Wikipedia talk:WikiProject British crime/Archive 1

Archive 1

British crime in film and popular culture

What about The Long Good Friday? I know for a fact the criminal underworld revolves around Bob Hoskins. --81.79.29.103 15:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Project banner image

If you want a particularly eye-catching image for the project banner, I like Image:John Tenniel - Punch - Ripper cartoon.png. Having any image would definitely help draw attention to the banner. Best of luck with the project! Badbilltucker 17:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow, great picture! I've added it to Template:WP British Crime Invitation for the other members to take a look (as it is certainly in need of a good image). I and the project certainly appreciate your assintance and I'm sure the project founder will be interested. MadMax 07:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Crime

• It seems a proposal for WikiProject Crime has been made, in case anyone wants to voice their opinion. Personally, I think such a project would be ideal for possible collaberations with Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian crime among other related projects. MadMax 19:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

• The following articles have been proposed for deletion:

1. Ebony Simpson, an Australian murder victim nominated on the basis of being a non notable/memorial entry. Interestingly enough, it has been proposed by one editor to merge the victim to the crime, which has apparently been becoming common practice.
2. CrimeLine - a non notable/unverified organization.
3. Dean Roberts (criminal) - non notible drug dealer
4. Michael Tyrell (drug trafficker) - non notable criminal

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MadMax (talk • contribs) 04:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Naming conventions concerning ethnic organized crime articles

There has been a recent cfd/renaming discussion relating to Category:Gangs by ethnicity as well as all ethnic and historically related street gang categorires which includes Historical gangs of London (a subcategory of Historical criminals of London) and I assume will effect naming conventions of general crime related categories to eliminate ethnicity from crime related categories.

On a related note, a related discussion on changing Jewish-American organized crime to a "less offensive and accusatory" title will also effect article naming conventions for similar organized crime related articles such as Talk:African-American organized crime and Talk:Greek-American organized crime and I assume related British articles as well.

Also, there has been some discussion regarding about a possible "collaberation of the week" between the various crime related WikiProject and I was wondering f that would be of interest to anyone ? MadMax 23:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Peer review

John Martin Scripps, an article on a serial killer from Hertfordshire, has been listed for peer review. Feel free to comment and leave suggestions on the review page. Resurgent insurgent 14:34, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

And now it's a featured article candidate. You can leave comments here. Resurgent insurgent 10:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Patrick Mackay and John Childs and others stubbed

Both were egregious WP:BLP violations. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 05:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Also stubbed Timothy Morss, Gary Nelson, William Danso, Patrick Dunne (murder victim), John O'Shaugnessey and Brett Tyler. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 06:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

And Gurmej Rai, Arthur Hutchinson, John McGrady and Muzzaker Shah. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 07:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Moira Anderson case

Could someone give the Moira McCall Anderson, Moira Anderson Foundation and Sandra Brown (campaigner) articles a look-over for notability/sourcing/neutrality? Tearlach 09:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

New list

List of people convicted under Anti-Terrorism Act in the United Kingdom, would appreciate help with this list - especially from UK members! Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 19:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Prisons

If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation of articles regarding specific prisons here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 20:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Ipswich 2006 serial murders

This article has recently passed the GA review process and I have requested a peer review to see in what ways it could firther be imporved. Your comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Million_Moments (talk) 11:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation

We are Wikimedia UK - the group of local Wikimedians helping the Foundation to create "a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge". Love Wikipedia? Based in the UK? Can you support us in projects such as generating free-content photographs, freeing up archive material and media relations? Or are there other projects you'd like us to help with? if so, please click here to Join up, Donate and Get Involved

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John Haase and Paul Bennett

These two (uncle/nephew, from Liverpool) are serving 20 years each for drugs trafficking and perverting the course of justice. They were the subject of a long Customs & Excise investigation which was detailed in a book ("Lima 3" by Harry Ferguson), convicted of heroin distribution, then pardoned after less than a year by the Home Secretary for providing information leading to the seizure of many firearms. After a long investigation it was concluded that this was a set-up and the weapons belonged to the pair in the first place. They were convicted and sentenced to 20 years each. They claimed that Michael Howard took a bribe (not substantiated), and Peter Kilfoyle MP spent some time campaigning for an investigation.

