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Judge requested move

I've opened up a move request for about whether the article for the Judge manga series should be at Judge (manga) or Judge (OAV). —Farix (t | c) 18:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The move request is located here. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:25, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Tokyopop....

All in ANN news title:

News: Tokyopop to Close North American Publishing Division (Update 3)

Who is going to archive the whole catalog ?

--KrebMarkt (talk) 21:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there a PDF of the Tokyopop catalog? WhisperToMe (talk) 08:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't believe TP has a PDF of their catalog. I've started a user subpage here: User:WhiteArcticWolf/Tokyopop. TP has sent an e-mail stating that their site will officially go offline on Tuesday, April 26. Help with archiving would appreciated. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 20:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

How complete is our listing at Category:Tokyopop titles? Does it have all of the notable ones, or are there still some missing? --Malkinann (talk) 01:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I have 29 N titles webcited, it contains their release dates but not their ISBN. I also have a more recent cited webpage of it but it seemed to have stopped working when the shop closed down. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

For information i archived a lot of page alphabetically here. However i doubt i can do it all by myself with so few time remaining. Webcitation limits to 99 pages archive afterward you have to wait 1 hour to archive again. --KrebMarkt (talk) 19:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

- Update: Tokyopop flipped the switch near 3000 books/refs removed from internet in mere instant. --KrebMarkt (talk) 06:35, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

They killed it early. I guess we'll have to rely on Amazon for the other release dates. Also, Glass Wings and The Embalmer pages also contain archived TP pages. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 09:26, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

That's strange, http://blumanga.com/ is still up. --Malkinann (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Dororon Enma-kun and Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera

Some days ago I created a small article for Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera, the remake of Dororon Enma-kun. However, when I was about to add more information of the recent episodes of Meeramera, I noticed that List of Dororon Enma-kun episodes already has the episodes there and some text about the series. Should Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera be merged with Dororon Enma-kun or should they be handled separately? Personally, I believe that they should not be together. Jfgslo (talk) 16:00, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Remakes or re-imaginings of series rarely, if ever, get separate articles. If there's enough content to warrant a separate article, then split it, otherwise they should be merged. The only series I can think of that got a second article was Negima!?, and that's only because it's story is much different from the original content. Other series remakes that have no separate article include Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball Z Kai, Kanon, among others. Considering the content of Meeramera, I believe it could easily be merged into the main Dororon Enma-kun article.--十八 19:48, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. As you suggested, I have merged the content of Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera into Dororon Enma-kun. I think I did not omit anything of value. Jfgslo (talk) 22:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Issue with Gundam SEED sources

While trying to clean up the Gundam SEED character articles starting with Kira Yamato, I couldn't find any interview with the series director or writer. I've searched online but only found blogs without stating where do the interviews come from. Apparently, none of the DVDs have a small coment from the director, and I wonder if anybody knew where to find something like that. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 15:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

VNDB (Visual Novel Database)

someone need to write the article about them. [1] --Ald™ ¬_¬™ 05:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

There is a Request section for this.陣内 _Jinnai 15:20, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Animes second season continuation lists

There seems to be no clear guidelines on how to handle them. The anime series Gintama is continued with Gintama' and it will have two episode lists entitled List of Gintama episodes and List of Gintama' episodes. As far as I know, only three other anime series are continued like this; Naruto, The World God Only Knows, and Hayate the Combat Butler. I proposed a split of List of The World God Only Knows episodes into two separate episode lists but it is argued that due to the episode count, they should remain a single list. I'm not sure if that would be the case for Hayate also and would like some insight on those two lists. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 11:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Unless both seasons are very short (11 to 14 episodes each), I don't see why each season shouldn't have it's own list. And if they are different series within the same franchise, then they should have different lists. —Farix (t | c) 12:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but it would be difficult convincing those who oppose this without referencing the guidelines. Perhaps anime episode lists should have a small section on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles) about this. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 20:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'd be a bit wary of giving blanket approval. Multuple seasons of 20+ 5-minute episodes can and should be on one page. The episode summaries and release/dev info don't warrant seperate pages. I'm looking at Hetalia as an example.陣内 _Jinnai 23:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

If it was me, I would have probably separated that list too. Is the episode count not reset? I'm pretty sure World Series reset back to 1 yet the episode list says it is episode 53. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

And I would propbably demand they'd be remerged because just because they have X number of episodes should not be a hard-and-fast rule they get a new spinout article. Unless there was major production changes, new studios, new team members, new everything basically, then all of that info could easily be covered in the lead and the episode summaries are small enough they don't warrant spinning out an article.陣内 _Jinnai 15:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

But then there are series like Spice and Wolf, which had a different studio for each season, though both seasons are easily organized into a single article. Discussions of splitting episode lists should be done on a case-by-case basis, and I don't feel a creepy guideline would be helpful in this instance. I'd also be against a split of List of Hayate the Combat Butler episodes.--十八 19:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hayate is going to have a third season soon. With two seasons, it has reached about 70k bytes and its lead is not even decent. Its going to have to be split sooner or later. I suppose if episode lists number over 100 they should be split. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:28, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I think something should be done, but I'm not sure what would be a good way to do it. I think the issue of character mutliple character lists for a single series is probably more relevant.陣内 _Jinnai 19:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Pokemon species

Do we need a fricking article for every one of the 200 pokemons (or about 100 evolutionary lines?) --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 16:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Pokémon is thataway. —Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 208.124.73.15 (talk) ^{(what's this?)} 16:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

But to answer your question, no we don't "need" it, any more than we "need" an article on toilet paper, Canada, or Windex, as three random examples. What is your actual objection? 159.182.1.4 (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

We don't need articles on non important pokemon that are not "rare" or play no "significant" role within the series. On the other hand, the three articles you listed have a major role in everyday life. Those are simply game characters/cartoon! For that reason we don't have a ton of game character floating around Wikipedia... I think. --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Well toilet paper might be just as useful to some as some types of pokemon. If you think indivisual ones are problematic, take that up with the wikiproject or the various talk pages. Beyond saying the very generic "we don't need 1 article/pokemon, that requires more local consensus.陣内 _Jinnai 18:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

As an effort to combine threads for easier following, please go to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pokémon#Pokemon_articles for disucssion of Pokemon notabilities --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Just to note, most individual Pokemon article appeared to have been done well with some possessing a lot of third party sources to pass WP:Notability. I know that some of the editors that are writing them have already made some great video game characters article, so I wouldn't assume bad faith.Tintor2 (talk) 23:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Wait, I clearly missed something, because last I checked we once had an article for every Pokemon, then this was consolidated into a few lists, with only a few notable ones, like Pikachu or Charizard. Since when have a large amount of them been recreated? Is this leading to a reemergence of the Pokemon test at AFD?--十八 05:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

No but it led me to make a huge AFD request for all of the "non notable" ingame characters. --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 09:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Animeondvd's editor moved to thefandompost

According to this, the creator from AnimeonDVD.com Chris Beveridge moved to the site Fandompost where he continues writing anime or manga reviews like this one. I have never heard of the Fandompost, but would it be considered a reliable source for reviews? Well, maybe it requires discussion in the online reliable sources page. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 02:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any reason why he would be less reliable after the move; I've added it to the CSE. --Gwern (contribs) 02:07 1 May 2011 (GMT)

For what's matter there is no new anime/manga review on Mania.com since April 24, 2011. --KrebMarkt (talk) 18:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Tono to Issho

Anyone want to help expand Tono to Issho before I move it from my user space? I'm not sure if any of the preview guides touched on this series. —Farix (t | c) 01:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

As ever, I will point out that my CSE delivers nice results... --Gwern (contribs) 18:36 5 May 2011 (GMT)

FLRC List of The Adventures of Mini-Goddess episodes

Found here. Still no consensus for delist or keep. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 18:35, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Gundam SEED Astray mergers

I did the mergings in the Gundam SEED character list as it was discussed in 2009 apparently, leaving only with their own articles Kira Yamato, Athrun Zala, Cagalli Yula Athha, Lacus Clyne and Shinn Asuka after working in reception. However, there is also a List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Astray characters with eight characters lacking reception. I would work in that, but I have no access to the Astray series so I have no knowledge from it. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 00:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for FPC

I nominated the picture at right at FPC (Link to the Voting). Since the last voting on the original version of this image image got stalled, because it is "to revealing for the mainpage" and used the dutch angle, in nominated this version instead. Maybe you want to take a look at it and correct some misunderstandings, which occurred quite often in other elections with a similar topic. --Niabot (talk) 17:03, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Some archiving issue for airdates

For some reason when using webcitation.org to archive the Adult Swim air dates (from whose premiering anime are Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Bleach and Kekkaishi) now only archives for me the December 2010/February 2011 schedule. Does anybody know if it is an issue from my IP account or from the site? By the way, The Internet Way Back Machine has only Adult Swim schedules from 2009. It could be useful if it could autoarchive the ones from future dates for anime series premiering there, but I am unable to request that. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't follow. When I go to http://webcitation.org/query.php and punch in http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/onair.html I see in the pulldown box 11 archived dates from 2009 through 2011. What's the issue?

There's no way to request repeating archives on WebCite's side of things; you have to arrange that yourself. However, I could help you out there - I run on my laptop an archiver daemon which submits URLs to WebCite & IA, so I could add a monthly cron job to add random URLs to the queue. (No guarantees, of course.)

As for the IA, yeah, they've been lagging behind a lot. I noticed that they were blowing their supposed 6-month embargo by months and years back in 2010 (one reason I'm big on WebCite now - at least there I can see quickly whether a page is archived or not). As far as I can tell, this is due to their massive switch from their old system to their fancy new one. Hopefully all the data has been collected as usual and will be migrated over eventually. But maybe not, it's not the biggest or well-funded organization around... This wouldn't be a big issue if there were an ArchiveIt account for the WMF we could use, but I have yet to hear hide or hair about that. --Gwern (contribs) 23:38 7 May 2011 (GMT)

The problem is that the ones from April and May 2011 actually show airdates from December 2010 and January 2011. I know webcitation has some issues, but the adultswim urls get updated and all the previous information is deleted.Tintor2 (talk) 00:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Done...

The page The Archive

For future archiving, better use the link above. I guess there are some javascript screw-ups in the OnAir page but the schedule image resource is still available if you do some some code source reading.

--KrebMarkt (talk) 07:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Is this within the project's scope?

User:TheFarix keeps reverting my inclusion of the Uncle Yo article in the scope of this project. He points to Wikipedia:ANIME#Project_scope - fair, but I think a comedian who specializes in anime/otaku humor and performs mostly at anime conventions falls within the scope, per "Composers, bands and musicians based primarily around anime or manga" and/or "Major aspects of fandom". Thoughts appreciated. PS. Interested editors may also want to voice their opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uncle Yo. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Cannot really comment on scope, but if the article is within scope, the WP:ANIME assessment would have been Stub (contains very little content at present), and Low (Mid requires "Individuals with a career of internationally successful or critically acclaimed works") per WP:ANIME/ASSESS. G.A.S ^talk 04:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Lists of non-english voice actors

The following previous discussions refers:

Am I correct in assuming that the consensus still applies

Not to list non-english voice actors on en.wiki?
Not to list voice actors except in the list of characters?

If so, what do we do about the following?

G.A.S ^talk 15:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

As the page names aren't likely search terms, I'd suggest AfDing them as content forks of their respective character lists. Good raise 23:36, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles nominated to AFD. G.A.S ^talk 15:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Can someone take a look at 207.235.163.2's edits

I've noticed 207.235.163.2 adding a lot of anime and manga to the category Category:Children's manga which I don't think belong to that category. I seem to remember someone doing the same thing in the past, but I can't remember if that was a person with an account or another IP address. Regardless, can someone please take a look at this user's edits and try to get them to stop doing this. Calathan (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Spot checking a few, such as Ranma ½ and Ben 10 (TV series), these changes seem to be based entirely on the editor personal views and not those of reliable sources. Article in Category:Children's manga should be those that have been serialized in a children's manga magazine. Shōnen and shōjo manga should not be in this category to begin with. Inclusion of Category:Japanese children's television series should only be done when there is a reliable source verifying the category. —Farix (t | c) 14:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Translation check

I like someone to double check the Google translations at User:TheFarix/List of Inazuma Eleven episodes. After finishing up the lead, I'm plan on moving the episode list into article space. —Farix (t | c) 15:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Hunter × Hunter‎ up for Peer Review

I've got Hunter × Hunter‎ up for Peer Review here. Just as I did with YuYu Hakusho, I've listed it to hopefully get it to GA status. Please come share your thoughts. Thanks, ~ Hibana (talk) 02:39, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Populating English publisher categories?

