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How to go live

Hi, I have worked on the content, uploaded it, put links and then submitted for review. It says 8 weeks to complete the review post which the page might be visible to all. Is there any way to get the page reviewed in a week's time? Here is the URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ketki_R/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketki R (talk • contribs) 09:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Ketki R, Reviews are not done in a specific order. Volunteers are free to choose which articles they want to review. There isn't much we can do to get it reviewed sooner. Interstellarity (talk) 10:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Ketki R: no, you'll just have to wait, like everyone else. Wikipedia has no deadline. While you're waiting, you could improve the chance of Draft:Kogta Financial being accepted, by adding some references to reliable independent published sources. At present all the references (except no. 7, which gives a "Page not found" message) are to the company's own statements and articles based on them, and so not independent and doing nothing to establish that the company is notable. Maproom (talk) 10:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Ketki R, see MOS:OUR. Also, the draft doesn't read like a Wikipedia article, could be deleted as spam. Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 10:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, what should I change to make it read like a Wikipedia article. And what do you mean by 'the references (except no. 7, which gives a "Page not found" message) are to the company's own statements and articles'. If not news articles, what would be the 'independent' published sources?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketki R (talk • contribs)

Courtesy: Article is now Draft:Kogta Financial. David notMD (talk) 11:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

News articles are fine – but they need to be independent of the subject. Articles based on press releases do not help to establish notability. Articles quoting directors, employees, or associates of the company do not help to establish notability. Maproom (talk) 12:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

An error related to Expand template

I would like to know how I can resolve the error Lua error: expandTemplate: template "navbar" does not exist. It is present in this page. Adithyak1997 (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

By creating a navbar template. Ruslik_Zero 20:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Adithyak1997: Note that this is a page in the Khowar language incubator wiki at incubator:Template:Wp/khw/2019ء_کرکٹ_عالمی_کپ_پوائنٹس_ٹیبل. I'll note that there is a incubator:Template:Wp/khw/Navbar, but not incubator:Template:Navbar – that page was deleted because it was not "prefixed". Help appears to be at incubator:Help:FAQ#Prefix. Further questions should be probably be asked somewhere at the Incubator project, which is a separate project from this one (the English Wikipedia). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 06:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Adithyak1997: If you edit the page and make a browser string search (Ctrl+f in many browsers) on "navbar" then it doesn't appear. But the bottom of the edit window shows "Templates used on this page". It shows a red link to the missing template, and it lists several modules. Searching them for "navbar" finds this in incubator:Module:Wp/khw/Sports table: expandTemplate{ title = 'navbar'. I don't know Lua but it seems you can just replace 'navbar' with 'Wp/khw/Navbar'. This will display a table in the original page but also reveal a bunch of other missing templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks a lot. It worked. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:17, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Kindly display Tulu Nadu as it was before presently some one linked that to Kanara page

Dear Sir,

Kindly request you to Tulu Nadu page as it was before

Because presently some one has linked Tulu Nadu page with kanara.

Tulu Nadu and Kanara both are seperate topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NithinkumarDamodara (talk • contribs) 13:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@NithinkumarDamodara: I would like to know what is Tulu Nadu. The reason for asking is that the merging of article was done 2 years back. Pinging PageImp (talk · contribs) as it was he who has made such an edit. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

There has been edit warring betwen PageImp and Deepakpadukone20 over whether or not there should be a separate article on Tulu Nadu, with no discussion (there had previously been entries on the talk page with an IP user simply asserting that it should not be a separate article). Both parties, and NithinkumarDamodara, should have a reasoned discussion, on Wikipedia principles, and use dispute resolution if they cannot agree. Since Tulu Nadu is currently a redirection page, the best place for this discussion is probably Talk:Kanara. --ColinFine (talk) 15:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Terms and Conditions

