User talk:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Archive 3

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Archive 3

Please do not subst legacy course templates which need to be cleared up

As you did at Talk:Rwandan genocide. This course is long-gone, and the template should be deleted as per Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_10#Template:WAP_assignment. Substing it means we will have no means of tracking the instances that need deleting going forward. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

@Amakuru it is to be deleted after it is substed, as listed at WP:TFDH. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:44, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

No, the template serves no purpose at this point. The course mentioned was ten years ago and is long finished. The decision at the TFD was to delete it. — Amakuru (talk) 11:47, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Continued at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell#To substitute. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

That said Malnadach, substing them in place was not the intent. WAP assignment was converted to a 'message' template and then substed, which was the intention here, which is likely why it has sat so long at TFDH. I can see that was not clear anywhere. Izno (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Well it's hard to grasp intentions over the internet :-) If the regular TFD botops aren't willing to handle this, I can submit a BRFA to get this done. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:31, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

:)

You're probably going to want to replace the versions you already substed, whenever your discussion with Primefac is done. Izno (talk) 04:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Done for the record. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

@Amakuru, if you have a concern about substing them, the correct user to approach was the closer @Explicit, who listed it in the subst section at WP:TFDH. The likely reason is that a previous TFD for this template's successor was also substed, which I noted in my listing at TFD. Having subst and delete in the actual TFD is not required to actually end at a subst, and then delete, result. Izno (talk) 16:59, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ!

Happy New Year!

ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 16:59, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 16:59, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 03:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Sudden replacement with {{Infobox Japanese}}?

Template:Infobox television and Template:Infobox film requires the use of {{Infobox name module}} per their "native_name" parameters. Kindly raise it first to the linked templates' talk pages for concensus before going on an infobox change spree in TV and film articles. Thank you. Centcom08 (talk) 15:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@Centcom08 you could at least read the page {{Infobox name module}} before reverting many edits. I have restored them from your blind reverts done without due diligence. There is already consensus from TFM, more info at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell#Meta. Redundant parameters are being replaced with subtemplates as appropriate. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Sharad Yadav

On 15 January 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Sharad Yadav, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

About the Traffic Report

Don't feel the need to make that comment section any longer, but just wanted to acknowledge that we of the WP:TOP25 are probably not the best people to talk about India, living far from it (whether in America, Europe or New Zealand) and being a bunch of goofballs who among other things aren't above using song lyrics instead of proper write-ups. I always think if our approach compensating ignorance with irreverence might instead be insensitive. If so, I'm deeply sorry if what you read of our work in the Signpost soured your opinion on the whole newspaper (who at times even unearth people doing worse things with Wikipedia). igordebraga ≠ 01:47, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Your recent changes to various South Korea-related articles

Hi ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, you recently made changes to various South Korea-related articles, in particularly, the Infobox by changing Infobox name module to Infobox Korean|child=yes, however this changes causes issues to the Infobox presentation due to the subheader (Korean name) that was included automatically by Infobox Korean hence causing parameters (genre, based_on, developed_by, etc) that are part of Infobox television to be wrongly displayed as if it's part of the Korean name grouping which is misleading. I have reverted the edits you had made. While I understand your intention, you should temporarily stop your extremely speedy replacement till a resolution (which is to resolve the misleading automatic subheader) is put in place otherwise you're simply causing thousands of television/film-related articles that uses Infobox television or Infobox film to have their parameters misleadingly be grouped under Infobox Korean. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:32, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@Paper9oll What do you mean "as if it's part of the Korean name grouping"? They are not bolded unlike other infobox params. Do you really think people consdider genre, based on etc,. as beng part of Korean language? Infobox name module has long been deprecated and is set for complete overhaul. No wonder the merger has been pending for so long if every effort to replace it is reverted. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ Before and After, do you happened to see the differences? Fyi, Extraordinary Attorney Woo wasn't reverted by me but by Revirvlkodlaku hence it isn't just me opposing it. This isn't about common sense or not but about the presentation. Merger are perfectly okay if they serve the purpose without breaking anything including presentation in particularly Infobox presentation. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:48, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I do. That is how the replacement template is designed to be, grouping all the different scripts and romaniazations under Korean name. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ Yes I know, unfortunately this causes presentation issues which needs to be resolve, I had the raise the same issues on WP:TFD/H which I believe you're aware of, hence I would like you to hold on till there are further comments on how to resolve there. In my pov, it's misleading to have "Korean name" using the same before and after example as there's also "Production" and "Release" subheading in the Infobox. The merger (noting that the end result of 2017 TFD was merge instead of replace) should take into account the behaviour of Infobox name module and tune the destination template accordingly either by adding new param or adding some sort of condition statements. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 18:07, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

