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Template:Letter-NumberCombination

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unclear purpose. Listed twice in 2011 with "No consensus" both times. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is a navigation aid. The purpose becomes clear if you look at e.g. this old version of B2. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:34, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • delete, since the last TfD this template has been orphaned, and I have not seen any objections since the orphaning back in 2011. Frietjes (talk) 14:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The template is unused (and is unusable per current disambiguation page guidelines in that this template does not aid in selecting between articles on the particular search term in question -- it was meant to help navigate to different terms in arbitrary sequence). older ≠ wiser 15:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:People associated with The Beatles

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:32, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No clear criteria for inclusion. The beatles were super popular, and about 75% of the recording world has crossed paths with them. For instance, what do Peter and Gordon have to do with the Beatles? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:12, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:115th United States Senate Roll Call

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The result of the discussion was moving to userspace. It appears there is weak consensus to cut-and-paste this to create a vote table for the next major Senate vote, but for that it can live in any namespace. For now, I am moving it to User:Classicwiki/115th United States Senate Roll Call, but feel free to move it elsewhere (even back to where it was) if there is more clarity on how it should be used, and in which namespace it should live. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:30, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

unused Frietjes (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is a template off of which things can be customized. Template:115th United States Senate Roll Call helped in building Template:Trump confirmations and Template:Trump confirmations2. You can see it being used in Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court nomination#Confirmation_vote. Although the template isn't invoked in the traditional sense, it is still used on Wikipedia. It saves editors the painstaking process in building their own version of the table when the time comes to display a United States Senate vote on articles. Additionally, it keeps those tables somewhat uniform in style. As 115th United States Congress ends on January 3, 2019, there is still ample time for this template to serve its purpose. I hope that it will be kept, but understand otherwise. (Please ping when you respond)Classicwiki (talk) 16:53, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Classicwiki, I would suggest either (a) moving it to project space if it's meant to be cut-and-paste, (b) turning it into a proper template where you can supply votes for each of the names and substitute it to get the resulting table. Frietjes (talk) 22:14, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Still feel very new to Wikipedia. What project space would you recommend? I can't picture what your saying in the second option. When you invoke a template, doesn't it come as is (barring any changes to size/state)? How would I go about doing your second option? Is there another template where I can see this in action? Classicwiki (talk) 22:46, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@Frietjes: If you have an opportunity to get to my questions above, I appreciate it. I plan on using the template if the US Senate comes to a vote on the Better Care Reconciliation Act. Thanks, Classicwiki (talk) (ping me) 04:45, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Classicwiki, did you see this change? Frietjes (talk) 12:32, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes:, thanks for that. I understand what you mean now. Two concerns: 1.) what happens if a senator changes? Wouldn't all past templates usages be affected, or would you just omit the departed senator in the change? 2.) The articles/templates that use the information from this template color code the vote results, is it possible to conditionally format this template? If this is all too much work, and proves your point as to why the template should be deleted, I totally understand. Best, Classicwiki (talk) (ping me) 20:57, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Classicwiki, the fact that the composition of the senate isn't static is why I said "substitute it" (as in WP:SUBST) to get the resulting table. what people usually do in situations like this is just copy the table from the last time it was used (e.g., from Neil_Gorsuch_Supreme_Court_nomination#Confirmation_vote) and modify it for the new vote. if you want to keep a copy of a blank table somewhere, you could use a subpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Congress. Frietjes (talk) 21:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Lang-en-AU

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:23, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 08:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. This is a utility template, one of a set for varieties of English. If any are available to use they all should be, rather than penalizing certain varieties. Consider the entire set:
{{Lang-en-AU}}
{{Lang-en-CA}}
{{Lang-en-GB}}
{{Lang-en-IE}}
{{Lang-en-NZ}}
{{Lang-en-US}}
{{Lang-en-ZA}}
There are occasional uses of some of these. The previous discussions at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 August 13#Template:Lang-en-AU and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 August 13#Template:Lang-en-US closed as no consensus. StarryGrandma (talk) 16:32, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep (or Merge): These are underutilized, not useless, and as observed above they are a set. If some are already used, all should be retained. In this they are like flag, country, and other "set" templates. As briefly discussed at nom's talk page, I'm not opposed to merging these into their parent template, as parameters – if and only if the work is done to replace their extant uses with calls to that template with the correct parameters.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  21:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Lang-en-NZ