Is it possible to use AWB to populate the English publisher categories further, from Category:Manga series? The following companies leap to mind:

Category:ADV Manga for ADV Manga
Category:Central Park Media for Central Park Media
Category:CMX titles for CMX Manga
Category:Dark Horse Comics titles for Dark Horse Comics
Category:Del Rey Manga for Del Rey Manga
Category:Last Gasp titles for Last Gasp
Category:Media Blasters for Media Blasters
Category:Seven Seas Entertainment titles for Seven Seas Entertainment
Category:Tokyopop titles for Tokyopop
Category:Viz Media manga for Viz Media (Viz Communications)
Category:Yen Press titles for Yen Press

Thanks for any advice or help on this. --Malkinann (talk) 04:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Before we tackle that problem, shouldn't these cats be standardized? Some of them are "Company titles", others "Company manga", and others are just the name of the company. How about we use "Company titles" for all of them?--十八 07:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

That sounds like unnecessary creep before taking on a necessary task - sorting series which have been licensed in English into the relevant licenser's category, so that the categories can be useful. --Malkinann (talk) 07:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that these cats were originally removed from anime and manga articles do to WP:OVERCAT. It doesn't seem right to add a category for English language licensors and not for other languages. But adding other language licensors would definitely be too much. In fact, I'm sure that it was an earlier consensus to only added an English language cat if the work was originally published by an English language publisher, such as comics that bill themselves as OEL manga. —Farix (t | c) 11:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

"It doesn't seem right to add a category for English language licensors and not for other languages." I'm not sure I agree with this. Since this is the English-language Wikipedia, presumably readers are most interested if a work is available in English. And conversely, would make it relatively easy to see the works published by a particular publisher without cluttering the publisher's article with an immense list. - JRBrown (talk) 12:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

"Since this is the English-language Wikipedia, presumably readers are most interested if a work is available in English." Which is a systemic bias and something we should do our best to minimize, if not outright avoid. Being an English-language Wikipedia only means that the articles are written in English. That doesn't mean that the articles should take an English-language POV by containing information of most interest to English language readers. That's why the notability guidelines aren't limited to just notability in English-language source. To avoid the systemic bias, all licensors categories, regardless of languages, should be listed. But doing so will be over-categorization, so it is much better to list the original publisher(s). —Farix (t | c) 13:20, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible, then, to use AWB or similar to automate the categorisation of manga articles into categories by their original publisher? E.g. Category:Shueisha titles, Category:Kodansha titles, etc? Because, while there are hundreds of articles not in an English publisher's category, there are thousands not in a Japanese publisher's category. --Malkinann (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Why were the categories created in the first place? I seem to recall them being a compromise measure between having the titles published by a company listed in the company's article and not having them listed as such at all? --Malkinann (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Subset