You think it is unnecessary, others think it is better and explicitly wanted the template that way. Anyway per my comments at TFDH, I'm done spending time on this. To anyone who might be tempted to carry out the TFD - just forget about it and spend your time on something more productive. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 19:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ I'm not sure, we are even on the same bandwidth. But I found a solution, which is to modify your replacement scripts to replace {{Infobox name module with {{Infobox Chinese/Korean|child=yes|hide=no|header=none| instead of {{Infobox Korean name hence it would have the same before and after presentation. I appreciated your hardwork and time spent, I have presented you a solution to the concern that me and multiple editors like Revirvlkodlaku has raised on, whether or not, you're happy with continuing using the solution is up to you to decide on, I can't force it on you if you decided to move away, not much harm (if not, no harm at all) whether it's merged or not. Thanks! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:27, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Paper9oll Thanks for that. Had a bad day IRL and when topped with many edits getting reverted it put me off, apologies for my rudeness last night. I'm a bit busy over the weekend, will go back and add those params with {{Infobox Chinese/Korean}} when free. @Revirvlkodlaku: are you okay with replacing them like this instead? ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:42, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ No worries, glad to see you accepted the solution. Keep the good work, happy editing! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, I'm still not clear on what benefit that kind of change confers to the infobox. Would you mind explaining? Sorry if I'm missing something that has already been covered in separate conversations... Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:12, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, so the original reason given in the merger proposal in March 2017 is that {{Infobox name module}} is inferior to {{Infobox Chinese}} and its subtemplates which covered Korean, Japanese and other East and South-east Asian languages with multiple writing systems and romanization conventions. They had the same function along with support for more options that Infobox name module doesn't have. At that point most usage of Infobox name module seemed to involve languages covered by Infobox Chinese and its subtemplates.

Having multiple templates providing similar functionality is unhelpful both for template maintainers and editors who would be confused about what to use when there are multiple options for similar things. However there was a delay in fully implementing the merger at the template level due to complicated coding involved. During this time there was a significant increase in the usage of Infobox name module for European, Middle eastern and Indian languages. These are clearly inappropriate for merging with Infobox Chinese. So what we are doing now is replacing the template at the article level by deprecating its usage for languages better covered by the Infobox Chinese family of templates, which would put them in Category:Infobox name module using deprecated parameters. Once we bring the number of articles in the category to zero, we would be removing support for these languages and retain {{Infobox name module}} for all other languages not covered by better templates. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 15:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

The page User:MalnadachBot is totally illegible

If you want people to be able to know what your bot is for or what it is doing, you shouldn’t use a ridiculous zany font or an absurdly tiny font size. It is entirely impossible for ordinary humans to read any of the text on the page User:MalnadachBot. –jacobolus (t) 05:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

I thought your name was familiar, just remembered you were involved in a recent dispute with me, casting aspersions and editing disruptively following which you were briefly blocked, as seen here and here. Opening a discussion at BOTN with meritless arguments about how mediawiki works and now this. Since you are obviously grinding your axe hoping something will stick, I am forbidding you from posting in my talk page again. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:23, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

jacobolus, sorry that you seem to be having a rough day. When I check the font size on that page with my browser's inspector, it shows that the font is rendering at 100% of the normal size for page content, the same as normal article text. If the font is rendering too small for you, I can suggest something that I do in my browser settings: go to Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Advanced, or something similar, and set the minimum allowable font size. It messes with the intended display of some pages when accessibility-unfriendly editors have set very small font sizes, but I find it helpful overall. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Not having any of your stylesheet's typefaces installed on my machine, I just get your regular fallback serif font, which makes it look like the page hasn't loaded properly. As this user is a bot, some people are going to be looking to that page for a straightforward explanation of the work that it's doing: I don't think that information should be served to some users in a hard-to-read decorative typeface like Samarkan. --Belbury (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I switched it to an alternate style which has only borders. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

This is a big improvement. Thanks. –jacobolus (t) 09:50, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Typeface on user talk archives

