Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources
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Sirus Gaming
[edit]Find video game sources: "Sirus Gaming" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
This one is pretty niche but it might be salvagable. They do have an editor in chief, and a means for reporting issues or corrections.[1] I realize it's nowhere near the same level as IGN. But with those big outlets moving more to user generated content and AI, with fewer actual journalists, I feel like we ought to hang onto what few journalists we can still find. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:09, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not too sure about this one. It doesn't look bad, per se, but there's no public editorial policy, and I had to search elsewhere to find the list of writers (which appears to be auto-generated by the CMS anyway, sorted by number of articles written). Having an editor-in-chief and public email address is good but ultimately has little impact on reliability. A single article published over the last fortnight doesn't give much faith either, holiday period or not. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I feel reasonably confident that's just the holidays. I agree that we'd want to see the editor-in-chief enforce some type of editorial policy. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
creativebloq
[edit]Find video game sources: "creativebloq" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Owned by Future plc. Seen it a few times while searching game engine articles. My assumption is that it is good. Surprisingly it doesn't seem to be listed anywhere.— Preceding unsigned comment added by J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk • contribs)
MSN Gaming Zone (1996–2002)
[edit]Find video game sources: "MSN Gaming Zone" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
MSN Games is a casual gaming website. Before that, way before that, back in the halcyon days of the Internet, it was founded in 1996 and soon came to be known as MSN Gaming Zone, which was much like Microsoft's own version of GameSpy of the day. There is unfortunately not much to find in its list of games that would be useful for Wikipedia, and attempting to search the homepage and the index beyond 2001 on the Internet Archive returns an error page, typically a "Browser Not Supported" message. However, I have found old news articles, especially for Microsoft titles, in places such as here and interviews and behind-the-scenes in (confusingly) the Tips & Strategies sections of a few entries, both of which I could not find anywhere else on the Web. It seems those articles are original content by Microsoft. Note that there was also a website called MSN Game News, also run by Microsoft, but virtually none of the article content is by Microsoft itself; the overwhelming majority comes from GameSpot and can still be read there. Anyway, the latest article I could find on MSN Gaming Zone is one dated September 23, 2002. Hence, I have marked the year 2002 as the cutoff date for this source. FreeMediaKid$ 09:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Sources in Bejeweled
[edit]Bejeweled (video game) is currently undergoing a FAC per my nomination. Jo-Jo Eumerus has conducted a source review and is questioning whether some of the references have been "subject to some kind of editorial review". These sources are considered reliable per this page, but Jo-Jo says he is "trying to be a bit more rigorous with videogame sources" than usual because he's unsure if WP:VG/S is "up-to-date" and he doesn't "have the expertise to judge VG sources otherwise". As such, I would like thoughts on the following links:
- https://kotaku.com/from-bejeweled-to-plants-vs-zombies-how-popcap-got-jus-1844338169
- https://kotaku.com/15-years-later-november-2004-might-still-be-one-of-the-1839905549
- https://www.gamespot.com/articles/polishing-bejeweled/1100-6301815/
- https://www.pcgamer.com/popcap-week-john-vechey-on-founding-popcap-making-bejeweled/
- https://www.gamesradar.com/the-legacy-of-match-three-games-from-bejeweled-to-candy-crush/
Lazman321 (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Kotaku has been debated several times recently. The other three are fine with no debates or questions to my knowledge. -- ferret (talk) 21:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Seconded, though I think Kotaku was deemed usable in that timeframe. Sergecross73 msg me 21:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see no problem. All of these sources are reliable. At worst, some may be situational, but these all appear to be proper fact-based articles with something substantial to say.
- Are there any facts that are in dispute? Shooterwalker (talk) 18:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- No specific facts were in dispute. Jo-Jo just listed a series of URLs used in the article and asked if they underwent editorial review. Lazman321 (talk) 01:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Dota2.ru
[edit]Find video game sources: "...Dota2.ru..." – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
After editing the Dota Pro Circuit page and the comment from Dissident93, I would like to raise the question of the validity of Dota2.ru as a esports gaming source.
This site is an official media outlet with a license to operate in many post-Soviet countries (Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and others). The largest Dota 2 media in the Russian-speaking space. This is not a fan site, news can only be written by the editorial staff, information about the editorial staff is available. They publish a large number of articles, reviews and interviews with esportsmen.
The editorial staff is recognized and cooperates as information partners of many esports tournament operators and coverage studios: Paragon Events, FISSURE, RED Expo. The journalists receive official press accreditation at major esports tournaments on Dota 2, such as The International/majors.
I'm not sure how important it is, but materials from the site are also referenced on Liquipedia (the esports equivalent of wikipedia). Examples:
- https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2024
- https://liquipedia.net/dota2/BetBoom_Dacha/Belgrade/2024
- https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Team_Spirit
- https://liquipedia.net/dota2/DKLana
QooApp
[edit]Find video game sources: "QooApp" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Is this website reliable? Its introduction claims it's a "media platform" and "game publisher", but there's seemingly no public information of editorial policy or its authors. Author's name is only credited to nicknames like "Mr. Qoo" and "Hiroto". I can't see how this is reliable, but other input would be welcome.--Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 11:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Plugged In
[edit]Find video game sources: "pluggedin.com" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · LinkTo
Review site run by Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian organization. I'm currently planning to rewrite the reception section for the Deltarune article and stumbled across their Chapter 1 & 2 review. I generally wouldn't mind using this source with attribution, but Focus has a reputation of misinterpreting information in favor of their viewpoint, and makes me concerned of its reliability. Maybe this source could be considered situational? I don't know. — 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) talk/edits 21:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
OneChilledGamer
[edit]Find video game sources: "onechilledgamer.com" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk · LinkSearch · URL... LinkTo
New to Wikipedia, have no idea if this website is legitimate. They seem to have pretty good editorial standards (no broken English or obviously AI-generated content).
Their about page seems legit.. MrFattie (talk) 00:06, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- No staff page or credentials, mostly guides, no editorial policy, 80-90% of the content is the site owner. Essentially a group blog, almost an individual blog. Unreliable. -- ferret (talk) 02:27, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unreliable as per ferret's reasoning. In addition, I cannot see any reliable sites linking to it, or even any sites that don't look like they're incredibly dodgy and/or they're listed with domains/subdomains like websitescrawl or keywordranking.
- As you're new to Wikipedia, it's worth a mention that for all we know this may be a great site and have an incredibly meticulous owner who ensures everything is perfect. But actual reliability and Wikipedia reliability are different things. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 11:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I know this is a good-faith question, and its good that you ask these sorts of questions, but unfortunately, this is exactly the sort of sourcing we try to avoid on Wikipedia. It appears to be nothing more than a self-described "fan" self-publishing their unregulated thoughts onto the internet. It doesn't have any of the aspects of a professional publication that we look for in reliable sources. Sergecross73 msg me 15:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)