These series are not in an English publisher's category, and neither have they been made into a film, series, or OVA. --Malkinann (talk) 12:40, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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Boku wo Tsutsumu Tsuki no Hikari	7831921	1655	20110513184228	1	(Article)
Bomber Girl	19614951	3561	20110513181645	1	(Article)
Bond(z)	25446779	2615	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Bondage Fairies	779636	6053	20110513181449	1	(Article)
Bow Wow Wata	12790078	3041	20110513182009	1	(Article)
Boy's Next Door	2411453	5617	20110513174213	1	(Article)
Boys'n Girl	10868045	1973	20110513190456	1	(Article)
Boys Love (manga)	26368512	1929	20110513181722	1	(Article)
Break Shot	9410233	3663	20110513181642	1	(Article)
Brilliant Blue (manga)	25169441	4217	20110513174902	1	(Article)
Brilliant Magic	11882668	2950	20110513174952	1	(Article)
Brother (manga)	7676484	2358	20110513184122	1	(Article)
Butsu Zone	565339	8867	20110513185400	1	(Article)
BxB Brothers	8827395	4693	20110513181307	1	(Article)
By the Sword (manga)	7880592	2069	20110516021509	1	(Article)
Byakuren no Fangu	13850448	3817	20110513174220	1	(Article)
Bōken Shōnen	12242655	7279	20110513175135	1	(Article)
Camera, Camera, Camera	24640047	3986	20110513174009	1	(Article)
Can't Win With You!	23297540	5669	20110513181551	1	(Article)
Candy (manga)	25451596	1662	20110513175031	1	(Article)
Cantarella (manga)	2375697	10237	20110513174148	1	(Article)
Captive Hearts (manga)	8842588	9000	20110516021321	1	(Article)
Caravan Kidd	6343455	4464	20110513185640	1	(Article)
Cat Street (manga)	8066091	29553	20110513184350	1	(Article)
Cesare (manga)	21860613	4498	20110513191229	1	(Article)
Chain of Pearls	8772681	3126	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Challengers (manga)	6344352	3231	20110513185640	1	(Article)
Chameleon Jail	13383300	9178	20110513182314	1	(Article)
Change 123	16672327	51102	20110513182809	1	(Article)
Charisma Doll	29159032	1392	20110513181802	1	(Article)
Chizumi & Fujiomi	9128882	1200	20110513181450	1	(Article)
Chobi of Animal Island	9264281	962	20110513181556	1	(Article)
Chocolate Cosmos	18302838	7161	20110513190847	1	(Article)
Choir!	24830105	2531	20110513174141	1	(Article)
Clan of the Nakagamis	7667029	2089	20110513184122	1	(Article)
Claudine...!	9955915	7594	20110513190107	1	(Article)
Clear (visual novel)	13402152	10694	20110513182319	1	(Article)
Clear Skies!	24640174	2698	20110513174009	1	(Article)
Cloth Road	4792104	8045	20110513184448	1	(Article)
Cloverfield/Kishin	16461008	7268	20110513175415	1	(Article)
Code: Breaker	18167031	51628	20110517195437	1	(Article)
Codename: Sailor V	4078320	24588	20110516021513	1	(Article)
Color (manga)	25447275	4496	20110516152303	1	(Article)
Companion (manga)	11076483	1195	20110516021306	1	(Article)
Constellations in My Palm	25339844	1578	20110513174955	1	(Article)
Cosplay Koromo-chan	7679263	6315	20110513184122	1	(Article)
Crescent Moon in the Warring States	5226676	4302	20110507111424	1	(Article)
Crimson Grave	17864676	4837	20110513233751	1	(Article)
Cross Over (manga)	16408925	14505	20110513175405	1	(Article)
Crossroad (manga)	22273079	14309	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Crows (manga)	25901119	1348	20110507111425	1	(Article)
Crystal Dragon	12912050	14961	20110513182100	1	(Article)
Cut (manga)	23297760	3326	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Cute Beast	25175250	2344	20110513174902	1	(Article)
Cute×Guy	6266950	1522	20110513185620	1	(Article)
Cutie Honey Seed	20341270	2930	20110513191139	1	(Article)
Cutie Honey Tennyo Densetsu	20327837	2518	20110513191138	1	(Article)
Cutie Honey a Go Go!	20330798	4583	20110513191139	1	(Article)
D-Live!!	7385698	5455	20110513190043	1	(Article)
Dai-Tokyo Binbo Seikatsu Manual	721768	7148	20110513181424	1	(Article)
Dakkan (manga)	17066689	1295	20110513185603	1	(Article)
Dark Edge	6478217	3898	20110513185711	1	(Article)
Dark Metro	28117166	2830	20110513174603	1	(Article)
Dark Water (book)	2258488	4899	20110513173956	1	(Article)
Dash!	25327206	2808	20110513174950	1	(Article)
Dear (manga)	15578515	5058	20110513175043	1	(Article)
Dear Myself	25487783	3177	20110513175041	1	(Article)
Deep Love: The Story of Ayu	14762411	9858	20110513184335	1	(Article)
Defense Devil	26306662	29595	20110514141214	1	(Article)
Delicious!	12672241	4517	20110513184147	1	(Article)
Demon Sacred	16658663	5297	20110513182809	1	(Article)
Densetsu no Stafy (manga)	14270943	2025	20110513182501	1	(Article)
Densetsu no Stafy R	18966451	1832	20110513191035	1	(Article)
Desire (manga)	2494491	5488	20110513180027	1	(Article)
Devil & Devil	6475429	4441	20110513185711	1	(Article)
Dictatorial Herr	9084618	1457	20110513181439	1	(Article)
Dien Bien Phu (manga)	22650139	4498	20110513181357	1	(Article)
Digimon Adventure V-Tamer 01	4498858	8349	20110519000424	1	(Article)
Digimon Chronicle	4498882	2595	20110517115310	1	(Article)
Digimon Next	4498862	12071	20110517115310	1	(Article)
Digimortal (manga)	7748966	2483	20110513184153	1	(Article)
Dining Bar Akira	30503911	2754	20110514185446	1	(Article)
Dive!!	16972805	1625	20110513185548	1	(Article)
Dog X Cat	25694308	1848	20110513174047	1	(Article)
Dolls (manga)	6630024	7115	20110513185813	1	(Article)
Don't Blame Me (manga)	23303531	3892	20110513181554	1	(Article)
Don't Rush Love	28941991	1704	20110513181650	1	(Article)
Don't Say Anymore, Darling	22414836	3388	20110513181620	1	(Article)
Dorabase	7497913	18525	20110517141658	1	(Article)
Doraemon Plus	30990473	5596	20110518080016	1	(Article)
Dorohedoro	18672748	13020	20110514164850	1	(Article)
Double-Fake: Under the Gundam	2004523	2028	20110511152933	1	(Article)
Double Trouble (manga)	25450155	1780	20110513175031	1	(Article)
Doubt (manga)	17310981	8681	20110516021534	1	(Article)
Dry Heat	28110873	1979	20110513174603	1	(Article)
Duetto (manga)	25450435	1803	20110513175031	1	(Article)
Dynamic Heroes	20907655	5886	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Eden*	22757041	3605	20110513181414	1	(Article)
Eikou no Napoleon – Eroica	8643130	4938	20110513181206	1	(Article)
Electric Hands	25838083	2659	20110513174148	1	(Article)
Empty Heart: False Love	7655923	2073	20110513184117	1	(Article)
Enchanter (manga)	11957531	15823	20110513175017	1	(Article)
Endless Rain (manga)	25488668	2067	20110513175041	1	(Article)
Enigma (manga)	30545607	8631	20110518113314	1	(Article)
Enomoto: New Elements that Shake the World	11711373	3193	20110513174900	1	(Article)
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga	20295342	3902	20110513191137	1	(Article)
FANG	13850486	1578	20110513174220	1	(Article)
FairlyLife	18806890	8529	20110513191011	1	(Article)
Fake Fur (manga)	25158004	3651	20110513174857	1	(Article)
Family Complex	5644277	3893	20110513184126	1	(Article)
Faster than a Kiss	15410223	19212	20110513175012	1	(Article)
Finalist (visual novel)	13769699	4563	20110513174144	1	(Article)
Fire Candy	11866136	7155	20110513174946	1	(Article)
Fireball (manga)	17817689	2808	20110513190813	1	(Article)
First Girl	23314750	7506	20110513181554	1	(Article)
Flesh-Colored Horror	20730066	29566	20110513191223	1	(Article)
Flower of Eden	7479666	2387	20110513184016	1	(Article)
Flower of Life (manga)	13142543	9410	20110516021526	1	(Article)
Flunk Punk Rumble	18847482	33991	20110518155141	1	(Article)
Forbidden Dance	8191593	2533	20110513180924	1	(Article)
Four-Eyed Prince	30965717	2985	20110513183215	1	(Article)
Franken Fran	22805667	38964	20110513181417	1	(Article)
Freaks (manga)	5709909	3403	20110513184149	1	(Article)
Freefall Romance	25507022	2747	20110513173923	1	(Article)
Freesia (manga)	14619645	3535	20110513184259	1	(Article)
From Up Above	25510192	1696	20110513173923	1	(Article)
Full House Kiss	6948667	6057	20110513185921	1	(Article)
Fun Fun Factory	7177793	1494	20110513190007	1	(Article)
Futaba-Kun Change!	2566313	8848	20110513180108	1	(Article)
G Senjō Heaven's Door	888666	3183	20110513181641	1	(Article)
Gamaran	26548987	17868	20110513175111	1	(Article)
Gamble Fish	25789049	34882	20110515160312	1	(Article)
Garden Dreams	22445782	3796	20110513181625	1	(Article)
Gate 7	31645242	1375	20110516085159	1	(Article)
Gekkō no Carnevale	17554402	3417	20110513190736	1	(Article)
Genju no Seiza	12927749	19341	20110513182100	1	(Article)
Getter Robo Hien: The Earth Suicide	16350302	5028	20110513175359	1	(Article)
Giant Robo	10819076	3086	20110513190446	1	(Article)
Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Burned	16203495	3716	20110513175329	1	(Article)
Girl Friend (manga)	22000493	7445	20110513191249	1	(Article)
Girl Friends (manga)	20934033	7764	20110513184106	1	(Article)
Girls Saurus	10871683	6559	20110513190501	1	(Article)
Glass Sky	25209272	3193	20110513174912	1	(Article)
Global Garden	1067258	4427	20110513183941	1	(Article)
Go!! Southern Ice Hockey Club	15291617	3071	20110513174941	1	(Article)
Go! Go! Ackman	3666817	5683	20110514040243	1	(Article)
Gokuaku no Hana	27597491	5162	20110513181421	1	(Article)
Gold Ring	28778000	2998	20110510084513	1	(Article)
Golden Prince and Argent King	25602368	2006	20110513174000	1	(Article)
Gomanism	2121743	1737	20110513173823	1	(Article)
Gon (manga)	2128982	6551	20110513173828	1	(Article)
Goth (novel)	5895539	7521	20110513184600	1	(Article)
Grand Guignol Orchestra	21761831	28486	20110516061039	1	(Article)
Great Yamato	19162872	2293	20110513181357	1	(Article)
Hana Usagi	11744159	1720	20110513174905	1	(Article)
Hana to Ryū	15743353	3339	20110513175129	1	(Article)
Haou Airen	8741198	9207	20110518022024	1	(Article)
Happiness Recommended	23493167	3005	20110513181615	1	(Article)
Happy!	12137418	3597	20110513175104	1	(Article)
Haridama Magic Cram School	21605339	7017	20110513184426	1	(Article)
Hayao Miyazaki's Daydream Data Notes	4078289	1726	20110518214437	1	(Article)
Heaven's Will (manga)	23573838	3674	20110513181645	1	(Article)
Hellstar Remina	30019130	1699	20110514170424	1	(Article)
Her Majesty's Dog	17199400	7553	20110516021417	1	(Article)
Hero Heel	23644806	4616	20110513181656	1	(Article)
Hey, Sensei?	23493362	3590	20110513181615	1	(Article)
Hideyuki Kikuchi's Vampire Hunter D	9464296	9463	20110513181652	1	(Article)
High School Debut	12585537	41649	20110513184116	1	(Article)
Highway Star (manga)	13283715	4434	20110513182253	1	(Article)
Hikkatsu! Strike a Blow to Vivify	14693738	5600	20110513184314	1	(Article)
Hikōtei Jidai	592534	3561	20110518214437	1	(Article)
Himawari: Kenichi Legend	25893221	1359	20110513174158	1	(Article)
Hina-chan no Nichijo	22899598	3058	20110513181439	1	(Article)
Hiroki Endo's Tanpenshu	5684697	5082	20110513184146	1	(Article)
Historie	8081635	15407	20110517121233	1	(Article)
Hito Natsu no Kids Game	17672908	6391	20110513190745	1	(Article)
Hitohira no Koi ga Furu	23030034	2070	20110513181513	1	(Article)
Hohzuki Island	23585656	5554	20110513181650	1	(Article)
Homunculus (manga)	2014952	12703	20110513180841	1	(Article)
HoneyComing	13355112	25321	20110513182308	1	(Article)
Honey Bitter	9428863	2909	20110513181647	1	(Article)
Honey Bunny! (manga)	8793037	2596	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Hoshi wa Utau	11328422	18576	20110513174708	1	(Article)
Hoshiful	13106849	2668	20110513182212	1	(Article)
Hoshiuta	24303163	10443	20110513173811	1	(Article)
Hot Limit (manga)	23493466	3140	20110513181615	1	(Article)
Hot Steamy Glasses	23493740	3754	20110513181615	1	(Article)
Hot Tails	27979586	3526	20110516214819	1	(Article)
Hulk: The Manga	3002761	2008	20110513180501	1	(Article)
Hybrid Child	23657472	2810	20110513181708	1	(Article)
Hyde & Closer	17048264	37020	20110514141214	1	(Article)
I'll Be Your Slave	26707469	1558	20110513173827	1	(Article)
I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone: Shameless	25181093	4264	20110513174902	1	(Article)
I.O.N	4406285	7660	20110516021532	1	(Article)
I Am a Hero	30505959	1368	20110513182956	1	(Article)
I Saw It	18648253	9139	20110516021534	1	(Article)
Ichigenme... The First Class is Civil Law	22287941	5465	20110513181544	1	(Article)
Ichigo Channel	8905318	3377	20110513181338	1	(Article)
Idol Ace	12637638	3709	20110513184142	1	(Article)
Ifrit: Danzai no Enjin	14168768	4925	20110514141214	1	(Article)
Ii Hito	7805461	2324	20110513184223	1	(Article)
Iinari! Aibure-shon	15336159	1848	20110513174951	1	(Article)
Il gatto sul G	9201619	2423	20110513181530	1	(Article)
Imperfect Hero	29415140	1225	20110513182622	1	(Article)
Intron Depot 1	16968860	2482	20110513185543	1	(Article)
Inu Gundam	11082917	2200	20110513190557	1	(Article)
Inu Neko Jump!	12407779	8558	20110513184020	1	(Article)
Inubaka: Crazy for Dogs	8652739	42772	20110513181222	1	(Article)
Inugami (manga)	6103941	2355	20110513184435	1	(Article)
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Ishii Hisaichi's CNN	13673586	2834	20110513174108	1	(Article)
Itsumo Misora	2787053	6029	20110513180305	1	(Article)
Itsuwaribito	31479947	12479	20110513185313	1	(Article)
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Japan (Buronson manga)	6246929	2450	20110513185615	1	(Article)
Japan (Eiji Ōtsuka manga)	6246617	1603	20110513185615	1	(Article)
Jazz (manga)	7769585	3366	20110513184158	1	(Article)
Jigyaku no Uta	23399309	1415	20110507111427	1	(Article)
Judge (manga)	2505440	1908	20110513180032	1	(Article)
Junior Escort	25224607	2974	20110513174912	1	(Article)
Junk: Record of the Last Hero	12226292	6797	20110513175130	1	(Article)
Junk Force	21632842	7609	20110513184431	1	(Article)
Juvenile Orion	5793376	7690	20110513184217	1	(Article)
Ka Shin Fu	25488228	2098	20110513175041	1	(Article)
Kabu no Isaki	15681894	4903	20110513175103	1	(Article)
Kabuki (manga)	26367086	1385	20110513181722	1	(Article)
Kacchū no Senshi Gamu	13850506	4079	20110513174220	1	(Article)
Kachō Kōsaku Shima	13402744	3601	20110513182319	1	(Article)
Kagome Kagome (manga)	21626948	8608	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Kaiouki	23495710	2538	20110513181615	1	(Article)
Kaishain no Melody	14342268	1022	20110513184125	1	(Article)
Kajika	1821108	5189	20110517084829	1	(Article)
Kakeru	495241	2605	20110513183950	1	(Article)
Kamen Rider Series	2379091	42894	20110516021524	1	(Article)
Kamen Rider Spirits	9198684	15845	20110513181530	1	(Article)
Kamikaze (manga)	4349782	8768	20110513184301	1	(Article)
Kamisama Game	13550368	2427	20110513174028	1	(Article)
Kamisama Kiss	27359888	7556	20110513181829	1	(Article)
Kamui (manga)	8084836	6326	20110513184355	1	(Article)
Kamunagara	7739049	5555	20110513184148	1	(Article)
Karakuri Circus	8146963	6154	20110513180914	1	(Article)
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Katana (manga)	17105009	2171	20110514004744	1	(Article)
Katsu!	2787063	14333	20110513180305	1	(Article)
Katte ni Kaizō	14133838	8726	20110516021522	1	(Article)
Kaze ga Gotoku	23991037	6181	20110514115644	1	(Article)
Kedamono Damono	14409852	1644	20110513184202	1	(Article)
Keiji (manga)	21599051	4247	20110513184426	1	(Article)
Kenji (manga)	4948000	2907	20110513175116	1	(Article)
Kerberos & Tachiguishi	8834167	7102	20110518213639	1	(Article)
Kerberos Saga Rainy Dogs	6821257	8952	20110518213649	1	(Article)
Keroro Land	11515708	13215	20110513174809	1	(Article)
Kiichi!!	11972952	2387	20110513175022	1	(Article)
Kilico	26350348	1863	20110513181721	1	(Article)
Kimi no Kakera	3059127	4103	20110513180952	1	(Article)
Kinnikuman II-Sei: All Chōjin Dai Shingeki	11726047	16104	20110516232556	1	(Article)
Kintoki (manga)	31770870	817	20110514040243	1	(Article)
Kinō Nani Tabeta?	25867813	1244	20110513174153	1	(Article)
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Kiss in the Blue	14012300	1390	20110513182349	1	(Article)
Kiss of Rose Princess	28476343	8951	20110513183910	1	(Article)
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Koi Cupid	19818613	4155	20110513181741	1	(Article)
Koi wa Ina Mono Myōna Mono	8776584	11100	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Koko ni iru yo!	16371238	5819	20110513175359	1	(Article)
Komikku Shōwa-Shi	22286097	1181	20110513181544	1	(Article)
Kon Kon Kokon	12033144	7596	20110513175038	1	(Article)
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Kotonoha no Miko to Kotodama no Majo to	28412481	4152	20110513174812	1	(Article)
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Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo	15024068	6890	20110513184436	1	(Article)
Kud Wafter	25618464	18689	20110516021343	1	(Article)
Kunai Den	14111028	1977	20110513182415	1	(Article)
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Kunisaki Izumo no Jijō	29434046	10554	20110515065456	1	(Article)
Kurashina Sensei's Passion	26358664	1847	20110513181721	1	(Article)
Kuri-chan	19450233	2009	20110513181554	1	(Article)
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Kurohime (manga)	12271479	60154	20110513175145	1	(Article)
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Kuroko's Basketball	25673619	2876	20110514024415	1	(Article)
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La Esperança	3768293	4945	20110513182106	1	(Article)
La Satanica	27435797	2304	20110513181335	1	(Article)
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Last Inning	9530973	3719	20110513181723	1	(Article)
Laugh Under the Sun	25187006	3653	20110513174907	1	(Article)
Les Gouttes de Dieu	16857392	12275	20110513185517	1	(Article)
Liberty Liberty!	25847489	1713	20110513174148	1	(Article)
Lies & Kisses	6041239	3389	20110513184420	1	(Article)
Lillia and Treize	10811071	4355	20110513190446	1	(Article)
Limited Lovers	19967760	1867	20110513191048	1	(Article)
List of Sonic the Hedgehog printed media	6835560	10416	20110518214059	1	(Article)
List of manga series by volume count	20364995	79669	20110517235456	1	(Article)
Little Busters!	8124816	91873	20110516021338	1	(Article)
Little Butterfly	23128106	6297	20110513181525	1	(Article)
Little Cry Baby	25428477	2111	20110513175025	1	(Article)
Live For Love (manga)	25428798	2037	20110513175025	1	(Article)
Living For Tomorrow	25429395	2812	20110513175025	1	(Article)
Living Game	4462803	4030	20110513184324	1	(Article)
Lord (manga)	19665680	1655	20110513181655	1	(Article)
Lost+Brain	16436766	12951	20110513175410	1	(Article)
Love-Berrish!	9594300	9007	20110516055001	1	(Article)
Love/Knot	26367459	2020	20110513181722	1	(Article)
Love Celeb	8791935	4901	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Love Control	27936454	2271	20110513174446	1	(Article)