Might you consider changing your user talk archive pages so that the default typeface for the body text is used, rather than overriding it with a cursive-style typeface? I feel that it's more difficult to read large passages of text when they are set in cursive. Your consideration would be appreciated! isaacl (talk) 21:57, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Restored plain font. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks; I appreciate the change. isaacl (talk) 02:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

RfC on your bot

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I've started an RfC that relates to MalnadachBot's mass fixing of lint errors and deprecated HTML tags. You can find it here: Wikipedia:Village_pump (policy)#RFC: Clarifications to WP:COSMETICBOT for fixing deprecated HTML tags. Thanks. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 08:39, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

SheepLinterBot regexes for your bot

Are you using my regexes to fix font tags with your bot? It seems that it is able to fix a font tag with face wrapping font tags with color... (example)

Also your bot seems to fix font tags with uppercase A-F in hex colors... Your bot with your safe regexes initially didn't fix font tags like these. Sheep (talk • he/him) 16:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

No, I developed and tested them on my own. What I am using is similar but not as extensive as yours, I'm not comfortable using regexes for font with color outside link. About half of the regexes I am using were there before, with others added later. The most important change for now is to skip pages if it can't replace all font tags, something I didn't use when there was a much larger backlog before. Its easy for watchlisters to complain about multiple edits (ignoring options available to hide them), but the previous ground work done my the bot has made things easier for yours and Legoktm's bot such that there is a real possibility that we will have less than a million errors by the end of this year. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:28, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Introduced Div span errors

This edit and and this one introduced div span errors. Not a big deal, I'm about to fix them, but mentioning so that the issue can be potentially corrected in the code for future. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

When a block element follows font, I can replace it with div instead of span. However a look through this shows most of such pages have other existing bad markup. There are a few that can be handled fully but most have other Lint errors that has to fixed manually. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Request for bot visit to 500 Wikipedia talk pages

When you get a chance, can you please ask the bot to process font tags in these 500 pages? I am working on clearing Linter errors from all of the Wikipedia Signpost pages. Each of these pages is transcluded in a page in Wikipedia space and a page in Wikipedia talk space, so every error fix removes three errors from the overall list. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Done, along with center tags. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Stop visiting talk pages

Can you get your bot to *stop* visiting talk pages? It keeps editing the content of random people’s signatures, which is unnecessary, arguably improper, and adds spam to everyone's watchlist. –jacobolus (t) 03:57, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Bots should not be making this kind of edit. –jacobolus (t) 03:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

This is an approved bot that is replacing obsolete, deprecated code with updated code. Bots are approved all the time to make changes like this to a variety of pages, including talk pages. This bot currently skips pages on which it is unable to fix all of the font errors in a single visit, so you should not see it visit that page again to fix more font errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

The bot is spending all its work modifying people's signatures from comments left in 2008 (which, we might add, are perfectly fine HTML that renders as expected in every browser in existence, but just happen to violate someone's nonsense linter rules). Which is an absurd distraction. –jacobolus (t) 17:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

The <font> element is actually deprecated, not “perfectly fine HTML” (and in fact appears nowhere in the current HTML specification). Avoid using it, and update existing code if possible […]. Be aware that this feature may cease to work at any time.. Also: Warning: Do not use this element. Use the CSS Fonts properties to style text. —151.132.206.250 (talk) 18:28, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

They are marked as both 'minor' and 'bot' edit, you can hide them from your watclist easily if they distract you. Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SheepLinterBot for the same task was approved recently and one more is in trial, so you are likely to see more edits. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

This bot should be halted until it stops with this. The pollution of people's watchlists is abusive, and telling people to stop checking for bot edits is not an adequate substitute.

Cleaning up 15-year-old talk page comment signatures is something that is a waste of everyone’s attention, and arguably improper without the support of each user whose comment is being changed.