Hi! I'm new here. Please aware me of all the basic terms and conditions which can cause any serious threat to my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammad Abrar Gulzar (talk • contribs) 16:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Muhammad Abrar Gulzar: - Hello and Welcome to the Teahouse. The Wikimedia terms of use are here but I am not sure what you mean by 'serious threat to my account'? If you mean you would like to know all of the rules that could lead to you being blocked or banned, then I am afraid that there are rather too many to give you a definitive list, but I have posted a message on your talk page with some useful guidelines to read. On top of this, you should avoid: using Wikipedia for promoting yourself or organisations you are associated with, being rude to other editors, edit warring, or creating multiple accounts. I hope that is some help. Overall, use common sense, go carefully, and ask for help before jumping into complex or difficult areas and I am sure you will be fine. Hug^syrup 16:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Article not approved

Hi,

My recent article was not approved for Wikipedia and he error stated:

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

Every source that I used inn reference to this article has been referenced on Wikipedia used in other articles similar to the subject matter. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marie610 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please read WP:Other stuff exists. If other articles fail to meet Wikipedia's requirements, they can be nominated for deletion. If you are referring to Draft:Tangeray Major it is possible that the reviewer based his judgement on what he could see by reading the draft, which was almost nothing because you had commented out most of the content. If you remove the comment symbol it appears that the infobox is still malformatted. You may wish to correct the various errors and check (using "Show preview") that it is correct before making any further changes (such as dealing with the same reference used more than once) and resubmitting. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I don't have 10 edits on wikipedia but would like to submit an article

I live in NYC where I photograph a lot of street art and painted murals in all five boroughs. I wanted to add articles about some of the artists working in the area and in the various mural parks. Is this allowed? I don't have 10 edits on wikipedia so I assume I'd have to submit what I've written and wait and see if it passes muster? If I submit the article in this way would that count as one edit on wikipedia and once Ive added 10 would I then be able to add articles without going thru the submission process? Thanks so much for any help on this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajrsuper8 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC) Ajrsuper8 (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)AJ Russo

@Ajrsuper8: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to improve it. You should look at WP:YFA for guidance on how to create an article, including what subjects are appropriate for articles. Then, there is a wizard there you can use to create a draft article for review. Creating a new article is usually not an easy task for new editors. Consider working to improve existing articles instead, to get some Wikipedia experience. RudolfRed (talk) 17:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ajrsuper8, and welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. I would warn you, though, that creating a new article is one of the harder tasks in Wikipedia, and people who try to do so before they have spent time understanding how Wikipedia works often have a very frustrating time.

You're right that new editors can't create new articles directly; but I would advise anybody wanting to create an article to use the articles for creation process anyway: any editor can create a draft in this way. When you think it is ready you submit it for review.

A couple more cautions: A Wikipedia article starts with reliable published sources. Especially in articles about living people, every single statement should be cited to a source: if you start out by writing from what you know, you're doing it wrong.

Another issue about what you are wanting to do is that Wikipedia is much stricter about copyright than most sites on the web. With rare exceptions, every image used in Wikipedia must be licensed so that anybody may reuse it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it. In general, if you take a photo, you own the copyright, so you have the power to license it in a way that Wikipedia could use it (though you may or may not want to do so). But if it is a photo of an existing artwork, then the original artist holds that copyright, and you do not have the power to license it.

For more general information, please read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much RudolfRed and ColinFine for the great info...thats good to know that if I include any photos they then become eligible for use w attribution by anyone -- that will likely factor into what photos I am willing to include. I will go ahead and write/submit an article as suggested and see if it get accepted but I will also look around to see if there are any wikipedia articles that I know enough about to try to contribute to to get the hang of things...THANK YOU both so much for the great info Ajrsuper8 —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft disappeared on me, can I find it anywhere? I need your help