Love Junkies (manga)	6973325	2543	20110513185925	1	(Article)
Love Monster	6299177	20314	20110513185625	1	(Article)
Love Quest (manga)	24885094	1986	20110513174151	1	(Article)
Love is Like a Hurricane	25429595	2936	20110513175025	1	(Article)
Loveholic (manga)	25510831	2431	20110513173923	1	(Article)
Lover's Flat	25876370	1872	20110513174153	1	(Article)
Lover's Pledge	27936202	1411	20110513174446	1	(Article)
Lovers in the Night	22449373	3847	20110513181625	1	(Article)
Loving Gaze	25510301	1873	20110513173923	1	(Article)
Ludwig II (manga)	25434644	3271	20110513175025	1	(Article)
Ludwig Kakumei	3470971	11657	20110513181804	1	(Article)
MAGiMAGi	11436360	4454	20110513174733	1	(Article)
Macross 7: Trash	21029265	2937	20110513184147	1	(Article)
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid	23014130	4635	20110513181513	1	(Article)
Magical Record Lyrical Nanoha Force	22018649	9082	20110513191249	1	(Article)
Mahou no Iroha	27550442	2446	20110513181406	1	(Article)
Maken-ki!	18624262	14859	20110513190939	1	(Article)
Maken X	3704432	4787	20110513182019	1	(Article)
Maker Hikōshiki Hatsune Mix	14167981	6585	20110513182431	1	(Article)
Manga Bible (series)	14942523	14363	20110513184420	1	(Article)
Manga Kenkanryu	7951656	32290	20110516021508	1	(Article)
Manga de Dokuha	20997191	22902	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Maniac Road	3054188	7989	20110513180952	1	(Article)
Maniattemasu	17058322	2077	20110513185603	1	(Article)
March Comes in Like a Lion	12467068	11155	20110515220353	1	(Article)
Marginal (manga)	24854871	7170	20110513174141	1	(Article)
Marine Hunter	14118649	2079	20110514141214	1	(Article)
Marriage Royale	13590930	13032	20110513174053	1	(Article)
Mashiroiro Symphony	24667924	10988	20110513174014	1	(Article)
Material Puzzle	10263842	2116	20110513190149	1	(Article)
Max Lovely!	8907668	4965	20110513181338	1	(Article)
Mayonaka ni Kiss	12228345	2290	20110513175130	1	(Article)
MazinSaga	19352276	3611	20110513181518	1	(Article)
Mazinger Angels	8894956	11701	20110513181338	1	(Article)
Medaka Box	25152657	4047	20110517041024	1	(Article)
Megumi-Toons	1852979	1596	20110513174439	1	(Article)
Mei no Naisho	18656491	8015	20110513190944	1	(Article)
Mel Kano	24093010	1260	20110513173847	1	(Article)
Melted Love	25517434	1460	20110513173938	1	(Article)
Melty Blood	1816390	23901	20110513174403	1	(Article)
Metamo Kiss	14409627	10563	20110513184202	1	(Article)
Me~teru no Kimochi	16188166	1988	20110513175324	1	(Article)
Midnight Secretary	15618185	17175	20110513175053	1	(Article)
Mieru Hito	24359822	1397	20110513173837	1	(Article)
Milk Closet	19085981	4648	20110513181342	1	(Article)
Minima!	21729076	5082	20110513184502	1	(Article)
Mint na Bokura	2698342	18405	20110516021441	1	(Article)
Misshitsu	6530725	3070	20110513185737	1	(Article)
Mistress Fortune	30883183	9355	20110515032502	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Crossbone Gundam	1162615	9775	20110513184043	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Blue Destiny	16638566	1897	20110513182804	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Lost War Chronicles	10612297	9634	20110513190400	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam Alive	8846939	6235	20110513181312	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73 Δ Astray	5272191	7863	20110513183828	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Club Yonkoma	5168932	4453	20110513183742	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny: The Edge	5255233	5434	20110513183813	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny Astray	2588833	8991	20110513180118	1	(Article)
Mobile Suit Gundam Wing: Episode Zero	1994814	6259	20110513180831	1	(Article)
Moeyo Pen	21493309	2071	20110513184350	1	(Article)
Monokuro Kinderbook	21728325	2035	20110513184502	1	(Article)
Monster Hunter Orage	17452838	10151	20110513190705	1	(Article)
Monster Soul	12360028	8400	20110513184015	1	(Article)
More Starlight to Your Heart	6347435	3215	20110513185640	1	(Article)
Mr. Fullswing	4179287	6946	20110513184221	1	(Article)
Mr. Ho	8995877	1280	20110514040243	1	(Article)
Municipal Force Daitenzin	902008	4241	20110507111420	1	(Article)
Murikuri	10022677	1587	20110516085159	1	(Article)
Muv-Luv	2806889	41145	20110513180321	1	(Article)
My-HiME Destiny	11566399	7777	20110513174819	1	(Article)
My-HiME EXA	25558803	1730	20110513173949	1	(Article)
My-Otome (manga)	6327016	10301	20110513185635	1	(Article)
My Balls	8398344	18335	20110513181050	1	(Article)
My Dearest Devil Princess	18622474	11718	20110513190939	1	(Article)
My Favorite Carrera	21338072	872	20110513184309	1	(Article)
My Heavenly Hockey Club	13963096	9995	20110513174245	1	(Article)
My Lovely Ghost Kana	15059481	6128	20110513184451	1	(Article)
My Only King	24858767	1822	20110513174141	1	(Article)
My Paranoid Next Door Neighbor	25370594	2922	20110513175010	1	(Article)
MÄR Omega	7725770	10432	20110513184148	1	(Article)
M×0	7157988	24194	20110513190002	1	(Article)
NG Life	21801383	28876	20110513185453	1	(Article)
NSE: Net Sphere Engineer	3750466	1578	20110513182100	1	(Article)
Naki Shōjo no Tame no Pavane	24023750	6669	20110513173826	1	(Article)
Naniwa Kin'yūdō	30321982	3195	20110513182931	1	(Article)
Nasu (manga)	10533290	4174	20110516021509	1	(Article)
Necratoholic	23714772	2800	20110513181711	1	(Article)
Neko Janai mon!	5951809	4105	20110513184630	1	(Article)
Neo Gomanism Manifesto Special – On Taiwan	8220058	3204	20110513180949	1	(Article)
Neo Gōmanism Manifesto Special – On War	3727741	9155	20110513182039	1	(Article)
New Mobile Report Gundam Wing Dual Story: G-Unit	2023982	31359	20110513180847	1	(Article)
Niji Iro Tōgarashi	934104	6423	20110513181722	1	(Article)
No Bra	10223696	7341	20110513190148	1	(Article)
Nora: The Last Chronicle of Devildom	19221026	20467	20110513181433	1	(Article)
Not Enough Time (manga)	25876577	3020	20110513174153	1	(Article)
Nui!	20125605	4331	20110513191119	1	(Article)
Number (manga)	17372359	3968	20110513190700	1	(Article)
OL Shinkaron	10515527	1531	20110513190340	1	(Article)
Obi o Gyuttone!	496199	1694	20110516021306	1	(Article)
Ohikkoshi	11082707	1335	20110513190557	1	(Article)
Ohime-sama Navigation	13706716	7583	20110513174124	1	(Article)
Ojīchan wa Shōnen Tantei	24215931	1181	20110513173756	1	(Article)
Onidere	17626474	34125	20110514141214	1	(Article)
Onihime VS	21719332	10835	20110513184502	1	(Article)
Only the Ring Finger Knows	3567125	7677	20110516021511	1	(Article)
Open Sesame (manga)	14993522	7568	20110513184431	1	(Article)
Ordinary Crush	25505141	3781	20110513173923	1	(Article)
Orion (manga)	7077788	8750	20110513185940	1	(Article)
Orpheus no Mado	8807343	2523	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Otaku no Musume-san	20992225	7309	20110518183745	1	(Article)
Othello (Toui Hasumi manga)	26304827	1161	20110513175154	1	(Article)
Otogi Matsuri: Dark Offering	21116255	9122	20110513184202	1	(Article)
Otogi no Machi no Rena	16498660	2296	20110513175430	1	(Article)
Otogimoyou Ayanishiki	13325110	2308	20110513182303	1	(Article)
Our Everlasting	7583252	1522	20110513184047	1	(Article)
Our Kingdom	6007264	4436	20110513184656	1	(Article)
Over Rev!	4127045	10854	20110513184157	1	(Article)
P2! -let's Play Pingpong!-	12621028	9225	20110513184126	1	(Article)
Parallel (manga)	2211422	4956	20110513173920	1	(Article)
Parfait Tic!	5937527	9657	20110516021443	1	(Article)
Partner (manga)	9440351	4800	20110513181647	1	(Article)
Passionate Theory	26304740	1387	20110513175154	1	(Article)
Pastel (manga)	4351958	33841	20110513184301	1	(Article)
Path of the Assassin	9947444	2993	20110513190102	1	(Article)
Pathos (manga)	25848380	2067	20110513174148	1	(Article)
Peerless: The Legend of Heihachi Edajima	16997701	2631	20110514073203	1	(Article)
Petit Apple Pie	12200430	3309	20110513175119	1	(Article)
Picnic (manga)	25848527	1997	20110513174148	1	(Article)
Pietà (manga)	15086094	5141	20110513184456	1	(Article)
Pikkapika Comics	24431813	1154	20110514014943	1	(Article)
Pineapple Army	20671604	1882	20110513191204	1	(Article)
Pleasure Dome	26306225	1708	20110513175154	1	(Article)
Pochi	8774962	2926	20110513181307	1	(Article)
Pokémon Battle Frontier (manga)	6722498	2381	20110513185843	1	(Article)
Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!	22029296	10396	20110513191249	1	(Article)
Pokémon Pocket Monsters	6223603	4705	20110513185524	1	(Article)
Prince Charming (manga)	26367660	2878	20110513181722	1	(Article)
Pro Wrestling Superstar Retsuden	14201057	2495	20110513182436	1	(Article)
Psycho Busters	15744188	11219	20110513175129	1	(Article)
Psychometrer Eiji	6119032	3338	20110513184701	1	(Article)
Psyren	15032530	48005	20110514024415	1	(Article)
Puella Magi Kazumi Magica	31778673	2240	20110518192825	1	(Article)
Q.E.D. (manga)	5646495	16912	20110518080517	1	(Article)
R.I.P.: Requiem in Phonybrian	27366736	3661	20110513181829	1	(Article)
Ragnarock City	5504639	4091	20110513184040	1	(Article)
Rakka Ryūsui	9200490	7371	20110513181530	1	(Article)
Ral Grad	8431862	16343	20110513181055	1	(Article)
Rash!!	7628358	1167	20110513184107	1	(Article)
Really? Really!	8064789	7971	20110513184350	1	(Article)
Red (manga)	26652777	1536	20110513173807	1	(Article)
Red Eyes	21786703	10365	20110516024640	1	(Article)
Red Prowling Devil	3731656	1861	20110513182039	1	(Article)
Reptilia (manga)	20905544	1246	20110513184051	1	(Article)
Rewrite (visual novel)	16701789	22206	20110513185430	1	(Article)
Rica 'tte Kanji!?	24111724	5809	20110516021536	1	(Article)
Rin!	26705459	3917	20110513173827	1	(Article)
Robot: Super Color Comic	4611069	3195	20110513184401	1	(Article)
Rokudenashi Blues	9068834	19006	20110518005240	1	(Article)
Romantic Illusions	26711333	1606	20110513173827	1	(Article)
Ryū (manga)	19197691	1294	20110513181412	1	(Article)
Ryūrōden	14951862	3672	20110513184420	1	(Article)
S.L.H Stray Love Hearts!	25932931	8724	20110513174219	1	(Article)
SD Gundam Force Emaki Musharetsuden	5281009	23312	20110513183833	1	(Article)
SD Gundam Gaiden Sieg Zion Hen	12479335	10598	20110507111425	1	(Article)
SD Gundam Musha Banchō Fūunroku	5564392	32066	20110513184110	1	(Article)
SD Gundam Mushamaruden	5860074	5789	20110513184238	1	(Article)
STONe	21854280	2097	20110513185458	1	(Article)
Saikyō! Toritsu Aoizaka Kōkō Yakyūbu	18975163	1739	20110514141214	1	(Article)
Saint Seiya: Next Dimension	11864929	18160	20110513174946	1	(Article)
Saint Seiya Episode.G	3631623	16633	20110513181938	1	(Article)
Sakura no Uta	15820627	4874	20110513175144	1	(Article)
Salad Days (manga)	1923749	1535	20110513174540	1	(Article)
Samurai Crusader	14199207	1690	20110513182436	1	(Article)
Samurai Executioner	2919327	4980	20110513180423	1	(Article)
Samurai Legend	21842542	3058	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Samurai Usagi	13601421	4705	20110513174053	1	(Article)
Satanikus ENMA Kerberos	18628931	4414	20110513190939	1	(Article)
School Zone (manga)	16799043	1588	20110513185456	1	(Article)
Seikimatsu no Angel	8907767	2466	20110513181338	1	(Article)
Seishun Shiterukai!	18316281	5668	20110513190859	1	(Article)
Seiyū ka-!	25179792	11307	20110513174902	1	(Article)
Selfish Love	7659400	2750	20110513184117	1	(Article)
Sengoku Strays	21496204	3063	20110515152003	1	(Article)
Senki Senki Momotama	27744501	4921	20110513181452	1	(Article)
Sessa Takuma	15929561	2300	20110513175215	1	(Article)
Seton's Wild Animals	20875165	2631	20110513184041	1	(Article)
Shamo (manga)	1138959	11993	20110513184038	1	(Article)
Sharaku (manga)	16722955	1686	20110513185430	1	(Article)
Shiki Tsukai	13781778	14853	20110513174149	1	(Article)
Shin Daa! Daa! Daa!	14546174	5024	20110518202449	1	(Article)
Shin Megami Tensei if...	2784771	5103	20110513180305	1	(Article)
Shina Dark	14425118	7951	20110513184217	1	(Article)
Shingeki no Kyojin	31773051	1440	20110517221459	1	(Article)
Shirogane no Seija	27596674	3620	20110513181421	1	(Article)
Shiroi Heya no Futari	8324934	4787	20110513181020	1	(Article)
Shiroi Senshi Yamato	10981057	7664	20110513190527	1	(Article)
Shishunki Miman Okotowari	10826660	5939	20110513190451	1	(Article)
Shitsurakuen (manga)	26402825	9175	20110513181723	1	(Article)
Short-Tempered Melancholic	9373145	5353	20110516021523	1	(Article)
Shuffle! Days in the Bloom	6996518	189	20110518045253	1	(Article)
Shōnen Ai no Bigaku	8604642	4613	20110513181156	1	(Article)
Shōnen to Inu	13867655	5265	20110513174220	1	(Article)
Silent Knight Shō	15003722	2474	20110513184431	1	(Article)
Skyscrapers of Oz	23041994	3092	20110513181513	1	(Article)
Slut Girl	1845313	4643	20110513174433	1	(Article)
Solar Boy Django (manga)	11581261	4089	20110513174824	1	(Article)
Solfege (manga)	22418180	3105	20110513181620	1	(Article)
Sora o Tobu, Mittsu no Hōhō.	17554404	6415	20110513190736	1	(Article)
Souichi's Diary of Delights	4383694	13447	20110513184309	1	(Article)
Spider-Man: The Manga	2280311	4365	20110513174016	1	(Article)
Spider-Man J	23834597	5366	20110513174709	1	(Article)
Spunky Knight	7660126	1483	20110507111425	1	(Article)
Steal Moon	21854855	2973	20110513191229	1	(Article)
Steel Ball Run	9590593	28805	20110513181803	1	(Article)
Stellar Theater	23265661	1828	20110513181549	1	(Article)
Strawberry Shake Sweet	9078724	5570	20110513181434	1	(Article)
Stray Little Devil	8176983	16906	20110513180924	1	(Article)
Street Fighter: Sakura Ganbaru!	12977414	5614	20110516001235	1	(Article)
Street Fighter II (manga)	3508941	8858	20110516001235	1	(Article)
Strobe Edge	23692350	10412	20110516101644	1	(Article)
Sun-Ken Rock	31303337	1287	20110513185247	1	(Article)
Super Dog Rilienthal	24530912	2947	20110513173922	1	(Article)
Super Mario-kun	9947130	2522	20110514014943	1	(Article)
Super Mario Adventures	3120704	11503	20110514014943	1	(Article)
Super Taboo	2345081	5132	20110513174118	1	(Article)
Superior (manga)	12523450	7112	20110513184051	1	(Article)
Superior Defender Gundam Force Gaiden	6739984	4763	20110513185850	1	(Article)
Susano Oh	19268602	3338	20110513181443	1	(Article)
Sōkoku no Garō	27597187	3680	20110513181421	1	(Article)
T.E. Lawrence (manga)	10115059	1011	20110513190124	1	(Article)
Taimashin	21855863	3562	20110516021535	1	(Article)
Tales of Princess Mimia	16474738	2232	20110513175415	1	(Article)
Tatoeba Konna Love Song	14025725	2207	20110513182349	1	(Article)
Ten (manga)	27491159	4045	20110513181350	1	(Article)
Tenchi wo Kurau	19665370	1670	20110513181655	1	(Article)
Tengai Retrogical	21856000	5077	20110513191229	1	(Article)
Tenka Musō	6730137	4130	20110513185848	1	(Article)
Tenshi Ja Nai!!	9302809	4736	20110513181606	1	(Article)
Tenshi no Frypan	22265456	1553	20110513181529	1	(Article)
Teppuu	24104349	7049	20110513173852	1	(Article)
The Color of Love (manga)	25223431	2480	20110513174912	1	(Article)
The Day of Revolution	5643334	12328	20110513184126	1	(Article)
The Devil's Secret	22237042	3204	20110513181524	1	(Article)
The Devil Within (manga)	25037327	9715	20110513174252	1	(Article)
The Doraemons	7497890	11265	20110517141658	1	(Article)
The First King Adventure	8090481	1383	20110513184355	1	(Article)
The First Stage of Love	27862996	2535	20110513174415	1	(Article)
The Journey of Shuna	15973866	6965	20110518214437	1	(Article)
The King of Debt	28112281	2128	20110513174603	1	(Article)
The Law of Ueki Plus	10671922	16264	20110513190405	1	(Article)
The Legend of Dragoon (manga)	22552783	7200	20110516163006	1	(Article)
The Manga Bible: From Genesis to Revelation	20586295	12707	20110315173515	1	(Article)
The Monkey King (manga)	11504800	1839	20110516021407	1	(Article)
The Moon and the Sandals	22250273	13861	20110513181529	1	(Article)
The Prime Minister's Secret Diplomacy	26316000	1917	20110513175154	1	(Article)
The Record of a Fallen Vampire	10902664	23691	20110513190511	1	(Article)
The Rose of Versailles (manga)	6757539	18879	20110516021319	1	(Article)
The Sky Over My Spectacles	30504320	2689	20110513182956	1	(Article)
The Sword of Paros	7299387	6536	20110513190022	1	(Article)
The Tale of Genji (manga)	175275	14920	20110513174200	1	(Article)
The Tyrant Falls in Love	22181984	6903	20110517224903	1	(Article)
The Way To Heaven	23304377	2499	20110513181554	1	(Article)
Three in Love	14621560	1584	20110513184259	1	(Article)
Tokyo Crazy Paradise	9593174	32024	20110513181803	1	(Article)
Tokyo ESP	31228498	6198	20110513185237	1	(Article)
Tokyo Red Hood	10524765	6847	20110513190339	1	(Article)
Tomodachi (manga)	16592085	5158	20110513182759	1	(Article)
Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life	4801273	21600	20110516021338	1	(Article)
Tori Koro	21962131	2239	20110513191248	1	(Article)
Train+Train	12520850	3689	20110513184051	1	(Article)
Train Train (manga)	31406527	2477	20110513185303	1	(Article)
Translucent (manga)	12874146	8405	20110513182035	1	(Article)
Trigun Maximum	580556	100	20110422073447	1	(Article)
Truly Kindly	22449626	3687	20110513181625	1	(Article)
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Table put in hidden section—G.A.S ^talk 15:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Some of those have been made into a film, series, or OVA. For instance Ano Ko ni 1000% and Angel Densetsu have OVAs (and probably a bunch more, since I didn't look through the entire list). You also included things with ONAs, which I'm not sure if you meant to include. Actually, I'm not quite sure why you listed all these titles. Are you suggesting these ones could be added to publisher categories first? Calathan (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Neither Angel Densetsu or Ano Ko ni 1000% are in the category for OVAs (neither even mention an OVA) and thus their articles need cleanup. I'm unsure whether an ONA adaptation counts under WP:BK#3, as drama CDs do not. Having an English license (and, by extension, being in one of those publisher categories) is usually a pretty good indicator of meeting WP:BK#1, in that it is usually a simple matter to find sources. The nearly 800 articles I listed above need looking over to see if, indeed, they have been licensed in English, or adapted into a sufficiently notable medium, but not added to that category. --Malkinann (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Come on guys, there must be some way to automate this. --Malkinann (talk) 09:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Publishers that need an eponymous category

