLE DAY DURING THE ENTIRE CIVIL WAR!"

Jesperson's favorite, Busey, will promote the 1MN to 'Top Honors,' which I'm **MORE THAN** than fine with at a personal level, but I see more Texans than Minnesotans at the Battlefield. Since the North won the war Yankees are generally complacent and uninterested.

Somebody from Alabama asked me directly in the presence of her 8-year-old son, "Was the Civil War REALLY about slavery?" I choked back my truest feelings and answered, "That's a matter of opinion, Mam. Whose opinion do you want?"

To reflect my truest feelings, I'll quote verbatim Lincoln from memory,

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. And under a just God cannot long retain it." April 6, 1859 in a letter to Henry Pierce.

I should also mention that I do this on Saturdays without pay of my own volition. I have no sanction or endorsement from the NPS.

Now that I think about it, it would be more convenient to do Color Sergeant Roland Morris of 13MA at Gettysburg. Gbg is closer and I would be less pissed off about Jesperson and ICARUSPHOENIX's BS while I'm doing it.

--Donaldecoho (talk) 00:26, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Off

As the page header suggests, I am off WP for a few days. Best wishes to all, DBaK (talk) 10:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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RE: September 2012

"Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia and the articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to Yolo County, California. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, try the sandbox, where you can write practically anything you want. DBaK (talk) 22:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)"

That's a very nice thing to say, thank you! Ilovdedyoupiggy (talk) 01:28, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end thanks. DBaK (talk) 07:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Got off on the wrong foot

Sorry I think we got off on the wrong foot, I apologise for any offence caused, but I wouldn't mind having an enlightened debate on the topic with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justgravy (talkcontribs) 10:43, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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October Metro

I'm sorry I missed September but I was rather busy. Enjoy. Simply south...... wearing fish for just 6 years 23:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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With tea

so nice of you to serve muffins with my (or rather her) tea ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Ha, Gerda, you never fail to make me smile: that was a good catch. Thanks, but actually it's not so much my being nice as hoping that she is going to save me from premature madness ... :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Now you made me smile, thank you! I hope she will save ... - While it was rather easy to tell you that you are an awesome Wikipedian (12 May), telling her was not so, and I could not do it during the election - certainly not sure if it would help or the opposite ;)
ps: I miss PumpkinSky, again, on top of the one she offered tea - how do you like my red cat? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I always find it a bit sad when we lose editors; I don't feel as if I will ever understand the dynamics of this place. Sorry, I am missing the point totally about he red cat - please enlighten me! (I am aware that if I was a proper person I could figure it out but asking you may be quicker!) cheers DBaK (talk) 10:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I enjoy puns, cat as category, on my user ;) - close to the red cat, under "workshop", you find the dynamics, #1 "pride and prejudice", #2 "RfA" (termed an attack page in the middle of it), - my disillusioned answer: the red cat ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I see, thank you very much! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 10:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Don't only look at the dynamics, there's "hope" and "history" also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
:) DBaK (talk) 11:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Mid Dec Metro

Sorry this edition is so late. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 11:44, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for revert of my talk page. Looks like the image has been deleted from Commons now. Keith D (talk) 13:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome, and I'm glad to hear it. Someone with too much time on their hands, I fear. Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

For the while

with you with a bish wish, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!! :) DBaK (talk) 09:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Seasons greetings and thanks

for sorting out my half-baked efforts at SPI. Not something I have needed to get involved with before.--Charles (talk) 17:53, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Christmas

Wishing everyone a very happy Christmas (or other seasonal and/or religious jollity). Hope you have an excellent day. With best wishes DBaK (talk) 02:36, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. I am intrigued by your edit summary "I thought we were not supposed to do that any more", but am not quite sure what we are not supposed to be doing. Any clues? Regards. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry, I should have been much clearer. Thanks you very much for asking. What I think we are not supposed to do is things like:
    • Temple Fortune Railway Station is a railway station at Temple Fortune
    • The Ruritanian Bald Tiger is a hairless tiger ...
    • A High-Pitched Vuvuzela is a vuvuzela of high pitch ...
in other words (and I think there is a proper policy and info on this somewhere could I but find it), if the article title says what the thing is, the lead doesn't have to contort itself to say it again in order to get a "The X is a YZ" type of first sentence out of it. So where it previously said "The River Rother is a river" (try saying that quickly several times when you've had a few) it now doesn't do that bit of definition, but just plunges on with the fact that it flows, which seems a jolly good thing for both the river and the article to do. No information is lost but the first sentence reads more comfortably, I feel. I think that when Wikipedia started getting larger and more formal there was a bit of a tendency to feel that you had to say "The X is a Y" as the very first thing and it's only more recently that people have started to move away, when appropriate, from adhering too strongly to that format. I hope this makes sense, albeit in a rambling and disjointed kind of way, and has helped. With best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:19, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Most welcome, happy editing! DBaK (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Whoops!