Hi - I started a draft for Let It Be Art! page and I had replied earlier that there should not be a Speedy deletion of the draft and worked on it for three hours to add 28 references and then it said to publish the changes, then I did, but then it all disappeared on me, and I was left with a blank page and a turn down telling me I had submitted a blank page. Is there anyway to retrieve all the work I did today??? Please help.2600:1005:B162:F998:6079:EC5B:FAD4:B480 (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Let It Be Art! is blank I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

A previous version of your draft was deleted as a copyright violation, and cannot be restored. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Moving image

I was trying to move the map to the right of the municipality names for Oppland. can someone show me how to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redriv (talk • contribs) 17:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Redriv, I think doing so would make it worse in this particular case. Having said that, the way to do so anyway would be to click on "Edit" at the top of the page, and when the edit window loads, to click on the map image, then click "edit", then click "Advanced", and then to finally click "Right". Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 19:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

working on my first wikipedia article and I was wondering about citing sources...

working on my first wikipedia article and I was wondering about citing sources...the article is based on my observations of an street artist currently working in NYC...Im not sure how I'd cite sources for that? They were recently featured in a graffiti publication but I didnt use that article to write my piece -- do I cite them just because theyre really the only other place this artist has been written about?

I'm gonna do a test article and submit to see if it is accepted and Im also coming wikipedia to see if there are any articles that I know enough about to possibly update in an effort to generate the requisite 10 edits need to post articles on without needing to submit for approval. Thanks for any help on determining if I must have sources to site Ajrsuper8 (talk) 20:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Ajrsuper8

Hey Ajrsuper8. Welcome to Wikipedia. You might want to consider taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure, which can help you get acquainted with how a lot of things work here.

Unfortunately, if there has only ever been a single article published about this individual, then they likely don't yet meet Wikipedia's standards for notability, which requires sustained in-depth coverage in reliable published sources, often things like newspapers, magazines and books. We're not allowed to really use our own personal observations, because that's considered original research, and everything that we add to Wikipedia needs to be backed up with a source, so that the content can be verified by readers. That's really why, if there isn't sustained in-depth coverage of a subject, there's not much we can do to write an article, because there's not much we can write about that we can cite a source for. GMG ^talk 20:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply User talk:GreenMeansGo#top -- this artist has participated in many group shows in NYC (all publicized art shows) would that count as proof of in-depth coverage? Ajrsuper8 —Preceding undated comment added 20:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Well Ajrsuper8, that kindof depends on whether there are sources available talking about their participation. That's kindof the #1 rule about pretty much anything on Wikipedia: it all comes down to what the sources say. GMG ^talk 20:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ajrsuper8. Merely being mentioned in an event listing for a group show is not significant coverage. If an art critic reviewed the show and commented on the specific artist's work in detail, that would be useful. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Is it necessary to Index?

I have submitted twice and been rejected twice. Each time I have done what was suggested by the editor. 1) using reliable sources 2) using footnotes. Now this has been accomplished is is necessary to Index and if so how is this done? I do not have the computer program footnote program and have done that manually. Is there a manual way to index if this is required? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malta2019 (talk • contribs)

References are required, if that's what you mean. Check out Referencing for Beginners, which should help. RudolfRed (talk) 00:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Your 'footnotes' are not the way Wikipedia does references. As RudolfRed recommended, learn how to do references. Also, look at articles at List of contemporary artists to get an idea of what belongs in an article and what does not. David notMD (talk) 00:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Malta2019. We use a system of inline citations and the reference numbers are generated automatically by the wiki software. Editors should not be numbering references because future changes to the article will scramble up the numbering. In addition, your article is not written in the style of an encylopedia article. Wikipedia contains biographical encylopedia articles about many artists. Your draft article is written more in the style of an homage or a tribute, filled with praise in Wikipedia's voice. Your draft will need to be completely rewritten in a neutral biographical style, and the references will need to be overhauled before your draft will have any hope of being accepted into the encylopedia. Please read and study Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