If someone's linter doesn't like font tags, stop running the linter on talk pages or fix the linter to stop complaining. –jacobolus (t) 00:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

I don't mind these talk page changes, but you (User:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ) should seriously consider asking MediaWiki devs to prevent users from introducing lint errors in their signature from this point on, and to automatically remove lint errors from pre-existing signatures. That way, these talk page changes can stop for good once the bot is done fixing all old posts. DFlhb (talk) 07:53, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

That is a great idea, and we have asked. So far, the MediaWiki developers have declined, saying that it is up to the English Wikipedia community to decide. See T140606 (from 2016; imagine if we had stopped adding signature-related Linter errors six years ago!), and T248632 (from 2020; see especially the links from the task description and from a comment dated 28 May 2020). Sometime in 2020, the MediaWiki software stopped allowing editors to save new or modified custom signatures with other types of Linter errors, and a small handful of editors sent helpful messages to a few hundred active editors with invalid signatures with instructions on how to fix them (see this talk page message for an example). That change has helped reduce the creation of new signature-related Linter errors on pages. If you want to start a conversation on VPR or somewhere similar about preventing obsolete tags in signatures here on en.WP, feel free to ping me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

@DFlhb: The vast majority of users have stopped using font tags in their signature upon request. There have been a few uncollborative users who have refused, but is a small problem. Most pages will indeed not need to be edited again, unless there are other major changes to MediaWiki. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:42, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Good to know. DFlhb (talk) 08:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Noticeboard notice

Hello ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, a discussion regarding one of your bot tasks is open at BOTN. Please see the discussion there. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 01:23, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Regarding this discussion, can you change your bot to assert the tag that @Legoktm created? I'm not totally certain how to do that since I also don't know how your bot works these days but I guess he can help. Izno (talk) 23:10, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I can if it is technically possible, I can't find any option in AWB to assert tags. Ideally this tag should be applied by the software so that Lint fixing by normal editors gets marked as well. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 02:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I discussed adding support to AWB with Reedy the other day and now filed T329136. I don't think having an automated tag is a good idea, the intention is to allow people to hide edits that solely fix lint errors. If someone is editing a page and happens to fix an error as well, it should not be hidden. Legoktm (talk) 04:32, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello, hope your 2023 is off to a good start! I see your username in my watchlist quite a bit, so I just wanted to say thanks for the work you do here at English Wikipedia and elsewhere. If you ever do translation work, I'd love to see the entry about me translated for knWiki one day! For now, thanks again and happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:09, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome Another Believer, thanks for your contributions to Wikimedia as well. Translation is

Done, see kn:ಜೇಸನ್ ಮೂರ್. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:50, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Very cool! Thank you so much. I had actually meant to type "konWiki", per your "kon-N" template at kn:ಸದಸ್ಯ:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, but an entry at knWiki is appreciated just as much. Thanks again and take care for now! :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Ah, Konkani Wikipedia (gomwiki) is a relatively niche Wikipedia that has few readers and even fewer editors. Most articles there are on topics that are of interest to Konkani speaking population, especially students. Kannada Wikipedia (knwiki) on the other hand has a larger reader base and has a better chance of anyone reading it. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:49, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

A pattern for the bot to avoid

This is a bit of GIGO that is easily fixed, but if there is a way to prevent the bot from doing it, that would probably help. I've never seen it before, so this might be the only one in 50 million pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:12, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, this search had only one other result which I have fixed manually. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:51, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Custom sig code may be needed for User:SRX signature

This edit went sideways and introduced a misnested span tag. It's a bit of GIGO, but the bot may need a custom pattern for that signature. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. I found 3 variations of their signature, which I have replaced without skipping if all other font tags in the page can't be replaced, since this also has stripped font tags. There are 4k+ pages with nothing or white space between font tags. I have set the bot to remove them such as [1]. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Looks good. I fixed all of the instances that I was able to find, and cleaned up a couple hundred high-priority misnested tags in other sigs while I was at it. Progress. Working on these XFD pages is bringing the total count down quickly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

A few wonky signatures

The bot's having some minor issues with Red Sunset's signature here (due to the staggered nestings, I'm betting), and Raaggio's signature here and here (although to be fair, Raaggio's was a junky mess before any fixes).

