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Augustine

St. Augustine took Seth's name to mean 'resurrection'. Should this information be included in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.115.206 (talk) 13:50, 2005 August 8 (UTC)

I would say that it should be included (as long as there is a reference). HammerHeadHuman 17:45, 27 December 2006

Arabic script

Can someone knowledgable enough add the name of Seth in Arabic script? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.185.76.132 (talk) 11:31, 2005 October 25 (UTC)

(Done) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerHeadHuman (talk • contribs) 19:00, 2007 January 4 (UTC)

Sheeth is the arabic translation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.46.183.206 (talk) 12:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC) Musicwriter (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs references

Yeah. There aren't any. Why? Titanium Dragon 08:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up how to put references to verses in the Bible. Apparently you put them in the main text - as this article does. For example, on one webpage chosen at random

When reference is made to the Bible, the book, chapter and verse are abbreviated and cited in the main text:

The Paraclete is to remain with them (Jn 14:17), to teach them (Jn 14:26) and to declare what he has heard (Jn 16:13).

Are you suggesting we should disregard this and put Biblical references in a References section at the bottom? Hebrides 12:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevance

So much is mentioned about Cain and Abel, much of this information seems irrelevant in a article about Seth... Anyone else agree?HammerHeadHuman 04:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, there was lots of interpolation in the Hebrew Bible section that has nothing to do with the Hebrew Bible. I have removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.156.214.138 (talk) 04:59, 2007 January 4 (UTC)

I agree! CHANGE IT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.139.209 (talk) 18:58, 2009 January 26 (UTC)

Cain/Abel are the story of Seth = context. Text mdnp (talk) 23:26, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Disambiguation/Relevance

I do not agree that this is the most relevant page when consulting Wikipedia on "Seth". The third son of Adam is hardly more relevant than, as an example, the Egiptian god. In my opinion [Seth] should redirect to the disambiguation page. Maybe have the Mythology section on top, if that is found to be important or relevant.--portugal (talk) 15:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may be that "seth" directs here because of the spelling of the name - "Set" is the title' for the article about the Egyptian God, so searches for that name redirect there. In any case, I have deleted the reference to Set the Egyptian god within this article (in the introduction). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Bucket (talk • contribs) 19:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name incorrect

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.63.116 (talk) 09:53, 2010 April 24 (UTC)

This unsigned section was added by IP 84.108.63.116, however the content of the section was later removed by IP 65.18.84.1 on 17:23, 2013 October 25 (UTC) but that IP editor left the header in place. Added subst template for the signing for the first IP editor.— al-Shimoni (talk) 17:15, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian god

Is the Biblical Seth really the main meaning? Google gives over 4 million results for seth god and over 4,5 million for seth egyptian while only 1,25 million for seth bible, and, as the previous editor pointed out, Seth isn't even the correct Hebrew pronunciation. – Alensha ^talk 04:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seth should redirect to a disambiguation page.JanderVK (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This Seth is the main person/thing that comes to mind for the bare name. The Egyptian god is most commonly referred to as either "Set" (most common) or "Sutekh" (less common). While there are numerous other well-known people bearing the name Seth, none are known by just the plain name. Less well-known persons who are known by just the plain name are too unknown to qualify for having the main meaning on Wikipedia (such as Seth, a minor person in the LDS Book of Mormon). While "seth" isn't generally the correct Hebrew pronunciation, this is the English language WP, so the common spelling in English is the preferred one for article naming. Also, using Google result numbers to determine popularity is against Wikipedia since there are dozens of known reasons that make such number quite inaccurate for making judgments. — al-Shimoni (talk) 20:35, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Islam

I have removed the following for no references and being somewhat inflammatory:

"The problem with Islamic teachings on Biblical characters they based them on folklore rather than any substantiated truth. Like the rest of Islamic teaching which is based on hearsay and conjecture. Very unreliable sources and contradictory"

I also felt it is an opinion and didn't belong in an encyclopedic article.

If any regulars would like to re-insert it feel free. --MicaelaD (talk) 02:00, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Need help correcting "she bare a son".

