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Add Colony  5

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Added 5-0. Makkool (talk) 17:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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There are lots of colonies to this day.

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  1. As nominator. To geography basics. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 12:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. Level 4 article. The Blue Rider 17:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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Some post-Soviet regions

Add Central Federal District  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 18:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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It has by far the highest population (40m+) and GDP (~566b) of Russia's federal districts. Should most certainly be at V4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Strong support as nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. Makkool (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 11:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Moscow Oblast  5

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Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 19:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Major component of the Moscow metropolitan area with a population of ~8.5m and a GDP of $72 billion. Most certainly more vital than the vast majority of the republics. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. Makkool (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Sure. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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Add Krasnodar Krai  5

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The Kuban is a culturally distinct region of Russia with a population of ~5.8m. and a GDP of $35 billion. Most certainly more vital than the vast majority of the republics. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. Makkool (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Donbas  5

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A historically relevant region of Ukraine that only became more relevant during the Russo-Ukrainian War  5. 3 of the 24 Ukrainian cities we list are located in the region and so was one-seventh of the pre-war population. I'd probably support this at V4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support per nom. Gizza (talk) 01:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. Makkool (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Cisleithania and Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen

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No interest. Makkool (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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The Austrian and Hungarian sides of Austria-Hungary  4 respectively. Add under History.

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  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Battle of Guilford Court House  5

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Added 4–1. No consensus as to what to swap this with. Makkool (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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The American Revolutionary War  4 could definitely use more than 3 battles when the Civil War has 16. This battle had major effects on the war, led to the Siege of Yorktown  5 which ended the war, became the first American Revolution battle to have its battlefield preserved by the National Park Service, and it even has a town in New Hampshire named after it!

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support as a swap with some Civil War battle, 16 is way too many. Oppose otherwise. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
    Which battle would you suggest removing? QuicoleJR (talk) 13:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support add, can't say which Civil War battle should be cut Makkool (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 18:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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  1. 16 Civil War battles is too many but the Civil War was still fought on a greater order of magnitude than the American Revolutionary War. (The biggest Civil War battles killed more than the entire Revolution). And if we added another American Revolutionary War battle, I'd add Trenton or Brandywine before this one. pbp 12:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Trinity (nuclear test)  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 16:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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Important subtopic of the Manhattan Project. Interstellarity (talk) 13:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:42, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Manhattan Project  4 is Level 4, so we could spare a subtopic. Makkool (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Causes of World War I  5

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Added 4-0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 13:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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Covers several events that may not be vital in themselves but together are quite important, such as the First Moroccan Crisis, the Bosnian Crisis, the Agadir Crisis, and the Anglo-German naval arms race. It is ranked Top Importance by WikiProject European History, same as Causes of World War II  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. We list Causes of World War II, may support Causes of the Great Depression. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. It's needed. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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  1. How many war causation articles are at VA?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Hallstatt

Last comment 27 days ago. Removed 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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It's pretty and it receives a disproportionate amount of tourists relative to its size, but it's ultimately a small village settlement.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. (We already list Salzkammergut  5.) Makkool (talk) 17:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Makkool. Hallstadt culture and its associated UNESCO site are vital; the hamlet of Hallstadt is not pbp 00:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 17:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Remove San Cristóbal de La Laguna

Last comment 30 days ago. Removed 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

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Tenerife  5 (pop. 949k) does not need two settlements listed. Plus, San Cristóbal de La Laguna is less than 10km from Santa Cruz de Tenerife  5), the capital and largest city of the island.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:16, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. pbp 19:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 17:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 14:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Dominican War of Independence  5

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Added 4-0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 13:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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Led to the creation of the Dominican Republic  4. Unique among Latin American wars of Independence, as this was fought against Haiti.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Athenian democracy  5

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Added 5-0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 13:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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The prototypical Ancient Greek democratic city-state.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. reasonable addition Aurangzebra (talk) 20:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 03:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. The first government to be called a democracy. An easy add. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  5. Important. The Blue Rider 14:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Trojan Horse  5

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Added 7-0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 13:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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Famous weapon of the Trojan War. Maybe better filed under Greek Mythology.