How to add a page

I wanted to know How I can add a living person page. What's the criteria of editing of page? What's the criteria of citation etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TopBlogIndia (talk • contribs) 04:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi TopBlogIndia. You might want to try the Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure because many of your questions about editing will be answered while you're completing the adventure. You should also take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything and Wikipedia:Five pillars for some more general information about Wikipedia editing. Finally, you might need to re-assess your choice of user name because Wikipedia doesn't allow usernames which might be interpreted as representing or promoting a particular business or organization (such as website) to be used per Wikipedia:Username policy#Promotional names. You also should understand that most blogs are considered to be user-generated content that isn't considered to be a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes; moreover, adding citations to a blog to any article, but particularly a biography about a living person, like you did here is pretty much never going to be considered acceptable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Editing existing Scots articles

I'm learning the Scots language and I have the aspiration of helping the Scots Wikipedia. But since Scots has no formal orthography, there can be some discourse about how to write. If I went to edit an existing page to add information, should/could I rewrite the existing information in the way I write, or should I leave the existing info alone. I ask because I heard about an edit war regarding orthography and I'd like to avoid causing problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.18.52 (talk) 01:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. You should discuss these issues at the Scots Wikipedia, which is a completely independent project. English Wikipedia has no authority or influence there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Cullen is quite correct, however as a courtesy try these links: Spellin an grammar and Apologetic apostrophe. The latter one is particularly important, orthography has changed since Burn's time and it is border-line offensive to assume Scots is English with some consonants left out. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Georgetown Law School famous alumn Class of 1963. State Constitutional Officer, oldest EVER. Mike Schaefer (J. michael schaefer)

''''J.Michael Schaefer, 1963 L, Born 1938, Member, California State Board of Equalization, 2019-present *

California's 4 members each represent 10,000,000 residents, and have jurisdiction to set assessed values for tax purposes on

$7 trillion in California real estate, supervisor 58 county assessors. Schaefer at 82 is oldest constitutional officer ever to serve California, and previously was city prosecutor and city councilman of his hometown San Diego.

[with a constituency larger than perhaps half our states, Members are in line to succeed Governor Gavin Newsom, and outrank Senators or Assembly members, each of who represent just 500,000(Assembly) or 1,000,000(Senate)]

Can you assist me in becoming part of the Georgetown Law alumni article, will make a donation other than the minimum I have done in past. Thanks.

(redacted) Mike Schaefer — Preceding unsigned comment added by J. michael schaefer (talk • contribs) 22:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@J. michael schaefer: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have redacted your personal contact information for your own protection; it is not wise to publish it in this public forum. In addition, Wikipedia related business should be conducted on Wikipedia if possible. I would note that while the Wikimedia Foundation appreciates any donations you might make, they or their amount have no bearing on Wikipedia content. Otherwise, our status as a neutral encyclopedia would be compromised if anyone could purchase mentions of themselves in articles. We are all volunteer editors and get no money from the Foundation.

You will need to confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:REALNAME, so we can be more confident that you are not an impersonator. Once you do, you can make an edit request on the article talk page of the article you feel your name should be in. While generally one must have an article about themselves first in order to be listed in such an article, I do notice that other members of the California Board of Equalization have articles about them as statewide government officials, so there is no reason that you would not merit one as well. 331dot (talk) 23:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree that J.Michael Schaefer is probably notable as a member of the California State Board of Equalization although many people have advocated abolishing that body. Schaefer, a controversial landlord, won that seat in a surprise 2018 upset after many years running as an unsuccessful perennial candidate. Because of the negative content readily available online, any Wikipedia article should be written carefully and conservatively. This newspaper article is indicative of his notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@J. michael schaefer: Just to add to what Cullen328 posted above, you might want to carefully read Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Law of unintended consequences, Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself. By posting here and trying to get your name added to a Wikipedia article, you might have unintentionally started down a path that you weren't aware even existed. Many people mistakenly believe that a Wikipedia article will be something they have complete control over and thus be able to ensure that only positive things are written about. If someone does decide you satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) and does therefore create an article about you, the content in it will be expected to only reflect what is written about you in reliable sources. This means both positive and negative content can be added about you has long as it's done in a neutral manner, isn't excessively skewed one way or another, and otherwise is in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, particularly Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Even though attempts will be made to maintain a balance between the "good" and "bad", it may be hard to do so if most of what reliable sources are saying about you tends to be a bit negative. Since there currently doesn't exist a Wikipedia article written about you and since generally the best way for you to be added as an entry to a Wikipedia list article like List of Georgetown University alumni (assuming that's where you want your name added) is to have a Wikipedia article written about you, you may want to reconsider things and decide whether any possible downside of a Wikipedia article is worth simply having your name added somewhere to Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Using self-published sources