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:23, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and doesn't actually do anything when transcluded, for some reason. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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Template:Language with name2

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The result of the discussion was keep , but feel free to merge it assuming there are no issues with doing so. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:23, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions except as demonstration in a MoS page. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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  • keep or merge with template:Language with name. Frietjes (talk) 13:22, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or merge with {{Language with name}}. This serves a purpose (even if presently under-utilized); it just isn't essential that it be a separate template instead of a parameter-induced variant. As with the above related templates, just make sure extant calls to it are replaced with calls to {{Language with name}} with the needed parameter; see the merge I did of {{Lang-en-US2}} and {{Lang-en-GB2}}'s functionality to {{Lang-en-US}} and {{Lang-en-GB}}, respectively (though I don't know if the needed followup was done after deletion of the *2 variants – I'm just assuming so since TfD admins usually know what they're doing. ;-)  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  05:49, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Current alien contact event

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a joke? If this ever happens, we can use the normal current template. KMF (talk) 17:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:PoliticalFiguresTasks

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused to-do list from 2010 Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:33, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Years in track cycling

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:17, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment there are only two existing pages in this template, which doesn't really provide good navigation (and the links between them are already found in the infobox at the top of each page). Primefac (talk) 14:00, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Years in Robotics

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:16, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are no other "XXXX in robotics" pages, so this template essentially links between one page. Primefac (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Places in Pulau Tekong

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:51, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, mostly redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:53, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Physics/ParticleDistributions

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant misuse of template space. This is something that belongs in an article. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Welcome-citationunderkill

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome template that duplicates the function of other Welcome templates with a link to a essay WP:UNDERKILL. Furthermore, it promotes the essay WP:UNDERKILL. -KAP03(Talk • Contributions • Email) 03:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. That isn't at issue here. Softlavender (talk) 07:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
May I please move your comment and the response up and then remove the "Discussion" subheader, Peter? The subheader makes editing this nomination more complicated than it should be easy. --George Ho (talk) 15:19, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, no problem, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:33, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Sorted in chronological order. "Discussion" subheader removed. --George Ho (talk) 19:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – These discussions are easier to follow when the article or template in question isn't being modified to negate arguments. By the time they reach closure, the first half of the comments no longer apply. Delete on the basis of duplicating more established templates with a confusing title (as of the time of this signing). --GoneIn60 (talk) 10:34, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - originally created to point new users to an new (controversial) essay... yes, it was modified once objections were raised, and this TfD was started... but now it is duplicative of other templates. No need for it. Blueboar (talk) 13:13, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What is it a duplicate of? Also, keep in mind that the WP:OTHERSTUFF argument isn't always the best way to defend against deletion. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:29, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What is Template:Welcome-citation a duplicate of? There is no other welcoming template that encourages citing content. QuackGuru (talk) 16:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, you lost me. I thought you were telling Blueboar that Template:welcome-citation is a duplicate of another template, and therefore should have been nominated for deletion as well according to his/her rationale. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Others are suggesting because there are existing similar templates then any new similar template is not needed. If that is the case how come Template:welcome-citation was not nominated for deletion? QuackGuru (talk) 16:47, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am detecting some confusion... We seem to be conflating two separate templates. Be aware that in its current state, the template that is the focus of this TfD (Template:Welcome-citationunderkill) is a duplicate of the template Template:welcome-citation (the only thing different seems to be the title). We don't need two identical templates. Blueboar (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at QuackGuru's other recently created template : Template:Welcome-citation. Is that what you have in mind? Blueboar (talk) 11:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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