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Family and religious background

Q1: Why isn't Barack Obama's Muslim heritage or education included in this article?

A1: Barack Obama was never a practitioner of Islam. His biological father having been "raised as a Muslim" but being a "confirmed atheist" by the time Obama was born is mentioned in the article. Please see this article on Snopes.com for a fairly in-depth debunking of the myth that Obama is Muslim. Barack Obama did not attend an Islamic or Muslim school while living in Indonesia age 6–10, but Roman Catholic and secular public schools. See [1], [2], [3] The sub-articles Public image of Barack Obama and Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories address this issue.

Q2: The article refers to him as African American, but his mother is white and his black father was not an American. Should he be called African American, or something else ("biracial", "mixed", "Kenyan-American", "mulatto", "quadroon", etc.)?

A2: Obama himself and the media identify him, the vast majority of the time, as African American or black. African American is primarily defined as "citizens or residents of the United States who have origins in any of the black populations of Africa", a statement that accurately describes Obama and does not preclude or negate origins in the white populations of America as well. Thus we use the term African American in the introduction, and address the specifics of his parentage in the first headed section of the article. Many individuals who identify as black have varieties of ancestors from many countries who may identify with other racial or ethnic groups. See our article on race for more information on this concept. We could call him the first "biracial" candidate or the first "half black half white" candidate or the first candidate with a parent born in Africa, but Wikipedia is a tertiary source which reports what other reliable sources say, and most of those other sources say "first African American". Readers will learn more detail about his ethnic background in the article body.

Q3: Why can't we use his full name outside of the lead? It's his name, isn't it?

A3: The relevant part of the Manual of Style says that outside the lead of an article on a person, that person's conventional name is the only one that's appropriate. (Thus one use of "Richard Milhous Nixon" in the lead of Richard Nixon, "Richard Nixon" thereafter.) Talk page consensus has also established this.

Q4: Why is Obama referred to as "Barack Hussein Obama II" in the lead sentence rather than "Barack Hussein Obama, Jr."? Isn't "Jr." more common?

A4: Although "Jr." is typically used when a child shares the name of his or her parent, "II" is considered acceptable, as well. And in Obama's case, the usage on his birth certificate is indeed "II", and is thus the form used at the beginning of this article, per manual of style guidelines on names.

Q5: Why don't we cover the claims that Obama is not a United States citizen, his birth certificate was forged, he was not born in Hawaii, he is ineligible to be President, etc?

A5: The Barack Obama article consists of an overview of major issues in the life and times of the subject. The controversy over his eligibility, citizenship, birth certificate etc is currently a fairly minor issue in overall terms, and has had no significant legal or mainstream political impact. It is therefore not currently appropriate for inclusion in an overview article. These claims are covered separately in Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories.

Controversies, praise, and criticism

Q6: Why isn't there a criticisms/controversies section?

A6: Because a section dedicated to criticisms and controversies is no more appropriate than a section dedicated solely to praise and is an indication of a poorly written article. Criticisms/controversies/praises should be worked into the existing prose of the article, per the Criticism essay.

Q7: Why isn't a certain controversy/criticism/praise included in this article?

A7: Wikipedia's Biography of living persons policy says that "[c]riticism and praise of the subject should be represented if it is relevant to the subject's notability and can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, and so long as the material is written in a manner that does not overwhelm the article or appear to take sides; it needs to be presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a neutral, encyclopedic tone." Criticism or praise that cannot be reliably sourced cannot be placed in a biography. Also, including everything about Obama in a single article would exceed Wikipedia's article size restrictions. A number of sub-articles have been created and some controversies/criticisms/praises have been summarized here or been left out of this article altogether, but are covered in some detail in the sub-articles.

Q8: But this controversy/criticism/praise is all over the news right now! It should be covered in detail in the main article, not buried in a sub-article!

A8: Wikipedia articles should avoid giving undue weight to something just because it is in the news right now. If you feel that the criticism/controversy/praise is not being given enough weight in this article, you can try to start a discussion on the talk page about giving it more. See WP:BRD.

Q9: This article needs much more (or much less) criticism/controversy.

A9: Please try to assume good faith. Like all articles on Wikipedia, this article is a work in progress so it is possible for biases to exist at any point in time. If you see a bias that you wish to address, you are more than welcome to start a new discussion, or join in an existing discussion, but please be ready to provide sources to support your viewpoint and try to keep your comments civil. Starting off your discussion by accusing the editors of this article of having a bias is the quickest way to get your comment ignored.

Talk and article mechanics

Q10: This article is over 275kb long, and the article size guideline says that it should be broken up into sub-articles. Why hasn't this happened?