Mentioning so that the bot can be further improved. Thank you for all your beneficial efforts, Zinnober9 (talk) 07:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

This was because I ran it by overriding "skip if not all font tag replaced" condition for ~70 pages to replace User:SRX's sig in the section above. It would have skipped the page entirely in its normal configuration, leaving everything for gnomes or further specific replacements. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Ah, of course. I was a little surprised to see that it had attempted the staggered Red Sunset signature, and that it had skipped some other sigs on those three pages since I knew it was skipping pages it couldn't complete. That would explain why. Thank you for the prompt reply, Zinnober9 (talk) 07:30, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Page blanking glitch; bot stopped

The bot blanked a whole bunch of pages in the last two hours. It is probably not the bot's fault; I have seen this happen with AWB in the past. I have, in good faith, stopped the bot until the problem can be investigated. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Damn. Thanks for stopping it, I will go and revert the blanked pages now. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

I wonder if you can put a check into the bot's code before it saves to stop it from saving a change of more than negative x bytes. Of course, if the bot thinks it is only changing a few things and then an AWB or server glitch saves a blank page, you're out of luck. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

I have reverted all blankings. This is an AWB glitch that had happened before with Task 13, though it wasn't a problem then since blanking pages was the purpose of that task. Upon searching VPT archives, I found Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 194#AWB bot page blanking. I have added the check suggested there, which should prevent this from happening again. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting this, you had me worried when I saw my talk page had been blanked... Dsergeant (talk) 17:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Some GIGO amusement

If you see any easy way to help the bot process these, go ahead. I have no problem cleaning up this GIGO, which is the sort of thing that crops up in maybe one in a thousand bot edits, probably less. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Another page from the batch in #A few wonky signatures above. Normally it would have skipped this since there were pending font tags. Thanks for cleaning up these edge cases, which I assume stick out among the most recently edited pages in Lint error reports. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:33, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

No problem, and that is what I am doing. They are truly edge cases. For the two editors who are vocally sad about their watchlists, I figure that it's better to tidy up right after the bot goes through so that the same page won't pop up later. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:44, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Good shout on Special:Diff/1138968290, glad to see that dead weight dropping off our list! Primefac (talk) 11:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! That was a tiresome merger to complete. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello, ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ,

Thank for clearing out old maintenance categories that had been lingering around for a decade or longer. And it seemed like it only took you about an hour to take care of all of their contents! You're a whiz! Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:49, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. This was part of merging {{Over-coverage}} with {{Globalize}}, taking out all of its monthly categories. In some cases it merely replaced one maintenance cat with another, in many other articles full removal was appropriate. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Pages for the bot's consideration

I have been steadily tidying high-priority errors on pages in the Talk, Wikipedia, User, and User talk spaces, most of the time clearing them of Linter errors other than font tags. It might be worth feeding the pages in my Contributions to the bot, as long as they meet these criteria: (1) they are in one of the above namespaces, (2) my edit summary contains the word "Linter", and (3) the pages were edited in February. Thanks for keeping your bot running; it's making a huge difference in the Linter count. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:40, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Done, using query/70295. It edited 90 of 282 pages that met the above criteria. The others still had font tags after applying changes and were skipped. I will check them later after the bot is done with easy replacements. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

That sounds great. I have seen some crazy font tag structures while fixing these high-priority tags. You'll probably find some productive additions to make to your bot code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:53, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

You might also look through the signature submissions page for signatures and other patterns with misnested font tags, like that of User:Sting_au. Adding those to the bot's fix list might make a few thousand pages fixable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Center template in section headers

Hey, I noticed your bot attemped to fix center tags in section headers like this. This is actually a very bad fix per MOS:HEAD which says not to use template transclusions. The correct fix would be to remove the center as that isn't how section headers should be used anyways. Could you revert those changes? Gonnym (talk) 10:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Oops. Will set it to remove them. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

All of those should be gone now. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Bot paused

The bot appears to be paused after working non-stop for weeks. When it is done having a cookie, it might want to resume checking the alphabetical list of User Talk pages starting with User talk:Sp..., which it put on hold while working on some more interesting patterns. Keep up the great work! – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

It had done alphabetical pages after User talk:Sp... earlier in descending order before I switched it to ascending. Its run with current regexes has ended after 960k edits, clearing ~3.9 million errors. I think there is still more than a million easy font tags sitewide that it skipped due to the presence one or two in a page that it couldn't replace. They will have to be picked one by one and done in small batches, so will be slower. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 04:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I see. I agree about the million-plus remaining font tags. I have been working at a human pace to identify and fix misnested, stripped, and unclosed font tags in pages, leaving fixable tags for the bot. As you have seen, I put a whole bunch of links to searches on the "signature submissions" page; as those examples are painstakingly integrated into the bot's code, more pages will be bot-fixable.