I owe you a drink. Sorry! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 20:30, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

HA! You're most welcome. Pint please. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 20:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 20:37, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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Answer about : January 2013

Thanks for notice! :) Carliitaeliza (talk) 14:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end DBaK (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

I knew they were using British spelling, but I was ignorant of "travellers"

Clifton Suspension Bridge I thought that was a typo. 'Nuf said. Sorry about that. 7&6=thirteen () 00:31, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end DBaK (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

For taking the time to list school shootings. I appreciate the work you put into the list, and assume that most can be verified. What a guy. Thanks very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.171.217 (talk) 06:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end DBaK (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you too!

I sense a kindred spirit and yes definitely a North York Moors crusade. Thanks so much for those links, I'm learning as I go along and guessed some of my etiquette will not be quite right yet. Cheers TrinaMc (talk) 21:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Reply - Anon account

Regarding this message you sent to my standard anon IP (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:217.129.65.198&oldid=533290717&diff=cur),

you're welcome, glad to help! Have a great weekend from Portugal, keep up the good work - --AL (talk) 15:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end thanks DBaK (talk) 16:00, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Afd close

No problem, Tá fáilte romhat. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 15:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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The Hoxton Horror

I didn't originate it; the scriptwiter Bertram Millhauser did, in the 1944 Sherlock Holmes movie The Pearl of Death, where he's also know as The Hoxton Creeper. (I have just added this to Rondo Hatton's article) Cheers! Chris the speller yack 16:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Ha! Absolutely brilliant - you do indeed learn something every day, as they say! Thanks for that ... cheers DBaK (talk) 20:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

New-found not newfound

Hello again, after bumping along together this morning on our good, old friend M25!
Just posted on this page and lo and behold you had posted on the same issue immediately ahead of me. I had not noticed until then.
Cheers!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Ha! It's a most amusingly small world sometimes, isn't it? Thanks for the note :) DBaK (talk) 08:31, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
It is, and I do enjoy the camaraderie.
Cheers!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 08:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Look

at my talk for a poem and a pic ;) - I thought the pic would be good on the Main page on Ash Wednesday, but not so Teh Community ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - good stuff. I am far too frightened to go along with the poem, but I recognize its value. :) DBaK (talk) 14:28, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Visit the author, perhaps ;) - or take the pic --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

You are more than welcome

...and my response was not fast; should have seen me in my heyday...I would have protected before you made the request ;). I like your username, btw, and can rlate to it, especially the 'knackered' part. Cheers and, well, happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Ha, thanks very much! Glad you like it. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Quinton Kynston

I saw this contributions list. Would you be so kind as to respond to a request at the help desk regarding Quinton Kynston at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Alter_page. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 08:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for thinking of me. In fact, my interest in QK is pretty much concluded now, although I do still watch the article. I'm sorry to say that I don't have anything useful to add to this gentleman's enquiry - it must be annoying for him, though, if we don't fix it! I have responded there but I'm afraid it adds little. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:57, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for responding at the help desk. Maybe someone else will find a source. Take care -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hope so - though I am not holding my breath just yet! Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

work= publisher=

Hello DBAK, quite a few people use |publisher= incorrectly, and I have seen this on a recent edit of yours too. If your are unsure which to use, please use |work= or |newspaper= only, as nine-time-out-of-ten this is more likely to be correct. For example |work=BBC News Online or |work=The Guardian; the metadata will then be accurate and will be formatted correctly in the right place and using italics. Hope that helps and happy editing, —Sladen (talk) 12:25, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, didn't know - I will read up on this. Thanks very much, and sorry for any annoyance I've caused. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Alison Balsom

Hi, I've edited the licensing information re-included the photo, I hope this is now sufficient. I represent Alison at EMI Classics and have changed the image at her request. The image is licenced to EMIClassics for press and promotion.

Best, Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasoliverjones (talkcontribs) 14:49, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Grocers

Dear DBK - I too am charmed by the fact that LdP was at one time a grocer, but the WP mores is that the categories should only be used where the person involved was notable for the quality involved - if Lorenzo had started, for example, the first grocery chain in NY, he might have qualified, but I understand he was in fact a notable failure in the world of comestibles. However I see that the article Grocer has a list of famous grocers, so you might care to add Lorenzo there. Do come to the music festival - we would be delighted to see you there. Best, --Smerus (talk) 10:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Musicians

Yes, I agree. I'll just do a bit more work on it before I shift it, because it will mean going around all the traps again. Oh, it's already after midnight in the Great South Land. Need more coffee at this rate!