--Malkinann (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Summer Wars

As a reminder, Summer Wars has been listed for a peer review here. I plan to make this a Featured Article and input from project members on how to improve the article would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Discussion over defining prequel

Article .hack//G.U., editor Axem Titanium refuses to add the word "prequel" when mentioning .hack//Roots in the related media section due to .hack//roots anime series premiering only months before the video game series (even though anime series ran concurrent to the video game series releases). Despite that, i made it so it can say the word prequel but not exactly confirming an actual prequel. I brought two sources that call it a prequel but still no luck. So i thought it would be best to bring it here and see what others say. Axem Titanium believes it will not be neutral per definition of a prequel meaning it has to release after the given media.

So i decided to bring it up here. Can an anime series premiered two months early yet serialized concurrent to the video game series be considered a "prequel"?

.hack//roots premiered in April 2006, .hack//G.U. premiered in May 2006.

.hack//roots ended in September 2006, .hack//G.U. ended in January 2007.

As you can see the dates are rather close.Bread Ninja (talk) 07:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

In some cases, stating at what time events from a video game or manga happen is enough. I would call it a prologue since it's done at the same time, but that's just an opinion. It may be better to talk with Axem Titanium, but I think it's okay avoiding the word prequel considering the definition "A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting".Tintor2 (talk) 17:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I suppose, but there are sources stating as such, and most commonly referred to as one due to the Video games being the main plot for the .hack franchise. I mean, i find it similar to the japanese translation, english official translation due to reliable source situation. Although doesn't exactly a prequel, there are sources stating it as such. Though the definition you got that was directly from wikipedia. other sources i found don't exactly state it needs to be completed. but lets say for example this was valid. The video game was completed, while the anime was still on going. sure the entire series was ongoing alongside the anime, but it got one completed work alongside it.Bread Ninja (talk) 17:23, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I've never heard of prequels that appeared before the original work finished, but the sources would call it prequel because by the time it was reviewed, all the games had been released. It would be better if you directly discuss it with Axem Titanium.Tintor2 (talk) 02:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

It could be done for promotional reasons. For .hack, the series has always been a lil backwards. For example .hack//Link is a manga that came out before the video game, yet inside the manga already confirms it being the adaptation of the game. The most likely case is that the main series is the video games, while anime, light novel, and manga being complimentary.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:34, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Track Listing

The soundtrack article for Ergo Proxy apparently got merged into the main article a while back. I was just trying to figure out if it was appropriate to have full track listings for both CD's. I remember reading somewhere that track listings were only appropriate in stand-alone album articles, but I'm unable to find where I read that. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 00:01, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that's true...alot of media such as films and video games have tracklists alongside the main article, i think if we put it under the tracklist template it would look much nicer and collapse it would be good for now until it could be expanded and more sources added.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:23, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Stalemate at AfD

It appears like there's a stalemate at AfD discussion of List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED mobile weapons. I was wondering if we could get some more opinions so it doesn't end in "No Consensus". --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 23:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

If it ends with no consensus it ends with no consensus, nothing wrong with it, just means the discussion should be moved to the article's talk page. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

It's just that I'm just imagining this article getting re-nominated next week and having to go through seven more days of this. It would be nice to see a clear decision. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 04:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I added my input if its enough.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

It got deleted. I guess I got what I wanted, a firm decision. I probably couldn't have done much for the article anyway, it was just a mess. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 22:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Gundam redirects needed

Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Gundam#List_of_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_SEED_mobile_weapons_redirects. Sandstein 18:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Should this be moved?

Being (company) to Being Group since they call themselves that on their offical site? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 17:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

At the bottom of the page, it says Being, Inc. I'd trust that over the stylized logo at the top. Good raise 18:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, Being Group is probably just the name of the site.Bread Ninja (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought it made sense since it was a group of label companies. How about moving it to Being Inc. instead? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:26, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

If you could find a source that says Being Inc. Usually when adding "inc." its with a coma. You could make it so Being Group redirects to the article too when you move it.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:30, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

I think I found a source confirming the company is called Being Group. here. If it seems okay I'm moving it to that. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:38, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Group isn't capitalized like "being" is so its highly unlikely its part of the title. However the page says "Being Music Factory Inc." Just like we refer to certain things as a series and include it alongside the name, Being is most likely just trying to disambiguate. The main site does however say "being Inc" without the coma. SO yes, i think it should be moved to Being Inc.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:46, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

The company was credited as Being Group in the credits of an episode, would this change anything? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Multiple indirect translations

End of Evangelion, Gwern insist to keep multiple translations of the word "気持ち悪い。" ("Kimochi warui.") from other sources that don't directly relate to the article nor the interpretation subsection. Not only that but, the multiple translation seem pretty trivial as all of those translations are too similar to mention the difference.

What is important however, is to mention the given translation that caused the section to rise, (which in this case is "How disgusting" vs "I feel sick"). Can anyone here can give their opinion so we can clear this up?Bread Ninja (talk) 01:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Anyone? I'm getting tired of these trivial things needing consensus. So i rather end this.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:49, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

You might get more feedback, if you provided a link to where this is being discussed. Good raise 11:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Its been discussed through edit summaries. But knowing this editor for quite a long time, simply talking won't help bring out consensus. So i asked for editors. I provided the link for end of evangelion, in the interpretation section where you can see where exactly what the argument is about, which is excessive translation to "気持ち悪い。" ("Kimochi warui.") from sources not related to the topic of how its used in End of evangelion.Bread Ninja (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, then what you're doing is basically asking for others to join the edit war, which is something I've seen far too often on this talk page, but never had the nerve to speak out against. If "simply talking" won't help, then what are you expecting us to do? If you have a content dispute, talk to the other person on the article's talk page before you come here. That's the bare minimum of what you should do. Then, if it really is a problem with the other editor's behavior, you can say "I tried my best" and start dealing with the actual problem: the other editor's behavior (if it comes to that and you don't know how, you can ask me for advice or help on my talk page). My problem at the moment, as an uninvolved editor, is that I've only heard one side of the story. I know that Gwern insists on these translations, but I don't know why. Start a discussion, link to it from here, and I'll be glad to participate. Good raise 13:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

How about we just clear it up? I'm basically asking to get consensus right here and now on this discussion. And i know why Gwern wants the translations in, but i simply don't agree.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, leaving aside that this isn't the place to discuss article specific content disputes, I don't see how we're supposed to do that. Do you expect us to search the article's history for Gwern's arguments? Does Gwern even know about this thread? I'm beginning to think that you and I don't agree on what a "consensus" is. Without having heard the other side of the dispute, I'm not consenting to anything, nor should anyone else. Good raise 23:00, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Gwern probably does or should considering it would be in the watchlist. Consensus is a number to me. Third party. See what they think. Gwern believes all translations of the word is important simple as that. Regardless, you're not even trying to look at the problem at hand. There have been many many specifics in this page. MANY. Why single this one out? Can you just look at it? this is a no-brainer. Not only will this help but all other articles with similar problems. And that's how everyone should see specific topics in the wikiproject.Bread Ninja (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

"Gwern probably does or should considering it would be in the watchlist." -- That's an assumption you shouldn't make. I have this page watchlisted and I miss most of what's going on here. Other editors of anime and manga related articles may not even care what's being discussed here, and why should they?

"Consensus is a number to me." -- Well, it's not to me, it's not seen that way by Wikipedia:Consensus, and it's not the way a dictionary would define it either.

"you're not even trying to look at the problem at hand." -- The first thing I did was to look at the article. I read the relevant passage and found what I expected, multiple indirect translations of a Japanese phrase. They are fairly similar, which makes me wonder why any intelligent, well-meaning editor would want to have them included, which brings me back to the question you should have sought an answer to before you came here: why? Perhaps there really is no reasoning behind it, but I'd need to hear that from Gwern, not from you, if not in the form of a discussion on the article's talk page, then at least by means of a diff. You say "Its been discussed through edit summaries." I wonder what kind of discussion that may have been, if you don't even know why Gwern wants those translations in the article.

"There have been many many specifics in this page. MANY. Why single this one out?" -- WP:SEWAGE. I have silently watched this kind of misbehavior go on for far too long already. I certainly won't make the problem worse by participating in it.

"this is a no-brainer." -- If it was, then you wouldn't need our help. Unless, of course, if you're saying that Gwern is being unreasonable, in which case this would be a behavioral issues and should be dealt with as such. It may not be an inviting prospect, but in the long run it's better than edit warring, getting frustrated, and turning here for help, over and over again.

"Not only will this help but all other articles with similar problems. And that's how everyone should see specific topics in the wikiproject." -- Well, I don't object to this talk page being used to discuss issues too general for a specific talk page, but clearly that's not the case here. Or am I missing something? Good raise 02:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

This sounds rather Pointy...and this wikiproject doesn't discuss about things already going on in talkpage. Regardless, you don't need to participate, but you don't need to diss the conversation. And yes i am saying Gwern is being unreasonable, i have always thought so the moment my edits were reverted by her. I'm saying, if we discuss about specific problems now, and where they affect articles, we can take care of these things in other articles that may have similar problems if they do.Bread Ninja (talk) 02:12, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Pointy? No, what I'm doing is the opposite of being pointy. I'm not "disrupting Wikipedia to make a point", I'm pointing out that this talk page is used to disrupt Wikipedia. That's right. This talk page has a history of being used by editors to exercise ownership over articles by proxy, calling for backup in edit wars, and the like, instead of following proper consensus building and dispute resolution procedures. And by not speaking out against it for as long as I have, I have allowed newer editors to adopt this misbehavior for themselves. But that only to my defense. Back on topic...

Apparently, you haven't been listening to me. If Gwern really is being unreasonable (and on a regular basis, no less), then "clearing up" this dispute here and now by outnumbering them won't do us any good in the long run. They'll simply find something else to be unreasonable about and we'll be back at square one. To solve problems like this for good, the editor's behavior needs to be dealt with, and there really is only one way to do that: follow proper procedures. When you are doing everything right, the other editor's misbehavior (if that's really what it is and not just some misunderstanding) will become apparent. And then, if nothing else helps, can the community take more permanent measures (such as a block or a ban of some sort).

I don't mean to point fingers here. I don't want to "diss" some conversation, which, as far as I can tell, hasn't even begun yet. I'm offering my help, dealing with this in the proper way, and if you accept it, I'll go along as far as it takes to solve the problem. However, if you're really only interested in gaining superior numbers over Gwern, then never mind I said anything at all. Good raise 03:44, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The editor gwern, is bias for the series "Neon Genesis Evangelion", we have had MANY disputes in the past, and nearly impossible to get through, and yeah, the only way to get through to these articles is by numbers. Often i found the ignore method seem to work in gwerns favor too. If the person ignores it, then no discussion, and no way of getting the edit back. it was until another editor came in to take out few of the many dents those related articles had that things moved on. It shouldn't be like this, but apparently you can't do much unless the person is being uncivil, which in this case, happens rarely and it gets the job done. Consensus is a number to me. and not just a number of people, but number of people with their one reasons that agree with one another. You don't even need my reason to know this is wrong.

I been playing the waiting game. There's not much i can do. The only thing i got is that Gwern admits to seeing the NGE articles artistically, more than just informative.Bread Ninja (talk) 04:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

"apparently you can't do much unless the person is being uncivil" -- That's not true. It's a bit more complicated, but it's possible to deal with this kind of thing. Here's what you're gonna do. (I'll help you, but I'm not on your side. We're not ganging up on Gwern.) You'll try your very best to come to a consensus with them. And by that I mean consensus in the literal sense. To do that, you'll follow WP:BRD (and if possible WP:1RR) as closely as you can. While you're doing that, you'll notify me on my talk page, whenever you start a discussion, so I can keep up, as I expect this will stretch out over various pages and I'd most likely miss half of the action if you don't inform me. If Gwern really is unreasonable, these efforts will inevitably fail. At that point, we'll proceed as described at WP:DDE. If you're willing to try this method, be sure to familiarize yourself closely with BRD and WP:DE before we start, and to inform Gwern on their talk page about this thread, because it's not our intention to conspire against them behind their back. All we want, after all, is civilized, undisrupted, and constructive editing. So, are you willing to try this? Good raise 06:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I dont want to gang up on Gwern, i just want to improve the articles and the only way to do that if i get consensus for every lil thing unfortunately. Sigh...this will take a while. Just so this one editor can change his ways? which in turn will most likely not. This editor is quite experienced and knows the rules well. The problem is Gwern gets bias towards the series, and your rules already ask for "consensus". And thats the only time Gwern stops, when a group of ppl agree, that its the best choice. The reporting issue won't work because Gwern knows when to stop. I just need a group of ppl.Bread Ninja (talk) 07:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

No. You don't understand what I'm saying, because you don't know what consensus means. You don't need a group for a consensus. You don't even need to say one word to reach a consensus. Consensus is when all involved parties agree, regardless of whether that's one, two, three, or dozens of editors. Anyway, forget what I suggested above. If you don't believe following proper procedures will work, then there's no point in making you try it. Just stay away from The End of Evangelion and its talk page for a while. Let me try it. You just sit back and watch. Okay? Good raise 08:17, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

That is not actually true. Wikipedia:Consensus states Consensus is not necessarily unanimity. Ideally, it arrives with an absence of objections, but if this proves impossible, a majority decision must be taken. More than a simple majority is generally required for major changes. In short not every party has to agree to achieve a consensus. In this case having a lot more editors agree with a certain position is actually a good idea.--174.90.78.3 (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

