Talk:Engineers' Club Building

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January 14, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 12, 2021.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Engineers' Club Building (pictured) and Engineering Societies' Building in New York City were described in the mid-20th century as "the engineering crossroads of the world"?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Engineers' Club Building

... that the Engineers' Club Building and Engineering Societies' Building in New York City were described in the mid-20th century as "the engineering crossroads of the world"? Source: Grutzner, Charles (January 26, 1955). "Engineer Center Strains at Seams; 39th and 40th St. Buildings Have Become Inadequate -- Other Cities Beckon". The New York Times.
- ALT1:... that Andrew Carnegie donated $1.5 million in 1904 to develop the Engineers' Club Building and Engineering Societies' Building, which later became "the engineering crossroads of the world"? Source: Grutzner, Charles (January 26, 1955). "Engineer Center Strains at Seams; 39th and 40th St. Buildings Have Become Inadequate -- Other Cities Beckon". The New York Times.
- ALT2:... that the Engineers' Club Building was designed by the brother-in-law of Andrew Carnegie, who also funded the Engineering Societies' Building behind it? Source: "Engineers' Club" (PDF). New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. March 22, 2011. p. 7
- ALT2A:... that one architect of the Engineers' Club Building was the brother-in-law of Andrew Carnegie, who also funded the Engineering Societies' Building behind it? Source: "Engineers' Club" (PDF). New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. March 22, 2011. p. 7

Reviewed: Railroads in New England, Jane Ingham
Comment: Per WP:DYKSG#C3, only the first bolded link in each hook ("Engineering Societies Building") should be counted. But if none of these work, I can propose separate hooks for each one. (Sadly, there is no picture of both buildings at once, so I put the image of the Engineers' Club Building as an optional image.)

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:04, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Epicgenius, these articles are close to my heart as a member of a British equivalent institution, review follows: club building is a new article created on 11 October, societies building was more than 5x expanded on the same date; both articles are well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I only sampled a very small number of the hundreds of sources but found no issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is taken by nominator and appropriately licensed; hooks are interesting, ALT0 and ALT1 check out to the article and source, for ALT2 do we know that Whitfield himself designed the building or just his firm? Awaiting a second QPQ - Dumelow (talk) 07:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow: Thank you for your review. These engineering societies are very interesting to me personally and I'm glad you enjoyed them too. I've done a second QPQ and proposed ALT2A, a secondary hook where it's clarified that Whitfield was one of the architects on the project. Though, if ALT0 and ALT1 have no problems, I suppose we can go with those. Epicgenius (talk) 12:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Epicgenius, looks good - Dumelow (talk) 14:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 to T:DYK/P2