If you want to provide lists of pages where there are font errors that humans need to fix before the bot can work on them, I'd be willing to focus on those pages. I imagine there are tens of thousands of such pages though.... – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I have put together User:ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ/Pages with Lint errors other than font tags. This is a list of pages with any Lint error other than font tags. These are less likely to be edited by bots, so are ideal for humans to work on. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

A bot run through User space?

I am looking through the tidy font link error list, and I'm finding many errors that your bot could have fixed. Is another run through User space on your to-do list? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I hadn't worked on font link bug this time. I think most of the remaining ones there are things that WOSlinkerBot couldn't fix, so I can't really do much with MalnadachBot. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I have made ~250 supervised edits clearing font link bug. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion for List of acting chief justices of Sri Lanka

An article that you have been involved in editing—List of acting chief justices of Sri Lanka—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Snickers2686 (talk) 22:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Please stop with the annoying useless edits already

Hello, user with non-English characters on the English Wikipedia. I don't even know what to call you. In my head, I just think of you as "Mr. Squiggles" because your username just looks like a bunch of squiggly lines to me.

You might remember me as the editor that has loudly complained about how annoying and useless I find your bot that fixes lint errors. I even started an RFC to determine consensus on whether your bot is in violation of WP:COSMETICBOT. Sadly, there wasn't consensus, so I decided to crawl back into my hole and shut up. I went through the trouble of hiding your bot's edits from my watchlist, in the hopes that I could minimize the annoyance caused by your fixing of trivial cosmetic non-issues on ancient pages that no human will likely ever view again for the remainder of human civilization as we know it. But today I opened my watchlist, and I find more lint error edits on some of my ancient user talk page archives. How is that possible if I've already hidden your bot's edits? Well, it appears that now you're making lint error edits from your main account, not your bot account. And you're not flagging them as bot edits anymore.

Why are you doing this? And why did you choose my user talk page archives as the target of your annoying edits? Are you trying to annoy me on purpose?

If these edits are automated, it's likely that they are in violation of WP:MEATBOT. I would ask that you stop immediately, or explain why you're making bot edits from your main account. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 20:15, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@Scottywong since you have taken the trouble of listing all 3 of my contribs from yesterday, you have obviously checked my contribs and seen that I have only 3 edits yesterday, the closest of which is spaced 11 minutes apart. If you really think that is a MEATBOT violation, it makes me worry about your judgment in performing administrative tasks. A more realistic explanation of course is that since having failed to stop Lint fixing sitewide, you are reverting this in WP:OWN userspace out of spite and purposely annoying me by pretending that I am violating MEATBOT.

Coming back to why I have made this from my main account, I feed a bunch of insource search lists to my bot and check those lists after the bot has run through them to see why it skipped some pages. In most cases that is because there are still font tags in the page the bot couldn't replace in a single edit, so I give it regex for that replacement and let it run again. In this case in your archive pages, it was because they have {{nobots}}, so it correctly skipped it. I recognised you and thought we have settled the matter in the RFC, so edited them and fixed all errors in a single edit. You had placed the nobots tag last year when the bot didn't replace all font tags in a single edit. As you know, that issue is fixed now. The number of pages in Special:LintErrors has greatly shrunk in the last few months and will continue shrinking as the bots work through more errors. Pages that bots couldn't edit will attract human editors to fix them. So you reverting them will put them back in error lists, attracting other gnomes to fix them and appear in your watchlist again.

To save you from further annoyance, we can do two things; remove the nobots template to let bots edit or I can manually fix errors in your whole userspace in a day so that they won't need to be edited again. What do you say? ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 03:26, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

The {{nobots}} template was added to those pages specifically to prevent you (and only you) from editing those pages any further. And despite our history, and despite noticing the {{nobots}} template on the pages, and despite noticing the timing with which the {{nobots}} template was added directly after your bot ravaged my talk page archive, your reaction to seeing that your bot correctly skipped those pages is to edit them manually from your main account instead? Seriously? I'm really starting to suspect that there is a potential WP:CIR problem here, between your decision-making in this situation, to your bot's historical performance record, to your username that uses non-English characters, to the hideous font on your user page, to the annoying rainbow border on your user pages, etc., etc., etc.

