Template talk:User sandbox/Archive 1

Archive 1

Split documentation out to /doc

The documentation shouldn't be in the template if the template's protected. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contribs. 10:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I've already created the /doc page and improved the documentation. The sandbox code to fix the template itself is here. I also fixed a semantic markup error in the process. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contribs. 11:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Done Also moved the doc to be a subpage of the template rather than a subpage of one of its redirects. Anomie⚔ 03:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Add parameter to suppress noob instructions

The excessive amount of noob-oriented instruction clutter in this template make some editors not want to use it, especially on secondary sandboxes and sub-sandboxes no one will ever see but us. I've implemented a |plain= option to hide that stuff w/o interfering with |list=, which is what a lot of us want this template for. The sandbox code to add this (includes the above 2 fixes, and spacing cleanup) is here. The /doc page has already been updated with documentation for this parameter, but it is commented out until the feature is added. The changes have been thoroughly test-cased in Template:User sandbox/testcases. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contribs. 11:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Done Eh, why not? Anomie⚔ 03:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

protected edit request

There is not much point in adding {{my sandbox}} to your user page when it's linked from the top of every page, so this text can be removed:

you can also add {{My sandbox}} to your userpage for easy access.

thanks Gurch (talk) 10:03, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

is that true in all skins? Isn't it worth highlighting it anyway, seeing as users may not be aware of that link? Happy to sync if so: just ping me. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

This template is shown to you when you create a user sandbox, which you do by clicking on the "my sandbox" link. So... it would be hard not to be aware of it. The only other time you'd see it is if you added it yourself to a user subpage, in which case you probably already know how to access it.

It is there in all skins, because it's done by javascript in the common js file. It isn't there for people with javascript disabled, but nowadays so much of the interface is javascript-dependent that evidently nobody cares about them anyway. Gurch (talk) 13:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

If the matter is simple redundancy then I don't think making the link inaccessible to non-JS users is a good call here, no matter how few of them there may be. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I'd be in favour of removing it - it's not essential and if someone does want to link to their sandbox then they could just do it directly without using templates. Tra (Talk) 20:01, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Done I'd say this request has been open long enough. Rjd0060 (talk) 01:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

add AFC button

Please add an AFC review link --> like:

Finished? Request a review!

similar to {{userspacedraft}}

Regards, mabdul 20:20, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. A user sandbox is as much for testing wikimarkup as for drafting articles. Also, is the link really supposed to post this template at the bottom of the user's sandbox? Anomie⚔ 20:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

yes, the template have to be added to the bottom since it is the only technical solution at the moment to get the template to the page. See also bugzilla:31919; "our" bot (User:ArticlesForCreationBot) is moving the pages to the WT:AFC space and informing the user and cleaning up the page (removing unneeded templates, moving the template to the top)

Moreover: this sandbox was introduced for unexperienced users - and guess: I found so many helpees in #wikipedia-en-help ^connect using that new sandbox for drafting a new article... mabdul 22:05, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

A RfC was finished with not that much activity. Discussion was archived at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/2012 2#Template:User sandbox. mabdul 10:47, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. OK, I see no opposition to this, but which code needs to be changed how exactly?  Sandstein  07:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to re-open this request. I believe that it should look similar to {{Userspace draft}} except say "If you are writing an article, and are ready to request it's creation, click here." --Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 22:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

The easiest way to request an edit is to edit the /sandbox version and request sync. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

[1]  Done. mabdul 00:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done, (with punctuation correction ;P) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Semi-Protection broken

For some reason, when I attempt to edit the Semi-Protected page, it acts like a Protected page that can be edited by adminstrators, not confirmed users or other users without adminstrator permissions. The edit button is called "Edit", like a unprotected page or a Semi-Protected page when using a confirmed account would, but the title of the page when editing the bugged Semi-Protected page includes "View source". --EleoTager (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

This page is protected in two ways: directly, and by cascading protection from Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items. It's the latter that is preventing you from editing it. For efficiency reasons, only direct protection is checked when rendering the standard page view, so cascading protection and Title blacklist protection do not affect the presence of an "edit" versus "view source" link. Anomie⚔ 17:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

supressing AFC

I'm currently using the template with plain=all on to suppress most of the extra clutter but when adding the AFC support nobody added a way to suppress it for those of us who know how to/can create their own pages and don't need the extra message. Can someone add something like afc=no as a possible variable to suppress the AFC message? Thanks. Cat-fivetc ---- 09:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Done. I've added the code you wanted, reformatted the template for readability, and updated the documentation. Enjoy! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, looks great. Cat-fivetc ---- 01:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Propose to add category "exclude in print"

I am proposing to add the Category:Exclude in print so it will not be included when exporting sandboxes to PDFs or books.Thatpopularguy123 (talk) 07:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Can someone please notice this?????Thatpopularguy123 (talk) 13:54, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Done. Actually, you could have done it yourself, as the page that needed to be edited was Template:User sandbox/doc, which isn't protected. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Thatpopularguy123 (talk) 10:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Add __NEWSECTIONLINK__

In somebody's sandbox, they may decide that they wish to have it so they can click "new section" (or "+") to add to their sandbox. If they don't wish to use this feature, it wouldn't get in their way.