You are right. That is one definition of consensus, but so is mine.[2] You're wrong, however, in regard to this case. Skipping the step of trying to achieve consensus with problem editors, and going for a majority decision right away, allows them to continue their disruptive behavior endlessly, while their victims waste time and energy on canvassing for those repeatedly needed majorities and get ever more frustrated because of it. If I was such an editor, I'd go to discussions like this and encourage other editors to seek majority consensuses as often as possible, because that only works in my favor. Good raise 21:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I've given my opinion to gwern various times, and they are always related thing which is prose and inclusion. which i'm sure this editor will never learn, but then again, knows the rules very well.Bread Ninja (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Some editors can't learn or don't want to learn. The idea is not to educate them, but to identify them, so they can be placed under editing restrictions or even banned, and that will never happen if everyone always sidesteps the issue by scrounging up majorities, whenever they encounter this kind of resistance. If you want to surrender to such tactics, fine. I know the rules too: Gaming the system is strictly forbidden. The community is not stupid. All that needs to be done is to show that an editor is doing just that and action will be taken. I hope, however, that you're wrong about Gwern. And I really wish you'd give this approach a try, because I've got to get quite far out of my way to assume your role in this conflict. Good raise 01:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Semi-omnibus Releases

As I continue to work on Twin Spica now that the series publication is in full swing, I have a question regarding something that came up with the List of Twin Spica chapters. I got a confirmation from Ed Chavez, Vertical's marketing director, via Twitter a few weeks ago stating that manga will be published stateside in 12 volumes total, compared to Japan's 16. Chapter counts in volumes 1–6 match the chapters in the Japanese version. However, volumes 7–12 will have additional chapters to speed up the release. Is there any way to reflect this on the release table? I'm not sure if this problem has come up with other series before. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 05:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Complicated. Maybe you could add a note beside some of the chapters saying "This chapter is part of volume X in the English release". DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:48, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I would say that the list should still follow the original publication, since the semi-omnibuses are not tankobon volumes.Tintor2 (talk) 17:06, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, which may be a side question. What constitutes as a tankōbon? Do tankōbon releases have a limitation on the number of pages/chapters per volume? —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:06, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

From all tankobon I have read, there is normally between 200 pages, although in some cases like Naruto, the volume 43 was considerably longer. As I understand, omnibuses are special editions volumes with wider sizes.Tintor2 (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

That's the thing with the Vertical's Spica releases. The dimensions of the pages are the same, only with more pages. The first 6 volumes (in both English and Japanese) have 200 pages. Volume 7 to 10 of the English release is up to 300 pages, and volume 11 is set for 400 pages. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Its fine, keep them in the original Japanese tankobon list and add a little note beside them. I had the same thing happen in List of Case Closed episodes where the English and Japanese season divisions were different. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:12, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Status quo ignored

There has been a large discussion in Talk:List of InuYasha characters/Archive 1#Shippo and Kirara should be Protagonists some time ago to state what characters should be protagonists in List of InuYasha characters. Because of constant edit war, the article had to be protected until reaching consensus. The consensus was to leave four protagonists (InuYasha, Kagome Higurashi, Miroku and Sango), but now that I check it there are three more. I'll revert that move, but it should be better to keep the article watched just in case.Tintor2 (talk) 17:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Confused about guidelines

I'm kind of confused about what parts should the article Mobile Suit Gundam SEED cover. The series' direct sequel, Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny, has its own article and besides sharing the storyline, they also share various parts of merchandising such as CDs, DVDs, or yonkoma. I thought about it as how Dragon Ball GT should have its own article, but I'm still unsure. Should Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny have its own article or be merged within Gundam SEED? The same issue happens with all of other Gundam's sequels, but I noted that most of them are able to pass notability (there are lots of Destiny reviews, notable sales, won two Anime Grand Prix awards, etc). Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

What guidelines are you confused about? If both pass notability (WP:N), then whether or not two articles should be merged becomes mostly a question of avoiding content overlap (WP:FORK) and unnecessarily small articles (WP:SIZE, WP:SS). If you're looking for a silver bullet answer for this case, you won't find it in guidelines. Consensus just isn't that strong on these matters. My advice: Try to merge them. If it's a trivial matter to cover both topics in the same article, then they probably should be. If it's difficult to do or feels wrong, then just leave them be. Hope this was helpful, though I doubt I told you anything new. Good raise 02:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. There are no size issues and actually both articles just have similar sizes.Tintor2 (talk) 11:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Redirect going nowhere

For some reason, Chiaki Morosawa redirects to Future GPX Cyber Formula#Staff although such section gives no information about such person. Shouldn't such redirect be deleted? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 02:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

It should probably redirect to Mitsuo Fukuda, her husband. From what I understand, she worked on more than just Cyber Formula. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 03:09, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

It could be turned into an article by using information from ja:両澤千晶, which appears to cite the April 2008 issue of Animage. I find the notion that it "should" be redirected to her husband before being investigated as to whether she herself is notable to be very inappropriate. (see How to Suppress Women's Writing.) --Malkinann (talk) 03:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

If the article is created, shouldn't its content be already sourced? Mitsuo Fukuda's article contains a lot of information that has been unsourced for years (actually two years in a style section, that I removed as it was from April 2009).Tintor2 (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

His article on the Japanese Wikipedia, ja:福田己津央, could also be checked for reliability and translated over here, as it contains a few sources that the English page does not. Either way, Chiaki Morosawa's notability and potential for an article should be assessed before the redirect is deleted or switched to being a redirect to her husband. --Malkinann (talk) 03:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, CSE results for 両澤千晶, CSE results for Chiaki Morosawa, CSE results for Morosawa Chiaki. --Malkinann (talk) 06:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

By no means did I suggest that she is not notable. I was merely pointing a more appropriate target for redirect that would give context to her work. I did look up her credentials before making the suggestion. Suggesting that I am ignorant is simply bad faith. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 07:39, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Following WP:BEFORE properly entails a good faith attempt to look for sources and examination of other editions of wikipedia, trying to find out her own notability, before redirection. Redirection to her husband's article without a prior attempt to determine her own notability is inappropriate, as it reduces her to being 'the wife of Mitsuo Fukuda'. --Malkinann (talk) 07:57, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Like I said, I know of her independent notability. I don't have the energy to develop her article myself, thus it is up to others to make the assessment. I've made my case and stand by my actions; I have no desire to discuss it further. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 08:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Planning to send List of FLCL episodes to FLRC soon

Is anyone willing to tackle its source issue before I send it? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

What source issue? I don't understand your post on the talk page. "It needs an update to the English air dates after Cartoon Network took down that website. Waybackmachine was unable to receive the source." Which website is down? --Malkinann (talk) 06:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I mean the reference for the English airdates died and it needs to be replaced. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean this one? --Malkinann (talk) 10:48, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

"List of FLCL episode titles". Cartoon Network. Retrieved 2008-01-11.

I don't think linkrot is a particularly good or even acceptable reason to delist a FL. If that is the only concern, then don't bother with FLRC. Anyways, reference has been updated to Hulu with WebCite archive to prevent future linkrot. —Farix (t | c) 11:16, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Lack of verifiability is a perfectly fine rationale for FLRC nominations. The cause of such a lack is immaterial. Good raise 14:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe FL should be thoroughly sourced to retain its title. I got one more for someone to tackle. List of Gunslinger Girl episodes's episode 9 has an unsourced airdate. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 18:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Be proactive. Prevent linkrot by using WebCite. Don't leave the work for others months/years from now.—Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Even if linkrot has occurred, it still has been sourced and its verifiability was checked at the time of the FL promotion, otherwise it would not have been promoted. —Farix (t | c) 20:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

That's not always a safe assumption - in the case of the FLCL list, the airdate source was provided in January 2008, slightly after the promotion to FL in late 2007. Sourcing standards have generally risen over WP's lifespan. I just want a clear rationale for any reassessments, and for people to know about them before-time so that there's a chance that a formal reassessment is not needed. DragonZero, has the FLCL list improved sufficiently to not need a reassessment? --Malkinann (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I think its fine now. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :) So it's just the English airdate for List of Gunslinger Girl episodes episode 9, then? --Malkinann (talk) 03:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the only problem I see with it. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Potential FLRC for List of Gunslinger Girl episodes

List of Gunslinger Girl episodes does not have a citation for the English airdate of episode 9 - this is marked with a {{fact}} tag. Could someone please find another source for this so that it is fully sourced and won't be in danger of reassessment? --Malkinann (talk) 04:39, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

If Hulu can be used, that is the airdate listed. I was unable to retrieve the March 2 daily schedule from the IFC website in the web archive. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 08:00, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. :) --Malkinann (talk) 08:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

The last dead link in this article is:

"Gunslinger Girl" (in Japanese). Bandai Channel. Retrieved 2009-04-07. ^{[dead link‍]}

which apparently helps to cite "The episodes of the anime series Gunslinger Girl are based on the Gunslinger Girl manga series written and illustrated by Yu Aida. The first series' episodes were directed by Morio Asaka, animated by Madhouse Studios, and produced by Bandai Visual, Marvelous Entertainment, MediaWorks, and Madhouse Studios. It adapts the first two manga volumes of the series over thirteen episodes which aired in Japan from October 8, 2003 to February 19, 2004 on Bandai Channel and Fuji Television." along with "ガンスリンガー·ガール #1" (in Japanese). Fuji TV. Retrieved 2009-04-07. and "ガンスリンガー·ガール #13" (in Japanese). Fuji TV. Retrieved 2009-04-07.. Does anyone know what the dead link was used to cite, and can anyone find anything to replace it? --Malkinann (talk) 09:53, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Here's the archive. I'm assuming it was referencing the original work and animation studios information since latter references only mentioned staff members. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 10:04, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. :) After having looked over this article with a week's distance, it looks like it doesn't need reassessment. --Malkinann (talk) 10:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Separate coverage for anime adaptations

Is there any reason why the anime adaptations of popular manga are only covered in one article? I understand if it's an obscure manga that only had like a short OVA series, but why are the anime adaptations of Dragon Ball (four different TV anime series, one of them being a completely original work) Bleach (which has several anime-exclusive story arcs), Naruto (which has two series, the original and Shippuden) and One Piece, among others, are covered in the same article as the manga versions? Wouldn't it make more sense to have separate coverage for the anime adaptations? Especially when you factor in the fact that some of these anime series had more than one English dub. The Japanese Wikipedia doesn't seem to have these limitations. Jonny2x4 (talk) 06:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

It would be difficult to maintain the same quality of writing on multiple articles on similar topics. In a lot of cases, people will always refer to the original media as, well, the original. You might be aware that some circles closely scrutinize differences between adaptations and the original work. If you were to separate these articles into different adaptations, it would be difficult to discuss them in a central location. Furthermore, we try to keep content forking to a minimum. All these single articles are technically franchise articles. For example, main articles of large properties such as Digimon and Pokémon which have well-known anime adaptations discuss the franchise as a whole. But how do we distinguish Bleach from the chemical cleaner? The default disambiguation that is chosen is the original work. The list of Bleach episodes is quite a massive project by itself and would be a more appropriate place to discuss anime-specific information. The Japanese Wikipedia actually has it worse in some respects because they dump everything into giant articles, from plot information to image song albums and numerous trivia. It's unwieldy. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 09:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Splitting List of Bleach chapters

Due to weight issues, List of Bleach chapters is in need of a split. However, there is no guideline that states how many volumes should a sublist be composed of. Viz Media collected the first 21 volumes in a single box for release, so it was wondered in Talk:List of Bleach chapters#Splitting how it should be done. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 03:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Most recent featured chapter list?

Am I reading WP:ANIME/NEWS right? It seems like List of Bleach chapters is the most recent featured chapter list? --Malkinann (talk) 00:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Probably. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Anime in a way is easier to get to FL because for many manga, English licensors don't publish them to completion, or the series goes out of print. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, the most recent featured episode list, List of Buso Renkin episodes, also went through various changes constrasting the style from older episode lists. I guess getting FL is getting harder now-a-days.Tintor2 (talk) 02:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Standards are rising, and that's not a recent development. Just a few years back, articles were awarded FA-status, which wouldn't pass as B-class today. Good raise 21:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Hajime no Ippo manga volumes splitting

Could someone finish off the split for me? If not, I'll return in a few hours to finish it. I already did the first split so someone could use it as an example if needed. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 19:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Do we really need these articles?

I know Gundam SEED has been in the deletion spotlight lately but looking at these articles as well I see no references, and all WP:PLOT info. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

What's your WP:BEFORE turned up? --Malkinann (talk) 20:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

2011 Summer season

I'm prepping the articles for the upcoming summer season next month, but a few that are throwing me off on what to name them.

Ikoku Meiro no Croisée (異国迷路のクロワーゼ, Ikoku Meiro no Kurowāze) (La croisée dans un labyrinthe étranger) : This series seems to have several variations on its title, Ikoku Meiro no Croisée appears to be the title most widely used by preview sites, but Ikoku Meiro no Kurowāze is a much closer translitration. I have no idea were La croisée dans un labyrinthe étranger came from, but it is the title used by ANN.
Manyū Hiken-chō (魔乳秘剣帖) : I'm not sure if the translitration of this title is correct as Google is giving me a different one, Machichi Hiken-jō.
Nekogami Yaoyorozu (猫神やおよろず) : Again, Google is giving me a different translitration of Neko-shin Yaoyorozu. And I'm not sure why 猫神 wouldn't transliterate to Neko-kami instead.