In the Genesis section, it reads, "Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son." When I check the link, it says she bore a son, which is correct. I tried to edit it, but I couldn't see the text. Can someone figure out how to change this section so it reads correctly? DBlomgren (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cain as Noah's ancestor

Genesis 4:17-18 - Cain and his wife had a son and named him Enoch. Then Cain build a city and named it after his son (Erech/Uruk/Unuk(sumerian)). Enoch had another son named Irad...

ok, so this passage and those that follow indicate that Cain is the ancestor of Noah, not Seth... it also states that Cain founded Erech, or modern day Iraq...

although, it doesn't specifically mention Noah as the son of Enoch in this passage, it can be inferred from history and is completely contrary to the account of Genesis 5.

the lineage is as such in each case:

Adam/Eve > Cain > Enoch > Irad > Mehujael > Methushael > Lamech > Noah (lifts the curse on the land brought about by Cain)

Adam/Eve > Seth > Enosh > Kenan > Mahalalel > Jared > Enoch > Methuselah > Lamech > Noah

history has been altered/fabricated in the Genesis 5 account... it completely rewrites the Genesis 4 account...

either: Seth (the son Eve never had) is simply a metaphor for Abel... and later Enosh...

or: Cain is simply a metaphor (and the son Eve never had)... this explanation seems unlikely...

why? because we have the entire history of Cain, the founding or Erech, etc... but we have nothing on Seth... no history what so ever...

also, neither do we have a history for Methushael (Genesis 4 version), but we have one for Methuselah (Genesis 5 version)...

70.48.210.219 (talk) 07:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are engaging in original research of your own without any sources. We can't do that here. Find out what sources say, then we can talk about including their opinions, interpretations or commentary with attributation. See if you can find any claiming as you do that Cain was really the ancestor of Noah, and not Seth the ancestor of Noah. 71.246.158.36 (talk) 12:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Enoch

I've added a couple of links to the Islam section, but I'm not sure whether Enoch refers to Enoch (ancestor of Noah) or Enoch (son of Cain), so I've left it pointing to the disambiguation page. Hopefully someone else can fix it. Mind you, that section is completely unreferenced. Rojomoke (talk) 12:00, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seth the Patriarch picture is inappropriate

There shouldn't be a picture of "Seth the Patriarch", whoever that was, illustrating an article about Seth, the third son of Adam and Eve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.128.122.46 (talk) 19:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to Abrahamic religions

Should the WP:LEAD begin "According to the Abrahamic religions"? Opinions? Editor2020, Talk 02:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To make this change it would need to be established that other Abrahamic religions beyond the three named, such as Bahá'í, Rastafarianism, Samaritanism, Druzism, Mandaeism, or the Bábí Faith, contain a similar account of the first Seth. : Noyster (talk), 08:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If that is established it would be far preferable to link each one separately than lump them all together with a vague catchall label covering three quarters of the world. Makes sense maybe? 172.56.35.21 (talk) 11:27, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to the position held by 172... There really isn't such a thing as Abrahamic religions so we should avoid the term as much as we can. However, IMHO religions shouldn't be mentioned at all in the intro. Seth is not a tenet of either of these religions but a person mentioned in the Bible (is he mentioned the Quran?) - this covers any religion that recognises the Book of Genesis (Judaism, Christianity, Samaritans, Rastaris) and also links Seth to the religions that relate to this figures in a more indirect way. Str1977 ^(talk) 13:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hebrew Script

In the top, the Hebrew script translates in Google translate as "Buttock". Can someone please verify this script? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uniquestar (talk • contribs) 00:06, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I went back through the article history and the Hebrew seems to have been deleted by one user and then incorrectly re-added by another, see here and here/ At least I think that's what happened. The correct Hebrew characters are שֵׁתֿ rather than שֵׁת, so to this non-Hebrew reader they seem very similar and this may well have been a good faith mistake. I've corrected the error now. --Boreas74 ^{You'll catch more flies with honey} 13:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lack of daughters/wives?

The family tree doesn't list wives until Zillah/Adah are mentioned. But going on other articles lists known mothers and sisters. Shouldn't they be included? Sephiroth storm (talk) 08:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is an omission to exclude the daughters/wives. Is it a misogynistic exclusion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.152.152 (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Theroadislong

@Theroadislong: please discuss with me here, What is your issue with my edits? IslamMyLoveMyLife (talk) 10:28, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

“Although the Quran makes no mention of Seth, he is revered within Islamic tradition” scans better than your version “Seth is not mentioned by name in the Quran, he is revered within Islamic tradition” Theroadislong (talk) 10:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Birth and death?

I don't know if this has been covered before, but why is this mythological character's birth and death mentioned in the infobox as though there were historical evidence that he existed? Chronikhiles ^(talk) 11:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Depopulation or Ethnic Cleansing?

I replaced the words "ethnic cleansing" with "depopulation" under the headline "Islam" in this sentence: "...Bashshit means Beit Shith, i.e. "House of Seth". The village was depopulated with the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948".

I believe "depopulated" is a more correct word because the village was emptied of all people. The depopulation might have been a part of ethnical cleansing, but I believe that this discussion is best held in other forums. With my choice of words, inflamed rhetorics are kept away from an article which tries to describe the ancient history of Seth, not fuel current politics. At the same time, the establishment of the state of Israel still is mentioned as the cause of moving people from the village.

Is this a good enough compromise? 2001:9B1:8826:0:98:128:186:71 (talk) 18:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]