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Template:Vojko Herksel Cup seasons

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The result of the discussion was Redirect to Oct 19. Redirects were reverted, so discussion should continue. Primefac (talk) 03:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Vojko Herksel Cup seasons (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I just redirected all the articles on this template, so it's obsolete Pokerkiller (talk) 22:46, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

delete, navigates nothing. Frietjes (talk) 16:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Trailer sailers and Trailer yachts worldwide

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The result of the discussion was Relist at Oct 28. Primefac (talk) 20:42, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Trailer sailers and Trailer yachts worldwide (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Broad and unclear scope. See also Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 20#Template:Keelboats worldwide. Smartskaft (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is clear use of the template. It has value and can co-exist peacefully with any list or category fulfilling a similar function. Fiddle Faddle 09:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sailing dinghies and skiffs

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The result of the discussion was Keep. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sailing dinghies and skiffs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Broad and unclear scope. See also Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 20#Template:Keelboats worldwide. Smartskaft (talk) 09:22, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is clear use of the template. It has value and can co-exist peacefully with any list or category fulfilling a similar function. Fiddle Faddle 09:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep More clearer to the Olympic version but this is not to say the Olympic template is bad, thus making this template necessary. Donnie Park (talk) 14:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:International dinghies

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The result of the discussion was merge as proposed. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 07:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:International dinghies (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:International keelboats (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Classes of the International Sailing Federation (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:International dinghies and Template:International keelboats with Template:Classes of the International Sailing Federation.
Redundant to Template:Classes of the International Sailing Federation. Smartskaft (talk) 09:17, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge per nom Fiddle Faddle 09:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge, I'm the original author of Template:International dinghies (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages). Etnoy (talk) 11:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Replace with WP Alt Music template and appropriate parameters. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 02:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is just a hard-coded instance of Template:WikiProject Alternative music with the pumpkins-taskforce parameter set to yes (used in 10 pages out of the 114 total in the taskforce. There is no active project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music/The Smashing Pumpkins any longer. However it doesn't pass through all the proper classes so pages like Category talk:A-Class Smashing Pumpkins articles show up as Category:NA-Class Alternative music articles rather than Category:Category-Class Alternative music articles. It would be better to stubst the uses of this template with the actual template rather than have separate versions requiring double the maintenance checking. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete convenience wrapper of {{WikiProject Alternative music}} that saves a little wikicode - that is to say,
```
{{WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins |small=yes |listas=Corgan, Billy |class=c |importance=low }}
```
whilst exactly equivalent to
```
{{WikiProject Alternative music |BANNER_NAME=Template:WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins |small=yes |category=¬ |listas=Corgan, Billy |QUALITY_SCALE=standard |class=c |importance=low |pumpkins-taskforce=yes }}
```
is essentially equivalent to
```
{{WikiProject Alternative music |small=yes |listas=Corgan, Billy |class=c |importance=low |pumpkins-taskforce=yes }}
```
so the actual saving is the single parameter |pumpkins-taskforce=yes As regards unrecognised classes, this is because {{WikiProject Alternative music}} has |QUALITY_SCALE=subpage, which brings {{WikiProject Alternative music/class}} into play, which adds certain classes (file/book/draft/category/disambiguation/template/project) to the default set (fa/a/ga/b/c/start/stub/fl/list/na), it also removes list-class. {{WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins}} doesn't have a corresponding {{WikiProject Smashing Pumpkins/class}} so it sets |QUALITY_SCALE=standard which is a bit of a cop-out. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There's hardly anyone who maintains their related articles anymore beyond myself, let alone enough people to warrant any sort of WikiProject on them... Sergecross73 msg me 12:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:47, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:MMMeadowsSeriesUnderInfoBox

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The result of the discussion was Delete. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 20:37, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:MMMeadowsSeriesUnderInfoBox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

redundant to {{Mountain Meadows massacre}}. we don't need both a sidebar and a navbox in the same article. Frietjes (talk) 17:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Rob^Talk 00:24, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom: one of the two needs to go. According to WP:SIDEBAR, "The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related", so I think it's better that the navbox is kept and the sidebar goes. — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 19:07, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom: the logic is sound. As a sidebar, I used to edit this article frequently. There used to be weeks long edit wars, RfC's and ArbCom bans over changing one word in the lead of this article. This has been listed for weeks and I didn't even notice. Did we all grow up? or just get tired of fighting ;). Dave (talk) 03:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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