Curiouscrab0 | talk | contribs

19:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

You will get a speedy response if you add {{Edit protected}} to this request. --SMS ^Talk 19:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Grammar

Request to change current sentence:

If you are writing an article, and are ready to request its creation: (Remove colon also.)

to new sentence:

Writing an article and ready to request its creation? (Include space after question mark and before {{#if: ....)

Why? The current sentence uses a comma incorrectly between compound elements that are not independent clauses and incorrectly uses a colon, which must be preceded by an independent clause; comparatively, the new sentence is correct grammatically and more concise. CM2G0005 (talk) 16:11, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done edit made — xaosflux ^Talk 23:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 November 2014

I would like to submit this draft article for review to become live article

Adnotatia (talk) 21:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. If possible, please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. If you cannot edit the article's talk page, you can instead make your request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 22:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

The question was probably about User talk:1980 Riot of Chattanooga, and how to submit this new draft article for Wikipedia. @Adnotatia: Apparently you have moved the draft a few times (it shouldn't be in user talk, see the red info message on top of your draft). Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation is set up to review new articles and support new editors with article creation. I suggest to ask in IRC live chat (just click this link): 1) how to fix the current draft page and 2) how to best proceed with the article submission. As mentioned, this page here is only for template-related questions for the sandbox-template itself. GermanJoe (talk) 22:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 4 December 2014

My draft name is "Antano Solar", I would be grateful if anyone whoever has time can review my draft and let me know if it can be approved. Thank you. Ajeethboaz (talk) 07:16, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. GermanJoe (talk) 07:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

For additional questions, you can also ask at the help desk or live via IRC chat. Both links are included in the box on the top of your draft page. GermanJoe (talk) 07:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Wording of Template

I know this is very detail-oriented and won't affect the majority of users, but the following sentence: "For a sandbox of your own, create it here." (linked part italicized) doesn't seem to flow correctly. Maybe a better replacement would be "Edit your own sandbox here" or "Edit your own sandbox". CarnivorousBunny^{talk • contribs} 02:05, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done Updated to "Create or edit your own sandbox here". — xaosflux ^Talk 14:14, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 16 February 2015

This is a cosmetic change request but it is to comply with WMF's recent Agora Control Library buttons concept. I believe submitting an article for AfC is a progressive not constructive action which is why the color should be changed. Furthermore, it's way too small and well, my change looks good:
class=mw-ui-constructive|style=line-height: 1.4em; margin-top: 3px; padding: 0 1.7em 0 1.7em to class=mw-ui-progressive|style=line-height: 1.9em; margin-top: 3px; padding: 0 4.6em 0 4.6em QEDK ♠ T ♥ C 14:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done. Seems uncontroversial, but this change is revertible on request. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:47, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 25 February 2015

Would it be possible to change BASEPAGENAME(E) to ROOTPAGENAME(E)? I keep various sandboxes as a subpage of /Sandbox (example: User:Anon126/Sandbox/User:Anon126), so the template says "This is the user sandbox of Anon126/Sandbox." Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 03:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done. SiBr₄ (talk) 09:13, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 6 April 2015

Please examine Template:User sandbox/sandbox where a helpful editor has mocked up this proposed change: That the user sandbox temple should not display any message at all when an article that deploys it is in the Draft: namespace. If it acts in this manner, please implement the change.

The rationale is to avoid confusion to editors during the WP:AFC process when a draft is moved from a User: namespace to the Draft: namespace, and is comparable with that in {{Userspace draft}}.

I am not competent to check the syntax. Fiddle Faddle 22:31, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, the template in the sandbox works as expected. {{Userspace draft}} places drafts which are not in userspace in Category:Misplaced userspace drafts - would we want to replicate that here? Also, has this change been discussed anywhere? Alakzi (talk) 22:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Limited discussion here. If further discussion is required I imagine this talk page and this request is the place to hold it. I feel it to be uncontroversial, but your view may differ. I have no view on category placement. Fiddle Faddle 22:54, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
    • Done. Alakzi (talk) 23:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Horisontal list

I have been trying to add hlist as parameter to |list= without success when trying to add a horisontal list of my sandboxes. The list ends up in a new row. Anyone know a solution or is there some changes in code that might be done? Some templates I have seen, like {{Football squad}} passes a list of footballers to {{navbox}} with |listclass=hlist, so I am thinking if there is a somewhat similar solution that can be found? Qed237 (talk) 16:52, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