A10: The restriction mentioned in WP:SIZE is 60kB of readable prose, not the byte count you see when you open the page for editing. As of May 11, 2016, this article had about 10,570 words of readable prose (65 kB according to prosesize tool), only slightly above the guideline. The rest is mainly citations and invisible comments, which do not count towards the limit.

Q11: I notice this FAQ mentions starting discussions or joining in on existing discussions a lot. If Wikipedia is supposed to be the encyclopedia anyone can edit, shouldn't I just be bold and fix any biases that I see in the article?

A11: It is true that Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit and no one needs the permission of other editors of this article to make changes to it. But Wikipedia policy is that, "While the consensus process does not require posting to the discussion page, it can be useful and is encouraged." This article attracts editors that have very strong opinions about Obama (positive and negative) and these editors have different opinions about what should and should not be in the article, including differences as to appropriate level of detail. As a result of this it may be helpful, as a way to avoid content disputes, to seek consensus before adding contentious material to or removing it from the article.

Q12: The article/talk page has been vandalized! Why hasn't anyone fixed this?

A12: Many editors watch this article, and it is unlikely that vandalism would remain unnoticed for long. It is possible that you are viewing a cached result of the article; If so, try bypassing your cache.

Disruption

Q13: Why are so many discussions closed so quickly?

A13: Swift closure is common for topics that have already been discussed repeatedly, topics pushing fringe theories, and topics that would lead to violations of Wikipedia's policy concerning biographies of living persons, because of their disruptive nature and the unlikelihood that consensus to include the material will arise from the new discussion. In those cases, editors are encouraged to read this FAQ for examples of such common topics.

Q14: I added new content to the article, but it was removed!

A14: Double-check that your content addition is not sourced to an opinion blog, editorial, or non-mainstream news source. Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons states, in part, "Material about living persons must be sourced very carefully. Without reliable third-party sources, it may include original research and unverifiable statements, and could lead to libel claims." Sources of information must be of a very high quality for biographies. While this does not result in an outright ban of all blogs and opinion pieces, most of them are regarded as questionable. Inflammatory or potentially libelous content cited to a questionable source will be removed immediately without discussion.

Q15: I disagree with the policies and content guidelines that prevent my proposed content from being added to the article.

A15: That's understandable. Wikipedia is a work in progress. If you do not approve of a policy cited in the removal of content, it's possible to change it. Making cogent, logical arguments on the policy's talk page is likely to result in a positive alteration. This is highly encouraged. However, this talk page is not the appropriate place to dispute the wording used in policies and guidelines. If you disagree with the interpretation of a policy or guideline, there is also recourse: Dispute resolution. Using the dispute resolution process prevents edit wars, and is encouraged.

Q16: I saw someone start a discussion on a topic raised by a blog/opinion piece, and it was reverted!

A16: Unfortunately, due to its high profile, this talk page sees a lot of attempts to argue for policy- and guideline-violating content – sometimes the same violations many times a day. These are regarded as disruptive, as outlined above. Consensus can change; material previously determined to be unacceptable may become acceptable. But it becomes disruptive and exhausting when single-purpose accounts raise the same subject(s) repeatedly in the apparent hopes of overcoming significant objections by other editors. Editors have reached a consensus for dealing with this behavior:

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Other

Q17: Why aren't the 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns covered in more detail?

A17: They are, in sub-articles called Barack Obama 2008 presidential campaign and Barack Obama 2012 presidential campaign. Things that are notable in the context of the presidential campaigns, but are of minimal notability to Barack Obama's overall biography, belong in the sub-articles. Campaign stops, the presidential debates, and the back-and-forth accusations and claims of the campaigns can all be found there.

Barack Obama is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on August 18, 2004, and on November 4, 2008.

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Alison Stewart, Rachel Martin (April 3, 2008). "'Round the Clock: Obama, Clinton Wiki-Warfare". The Bryant Park Project, NPR.
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"Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger says online encyclopedia scrapped neutrality, favors lefty politics". Fox News. 2020-05-21. Retrieved 2020-05-22. The first example pointed out by the site's co-founder is that President Barack Obama's page "completely fails to mention many well-known scandals" such as Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the AP phone records scandal and the so-called "Fast and Furious" operation.