Amandajm (talk) 13:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm planning on doing some solid work on a number of the cathedral articles. I've worked on Birmingham, Bristol, Carlisle, Chester, Chichester, Wells.... I got started alphabetically and went oK until I reached Canterbury. And while I m more familiar with Canterbury than any other cathedral, the state of the article was so appalling that I walked off whistling and did Carlisle instead. Then someone asked me to go to Chester and buy into the bun-fight that was going on.... I think it had to do with the bell-ringers (we bell-ringers get the blame for everything) . The systematic project stalled for a bit, but having been sweetly asked to write about the architecture of Wells, I couldn't resist, because it's just a teensy bit my favourite. By the time I got back to Canterbury, it was in infinitely better shape than when I left it. Amandajm (talk) 13:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the replies - interesting, and a great illumination of the wiki-process as it sometimes happens! Good luck with it all, cheers DBaK (talk) 13:41, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
BTW I really like you "Drive-by tagging is evil, wrong and lazy"!
There was an evil Australian bitch a few years back who cruised around the articles on villages and country towns deleting, tagging and leaving little messages for people in one pub, one creek, one general store locations telling them that their "family history" was irrelevant. She clocked up a huge number of edits without ever adding a useful sentence......
Amandajm (talk) 13:48, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello, DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered. You have new messages at Amandajm's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Yes - it's a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I always think that if you can't put in even the most basic effort to help, then just tagging and running off is really little better than graffiti. DBaK (talk) 07:58, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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Middlesbrough and Dunkirk

Hi this is historyman53. I noticed the article on twinning Middlesbrough with Dunkirk and started to research the claim of 25% of ships coming from Teessport. First let me apologise for trying to edit before talking. Never done this before and really had no idea about how to edit or protocol. Your source is the Evening Gazette article which is not verifiable. I've checked the Dunkirk small boats register. 1 boat out of 192 was built at Smiths dock. Not a single destroyer or corvette was built here either. Will continue to plow through the records but sadly I don't think we teessiders can lay claim to 25%. Certainly the ships didn't actually sail from Teesport so I assume the claim is that they were built up here.Historyman53 (talk) 13:47, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Note - DBaK changed sig for new user - it's in the history. DBaK (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the useful and interesting note. Please don't apologize - Wikipedia is a very odd place when you first come here and it takes some getting used to! The key thing is that we are now communicating. The best place to do this is definitely on Talk pages rather than inside the actual article itself. :) I'm sorry if I got a bit snarky about this - I should have been more tolerant.
Now, given that you've done all this work and that so far all there is on the pro-link side is the one journalist's article, I'm happy to agree that - pending any better evidence! - the claim should not stand. I would support an attempt to remove it or, at the very least, to initially challenge the verifiability of the source with a view to either removing it or marking it as needing a cite.
The way forward with this, rather than either just zap it straight out or comment on it in-article, is probably to raise it on the article's own Talk page at Talk:Middlesbrough and then we can make sure that what's going on is understood and agreed. Wikipedia editors (with some notable exceptions!) are usually pretty open-minded and helpful if it's discussed properly. I am happy to raise it for you, if you would like, or please raise it yourself and I can chip in with a comment if it seems helpful. When you do you might want to check if you are logged in or not - if you want to be identified at historyman53 you should log in as that, whereas in this edit above you're identified by your IP address only.
I hope this all helps, and please either let me know if you'd like me to take it up, or go ahead yourself - I have the page watched so I'll see changes. Thanks for all your efforts and best wishes, DBaK (talk) 08:20, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi again DBaK, I'm sure I'll get the hang of this eventually but it is far from straightforward. At this moment I'm not even sure wether I'm replying to you or not! Just out of personal interest I'll continue to check all the ships but it's getting increasingly involved! I have an abiding interest in most history and it grieves me to see generalisations become truth just by being repeated often enough. Robin Hood etc being a case in point. I Would be grateful if you would do the 'necessary' to question the entry. Must educate myself regarding all the etiquette and user name/ip address.Historyman53 (talk) 11:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Ha! Thanks for the note and yep, definitely not straightforward! You are indeed replying to me, and you are logged in, and you got the sig right with the four tildes ~~~~ so this is all great! Much more importantly, you've got the ideas and the commitment and have probably saved the article from error ... this is actually much more important than the technical stuff, which anyone can learn as long as they have nothing more worthwhile to do! :) We could talk another time about getting into it but for now, I'll just say yes I will be delighted to start on this for you. I feel it's the least I can do seeing as how I was a bit challenging at first. I am a bit busy right now but will do something with it as soon as possible. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:48, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I've had a go based on emailing the journalist and, perhaps more importantly, on what the council's own twinning page says. I hope it's an improvement! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

March Metro

Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 22:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Article Feedback deployment

Hey DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:35, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Written on Skin

DBaK - how I envy you! - I am stranded in Kiev at the moment and wrote the stub in frustration at missing the show - Benjamin is I think a wonderful composer. Hopefully I will catch WoS sometime, somewhere....Best, --Smerus (talk) 06:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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A note of thanks!