You could simply wrap the list inside {{Flatlist}} or {{Hlist}}. Alakzi (talk) 17:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: It wont work. Feel free to look at User:Qed237/sandbox or the code to see what I am doing wrong. The list ends up on a new row. Code: {{User sandbox|plain=yes|list={{hlist|[[User:Qed237/sandbox|sandbox]]|[[User:Qed237/sandbox2|sandbox2]]|[[User:Qed237/sandbox3|sandbox3]]|[[User:Qed237/sandbox4|sandbox4]]}} }}. Qed237 (talk) 22:13, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

That can't be helped; the parser won't place a list inside a paragraph. Alakzi (talk) 22:26, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: So there is nothing that can be done about this? That's not good. I guess I have to solve it the "ugly" way for now, either adding a personal navbox or finding some "symbols" I can add and make my own lisst. If I ever have the time and get any idea's then start editing the template sandbox. Qed237 (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: Anyway, thanks for the help and quick response. Qed237 (talk) 22:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Coding

Hello. I would like to copy the coding used on this page in order to add a similar (or identical) template to a number of Wikipedia sister projects currently lacking any equivalent template. The issue with this is that I am currently unable to access the coding, as I am not an administrator and it is protected to prevent vandalism. It would be of great assistance if an administrator with access to editing this tenplate could copy the entire page to the page in this link for my benefit in this regard. Thank you very much!
SecretName101 (talk) 21:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@SecretName101: Any user can view and copy the code of a page even if they do not have the right to edit it – just click the "View source" link, which is positioned where the "Edit" tab would normally be. SiBr₄ (talk) 21:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Broke template

Sorry, just to anyone who might have seen the edit on their watchlist or sandbox – I broke this template for a few short seconds. I reverted it at once, but in case you're wondering – I'm sorry. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 16:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

User's Sandboxed Article Growing Farm

Have a look here: User:ManosHacker/sandbox and see how Template:User sand box works. New users can create, fast end errorless, their multi-article sandboxed workplace, fully organized as a(n always two clicks away) list, in which sandboxed articles are ready to be moved to main article space with simple clicks (mistakes were the rule for new users without these new buttons, when moving from user namespace to main). Experience has shown (Greek Wikipedia, used since February 2015) that there were zero bites from old users. We have been using it for several months at Wikipedia School as standard practice. Unhide functionality (click both "show" commands) to get view of funcionality. Follow sandboxed child articles to see the change of behavior of the template inside a sandboxed article. Hovering gives guidance. Moving a sandbox to an article removes it from the personal sandboxes view list.·· ManosHacker 23:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

What exactly are you proposing? Eman235/talk 10:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

The proposal is to put this organized workplace functionality inside Template:User sandbox (replace old template with new). It is extremely helpful for new users. It replaces Tutorial sandbox 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 with far more capabilities.·· ManosHacker 11:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

• Support. Tutorial sandbox 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 functionality is unneeded and unused. New functionality is proven helpful[2][3][4]. ·· ManosHacker 04:42, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I fully agree and support the multiple usage of the sandboxes. FYI, I've been currently working simultaneously on several sandboxes (in the Greek Wikipedia) el:Χρήστης:Aristo Class/πρόχειρο/draft Πλουμέρια (this is pending, awaiting a clarification from an expert), el:Χρήστης:Aristo Class/πρόχειρο/draft Χρήστος Γαλανός (this is pending, awaiting to see another source of information-reference), el:Χρήστης:Aristo Class/πρόχειρο/draft Leghorn (this is pending, as needing confirmation from a veterinarian), el:Χρήστης:Aristo Class/πρόχειρο/draft Μακρύ πιπέρι (currently working on this sandbox), etc., so, I take advantage and exploit (to the outmost) my "Wikipedia time". --Aristo Class (talk) 18:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@ManosHacker: Hi. :) This is an interesting idea. Is it supposed to replace Template:User sandbox? Because if so, you should make a proposal at Template talk:User sandbox so that editors there will be aware of your ideas. I also recommend advertising the discussion at WP:VPT, as technical people are more likely to be interested in this idea than others. If no-one responds even after that, then you can just assume that the lack of response counts as a consensus and start a protected edit request. (p.s. I've reverted your edits to my userspace, but don't worry, I'm not annoyed or anything.) Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 00:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

ManosHacker, just took a look at it and it looks really good. A note on the technical implementation: {{Move sandbox to article}}, {{Sandbox subpages}}, and {{Create sandbox subpage}}, as "sub-templates" of the main one, could probably be moved under the main template instead of hanging out in template space as separate templates.