Support
  1. As nominator. To history. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 17:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 03:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 22:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  6. Support, but file under Mythological items. Makkool (talk) 11:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
  7. SupportGeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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Swap Bratsk with Novokuznetsk  5

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Swapped 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:43, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Bratsk is already covered by Irkutsk  5 and Irkutsk Oblast  5. Novokuznetsk, on the other hand, is a major coal mining and industrial centre and has the 16th highest GMP of all Russian cities. Up until recently, it had a higher population than Kemerovo  5. It feels odd excluding it from a list of 6 cities in the Siberian Federal District, let alone 12. Compared to Bratsk, Novo has slightly more interwikis, double the English and Russian pageviews, and 2.4 times the population. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Bratsk has 53 daily page views, which quite low. Makkool (talk) 12:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support swap. Interstellarity (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Nothing with 53 daily views should be vital. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 00:33, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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Third batch of history removals

Remove History of Svalbard

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 18:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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Features some interesting stories about Arctic exploration, but home to only 2,500 people.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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Remove American automobile industry in the 1950s

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 18:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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Another interesting article, archetypal of postwar industry in many ways, but too narrow in my opinion.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of Franconia

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Removed 5-0, swapped with Franconia. Makkool (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Since we don’t list Franconia. Has some coverage from History of Bavaria  5. Just 3 interwikis.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support swap with Franconia  5, which definitely should be listed. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Swap with Franconia pbp 16:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. support swap. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. support swap with Franconia Makkool (talk) 20:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of Guernsey and History of Jersey

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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These already have some coverage from the History of the British Isles  5 article. Minor regions of the U.K.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. pbp 03:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 2011–2015 Myanmar political reforms

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Removed 4–0. Makkool (talk) 19:38, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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These reforms were rolled back devastatingly after the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état  5. I would put these reforms on the same level as the failed Sudanese transition to democracy (2019–2021), which we voted to remove recently. Low pageviews and interwikis suggest this period is not yet well-defined.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. No lasting impact. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Iran–United States relations

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Removed 5-0. PrimalMustelid (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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This provides a convenient summary of conflicts between nations but isn’t technically a “History” article. It is the only “country relations” entry we list.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:53, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  5. per nom-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of monorail

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Removed 6-0. PrimalMustelid (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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Minor article in the History of rail transport  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Not every VA4 topic needs its history listed. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:53, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  6. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:48, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Danish colonization of the Americas

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Removed 5-0. PrimalMustelid (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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I think this falls under interesting but not vital. Keep in mind we have Danish overseas colonies  5 and Danish Realm  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. I could see arguments for including Danish West Indies, but we don't need this overview page when all they had over there was that and Greenland. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:53, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Death of Azaria Chamberlain

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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Since we voted to remove Killing of JonBenét Ramsey, I was wondering what you think of this one.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. pbp 03:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Continental Europe  5

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Added 4-0, 1 neutral. Makkool (talk) 17:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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Major geographical region and term. Rated Top-Importance in Wikiproject Geography.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. Seems important enough to include. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  3. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  4. pbp 02:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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  1. As a geographer I'm torn on this. I don't actually believe in the myth of a European Continent, and think the region is a cultural gradient without a hard boundary, and that geologically Europe is a Peninusla. The term has historical and political significance, but I'd rather another article be included. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add all 7 geographical regions of Türkiye

Türkiye and Iran have comparable populations, but Iran gets over twice as many cities as Türkiye. Iran also has all but two of its provinces and Türkiye has NOTHING under country subdivisions? The geographical regions of Turkey are definitely all vital at this level. The articles in question are:

We should have a bit more from Türkiye, but this is just a start. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Add Aegean Region

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 11:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Population ~ 10.5m. Largest city is İzmir  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Black Sea Region

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 11:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Population ~ 7.7m. Largest city is Samsun  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Central Anatolia Region

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Population ~ 12.9m. Largest city is Ankara  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Eastern Anatolia Region

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Population ~ 6.5m. Largest city is Van, Turkey  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Marmara Region

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Population ~ 26.7m. Largest city is Istanbul  3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mediterranean Region, Turkey

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Population ~ 10.6m. Largest city is Antalya  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Southeastern Anatolia Region

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Population ~ 8.6m. Largest city is Urfa  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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General discussion

  1. Not sure I am comfortable adding these as a group.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
    I will reformat my proposal. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Add Cappadocia  5 (not OP)

Added 4-0. starship.paint (RUN) 10:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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We should list some of the historical regions as well. Cappadocia definitely, as its still relevant today and a popular tourist destination. Place under Central Anatolia Region.

