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Your submission at Articles for creation: Café Stella and the Reapers' Butterflies (November 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vrxces was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

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The comment the reviewer left was:

Unfortunately the game doesn't yet appear to be demonstrably notable. Reviews from the kind of sources one may see in WP:VG/S are important to show the game has received significant coverage. A lot of the magazine coverage seems promotional and not tied to evaluating the game itself. I'm not sure if Getchu is a RS although if there is secondary coverage of the awards that may help. Mindful this looks like it enters WP:NONENG and enthusiast/niche territory so may need another look from someone more experienced in the sources available, but looks like it falls short of notability at the moment to me.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing this. This would certainly fall in the enthusiast/niche territory, far closer to the WikiProject Anime and manga area than the video game area (anime project does specifically mention visual novels on their page and it's often many of the same voice actors, artists, etc) but I'm not sure how to direct it to someone experienced in the sources after looking at it a little more?

Would reviews/evaluation be essential to demonstrate notability? If it's specifically ones listed on WP:VG/S it'd likely not be possible as they're almost all English and it's extremely rare for big sites (which most on that list would be) to review adult titles (presumably due to their ad network requirements) and there aren't many big Japanese review outlets in general from what I understand.

As a title from a well known developer and one that was big enough to get on the front cover of two magazines, a manga adaption, and a significant amount of related goods produced, I do imagine the sources would be out there (in Japanese). Kadokawa and Dengeki would presumably be well known names in the area and BugBug and Monthly Comic Alive are both print magazines which are enthusiast/niche but by notable publishers. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 00:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Manga sources

I'm doing some anime/manga editing, and I was wondering if you knew of any good sources to check that would likely be worth checking for manga reviews. I'm new to the area, so I only have limited options at my disposal. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see you outside of the VGP!

Limited options are unfortunately fairly standard for the anime area. While attitudes toward what counts as reliability do seem more relaxed than the incredibly stringent ones of the Video Game Project, there just aren't many sites focusing on anime or manga that are not self-published and have a reputation for accuracy.

There is the list of reliable sources for the Anime Project but it's outdated at points, has shoddy reasoning at others (i.e. reliable because it has paid staff with no other reasoning or primarily because of a single staff member who has long single moved on) and not many people chime in at times when looking at new sources, so it can be difficult to find consensus on new sources.

Anime News Network is probably one of the most common sources used. While it's not listed as a warning on the source, IMO the majority of their staff do seem to trend against anything with fanservice or 'problematic' themes to the point of a bias, so I'd try to balance with other sources if using them if anything along those lines or controversial topics are relevant.

Honey's Anime doesn't have a consensus, but has been brought up a few times with some support. AnimeCorner is in the same position. Both do manga reviews.

Reviews in particular are difficult to find (both in reliable English and Japanese sources), but IMO at least, it's worth remembering that while the Video Game Project source page notes "The most important sources for most video game articles are the reviews of the game itself", this isn't actually Wikipedia policy as far as I'm aware and the Anime Project doesn't have the same note for Anime/Manga. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 11:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]