Regarding getting people to look at it, it's weird that more people didn't weigh in at the technical village pump. It might be on-topic at WP:VPPR instead of the technical one, though. Generally, good luck with your template! APerson (talk!) 00:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

• A PEG Learning Pattern (Article Nursery Garden) has been created on this template extention (August 29, 2015).·· ManosHacker 10:48, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 September 2015

Xayad Hussain (talk) 23:17, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done No request made. What changes do you want made to this template? And please establish WP:CONSENSUS before requesting an edit to a template-protected article. Qed237 (talk) 00:29, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate link in template

The "tutorial sandbox" #3 and #4 link to the same sandbox. I assume it was meant to follow the tutorial and that #4 should link to a sandbox named "citing sources" (not sure how to find that), but instead it goes to the Links sandbox for both. The tutorial no longer has 5 sections with instructions to try editing in the sandbox, for whatever reason that was removed from both the Citing Sources page and the Links page, but it seems pointless for the template link to the same sandbox twice, so can someone please fix that? I don't have the right (the user right, that is). Thanks. LibertyOrDeath (talk) 16:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

 Done. They didn't link to exactly the same sandbox, but they both had similar enough names that it was confusing. I updated #4 to point to the citing sources sandbox, although we might want to think about removing the links to the tutorial sandbox altogether if the tutorial doesn't mention them any more. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! Are you sure they didn't link to the same sandbox though? When I opened both, one seemed to redirect to the other. I agree that they may not be useful anymore, since they aren't part of the actual tutorial now. If they're removed, should they be replaced with something else? I do think we should keep the first one [5], which is still in the tutorial, as it contains a number of useful links for newer editors. LibertyOrDeath (talk) 02:19, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

@LibertyOrDeath: I'm not even convinced that we should keep that one. The only mention of the Editing Sandbox is a passing reference that seems to imply that you can only preview edits when you're in the sandbox, and the sandbox is never introduced. If we want to keep it, the editing section should either be rewritten or might be better to just add those links to the regular sandbox template. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:55, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I restored an older version of that page of the tutorial that better explained what the sandbox is, so disregard my comment above. I agree that we don't need five separate sandboxes for the tutorial. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:04, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I'd noticed that too, glad you fixed it. Are you still thinking of updating the template so it matches the tutorial? LibertyOrDeath (talk) 00:58, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 April 2016

Rfletch4269 (talk) 06:08, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Blank request — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 31 May 2016

I suggest directing users to draft:Sandbox rather than WP:sandbox, since it allows editing in Visual Editor in addition to markup.

[[Wikipedia:Sandbox|Main sandbox]] | change to [[Draft:Sandbox|Main sandbox]] |

T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 02:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done With 100,000+ usages, this type of change will need to have a larger consensus establisher here first. That being said, both of these pages link to the VE already. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:36, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2016

Please add {{not a sandbox}} to the documentation subpage.

95.49.248.230 (talk) 13:13, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Done — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 18:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 10 September 2016

23.243.125.103 (talk) 12:29, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done; no content. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. It looks like you were attempting to fix a small mistake at User talk:Gerda Arendt, so I'm assuming this request was made in error. The problem on that user talk page has already been resolved, so no need to worry about the mistake. If you need further help editing, Help:Contents may be a good starting point. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 12:47, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Remove links to tutorial sandboxes?

Is there a reason to link to the five tutorial sandboxes from this template? I'd be inclined to remove the links for simplicity, since they're only relevant to people taking the tutorial and they're linked to directly from e.g. Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting Mortee (talk) 02:17, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Enhanced functionality

There is an enhancement of {{user sandbox}}, with advanced functionality: {{user sand box}}.

It supports:

• multiple user sandboxes for developing article content,
• pre-formed article templates,
• custom article templates (user or coordinated, i.e. to support editathons),
• easy and foolproof page creation and move to article space
• translating to a sandbox
• automatically handled & displayed user sandbox list
• manually removal of sandboxes from the list, and
• adaption of template behavior on place or action
  • during edit or view
  • outside user space
  • in user's main sandbox
  • in user's sub-sandboxes

See it working here and try it in your sandbox, to also see how custom sandbox templates are built.

• It needs documentation.
• most global select template forms are empty they are only a proposal.
• 8-10% of new articles in Greek Wikipedia, during 2016, were produced by editors instructed to use the light version of this sandbox.
• 8-year-old school students created articles on their own, under guidance.

It could replace {{user sandbox}}.--46.198.242.109 (talk) 12:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Instructions (Save or Publish)

The instructions in the response to the submit button refer to the "Save changes" button, but confusingly the WMF have changed this button to now be labelled "Publish changes" (though of course it doesn't publish the changes to article space but merely allows submission of the draft for review). The instructions (here & in many other places) will need changing if the WMF change isn't reversed. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

I've edited {{AFC submission/Subst/Editintro}} and {{AFC submission/Substdraft}} -- John of Reading (talk) 14:32, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Module sandbox

While working on the GCI 2017, I've been trying to encourage young aspiring programmers to edit Wikipedia. Many of them have coding skills far beyond their (often non-existent) Wikipedia skills.