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Section sizes

Section size for Barack Obama (57 sections)
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(Top)	8,214	8,214
Early life and career	14,099	73,911
Education	29,939	29,939
Family and personal life	21,864	21,864
Religious views	8,009	8,009
Legal career	17	1,655
Civil rights attorney	1,638	1,638
Legislative career	23	28,321
Illinois Senate (1997–2004)	10,948	10,948
2004 U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois	5,294	5,294
U.S. Senate (2005–2008)	12,056	12,056
Presidential campaigns	27	22,503
2008	13,238	13,238
2012	9,238	9,238
Presidency (2009–2017)	123	136,193
First 100 days	5,325	5,325
Domestic policy	13,196	75,048
Racial issues	8,067	8,067
LGBT rights	3,177	8,968
Same-sex marriage	5,791	5,791
Economic policy	21,828	21,828
Environmental policy	8,995	8,995
Health care reform	13,994	13,994
Foreign policy	9,784	55,697
War in Iraq	5,664	5,664
Afghanistan and Pakistan	4,298	9,564
Death of Osama bin Laden	5,266	5,266
Relations with Cuba	4,237	4,237
Israel	7,588	7,588
Libya	6,464	6,464
Syrian civil war	4,217	4,217
Iran nuclear talks	3,681	3,681
Russia	4,498	4,498
Cultural and political image	3,921	18,340
Job approval	8,510	8,510
Foreign perceptions	5,409	5,409
Thanks, Obama	500	500
Post-presidency (2017–present)	21,326	21,326
Legacy and recognition	14,128	15,922
Presidential library	619	619
Awards and honors	1,111	1,111
Eponymy	64	64
Bibliography	69	5,471
Books	1,134	1,134
Audiobooks	216	216
Articles	4,052	4,052
See also	98	1,214
Politics	474	474
Other	64	64
Lists	578	578
Notes	24	24
References	48,846	50,500
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Further reading	2,179	2,179
External links	308	8,575
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Not done: It's not clear what needs to be done, and the image you added is already in the article. ⸺(Random)staplers 17:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In July 2024, Obama encouraged efforts that lead to Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential election, saying that his path to winning re-election had "greatly diminished."^[1] Obama did, however, praise Biden's work as president, saying that "Joe Biden has been one of America's most consequential presidents" and that Biden "wouldn't make this decision unless he believed it was right for America."^[2] He later endorsed presumptive nominee and vice president Kamala Harris.^[3]

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In July 2024, Obama condemned the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump and called for a return to civility in U.S. politics.^[4] He also encouraged efforts that led to Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential election, saying that Biden’s path to winning re-election had "greatly diminished."^[5] Obama did, however, praise Biden's work as president, saying that "Joe Biden has been one of America's most consequential presidents" and that Biden "wouldn't make this decision unless he believed it was right for America."^[6] He later endorsed presumptive nominee and vice president Kamala Harris.^[7] 2601:240:4180:CB80:151F:3ACD:A4CA:23CA (talk) 15:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Added as a separate sentence since the events aren't related, thanks. Jamedeus (talk) 20:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It strikes me as bloat. Condemning an assassination attempt is par for the course. Nobody expected him not to condemn it. It is like expressing condolences. It is especially jarring as a standalone paragraph. Surtsicna (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Pager, Tyler; Scherer, Michael (2024-07-18). "Obama tells allies Biden's path to winning reelection has greatly diminished". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-07-21.
^ Obama, Barack (July 21, 2024). "Bill and Hillary Clinton Endorse Kamala Harris". Medium. Archived from the original on July 21, 2024. Retrieved July 21, 2024.
^ Smith, David; Tait, Robert (2024-07-26). "Barack Obama endorses Kamala Harris for president in 2024 US election". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-07-26.
^ Samuels, Brett (July 13, 2024). "Obama condemns apparent shooting at Trump rally, wishes former president 'quick recovery'". The Hill. Retrieved July 14, 2024.
^ Pager, Tyler; Scherer, Michael (2024-07-18). "Obama tells allies Biden's path to winning reelection has greatly diminished". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-07-21.
^ Obama, Barack (July 21, 2024). "Bill and Hillary Clinton Endorse Kamala Harris". Medium. Archived from the original on July 21, 2024. Retrieved July 21, 2024.
^ Smith, David; Tait, Robert (2024-07-26). "Barack Obama endorses Kamala Harris for president in 2024 US election". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-07-26.