Support
  1. As nom.Makkool (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. J947 ‡ edits 22:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add East Thrace  5 (not OP)

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The part of Turkey that's in Europe. Place under Marmara Region.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 12:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Has a higher population than Belgium. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 18:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Bessarabia  5

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Currently we list Banat, Galicia, Pomerania and Silesia. Bessarabia is another historical region of Europe with relevance in the modern day.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Decided to land on this side. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 23:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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  1. I would support historical regions like this, but it's really just Moldova  4 with Transnistria  4 traded for Budjak and part of Chernivtsi Oblast  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Languedoc  5 and Midi-Pyrénées  5

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All of the pre-2016 regions of France should have representation imo. These were the two regions that were merged into Occitania  5 in 2016. Languedoc in particular was kept at V4 for an extended amount of time during the cull. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 14:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Interstellarity (talk) 00:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  5. Support Languedoc-Roussillon NOT Languedoc and support Midi-Pyrénées. Languedoc-Roussillon was the region that was merged to form Occitania. Languedoc is the historical province. Languedoc-Roussillon has 102 interwikis, Languedoc only has 52 interwikis. Aurangzebra (talk) 19:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Jiaxing  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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One of four Tier 2 Chinese cities to not be V5. Located in Zhejiang  4. 45 interwikis. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. And support the other three Tier 2 cities as well. China is underrepresented relative to its population pbp 23:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
    @Purplebackpack89: May I copy your support for the other three, which I have proposed below? Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
    Certainly pbp 01:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. China is still under-represented Makkool (talk) 21:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Taizhou, Zhejiang  5

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Per my nominations above. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:34, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Adding User:Purplebackpack89 per his vote at Jiangxi at 23:50 Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. China is still under-represented Makkool (talk) 21:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Jiujiang  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Per my nominations above. Note that Jiangxi  5 only has Nanchang  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Adding User:Purplebackpack89 per his vote at Jiangxi at 23:50 Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. China is still under-represented Makkool (talk) 21:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Tripolitania  5 and Cyrenaica  5

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If we have as many Libyan cities as we do, then we can most certainly make room for these. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Iostn (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Weimar  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Surprising omission under Cities. Definitely the most important city in Thuringia. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Influential philosophically and politically, the birthplace of the Weimar Republic  5. The Blue Rider 00:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Jacobitism  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Major political movement in Great Britain. Cause many a headache for the British government due to foreign support and Irish nationalist undertones.

Support
  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 06:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Seems like it used to be pretty important. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. pbp 19:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Pax Britannica  5

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Period of relative peace between the Great Powers. Important concept for International relations (1814–1919)  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Yes. The Blue Rider 00:45, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Indo-Pakistani wars

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Added 5–0. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Though I would support listing the four major wars fought between 1947 and 1999 (we only have the Indo-Pakistani war of 1971  5), this is a convenient grouping for one of the longest-lasting conflicts of the modern era.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 14:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  5. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Split of Christianity and Judaism  5

Passed. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC) ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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A very significant historical process that gave rise to the Abrahamic complex of religions. Essential for the history of Christianity  3 and of Judaism  3.

Support
  1. As nom. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 19:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Seems pretty important. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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Add Southwest Papua

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It's the only Indonesian province that is not listed here. IDBLWK (talk) 05:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. IDBLWK (talk) 05:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 17:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 03:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Recentism, it has yet to be two years since it split off from West Papua. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 17:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Ohnoitsvileplume. The Blue Rider 19:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Belt and Road Initiative  5

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Added 6-0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 13:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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A centerpiece of Chinese foreign policy, unprecedented in scope and magnitude of investment.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 02:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 03:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. Kevinishere15 (talk) 03:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 03:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  5. Important, perhaps level 4. The Blue Rider 14:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
  6. pbp 16:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Battle of Chaeronea (338 BC)

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Philip II of Macedon's victory over the Greek city-states. Led to the rise of Macedonian dominance in the Ancient Greek world.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. Though I've never heard of this battle, high importance in the Classical Greece and Rome project (on the same level as Socrates and amphitheater) seems to indicate importance. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 03:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Iostn (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Council of Trent

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One of the most important events of the Counter-Reformation  4. It shaped the trajectory of the Catholic Church for the future, solidifying its doctrines and practices.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 16:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. pbp 18:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Very important. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Hans Island

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Not added 2-3. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Physical Geography is well under the quota, so we have room for more articles there. This island was famously the subject of a decades-long dispute between Canada and Denmark, which ended in them splitting it down the middle, creating a land border between the two. 42 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Greenland.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Meh, more like an interesting historical trivia than vital. The Blue Rider 22:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per bluerider. Kevinishere15 (talk) 06:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per BlueRider. It's uninhabited and not particularly large. pbp 16:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Neutral
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Remove Siena  5