As anyone coming to Wikipedia with that sort of background will be writing Lua in the Module: namespace, it would be useful if they had a link to Module:Sandbox/their_user_name that will be their sandbox for writing code. I expect it wouldn't be used very often, but would be at least as valuable as the Template sandbox link currently displayed. I suggest it would be a net positive to include their Module:Sandbox link in this template – what do others think? --RexxS (talk) 19:12, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Main sandbox link should be Draft:sandbox

The "Main sandbox" link should point to Draft:Sandbox, rather than WP:Sandbox, since it is VisualEditor-compatible, which is what newcomers typically need it for. It also introduces them to the draft namespace. I've made suggested edits in the Template:User_sandbox/sandbox. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 10:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 17:42, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

change to gently discourage blank and other inapproprate submissions

Change from "Writing an article and ready to request its creation? " to "Writing an article and ready to request that an experienced editor review and create it?" A few more words will save a lot of work at AfC Legacypac (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

support enthusiastically. We'll need to extend this to further situations but this is a very good start. DGG ( talk ) 23:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Even clearer "Writing an article and ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia Article space?" Same basic change needed at Template:Userspace_draft Legacypac (talk) 23:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

they may not know what Article space is. Perhaps

""Writing a draft article and ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?" DGG ( talk ) 00:19, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Agreed, make it so. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 02:48, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Indeed "article space" and "create" are both wikispeak. This needs to be in plain English. Legacypac (talk) 01:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 19 July 2018

Line 44 contains old button label "Save page". The button now says "Publish page" for new pages and "Publish changes" for edits to existing changes. It would probably be safe to change the text to "Publish" or, if you want to be conservative, to "Publish page". — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:17, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, the change made at Template:Userspace draft was to change the text from "Save page" to "<bdi>{{int:Publishpage}}</bdi>". So, to make things consistent, that's what I should be asking for here. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done Cabayi (talk) 21:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Solapuri Mata

Sri Solapuri Mata is a local deity or Gramadevata in Kharagpur Town State of West Bengal. Solapuri Mata temple is situated in the heart of Kharagpur, built in the year 1917 by Desetti Appyan Garu. On “Kottha Amavasya” a day before Ugadi thousands of people come to temple for worship. Mata Solapuri (talk) 12:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 22 December 2018

AdhuriimKrasniqi (talk) 22:53, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:25, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 December 2018

Tm 12172018 (talk) 14:53, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 15:42, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 24 March 2019

Sabun Dhital (talk) 05:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done empty request. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:15, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 28 March 2019

Hottfitnsexy (talk) 07:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

This is not the place for article submissions

{{User sandbox}} <!-- EDIT BELOW THIS LINE --> '''Matthew Kline Kader''' (November 12, 1989) is a [[United States|American]] professional bodybuilder and professional street fighter.<ref>{{imdb name|8650968}}</ref> == Biography == He was born as '''Matthew Kline Kader''' on November 12, 1989 in [[California]], [[Mission Viejo]] to actor [[Waheed Kader]] (b. 1954) and his wife Rona Kader. Matthew Kline Kader defeated UFC champion Cody Gabrandt in 2017.<ref>{{imdb name|8650968|section=bio}}</ref> He challenged Conor Mcgregor to a fight in 2017 which Conor declined due to Kader's size.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/bodybuilder-called-ufc-champion-issues-cringey-challenge-conor-mcgregor-132213|title=bodybuilder-called-ufc-champion-issues-cringey-challenge-conor-mcgregor|date=31 July 2017|publisher=}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/videos/video-matthew-kline-kader-heading-overseas-to-challenge-another-ufc-champion|title=matthew kline kader heading overseas to challenge another ufc champion|first=bj|last=penndotcom|date=29 July 2017|publisher=|via=BJPENN}}</ref> ==References== {{Reflist}} == Other websites == * {{imdb name|8650968}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Kader, Matthew Kline}} [[Category:1989 births]] [[Category:Professional Bodybuilder]] {{US-Bodybuilder-stub}} {{AFC submission|||ts=20190324025723|u=Hottfitnsexy|ns=2}}

 Not done: Cabayi (talk) 07:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 March 2019

I added the page to the mainspace. it says I need to delete the sandbox template. So would you please delete it ? Thank you Skygazer31 (talk) 15:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done nothing to do here. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:11, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 15 April 2019

(Can I please request to either create or have created a page for CK Office Furniture on Wikipedia? I believe this may constitute a conflict of interest as I am writing on behalf of the company. Please ensure that I am doing this correctly. I Have read and will re-read the guidelines. With thanks for your time.

rose00088

Reason for Edit, this company is not mentioned in Wikipedia. They are an established Office furniture company.