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In July 2024, Obama encouraged efforts that lead to Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential election, saying that his path to winning re-election had "greatly diminished."^[1] Obama did, however, praise Biden's work as president, saying that "Joe Biden has been one of America's most consequential presidents" and that Biden "wouldn't make this decision unless he believed it was right for America."^[2] He later endorsed presumptive nominee and vice president Kamala Harris.^[3]

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Obama condemned the assassination attempt on former President Trump on July 13, 2024, wishing Trump a quick recovery and called for a restoration of “civility and respect” in politics.^[4] Additionally, Obama encouraged efforts that led to President Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 presidential election, saying that his path to winning re-election had "greatly diminished."^[5] Obama did, however, praise Biden's work as president, saying that "Joe Biden has been one of America's most consequential presidents" and that Biden "wouldn't make this decision unless he believed it was right for America."^[6] He later endorsed presumptive nominee and vice president Kamala Harris.^[7] 2601:240:4180:CB80:5572:2442:68D0:5998 (talk) 15:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Pager, Tyler; Scherer, Michael (2024-07-18). "Obama tells allies Biden's path to winning reelection has greatly diminished". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-07-21.
^ Obama, Barack (July 21, 2024). "Bill and Hillary Clinton Endorse Kamala Harris". Medium. Archived from the original on July 21, 2024. Retrieved July 21, 2024.
^ Smith, David; Tait, Robert (2024-07-26). "Barack Obama endorses Kamala Harris for president in 2024 US election". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-07-26.
^ Samuels, Brett (July 13, 2024). "Obama condemns apparent shooting at Trump rally, wishes former president 'quick recovery'". The Hill. Retrieved July 14, 2024.
^ Pager, Tyler; Scherer, Michael (2024-07-18). "Obama tells allies Biden's path to winning reelection has greatly diminished". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2024-07-21.
^ Obama, Barack (July 21, 2024). "Bill and Hillary Clinton Endorse Kamala Harris". Medium. Archived from the original on July 21, 2024. Retrieved July 21, 2024.
^ Smith, David; Tait, Robert (2024-07-26). "Barack Obama endorses Kamala Harris for president in 2024 US election". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-07-26.

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. It appears you previously requested this edit, it was done, and then it was reverted by @Surtsicna: (see Special:Diff/1244062399 meamemg (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He is not African-American!

He is American, but not descendant of American chattel slavery. 69.121.109.19 (talk) 22:07, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is his father from? Who ever said that to be African American you must be descendant of American chattel slavery? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:24, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I know American racial labels are often illogical, but to say an American with an African father is not African-American is pushing that lack of logic too far. HiLo48 (talk)

He's widely (nearly universally) referred to as African American in the sources, so it's appropriate for us to use the term here. I was going to say that people who want to know about the nuances of meaning of the term can just click through to African-American and read about it there, but then I realized we had the link pointing to an article about African American presidents in pop culture. So I fixed that, and now anyone who wants to know the nuances of meaning of the term and its relationship with the history of American chattel slavery can click through to African-American which covers the subject in depth. Thanks for bringing this to our attention! -- LWG ^talk 16:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This view exist, see American Descendants of Slavery, but it is not atm the prevailing one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He wasn’t president in 2017

Idk why it says that but it isn’t true 72.74.28.171 (talk) 23:06, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His term ended on January 20th, 2017, so he was still President during those nineteen days, plus twelve hours. CRBoyer 23:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In the section "Presidency -> Domestic Policy" the subheader for "Same-sex marriage" should be formatted as a subheader. Currently it is accidentally just normal text.

In the source:

Same-sex marriage

Should change to:

====Same-sex marriage==== Barrtender (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The error seems to have been in the article for a while, thanks for pointing it out.--Commander Keane (talk) 01:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has been reversed, correctly. The subheader level 5 looks like normal text on mobile, thus stands out like a saw thumb. Also on mobile you never get to see the nesting illustrated in the table of contents. Desktop is another story. Interestingly I checked the level of the heading directly above (LGBT rights) but didn't make the connection between the sections (probably my own bias considering same-sex marriage a civil fundamental civil right rather than an LGBT thing). Commander Keane (talk) 03:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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He was not the first African American President. Hamilton was. 74.70.210.158 (talk) 23:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Hamilton was never the President.CRBoyer 23:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Check this particular edit: [4].

As a member of the Democratic Party, he was the first African-American president in U.S. history.

Am I alone at thinking that this sentence is slightly confusing because it lacks the logical flow that is expected in a sentence starting with "As"? "As it's late, I'm going to bed". Or compare with these two examples that make a lot more sense in my opinion:

As the son of a Kenyan national, he was the first African-American president in U.S. history.

As a member of the Democratic Party, he was elected U.S. President.

I would suggest to go back to the original:

A member of the Democratic Party, he was the first African-American president in U.S. history.

Thanks. Truc Bizarre (talk) 11:58, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Truc Bizarre I think it is fine as is, it implies he was a member of the Democratic party when he was president, he still is, but I think it is fine. Seawolf35 HGAV (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done I'm actually going to agree with Truc Bizarre here, the "as" infers a correlation between the two clauses that doesn't exist, so I removed it. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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