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Not removed 2-2. Makkool (talk) 10:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Siena is the 12th largest city in the region by number of inhabitants, with a population of 53,062 as of 2022. Certainly one of the smaller places we list.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Italy is over-represented. The city has historical importance, but in my opinion it's not by itself enough to be listed as vital. Makkool (talk) 14:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Historically significant. More to city vitality than population alone. pbp 16:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per above Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Swedish colonies in the Americas

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Removed 4–0. Kevinishere15 (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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For similar reasons to the above removal of the equivalent article for the Danish. Sweden's American colonies were few and they were short-lived, and Swedish overseas colonies  5 is also only VA5, so this article does not need to be listed.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom.--Hoben7599 (talk) 15:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:27, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
  4. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Add Late modern period  5

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Added 5–0. Makkool (talk) 11:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Rated Top-importance to the History Wikiproject. To be paired with Early modern period  2.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 17:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. Was removed from all levels and should be returned to V3. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 03:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom and ohno. Kevinishere15 (talk) 08:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  4. ibid. --Hoben7599 (talk) 14:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  5. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Pisa  5

WITHDRAWN
Withdrawn by nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 03:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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The Leaning Tower of Pisa  4 is vital; the city itself (pop. 99k) is not.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Historically significant. More to city vitality than population alone. pbp 16:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per pbp; birthplace of Republic of Pisa  5. The Blue Rider 19:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Weak oppose; Tuscany may be overrepresented, but as some have stated, it is much more than its tower and is not the first Italian city I would remove. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 17:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per above Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. Even just on the basis of being an extremely popular tourist destination alone, this deserves to be here (I will die on the hill that popular tourist spots should be considered for VA5 even if the town itself is low in population). Aurangzebra (talk) 22:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Giugliano in Campania

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Removed 5–0. Makkool (talk) 08:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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A not particularly large (pop. 124k) suburb of Naples  4.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. pbp 16:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 17:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. per nom, strange inclusion Aurangzebra (talk) 16:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
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Add Lower Manhattan and Midtown Manhattan

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Not added 1-3. Makkool (talk) 10:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Lower Manhattan is the historical birthplace of New York City  3 and for its first 225 years was the entirety of the city. Midtown Manhattan is the largest central business district in the world, and has been ranked as the densest central business district in the world.

Support
As nominator. Note that we list Chicago Loop  5. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  1. Support Midtown as a swap with Wall Street  5, which often refers to a metonym of Financial District. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 01:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Similar to the reasons I opposed Manhattan  5 --> 4 (It was proposed but no consensus to do it). Manhattan itself is currently VA5, do we need MULTIPLE articles on Manhattan (itself a part of New York City) at this level? Isn't much of what's in Lower and Midtown Manhattan somewhat redundant to Manhattan and New York City? And I as I said with Manhattan up to 4, are Manhattan/Lower Manhattan/Midtown Manhattan so gosh darn important that they get multiple vital articles while the dozens of American cities we've removed from VA5 in the past year or so get none? pbp 12:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
    are Manhattan/Lower Manhattan/Midtown Manhattan so gosh darn important that they get multiple vital articles while the dozens of American cities we've removed from VA5 in the past year or so get none? Yes, unironically. The importance of New York City – especially for international readers – is next level compared to many (if not most) American "cities" which are mostly just a small number of tall buildings surrounded by lots of single-family housing. Either of Midtown or Lower Manhattan would far exceed many American cities we removed by daytime population, economic output, and number of notable landmarks. feminist🩸 (talk) 00:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
    What about the rest of what I said, like the redundancy part? pbp 16:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. per pbp. Lower Manhattan and Midtown Manhattan are completely redundant to Manhattan  5 and to a lesser extent Wall Street  5. It made sense to include all the 5 boroughs of NYC since they have very distinct cultures, histories, and urban geographies (they basically feel like 5 different cities combined into one). But Lower Manhattan and Midtown Manhattan are completely subsumed by Manhattan. I can anecdotally back this up because I currently live in NYC (and lived for a year in Lower Manhattan). Aurangzebra (talk) 22:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Mixed
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On second thoughts, I no longer support this, mainly per Aurangzebra. I can't formally withdraw this nomination because OhnoitsvileplumeXD has supported, but I am retracting my support vote. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Swap Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis  5 for Trier

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No consensus, 1-1, with no votes in a month and a half

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Saint-Denis is a suburb of Paris that has a high population and appears to be a major part of Paris, but isn't really that notable by itself other than having a couple of landmarks, and in all honesty I am not sure what its doing here. Trier is relatively small population-wise, but is a city of great historical and cultural importance, with many important historical events having taken place here.