I expect to be paid to submit this information by Simon Colenutt of CK Office Services website: www.ckofficefurniture.co.uk I am a freelancer and have his full permission to write on behalf of CK Office Services.

CK Office Furniture

CK Office Services is based in Kent, UK and was set up in 1999 to supply office furniture, both new and second hand.

Private homes, corporate offices, businesses, companies and a variety of organizations have benefited from furniture and fit-outs from CK Office Services.

CK Office Services is mainly based in Paddock Wood, Kent, UK. It has a website under the name CK Office Furniture.

CK Office Furniture store some new furniture for immediate delivery across the United Kingdom. They use their own vans and in-house drivers and fitters to provide the best possible services to their clients.

They also work with trusted suppliers to ensure Quality products are available at all times. These include mesh office chairs, boat-shaped tables, radial and straight desks, foldable and moveable furniture, operator and executive seating, meeting and conference chairs and filing and storage cabinets.

www.ckofficefurniture.co.uk

CK Office Services

: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05737355 Rose00088 (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned.

Rose00088, this business does not meet the notability requirements of WP:NCORP. If all it took was a website, some transport, some furniture and an entry at companieshouse.gov.uk I'd make the grade, and I definitely do not. Cabayi (talk) 17:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 May 2019

Ahmad Sahar (talk) 03:38, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Ahmad Sahar (born 30thMarch is a Pakistani singer and actor. He has recorded numerous chart-topping songs and funny videos and known for his vocal belting techniques. He predominantly sings in Urdu and Punjabi.Sahar has formal music education He grew up listening to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Madam Noor Jahan, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan Master Saleem and others.His presence on digital media is through his YouTube channel (AhmadSaharMusic).

Early Life

Ahmad Sahar was born into a Punjabi Muslim Family in Okahra, Punjab, Pakistan. He began his early education at Prestation Convent High School, Okara.He moved to Lahore to obtain his Bachelore’s degree in banking and finance from the University of Punjab. He the university of Punjab ( PUCAD) To receive his master’s degree in Music. Also he obtained his filmmaking and graphic design degree from sayhana GA art collge.

Career/Songs

Gadi: Ahmad Sahar ft. Yam released on 7thmarch 2016[edit] AakhDa Teer: Ahmad Sahar September 2016[edit] Tum Ko Kyun: Ahmad Sahar Ft. Siah Feb 2018[edit]

hide Native name Ahmad Sahar Birth name Ahmad Sahar Born Okara Genres Pop Occupation(s) Singer and Producer Instruments Guitar and Piano Years active 2008Present Labels Atlanta Studio and A records Social Media:@ Instagram,facebooks ,and youtube Ahmadsharmusic

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Template-protected edit request on 14 March 2020

I ask for a request because I currently want to make a page for Current bellator Pro fighter Eugene Correa which holds the record for the fastest leg lock in the world. Ecorrea5621 (talk) 04:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 April 2020

Zixu8641 (talk) 02:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Article Title:Lyrurus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyrurus).

Associated Wiki Projects: My article can be associate with ornithological resource. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Birds

Description: Lyrurus is a particular kind of bird. There are only two spices of bird, the first one named Lyrurus tetrix and second one is Lyrurus mlokosiewiczi. They are all medium-sized chickens, and it is cursores that are good at walking or running fast but cannot fly.It is not good at flying, but he has sharp claws and is good at walking and catching prey.The difference between males and females is that the male has black feathers and the female has russet feathers.Their habitat is in the forest that is generally 600-900 meters above sea level, mainly on the leaves and seeds of plants for food, but also eat insects.The lyrurus tetrix distributed in the north of Eurasia, as well as northwest China and so on. The Lyrurus mlokosiewiczi distributed in Armenia, azerbaijan, Georgia, islamic republic of Iran.Both of them are listed on the IUCN red list of endangered species in 2016.

Title of sections: Protection of Lyrurus mlokosiewiczi Heredity of Lyrurus mlokosiewiczi The cause of death Distribution characteristics in the West Siberian plain Models of reproduction

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 May 2020

EnglishSpeaker101 (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Burma

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 21 June 2020

Mr.pondit (talk) 16:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- S.Hinakawa (talk) 17:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 June 2020

Aabhas Narayan Raina is an Indian writer. He started writing short stories on the backside of notebooks but at the age of 12 he started working on books and introduced a new book series "THE FOE"

Real name - Aabhas Raina

pen name - aabhas narayan raina

mother - Supriya Raina

books - The land of abstroco

Upcoming books - The death of chernobog

Lives in - India Aabhas Narayan Raina (talk) 10:28, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:19, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 21 August 2020

Hi I want to be an editor because I love Wikipedia Djdjdjdj12345 (talk) 10:46, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

To editor Djdjdjdj12345: hi! Welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for wanting to edit, and you can begin by reading the boxes at the top of this page. Then you can browse through the Help and Project pages. Maybe even check out the Teahouse as shown on your talk page. Again welcome and we hope you continue to enjoy editing! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 12:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 October 2020