I would propose a third option for dealing with this situation: in the future, please do not edit any page in my userspace from any of your accounts for any reason, with the exception of my user talk page if you wish to send me a message. I don't know how I can make it any clearer than that. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 05:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

The only purpose of {{nobots}} is to prevent bots from editing a page, not any human editor. Your failure to grasp that and your understanding of WP:MEATBOT indicates a CIR problem. The only ravaging of history here is your luddism and pettiness in reverting them, attracting others to make those same edits. Fine, I won't edit any page in your little fiefdom, but don't say I didn't warn you when someone else eventually does in future. Since you insist on your freedom in your userspace, you should very well know that I have freedom to show whatever fonts and borders I want in mine. Between our history and your Anglo-imperialistic problems with my non-Roman username, don't edit my talkpage again unless it is for any policy mandated reasons. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 06:32, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I have no desire to edit your user talk page (or any of your user pages) for anything other than policy-mandated reasons, and I haven't done so in the past. I don't actually want to interact with you, your behavior just forces the issues sometimes. I'm ok if you perceive me as a petty Luddite (even if that starts to cross the line into personal attacks, I realize I've been somewhat blunt here, so I don't mind). I'm not worried about other bot operators editing my talk page archive, because I'm confident that they will all respect the {{nobots}} template, and they won't decide to make the exact same edit that their bot would have made from their main account in order to circumvent that template. And to be clear, I'm not saying you have to stop using a hideous font and border on your user pages, I'm just expressing my opinion that I think the font makes your user page very difficult to read, and the border is unnecessary and interferes with other elements on the page. As for your user name, I have no hatred for your language or culture and certainly hold no "Anglo-imperialistic" views apart from the view that when you're collaborating on a project that is exclusively dedicated to English-language content, it makes sense to have a username that uses a character set that is recognizable by most English-speaking people. I'm sure you've been directed to WP:LATINPLEASE many times in the past by other editors. If you were editing the Kannada Wikipedia, your username would make a lot more sense. The purpose of a name is to create an identity, to facilitate relationships, etc. When your name is constructed from a character set that is unrecognizable to your colleagues, you're not really creating an identity. If another user made a username like ಡಾಕ್ಣೊಮಚ್ಮ ಕೊಂಲ್ನಾಚ್ಮ, very few editors here would be able to differentiate the two of you from each other. If my username was స్కాటీ వాంగ్ or اسکاتی وانگ, you'd probably have a much harder time recognizing me. Anyway, I appreciate your commitment to leaving my userspace alone, and with that, I'll stop contributing to this discussion thread. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 16:59, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

This appalling thread has caught the attention of the community. It's being discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Scottywong's bullying of ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 20:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Fix two percent of all remaining errors with one bot run?

If my math is right, one bot run could fix at least two percent of all remaining Linter errors. Interested? I know that you and your bot have been quiet for a while, but I thought this might spark your curiosity. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Nikola Rachelle Bedingfield name change

Hello, I work for Nikola Bedingfield's management company, and I saw you had the latest edit to her page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Rachelle ). Could you please make sure that her name reads as just "Nikola Bedingfield" on the headline section of the page? I'm new to wiki, please contact me if you have any questions. Thanks! JacksonLong (talk) 19:02, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your work

Hi. I just wanted to come by and leave some gratitude. Maintaining a bot at this scale requires an enormous amount of dedication, precision and perseverance. And because of stress and things in life, you may feel burnt out by the work, having to take a temporary break, or even an indefinite break. And that is perfectly fine. I just wanted to let you know that many people, including me, deeply appreciate the work you have put in on Wikipedia. You have made Wikipedia a better place. You are awesome. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 14:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

I heartily second this. Tony1 said it best: Among the most valuable editorial work performed by WPians is referred to as "gnoming". Thank you for what you do. DFlhb (talk) 14:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Arbcom request re: Scottywong's treatment of you

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Filed per the ANI thread. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 23:49, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For all of your linting. I'm sorry you're dealing with all the stuff you're dealing with... CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 22:31, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

This aged very poorly... CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 00:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

There's no way you could have known, forget about this one and keep offering words of encouragement anyway. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 05:33, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong closed

The arbitration case Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong has now closed, and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

For failure to meet the conduct standards expected of an administrator, Scottywong's administrative user rights are removed. Scottywong may regain them at any time via a successful request for adminship.
Scottywong (talk · contribs) and ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk · contribs) are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, each other anywhere on Wikipedia (subject to the ordinary exceptions).

For the Arbitration Committee, –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong closed

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Thanks, -Lemonaka‎ 14:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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