Support
  1. As nom Iostn (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2024 (UTC)


Oppose
  1. Oppose removal. "A couple of landmarks" is rather an understatement...a basilica that's the burial site of French kings? The national stadium that also hosted the 2024 Olympics? Furthermore, removing Saint-Denis would leave the Ile-de-France, pop 10 million, with just two VA5 entries, including none from the Petite Couronne (pop 4.5 million). pbp 23:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
    That's more of an argument for listing Basilica of Saint-Denis, which isn't currently VA, rather than the district its located in (in retrospect that may have been a better swap proposal, but I still think Trier should be listed). Also Ile-de-France is essentially just the Paris metro area, and for comparison, only two areas of London are currently listed (City of London  5, City of Westminster  5). In general the threshold for suburbs and districts is high and in this case listing the landmarks instead makes more sense. Iostn (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add History of archaeology  5

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Added 4–0. Kevinishere15 (talk) 18:34, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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We list the History of every other Level 3 discipline, so it's reasonable to have this one as well.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Fair enough reason. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makes sense. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 02:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makes sense to me. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
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Add May Fourth Movement  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 09:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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A major event in modern Chinese history with major implications such as the founding of the Chinese Communist Party  4.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:54, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Easy support. The Blue Rider 19:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add 2000 United States Presidential election

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Not added 2-4. Makkool (talk) 10:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Bush v Gore a highly contentious election that set the stage for 21st century American politics. 45 interwikis and over half a million page views in the past 30 days. If added I would suggest History > contemporary > United States, it would be the first election added

Support
  1. @Kevinishere15: Putting my money where my mouth is Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. I think we should list elections, and this should definitely be one of the ones we include. Kevinishere15 (talk) 05:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. We could really make the case for tons of important US presidential elections that we don't really have space for, and I don't think this really stands out too strongly other than the disputed outcome, it would make more sense to list elections included with the rise of different Party Systems, if anything. Iostn (talk) 20:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  2. (I may change my vote or rationale pending how the 2024 election develops) Similar to LostN. I don't think this one is a whole helluvalot more important than perhaps a dozen others, for one reason or another. 2020 provoked January 6th. 2008 (and possibly 2024) elected somebody historic. 1932 ushered in the New Deal. 1876 was also hotly contested and litigated (at least figuratively, if not literally). 1860 (listed below) ushered in the American Civil War. 1796 was the first under the two-party system. 1800 was the first peaceful transfer. Also, FWIW, G.W. Bush is Lv4, Gore, Cheney and the Clinton are Lv5. pbp 21:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
  3. oppose because I don't really think this one is that important in a long term perspective. I think that there are thousands of changes in administration in governments around the world throughout history that are likely more impactful then this. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
  4. Oppose, would maybe support adding Bush v. Gore or 2000 United States presidential election in Florida. The Blue Rider 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
    What would make the election in Flordia any more vital then the election overall? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:02, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Neutral
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Add Sha Tin District

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Not added 1-3. Makkool (talk) 10:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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The largest district of Hong Kong  3 by population, larger than many cities we list.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 03:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose. I don't think Population alone makes an area vital, and if we start adding specific articles for districts and neighborhoods within cities, this list will get enormous.GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. per PBP. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Adding individual districts is a bridge too far, at least on this level, maybe on V6? Kevinishere15 (talk) 19:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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What makes, for example, Jersey City, New Jersey  5 any more of a city than Sha Tin, other than Jersey City being legally recognised as a city? feminist🩸 (talk) 03:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

What makes it more of a CITY, or what makes it more VITAL?
Because Sha Tin is a district of Hong Kong, you would expect overlap between the two articles. Because Jersey City is an independent city, you would NOT expect it to overlap with NYC or Newark.
And if we're doing rhetoricals, what makes Sha Tin more vital than Ansan, Korea, which is about the same size and is up for removal? What makes it AS vital as Brooklyn or Queens, which have considerably more people? pbp 14:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add East Jerusalem

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Added 5–1. Makkool (talk) 10:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Important geopolitical concept. pbp 17:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. pbp 17:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. If we list East Berlin  5, we should also list East Jerusalem. feminist🩸 (talk) 00:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Iostn (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 03:10, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose. I'll be the dissenting opinion here. While I know East Jerusalem has some broad significance, I don't think subregions and districts within cities need to be included. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Neutral
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