Hello, I would like to access the article I submitted so I can edit it. Thank you, Fadila. The link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox#Business_Assurance Journee2020 (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

@Journee2020: This isn't really the right place to ask for that, and that isn't really in good shape to be an article, but you can access it at Special:PermanentLink/981078079. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2021

] want to have page in Wikipedia. betasport (talk) 05:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Bug

On my own sandbox it appears as "This is the user sand box of        ." but appears correctly in editing mode. ― Qwerfjkl|✉   20:30, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

I want to publish a biography in Wikipedia.It is fully reliable and I have taken information from other Wikipedia sites.It is on a bengali film maker.I will provide each and every detail and proper proof.I will be highly obliged if my request is granted. Bimal Biswas (talk) 04:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

To editor Bimal Biswas: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Template:User sandbox page. Please create the film maker's article in WP:Draft space or your user space. Then you can have it reviewed. Please follow the guidance at WP:Your first article and at WP:Articles for creation. Thank you so much for your input! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 07:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Rewording of "review request suggestion"

Currently, the wording of the sandbox AFC notice (what does "AFC" stand for anyway?) says:

Finished writing a draft article? Are you ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia? [Submit your draft for review!]

I feel uncomfortable when I see this, and I think the wording could be improved.

Problem: It implies "experienced editors" are the authority on what is allowed to be on Wikipedia.

1. Are they going to give me detailed feedback about what to fix?
   Is it going to be a back-and-forth process of submit—return-submit-return endlessly finding mistakes and endlessly fixing them?
2. Isn't this wording a violation of Wikipedia's "Be bold" policy?
   This wording carries a heavy implicit message that "possible rejection" is equally likely, and that Wikipedia has a gated community that requires proof of worthiness before being included within its walls.

I know it seems like overreacting, but I think it's worth discussing how to make Wikipedia more welcoming and appear more accessible. Right now this message gives an illusion of red-tape, when actually it's really easy to create new articles on Wikipedia without going through any sort of process.

Here is one suggestion for replacing the wording in the AFC notice:

Finished drafting an article? Be bold and publish it on Wikipedia! Or request an experienced editor to review it: [Submit your draft for review!]

JKVeganAbroad (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done This request demonstrates a misunderstanding of Wikipedia practices: the claims that "experienced editors" are the authority on what is allowed to be on Wikipedia and that Wikipedia has a gated community that requires proof of worthiness before being included within its walls are in fact true, via processes like Wikipedia:New page patrol. It is, in fact, very difficult to create an article that will not be quickly deleted, and implementing this request would serve only to cause false hope. (And, for what it's worth, AFC stands for Wikipedia:Articles for creation). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. JKVeganAbroad (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Ahmed Khalid

Ahmed Khalid Music (talk) 13:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. firefly ( t · c ) 13:32, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Karumpattoor

Karumpattoor is a village in the Kanyakumari district of Tamil Nadu, India. It is administrated under the panchayat of Karumpattoor and is located 6 km from Kanyakumari (An International tourist place of India) and 14 km away from Nagarcoil, the district headquarters of Kanyakumari and the nearest city Trivandrum (capital of Kerala). The village is surrounded by paddy fields and coconut groves. Further, this village has a pleasant climate throughout the year and benefited from both northeast and south-west monsoons. In addition to that, the village has seen success in the sphere of politics, with village members serving as a member of legislative assembly level. Village member Shree Vaikunda Das served as an MLA for the Government of Tamilnadu.

History: Karumpattoor is divided into two parts, North Karumpattoor and South Karumpattoor. Around 250 residences are living in North Karumpattoor and most of them are the devotees of Lord Ayya Vikander (Ayyavazhi). The South Karumpattoor residence are the devotees of Lord Jesus Christ. Karumpattoor is very closely located in the holy place, which is Swamythoppu pathi. One of the main features of this village is that Sanctum Sanctorum (Palliyarai) of Karumpattoor Sriman Narayanaswamy temple has suited linearly to the Sanctum Sanctorum (Palliyarai) of Swamithopu pathi. Another feature is the temple has constructed the place where the lord Vikander was taken to rest awhile on his return journey from Mutta Pathi. Location and pieces of information of Temples:

1. Ayya Sriman Narayanaswamy temple belongs to the whole village. It is suited in the south part of the village. 2. Siva Sudalai Maadan Temple, it’s a family temple suited directly in the center of the village. 3. Amman Temple, it’s a family temple located in the north part of the village.

Education: Karumpattoor people are highly educated. The Literacy rate is 100 %. The village produces Doctors, Teachers, Lecturers, college professors, Engineers, Scientists and government employees, including the defense and police departments, some people are working as engineers and software developers in all over the world.