—Farix (t | c) 15:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The French(?) from Ikoku Meiro is the subtitle written on the manga. I was unable to get an accurate translation from Google on its meaning. 帖 as a kanji can be read as jō or chō. Perhaps someone else can explain the scenarios when either one is used. On Nekogami, I believe that's a rule within the Japanese, much like shinigami. 神 as a kanji character can also be read as shin. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

クロワーゼ appears to be a transliteration of croisée so I'd go with the first title. The Japanese article for ja:魔乳秘剣帖 lists the reading as Manyū Hiken-chō, so go with that. Similarly, the Japanese article for ja:猫神やおよろず has it read as Nekogami Yaoyorozu.--十八 20:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Created Ro-Kyu-Bu! and Sacred Seven if anyone wants to expand on them. —Farix (t | c) 18:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Television airdates

There is a discussion at Talk:List of Bleach episodes#English Air Dates regarding airdates and using the TV Guide episode listing. Maybe a third opinion would be needed for this. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox field shadings

Please see the discussion at Template talk:Infobox animanga#Lavender field shadings. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 08:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

FLR for Bleach manga lists

I have nominated List of Bleach manga volumes for FLR after its various moves. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Bleach manga volumes/archive1. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 22:58, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Nihongo templates in other languages

Are there Nihongo1 and Nihongo3 templates for other languages such as Korean? If not, could someone make a Korean version of it or direct me to the right place to ask this. Thanks. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why we need to make a new one to do the same thing. We could just expand the usage to affect other asian languages.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The templates do more than what is obvious. They should not be used for non-Japanese text. Have you tried asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea? Good raise 08:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

[EC] Have you tried asking Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea whether there are analogous templates for hangul and hanja? --Malkinann (talk) 08:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Korean and Chinese use different character encoding, thus you can't simply plug in the Korean and Chinese characters into the Nihongo templates. {{Korean}} is what you're looking for, but it's not immediately obvious on how to use it as the documentation has not been updated. (I can fix this tomorrow.) {{Zh}} is the Chinese equivalent. The less used multilingual template is {{CJKV}}. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 09:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh thanks, I didn't know those existed. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Two orphan articles

The following two articles were to be merged into List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED mobile weapons but since that was deleted do the two qualify for WP:CSD???

- Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

You're making things more complicated than you have to. Remember: Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy. Just point the administrator who deleted the list to the AfD of those articles and I'm sure he or she will be delighted to clean up behind themselves. Good raise 17:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I do not think those articles should be speedy deleted, as there was no consensus to delete them in the first AFD, and they were not discussed in the second AFD (other than that I pointed out they existed and were slated for merge). I think they should either be subject to a new AFD, or a discussion should be started somewhere on whether to merge them somewhere else. Calathan (talk) 18:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thats what I was thinking, I am wondering if there was another possible merge or redirect target for these two. I suppose I could just inform the admin and have these Speedly deleted but I wanted to ask around first here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Spining-out volumes and chapters lists

Hi all,

I raise again the question on the criterion which make a chapters list spin-out warranted as i observed Ltiler making chapters list on series with less than 5 volumes, the least one being Azumanga Daioh.

You are aware of my reluctance for spin-out articles for the sake of spin-out articles and "fake" encyclopedia growth so i prefer to rely on the project members input on the matter before to take any action.

Thanks.

--KrebMarkt (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how well developed the manga volume information already is. If it is simply a list, it shouldn't be split. If it contains volume summaries, detailed publication information, and etc, then it becomes a little more iffy. But one thing I've also noticed about Ltiler's edits is that s/he is also reassessing several articles and lists as C-class when they are no where close to it. —Farix (t | c) 00:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

IP assessing

IP 117.195.8.82 has been assessing various manga chapters list without actually using the B-Class criteria. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 15:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

It's Ltiler, who generally edits from the 117.195.x.x range while logged out. There have been several issues with Ltiler's assessments and other general edits before (such as renaming "Plot" sections to "Story"). —Farix (t | c) 16:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Is it really such a grave issue? These assessments land the articles in the Category:Anime and manga articles with incomplete B-Class checklists, which can be checked by anyone. Some of these articles seem liminal enough to me that the C-class assessment could be accurate, (Hana Kimi, Maid Sama!) even if it's not got the B-class checklist. Some of these articles were last assessed in 2008. While standards have risen since then, hopefully the quality of the articles has also risen. --Malkinann (talk) 21:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Evangelion character articles

The articles for the Neon Genesis Evangelion characters are all a mess, really. As the talk pages for the articles all seem inactive, I have decided to bring my case here to gather some input. I have been reworking the Asuka article in order to improve its quality and such using Good Articles like Jack Sparrow and Aang as templates. A lot of work is still required, however. And the other articles for Shinji, Rei, etc. are all in pretty bad shape. These pages do not seem to be edited often and are very rarely improved. I am sure that there are editors in this WikiProject with knowledge of Evangelion that can help to improve these articles.--GroovySandwich 06:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, watch for people like Gwern trying to hold off any changes. He has a history with anything Gainax. --Eaglestorm (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

well done on asuka article. But yeah be careful about that (and here i thought i was the only one).Bread Ninja (talk) 06:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I had a feeling that there may be some devoted fans who wish to keep every bit of minor information, but such things are detrimental to these articles rather than beneficial. While the Asuka article is not yet in great condition, it could be used as a template for the other character articles. Although it would be a shame if some Evangelion fan were to revert all efforts to improve the articles out of the belief that it is actually harming the articles, as I have seen on many Dragon Ball related articles. I could use some help with the other pages--GroovySandwich 06:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Fans need to know where to draw the lines. Still, this editor knows better. This looks alot better. I really appreciate what you did. Since this section is about NGE character articles, i think Toji Suzuhara, Ryoji Kaji and Yui Ikari should be merged into the list of characters article. Which also the character list could be reformatted in a less in-universe style.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

The Asuka article alone is rather concise. Not bad. --Eaglestorm (talk) 14:34, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree; while they are important in the context of the series, they are not notable enough to warrant their own articles. The same could be done for Gendo Ikari and possibly Kaworu Nagisa. I've been working on the Shinji article and will be focusing on that one for a bit however--GroovySandwich 09:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Gendo appears to have some reception, so i didn't think to merge that character yet but he could be. Kaworu i believe is barely notable though. but we'll see...Bread Ninja (talk) 09:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Gendo, while important in the series, doesn't hold the same cultural impact as the main characters. His article could be merged with little to no hassle. Kaworu, on the other hand, appeared in one episode and has had about two minutes of screen time in the recent films yet has been extremely popular. This is tricky. I believe his article could be merged but there may be some who say otherwise. A vote would be needed in that case.--GroovySandwich 09:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Though he only made a minor appearance in the anime, he has also appeared in other media alot more, plus if there was any development and reception out there, than that would strengthen the article.Bread Ninja (talk) 09:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Other media info does not help to pass wp:notability.Tintor2 (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it does. Its part of promotion and reception and potentially legacy, development is also important. If he only had a minor appearance in one epsidoe, but has major importance in 2 mangas, video games, and film series, i would believe it does help (if sources are found).Bread Ninja (talk) 01:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I thought you meant other media sections. But yeah, if no work is done regarding reception, the article should be merged.Tintor2 (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Reception should be looked for first. It can be difficult to get reception into these articles at times. For example, ages ago I added to Kaworu's article a reliable source stating that Kaworu's interactions with Shinji are debated among fans. I was reading the chapter anyway for something else, and dropped it into Kaworu's article to be helpful. That spawned this. --Malkinann (talk) 03:59, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Be careful of original synthesis when writing character articles, such as this sentence" "Asuka's self-confidence (and, correspondingly, her synch ratio and effectiveness as a pilot) begins to dwindle." Although we as viewers may be able to deduce this, sometimes it's not explicitly stated in the media. It would be appropriate to just state that in episode X, this happens. Anything else is up to the reader's deduction. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 21:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I've finished reformatting the Shinji, Rei, Asuka, and Misato articles. They're not perfect but they are looking better; they all need more in the concept and reception sections. The Rei article, aside from some issues, looks to be the best of these articles and I'm sure that with work it can easily be improved. I am hesitant about the Gendo and Kaworu articles, as I stated above, I think that they should be merged... But I'll get to that some other time. It seems finding relevant information regarding the characters' impacts is harder than I thought--GroovySandwich 03:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe the Kaworu article, even as it is, meets WP:GNG and follows WP:WAF enough to remain as a standalone article. --Malkinann (talk) 12:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree, i think Kaworu passes GNG (but barely). Anyways...I'm not so sure about quote boxes. ON Rei Ayanami it clutters a bit. And with Asuka Langley Soryu it's just misplaced. I think they're better to be put in a some simpler form. Quoting them seems unnecessary and could be expanded better in prose within the Creation and Concept sections instead. Plus it seems like it's a bit promoting. I would thing using quote boxes when a certain quote was iconic and given 3rd party review.Bread Ninja (talk) 05:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've reformatted Kaworu's page as well and will eventually add more references. I get what you're saying regarding the quote boxes and I suppose they are rather superfluous; I admit I added them because they looked nice on other pages. The formatting on Asuka's is a bit off, mostly due to having such a short concept/creation section. I suppose the quotes can be paraphrased and written into the prose of the respective sections instead--GroovySandwich 05:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

MOS:QUOTE recommends using the blockquotes that were in the article before, or using the {{quote}} template. I've tried out the quote template, but it doesn't look quite right in these articles. --Malkinann (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

That's only if we want to use them...i say no...they just take up more space than they should and ruin the flow of the article. Like in the End of evangelion or the main anime page...the problem i have with quotes is it takes so much space for a comment that can be easily summarized...thats why i say we should only use them when a certain quote is iconic.Bread Ninja (talk) 01:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I feel the quotes in Asuka and Rei's articles are pithy and would end up being wordier if they were paraphrased. --Malkinann (talk) 01:29, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Not really...and even if it did...it gets to the point faster than what quotes actually do...and i'm referring to almost all the quotes used in the NGE articles.Bread Ninja (talk) 06:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:Wikipe-tan unilaterally turned into a subpage of this WikiProject

See WT:Wikipe-tan#Nikkimaria_and_WP:OWN. I don't believe that Nikkimaria had the right to do this without consulting the members of this WikiProject first, so I'm letting you know now. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Southern California conventions

Should the relatively young cons of AM2, and Anime Conji have their own articles? Are the notable enough? --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hatsune Miku

Just a question without any initial prejudice toward the outcome: Is there a reason Hatsune Miku would not be covered under our scope? It could probably get more editor attention from this circle, which may have additional resources for the article, considering its traffic is off the charts after last night's Anime Expo concert. On another (perhaps related) note, Touhou Project is included within our project. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Support addition to WikiProject Anime and manga I have seen panels about Hatsune miku at other anime conventions as well, cant hurt scoping this under our project. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:01, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Support - there's an unofficial manga called hatsune mix (i really doubt its doujinshi though.)Bread Ninja (talk) 03:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Neutral Just because there's a few manga that use her and other Vocaloid characters doesn't mean she's really within our scope. She hasn't made any significant contributions within anime or manga, and most of her scope is within software, music and video games.--十八 04:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Support for the same reasons as those given by others above. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Support. While it's true that Miku and the Vocaloid franchise are, in a strict sense, a music phenomenon, the commercial entities and release aren't the important part - like Touhou, the interest is the entire amateur or doujin scene around the Vocaloids, which is in spirit the anime/manga subculture. The Japanese Music wikiproject doesn't have exclusive jurisdiction (or interest, probably) in that part. --Gwern (contribs) 21:22 7 July 2011 (GMT)

Done - Project page link added to the article's talk page. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Fan translations

If a usually reliable source mentions the existence of a fan translation or links to a fan translation, is it acceptable to use it as a source in an article, saying there is a fan translation? For example, the Red Cross Book, or The Comics Journal's "A Comics Reader's Guide to Manga Scanlations", or cases where an outline is posted of a book. --Malkinann (talk) 01:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

There is a scanlation of just about every manga we have an article on, so the information would be extremely trivial at best. On top of that, there will be neverending arguments as to why Abc can mention the existence of scanlations while Xyz cannot and which scanlations groups/agrigators should be mentioned. Remember, we have an obligation to avoid contributory copyright infringement and mentioning such things may end up promoting them. So its better to keep the lid on this can of worms and refrain from not mention them at all with the exceptions of notable cases where the publisher or studio takes legal actions beyond a C&D letter. —Farix (t | c) 03:48, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Farix, why are you arguing against a strawman? Malkinnan did not suggest mentioning every scanlation, but only the ones a RS found of interest for any reason they might do so. A RS might do so for many legitimate reasons, and it'd be foolish of us to cut off our noses for some highly abstract vague notion of copyright infringement.

It's only contributory infringement if we link straight to something that is a copyvio; see WP:COPYLINK on this. It's not contributory infringement to link to a page which links to a page which... Or at least, it would be fascinating to watch the expression on a judge asked to decide such a case. ('Your honor, the Wikipedia main page on October 23rd 2012 linked to an article on the magazine 2600, which linked to an Ars Technica article on decss, which linked to a site hosting decss. We'd like damages for each page view, which we calculate comes to $15 trillion dollars.') --Gwern (contribs) 21:27 7 July 2011 (GMT)

Its still promotional if we link it just to mention that fan-translations exist. And it's mainly trivial. There will always be fan-translations, why mention the existence of them just because a reliable source mentions it? The importance is pretty low.Bread Ninja (talk) 21:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

How is it 'promotional'? Whose interests are being 'promoted'? Manga Entertainment's? (I have a confession to make, I have secretly cornered the world supply of RCBs and plan to dump them once this sentence in Wikipedia pushes prices sky high!) And to hear you talk about importance, one would think we were giving it more than a single short sentence... No, it's not as important as translations of kimochi warui or comments from voice actors about what they were told lines or scenes meant, but any article is going to have a huge range of pieces of data covering an equally huge range of levels of importance. --Gwern (contribs) 01:34 8 July 2011 (GMT)

It's not a piece of data that connects with everything else that makes itreally relevant. it's like "oh btw...fan translations are out there". its promotional to Red cross book itself.Bread Ninja (talk) 01:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

In the case of Maka-Maka (manga), the scanlation was discussed by the editor of Eros Comix, who used it and found the series too tame initially to license. Should this be mentioned there? --Malkinann (talk) 03:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

probably....i think it should mention it subtly though unless more scanlation-related info rises.Bread Ninja (talk) 03:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

The important question is whether the mention constitutes undue weight - it may be better to just make a note of the mention on the article's talk page and revisit the issue after the article has been further developed in other areas (this is speaking generally, without me having looked at the specific article Malkinann linked to). —Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 208.124.90.208 (talk) ^{(what's this?)} 05:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you'd have to do a case-by-case analysis. In the case where a fan translation becomes an important part of the process toward license consideration or provides additional encyclopedic material (through an RS) that is not already covered without the mention of fan translations, it may be worth including. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:25, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Need help