My question is whether they deserve an article? Personally I think the number of newspaper articles on the various trials, the book, and the involvement of the Home Secretary (the case is mentioned in the wiki on Royal Pardons) make them notable. I've started an outline here. If I reference it properly and obey WP:BLP, do others agree that this will make a decent article? I don't want to waste my time if it's not going to meet the criteria.

regards, TrulyBlue (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Robin Hood

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Murder of Julia Martha Thomas featured article nomination

Murder of Julia Martha Thomas, about a notorious murder in London in 1879, is currently going through a review for featured article status (see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Murder of Julia Martha Thomas/archive1). The article is covered by this WikiProject; if editors are interested, please feel free to leave comments on the featured article candidates talk page. Prioryman (talk) 13:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merger and page move

There is a proposal to merge Fred West and Rosemary West into a single article entitled Fred and Rosemary West. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Rochdale sex trafficking gang

I would welcome some alternative views/voices on this article. I got involved about two months after the article was originally started, and have put some work into expanding this and including cited information which outlines the importance of this case. A couple of editors have just weighed in, one of them suggesting it should be placed on AfD. This seems extreme to me: in fact I would argue that the ramifications of this case are already important and are yet to be fully realised, given that even now there's a government research going on which was prompted by the case and which is not due to reach completion for well over another year. But I think the article could certainly do with more editors working on it to get it balanced and up to scratch. At the moment it seems to be just me, plus the two editors who appear to be working as a team.

Hope to see you there. Alfietucker (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Britons convicted of offences outside the UK

I know this project deals with British crime, but am wondering if there is a remit for including Britons convicted abroad. I'm interested as I've been working on an article about the Lindsay Sandiford case today. Any thoughts? Paul MacDermott (talk) 16:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Chris Huhne, Vicky Pryce, Southwark Crown Court and equal justice for all?

I received an email with the case of "Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce each jailed for eight months” as a good example of equal justice for all. Others were more or less condemned by identical causes? All who lie to the English justice are sentenced to eight months in prison and 120,000 pounds? Or just politicians? - --Pires Portugal (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Penge murders

I have just created this page. I usually only write about horse racing so this is a big departure for me and I would like someone more experienced in this field to take a look at it. Tigerboy1966  17:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Murder of Ross Parker

Related move discussion which won't show on Project alerts. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for posting this. The murder of Ross Parker article is currently a featured article candidate so any input into review would be welcome.--Shakehandsman (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham has just been released, and has been picked up by all the major British news media. What it reports is absolutely horrific. This is one of the most serious abuse scandals in UK history, and is a major UK crime story that requires in-depth coverage on Wikipedia. -- The Anome (talk) 16:37, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Expert attention

This is a notice about Category:British crime articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Crime Team

I have created a new article for the TV series Crime Team. Please add more details if you have them. There are 2 redlinked articles related to crimes investigated in the series which could be created. I have a recollection that Frankie Fraser appeared in one episode but can't find a reference. JeanPassepartout (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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Draft:Murder of Jo Cox

There is sufficient independent notability for the first fatal attack on a British MP for a quarter of a century for a separate article. Coverage relating to the suspect and the motivation are not best covered in the biography of the victim. Please assist at Draft:Murder of Jo Cox AusLondonder (talk) 02:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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Death of Keith Blakelock listed at Requested moves

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Stabbing of David Amess listed at Requested moves

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Killing of David Amess listed at Requested moves

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Barry Horne listed at Requested moves

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Sticker scam listed at Requested moves

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Joel Smith (murderer) listed at Requested moves

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Glasgow ice cream wars listed at Requested moves

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Murder of Don Banfield listed at Requested moves

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Murder of Maxwell Confait listed at Requested moves

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Shooting of Yassar Yaqub listed at Requested moves

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Rotherham shoe rapist listed at Requested moves

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R v Rhian Graham, Milo Ponsford, Jake Skuse and Sage Willoughby listed at Requested moves

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2010 Northumbria Police manhunt listed at Requested moves

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RfC - See also - Michael Stone

There's an ongoing RfC at Talk:Michael Stone (criminal)#RfC - See also section of relevance to this project. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Rfc - Richard D. Gill and Kate Shemirani

There's an ongoing RfC at Talk:Richard D. Gill#Rfc - Kate Shemirani radio show appearance of relevance to this project. Structuralists (talk) 21:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Assassination of Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma listed at Requested moves

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Michael Fagan (intruder) listed at Requested moves

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Alleged prison escape of Daniel Khalife listed at Requested moves

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