Agriculture: Major crops under cultivations: Rice, Coconut, Banana, Mango, Tamarind and Vegetables and flowers

Library: The old library called ‘Bharathi Padipagam” has been inaugurated by the former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu Shree K. Kamaraj. The new library functions in the name of Ex MLA, Shree. Ve. Das along with the historical books.

Major festivals:

Chithirai Thiruvizha (17 days) – Ayya Sriman Narayanaswamy temple (Every year month of May) Margazhi Thiruvizha (3 days)- Ayya Sriman Narayanaswamy temple (Every year month of December) Pongal Celebration (3 days)- Sports and Cultural activities Pravin Narayanaperumal (talk) 10:56, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. If possible, please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. If you cannot edit the article's talk page, you can instead make your request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page. firefly ( t · c ) 11:03, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 August 2021

Lumbar Spine Traction

Lumbar traction before and after

(Redacted copyright violation) Alvulfov (talk) 14:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{User sandbox}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Making the "create or edit your own sandbox here" show up only when needed

Would it be possible to make the "create or edit your own sandbox here" line only show up if you're viewing a page other than your own sandbox? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:05, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

My request for this page to be semi-protected has regrettably been declined, so I am removing it from my watchlist, as it is far too spammy. Please ping me if you reply. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Change Submit for Review

As we know, the Draft namespace exists for those submitting to WP:AFC, therefore it now seems silly that there is a big blue button on this template for submitting an sandbox for review. Rather than get rid of the button completely, maybe something that 'converts' the sandbox in to a Draft namespace article would be more useful, not only for new editors, but for AfC reviewers as well.

Either that or replace 'Finished writing a draft article? Are you ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?' with something like 'This sandbox is for testing edits, do you wish to create a draft article' with the blue button heading to WP:WIZARD - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 17:30, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: As I understand it, Draftspace is the preferred location for AfC drafts, but that submitting from a user sandbox is perfectly acceptable. It also seems silly to move a page twice, once to Draftspace and then potentially again to mainspace. firefly ( t · c ) 19:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Mention of the noindex parameter

Hi. I'm a new editor. I found the handling of the noindex parameter on this page contradictory and confusing enough to lead newbies like me to using it improperly. At first, it says,

• "noindex=no - indexing by search engines will be allowed (by default, noindex is "yes", i.e. pages with this template transcluded on them are not indexed by search engines). This parameter should almost always be omitted, because sandboxes should not be indexed as Wikipedia content. (My empasis.)

Then later in the page it says,

• "Set to something other than 'yes' to make this page visible to search engines like Google."

Many ordinary readers won't pick up on the double negative in the first quote and happily set their sandboxes to something other than "yes" as the second quote seems to direct us to do. Perhaps fixing this would save effort and electricity? Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 23:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I cannot think of a valid reason for search engines to index the contents of user sandboxes on Wikipedia, since it cannot lead to anything but confusion and mischief. The noindex property should be set permanently and not be changeable by a template parameter.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Possible typo in Sandbox banner

Resolved

On my Sandbox page, it has a banner. One sentence in the banner says, "Are you ready to request an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?" To me, it seems "editor review it" should be changed to "editor to review it". Or am I missing something. Is it really a typo? If so, should I report it to someone? Should I change it? How? Thanks. Sunandshade (talk) 05:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

It's not a true typo, because it's not literally an error, it's just a shorthand phrasing that is more common probably in British English. But a revision that would be clear to everyone regardless of dialect, so it better suits MOS:COMMONALITY, would be good.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:35, 24 December 2023 (UTC); revised 05:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Three possible fixes are:

1. Are you ready to request an experienced editor to review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?
2. Are you ready to request that an experienced editor review it for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?
3. Are you ready to request review of it by an experienced editor for possible inclusion in Wikipedia?

The first is actually awkward, with a "to ... to ..." construction; the second is clearer but still could potentially confuse a non-native English speaker; so I went with the third. Marking this resolved, unless someone has a concern to raise.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Formatting adjustment

In the sandbox for this template, I tweaked the bolding/italics to better emphasize the main point of the notice (that the page is a sandbox) as the most prominent element. Feel free to let me know how it looks; I will plan to implement shortly if there are no concerns. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done per silent consensus. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, though "This is not an encyclopedia article" being in bold is also fine.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 April 2024

Please add {{Sandbox heading/Tabs}} (and protect that template) to make navigating between the different sandboxes easier. We should get users to experiment and play around with different functions in the various sandboxes and their own sandbox. It also has a link to "test Wikipedia" for experimentation with user scripts, etc. Awesome Aasim 03:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Most newcomers only need one sandbox to experiment in, so I'm not sure this would be useful. Sdkb ^talk 05:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Deactivating for now because I got an objection, so I am now seeking consensus. Awesome Aasim 06:47, 12 April 2024 (UTC)