Thanks for your very helpful edits to A381 road, both the couple of minor ones in February (I had never realised that the mileage template could be adjectivised!) and particularly the one earlier this evening when you added 6622 bytes to the article. I find it incredible that an experienced editor would blank and redirect an article which had been peer-reviewed at B-class with not even so much as a talk note or an afd proposal, so once again thanks for your work, and also for the nice realistic perspective in the links on your userpage... Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 20:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the note, and you're welcome. Yes, the adjectival form in the convert template is good, isn't it? I was surprised by the redirection too, not least because it's from a very conscientious and busy editor whose work is superb. I think you may not have heard the last of this redirect but it would be good to give it a discussion. I think the article should be kept, but I am not sure about policy vs what I would, in this case, view more as common sense. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:38, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for that post! I'll look at those when I can. Hedgefall (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Peter Dinklage

Thanks for the notice. I have noticed your good work as well. If I am alert, I will check the revision history when reviewing most vandalism. I have been caught a few times doing what my previous correspondent apparently did on another article. He reverted vandalism only to restore previous vandalism by a different IP user. I have seen ClueBot do this at least once as well. Donner60 (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I now recall that it was a bit more complicated than just going back to a previous clean version. Some of the edits from at least two users may have been intended in good faith but they were awkward, even sounding pejorative. I kept the concept that his disease caused dwarfism but cleared away the awkward, if not pejorative, language. The main point is that I appreciate your notice. Donner60 (talk) 23:44, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end thanks. DBaK (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

What edit?

What edit was it? What error did I make? Ashbeckjonathan 13:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied at t'other end thanks. DBaK (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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April Metro

Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 20:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Citation problem

Oh, it's not your fault—the red error messages have only been introduced within the past month or so, since the citation templates switched to a Lua backend, so you didn't overlook anything. I should have poked around to find that option for the sic template rather than just stripping it out. Choess (talk) 23:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

I replied to you at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Symonds_(WMUK)#Wikimedian_in_Residence but to be honest the talkback template struggles to understand cross-wiki links... Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 18:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Ha, yes, I see what you mean about the template! Thanks ... and replied properly over there cheers DBaK (talk) 08:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

wonder why

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St Paul's Cathedral, London, is a beautiful cathedral

Hello. I saw you reverted a change I made to St Paul's Cathedral. Your message was very kind, and I thought unusual for Wikipedia, though I doubt unusual for you.

Please have a look at the discussion some users and I are having on my talk page about commas. I'd be interested to know what you think. Inglok (talk) 19:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Ooops. I may have to go and sit in the Stupid Corner for a while. Proper reply to follow, but for now I have reverted myself. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Vandal & revert

Re your message: No problem. Thanks for removing that useless message on my talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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Lewis Clive

Thank you for your comments on Lewis Clive; I have now responded on the Talk page. Is it in a state to be put forward for DYK do you think? Thanks. Nedrutland (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

On break

DBaK has had enough for the moment, and will probably be back sooner or later. Thank you and au revoir. DBaK (talk) 09:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

US/aesthetic/typographical punctuation vs "logical"

You're right that predominant US usage (or at least as far as the style guides would have you believe) is to put full stops and commas inside quote marks. Some editors here will tell you that "all educated people" in the US do this. I suspect that anyone that's written a computer program or even an HTML document or such like might have different impulses on that. Equally, some US editors seem to want to do it with semicolons too, so I'm not so convinced that actual US usage is anything like so uniform.

But in any case! In Wikipedia terms, this isn't actually an WP:ENGVAR issue, as there's a specific guideline to cover it, to wit WP:LQ. Hope that's of some assistance. 84.203.43.181 (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Precious again

talk
Thank you for not living your user name, but talking to articles, talking to users in a helpful way (Kathleen Ferrier), getting new users started, talking to self, - all with disillusioned (= good) sense, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 121st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

ps: did you know that I heard a mass by Vittoria on Ascension day at Christ Church, Dublin and an Evensong for the day two days earlier in St. Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, recorded for a broadcast, - remembering that a combination of the two choirs collaborated when "The trumpet shall sound" sounded first (and that I took the lead picture of that article, "Worthy is the lamb")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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