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Kim Kitsuragi

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Nominator(s): Shooterwalker (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Kim Kitsuragi is the most well-developed character in Disco Elysium, a critically acclaimed game that is often included among List of video games considered the best. The player is left to imprint their own ideas onto the player-character, while Kim Kitsuragi acts as their tutorial, mentor, conscience, and comedic foil. Critics have noted how Kim Kitsuragi is one of the best video game companions, not just for being an interesting character, but for being an interesting game character. Critics have gushed about these many small yet memorable moments of reactivity, making the player feel that their actions and choices matter. By that interactive standard, I think Kim Kitsuragi might be one of the best examples of a video game character, period.

This article reached WP:GA a few weeks ago. Crisco 1492 reviewed it with comments at Talk:Kim Kitsuragi/GA1, suggesting that this would have an easy time at FAC. I have taken a few additional steps to make sure this is ready for FA. I feel that the prose is of high quality. I also believe the sources are also of high quality, though I'd draw attention to Valnet sources. While I agree that they offer minimal value for the sake of notability, this article is clearly notable, and briefly mentioning them does help illustrate why this character is so celebrated. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Image review and support from Crisco 1492

• Happy to see this here.

Images:

• File:Kim Kitsuragi.png - Has a valid FUR. Could be a bit more detailed and specific (compare File:Claire Redfield.png)
• File:Robert Kurvitz in 2020.jpg - Very minor nitpick, but per MOS:IMAGESYNTAX the caption should be last.

Rereading the article...

• Any story beats worth including in the lede?
• is designed for greater reactivity to the player's choices - Maybe "is designed to react to the player's choices"?
• "his sexuality, who confirms that his is gay with a witty remark." - feels a bit awkward. Perhaps "his sexuality; he confirms that he is gay with a witty remark."
• statistics - as in the character sheet? Is there a good target link for this?
• human-computer interaction should be human–computer interaction per MOS:ENBETWEEN
• The Mary Sue has noted his popularity in making Disco Elysium one of the best games ever written.[42] - perhaps "The Mary Sue has noted his popularity as a factor in making Disco Elysium one of the best games ever written.[42]"?

Overall, excellent piece. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I went through all the fixes. It's possible they might get another revision, depending on what other editors say. A note: I couldn't figure out how to fix the nitpick around File:Robert Kurvitz in 2020.jpg, and often have challenges dealing with images. I'm normally pretty good with everything else, but is this something you can help with? Shooterwalker (talk) 18:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

• Hi Shooter. This was it. As I said, very minor nitpick. Happy to support! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

  I see it now. Thanks for the quick fix and the support! Shooterwalker (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Comments from PMC

Ah, how can I not jump in to review the best character of all time, the unrepentant spoilsport Kim Kitsuragi? Comments within the week, ping if I let it slide. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Source review and citation formats by BP!

• Most of the publishers/websites aren't linked yet
• ref 21, Destructoid wasn't italicized yet
• What makes Phenixx Gaming, Comic Book Resources (this is probably a low quality source as a valnet only in video games that should be removed), Vooks, Sirus Gaming reliable? 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 05:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks for doing the source review. Let me see if I can address these concerns:

  • Comic Book Resources: Valnet is listed as "Situational" at WP:VG/RS. I wouldn't want to set a bad precedent where CBR is given more than its due weight. But I think the declaration of "gaming's best companion" is worth mentioning and preserving.
  • Vooks: This one has an editor-in-chief[1], and has been operating for 25 years.
  • Sirus Gaming: This one has an editor-in-chief and process for reporting issues with their reviews.[2]
  • Phenixx Gaming: This one has an editor-in-chief[3], and talks about transparency and credibility in their "About Us".

  If I had to stick up for one, it would be Phenixx Gaming. There is also some nuance around the use of Valnet, and how to use it situationally. I would normally let these shorter mentions go, but with a lot of reliable news sites being decimated by layoffs, I think it's important to support the less famous sites that still show a commitment to fact-checking and accuracy. Let's keep discussing. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

  I see. I guess I don't have other issues with this article so far. However, you would also make sure to italicize game and film titles in the citation titles per MOS:CONFORMTITLE. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 12:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)