Could someone fix the table for List of Kudo Shinichi he no Chosenjo episodes, the episodes do not have titles and I could not make the table without that parameter. Thanks DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure there is no episode title? Sometimes for dramas, the title is unlisted on the website but is present on the episode's title card. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Looking on the Japanese wiki, they list episode titles.--十八 20:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't find the episode titles on the episodes and the Japanese wikipedia lists the episodes "subtitle" instead of the "title" of the dramas. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 21:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Look at any episode list on the Japanese wiki; all of them list the title as "subtitle".--十八 22:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I took the titles but couldn't find the source for them. I need help with something else also, webcite is unable to archive this site so I'm wondering if there is another way to archive it since YTV will remove it at some point. Also, I need help translating the name for the screenplay in that same link. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Webcite might not work, but Google has a cached page for that website, though I don't know how long it'll last. As for the name, it looks like Takehiko Kanade (奏　建日子, Kanade Takehiko).--十八 06:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 06:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Light novel disambiguation

In response to an editors comments at Talk:R-15 (light novels) about a recent page move, I've opened a discussion about the proper disambiguation for light novels at the Book WikiProject. —Farix (t | c) 19:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Romance and Drama as redundant genres of Harem

While I generally trust Farix's edits as helpful and reliable contributions to the community, I simply cannot agree with him for this matter. Farix has reverted my recent edit (along with nine more of my previous edits) to To Heart 2 when I added romantic comedy (he also reverted an addition of romance before) and drama to the infobox's list of genres with the rationale that the genres are redundant when harem is listed. After talking to him on his user talk page, he also removed the genres from the Love Hina and School Rumble articles. I cannot agree with the removal of the drama and romance genres from the said articles, and that harem is a subgenre of romance. I am bringing the matter here for further comments and opinions regarding the issue. -- クラウド６６８ 23:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Agreed those series are romantic comedies, if anything romance should trump harem if what the farix is saying is correct (Romance being harem's parent category). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

It's okay to not have redundancy in the infobox genres, but I feel saying harem is wholly representative of both drama and romance is going a bit too far. Harem series don't necessarily have to have a large drama base (To Love Ru comes to mind, as it's mostly comedy based), so drama should be listed with harem wherever applicable. Also, I agree with Cloud in that, at least for the To Heart series, the individual routes are just as important as the harem aspect, so just listing the harem genre seems like you'd be ignoring the singular romance of the separate routes. I've never really liked the harem classification to begin with, and I feel it's pretty vague and unverifiable, along the same lines as ecchi.--十八 23:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Also would an anime like Inuyasha be properly be considered Harem. I could see it being called romantic but I don't see a lover's triangle as a Harem.--76.66.188.209 (talk) 02:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

A harem is generally obvious. A lover's triangle, as the harem genre article indicates, is not a harem. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 06:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Ops I meant to say not considered Harem.--76.66.188.209 (talk) 22:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Let me restate what I've already said on my talk page. That harem is a subgenre of romance is rather obvious. You can't have a harem series without involving romance between the male protagonists and multiple female characters (or the inverse of a female protagonists and multiple male characters). This makes them redundant to each other, and according to the infobox's documentation the more specific harem genre should be listed over the more general romance. Second drama and comedy are opposite genres. Dramas are suppose to be serious through its entirety with the occasional (if any) moments of humor. Comedies are the exact opposite in that they are filled with humorist jokes and situations with the occasional (if any) serious moments. So if an edit insists that a series is both, then they must have a reliable source supporting it. —Farix (t | c) 10:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually you can. There have been people who have listed Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei as harem. It is defiantly not a series about romantic triangles even on a secondary level.陣内 _Jinnai 13:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

If it doesn't involve any romance between the protagonists and many characters, then it cannot be called a harem series. —Farix (t | c) 14:30, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Visual novel is a type of work where multiple individual storylines branch off from one basic plot. When you list a visual novel as a harem, it is implied that the entire work is a story where the protagonist becomes involved in multiple relationships with other characters, romantic or otherwise. The problem is that, in the case of romance visual novels, each storyline revolves only around a singular romance with only one character, in which case the story does not qualify as a harem. Listing a visual novel as a harem but not romance neglects these separate storylines, which together quantify as the majority of the visual novel in most cases. -- クラウド６６８ 04:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't make much sense to me....Bread Ninja (talk) 05:09, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Any visual novels with multiple "girls" is going to have a harem. Even if the player does purse just one of the girls at a time, there will still unrequited love with the other female characters in the main plot. Another aspect of the game play is that the player can also peruse more than one girl, even if the player ends up with just one girl at the end. —Farix (t | c) 11:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

That is not the definition of harem for VNs; they are a different media. Games, which VNs are loosely classified as, have gameplay mechanics that change normal litterary genres to be different than they are for linear works. This is true for a "harem" genre which means something completely different for a VN than it does for an anime because of its non-linearity and multiple endings.

Also, Zetsubo Sensei has been classified as a "harem" by RSes out there and it does not contain any romantic elements between the main titular character and the female classmates except for gag usage. It is classified by any RS as a romance or romance comedy series. It may be an exception that proves the rule, but it still should not be always seen as harem=romance.陣内 _Jinnai 00:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay Here's the 2 sources I found:

Ask John - basically a "harem anime" can be classified as an anime with 1 male ptoagonist surrounded by at least 3 other girls; he specifically excludes love-triangles. It does not require romance, only that they be around the protagonist in the storyline. He gons on to mention some fan assumption ones also.
Otaku Encyclopedia, p97 - (paraphrase) A genre of anime, manga and video games that brings a large number of beautiful women around 1 man. Usually a comedy where he stumbles around with several of them and has erotic ecounters before choosing one.

While both have commonalities, they are both have a lot of exclusivity. One could assume the Ask John one could easily apply the manga, but one requires romance and the other doesn't and both have about the same level of weight.陣内 _Jinnai 01:06, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought infobox genres were a non-issue, in that we went with whatever genres could be sourced to reliable sources (within reason)? —Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 66.116.19.124 (talk) ^{(what's this?)} 01:16, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

While the gameplay does allow for pursuing more than one girl, to say that a visual novel is harem because of that is ignoring the separate, independent scenarios. If you can say a visual novel is of the harem genre because of the "common route", then, to give both "halves" of the game fair representation, it should also be called a romance because of the individual routes. Another thing is that it is neither obvious nor demonstrated whether the harem genre is a subgenre of romance. The two sources that Jinnai provided also do not support this claim, and suggest the genre does not require romance to be part of the story. -- クラウド６６８ 06:39, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

New episode list article which needs some work

List of The Story of Pollyanna, Girl of Love episodes was just completed, but it needs one or more people to go over it and fix header formatting and wording issues. While Dairi no Kenkyo is very enthusiastic about contributing such lists (see the edit summaries in the history of the article), his wording is not always in compliance with accepted standards for such lists. I did a quick once-over and removed some weird formatting characters and moved the article to the correct title. Thanks for any help. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Absorption of WikiProject Sailor Moon into Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga

There is a proposal about absorbing WikiProject Sailor Moon into WP:ANIME as an inactive work group at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sailor Moon#Converstion into a task force WP:ANIME. G.A.S ^talk 04:55, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Just making sure people notice this as JJ98 seems bent on doing this. Please comment over there if you have any thoughts on the issue. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:53, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

It was me, I've posted it myself. No worries. :) JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 18:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

More eyes would be appreciated here, because I feel this discussion is becoming uncivil. --Malkinann (talk) 04:06, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Kira Yamato

These is a discussion about whether certain events of the series should be mentioned in the article. [3] I think input from a larger number of editors would be useful in reaching concensus. Edward321 (talk) 22:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Fall 2011

Bakuman II (バクマン。) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Battle Spirits Heroes (バトルスピリッツ) (Fall 2011, ANNE, ANN])
Ben-To (ベン・トー) (October 2011)
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai (僕は友達が少ない) (Fall 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Chihayafuru (ちはやふる) (October 2011 ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Coppelion (コッペリオン) (October 2011)
error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN)
Future Diary (未来日記) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Guilty Crown (ギルティクラウン) (October 2011)
Kimi to Boku (君と僕。) (October 2011)
Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere (境界線上のホライゾン, Kyōkai Senjō no Horizon) (October 2011)
error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) second season (Fall 2011, ANNE, ANN)
Last Exile: Fam, the Silver Wing (ラストエグザイル-銀翼のファム-) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2, ANN3)
Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai! (真剣で私に恋しなさい！) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Mashiroiro Symphony: Love is pure white (ましろ色シンフォニー -Love is pure white-) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN)
Mobile Suit Gundam AGE (機動戦士ガンダムAGE <エイジ>) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2, ANN3)
Persona 4 (ペルソナ4) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN)
Phi Brain: Kami no Puzzle (ファイ・ブレイン神のパズル) (October 2011)
Shakugan no Shana III (灼眼のシャナ) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN)
Tamayura: Hitotose (たまゆら ~ hitotose ~) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN1, ANN2)
Un-Go (アンゴ) (October 2011)
error: {{nihongo}}: Japanese or romaji text required (help) (October 2011, ANNE, ANN)

The above list is to show where we currently have gaps in our coverage for the upcoming fall season. This is not a complete list and some of the series names may change by October. At first posting, there are 16 series schedule for October, 7 of which are redlinks. —Farix (t | c) 00:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Created Ben-To, and fixed the link of Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!, so now there's 5 red links.--十八 06:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the list. I've added missing shows. Note that Chihayafuru is the winner of the 2009 Manga Taishō, so it should already have enough notability for an article. Guilty Crown and Un-Go are the upcoming Noitamina shows. Coppelion can be an interesting article if sources can be found. The anime had been in planning for some time, but because it depicts Japan following a nuclear fallout, it was rumored that the manga author and the anime staff had to postpone production because of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster. I'll be taking up Last Exile again to produce quality material after bringing the first series to GA status. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 07:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Is there any conformation that the second season of Squid Girl (Shinryaku!? Ika Musume), which you added to the list, will be out this October? Because so far, I haven't seen anything to confirm that and it looks like it will be a Winter series. —Farix (t | c) 10:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Until we get conformation, I'm removing Squid Girl and Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai from the list. I'm also removing Busō Shinki Moon Angel as that will not be televised. —Farix (t | c) 10:58, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There was a magazine scan floating around in the first few days of this month indicating that second season starts in October. As far as I know, there are no web sources confirming this outright, but I don't peruse Japanese news sites that often. In the general scheme of things, its original announcement match the time around when most of the fall shows were announced. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 11:05, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Coppelion and Guilty Crown created. —Farix (t | c) 16:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Un-Go created. —Farix (t | c) 17:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Everything is now bluelinked until the next round of announcements. Does anyone like for me to post the list of upcoming anime TV series or should I just refer everyone to my userpage? —Farix (t | c) 01:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

All of these will need to be marked with Category:Anime of 2011 as well. Good job on creating all the missing articles. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

You could probably just start a new discussion every season and point a link to the list(s) to your user page. We can discuss changes here. On a side note, I wonder if it's worth putting a countdown to the next season like WikiProject Olympics for their page. It might be a good reminder for us. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:56, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Since these all look to be debuing in October should we just call this October 2011? What if new series air in December? AweCo (talk) 03:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

No, because there are a few series that may start as early as the end of September or as late as the beginning of December. But most of the series will begin in October. —Farix (t | c) 15:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Yaoi pictures

The German Wikipedia has been working with Animexx to provide good pictures for their articles on shonen-ai and yaoi, and now I'm not quite sure how to rearrange the pictures we have in the yaoi article. I've started a discussion here and would appreciate input. --Malkinann (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Might be good to do Tuxedo Mask and Zoycite since they are a rather old shipped yaoi couple, even though the female-ization of Zoy in the dub didn't let on about this. AweCo (talk) 03:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal conflict

Currently, I'm on my third revert after this edit and I'm wondering if I'm in the wrong here. I've been reverting the section Xyz Monsters back to Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game as seen in the edit but the user insists the previous version aids users in understanding the context of the plot better. I'm hoping for some advice for this situation. Thanks. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 19:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't add anything. As written, it is just random information with no explanation as to why it is important to the plot. While the Xyz Monsters are an important plot point, how they are summoned in the game is not. —Farix (t | c) 21:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, the current section about those monsters were copyedited from a messier version. Should I just remove it? I believe other editors might attempt to re-add that information though. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Conflict with pronouns

I am currently in a dispute with another user at Talk:Wandering Son#Pronouns on whether to refer to fictional transgendered characters using pronouns that describe their assigned sex or internal gender. We've already gotten a third opinion, but I would like more input from the project about this. There's also a related discussion at WT:MOS#Identity on whether the gender-specific clause in MOS:IDENTITY should apply to fictional characters.--十八 20:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Don't really have an opinion save I like the latter. It can cause issues since BLP isn't a factor here. I was thinking of Baka and Test where one of the characters constantly refers to themself as a male, but everyone else refers to them as a female.陣内 _Jinnai 21:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Changing the guidelines for LEAD titles

I'm wondering if we should take a cue from WP:VG for LEAD titles and change them to remove repetitious romanji . This would not affect titles in the body of the work. This would only affect series titles.

The way the Mediation came out with, it basically would affect titles like Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex where it is part of a larger series and could therefore remove the series title since there would be a link back to Ghost in the Shell which should have the romanji in it on the main page.

It was done because VGs often use long titles, mostly because they use subtitles as part of a larger series. In that regard, I believe the anime/manga would benefit from this as it clears up the LEAD which there are constant attempts at FACs to condense info.陣内 _Jinnai 00:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I have arguments both for and against the proposal... neutral for now. G.A.S ^talk 04:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Argument for: We also provide the romaji and kanji in the infobox; above arguments.
Arguments against: I am not sure what we are going to do with the literal translation in the article (makes no sense without original text); this goes against MOS:JP#Using Japanese in the article body (I.e. having to go to another article for the English/Kanji/Romaji combination... though countered by infobox argument).

~~I believe it's discouraged to use wikilinks on bolded text.~~ The Manual of Style discourages putting links in the boldface reiteration of the title. This gets pointed out in FAC/FLC every time. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 06:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

FLRC List of YuYu Hakusho episodes (season 4)

I have nominated List of YuYu Hakusho episodes (season 4) for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DragonZero (talk • contribs) 15:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)