Hi, I wonder if you can clarify Wikipedia policy about using self-published sources to support statements in biographies of living people (or maybe even non-living, it probably does not matter) in Views/Opinions sections of articles about those people. I am trying to use the actual published materials of a person as proof/support that that is indeed the person's viewpoint. I have found many examples of such use (quotes from books, articles etc) written by the people who said those things in other articles on Wikipedia. I would happily appreciate your answer. The article of concern is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Murray_(author) Thanks,FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: The usual Wikipedia definition of self-published sources are those that anyone can publish with no quality control (e.g. Amazon reviews, blogs, etc.), and those are almost never considered reliable. You can see this guideline here: WP:RS/SPS. However, if I understand you correctly, when you say self-published sources, you mean 'sources written by the subject of the article' and want to know if those can be used as a source that the subject holds a particular view? This is a tricky area, because using a source in this way makes it a primary source, and therefore only to be used with care (see WP:PRIMARY). You also run the risk of original research if you are using someone's writings to make a claim as to what their viewpoint is on a subject. It is much better if an independent, reliable, secondary source has commented on the person's views, and you use that as the source. However, I do believe that where an individual very clearly states their belief or viewpoint in a published article or book, it is not unreasonable to either include a short direct quote from that publication, or add something to the effect of 'S/he said in ABC article that s/he believed XYZ'. Hug^syrup 13:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup: Thanks for your quick response. I would like to take your advice and add it to the article I am trying to edit, but I am afraid I am on the verge of an edit war, and wonder how to avoid that?FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: You're welcome. Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily advising you to add content to the article. I'm just giving my opinion on how to interpret policy - I don't know enough about what exactly you are trying to add, or the context of the article. The best/only way to avoid an edit war is to discuss your change on the talk page of the article in question and get consensus from other editors. This should definitely be your next step as there have already been a couple of bold edits and reversions. Hug^syrup 13:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup: OOPS. I was a little too eager and already made my edits back. But if the editor reverts me again, (which I have a feeling he/she will do) I will start appealing to other editors for their opinions and help, and try and get consensus. Thanks again.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup:I was called out for edit warring. Of course I will not make any more reverts, but I dont understand why the editor I was "warring" with did not get a similar warning, especially since he started, and I went to the Talk page first. How can I get other editors involved without looking like I am a trouble maker, which I am not. I am just trying to learn my way around editing on Wikipedia. Thanks again.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 14:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: - yes, on a purely numerical basis (i.e. who reverted whom first, and how many times) they look equally as guilty of edit warring, so it's a bit cheeky of them to template you. However, the fact remains, you are (both) edit-warring and in danger of breaking WP:3RR. Don't make any further changes or reversions, and continue discussing it on the Talk page. You may find that other editors who watch that page get involved at some point (not everyone is online all the time!) and if not you can try posting at WP:3O or on a relevant wikiproject to get more eyes on the discussion. Several suitable wikiprojects are listed on the talk page. Hug^syrup 14:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Not uncommon for a person who calls edit-warring to get warned for same. But not for you to do. As Hugsyrup advised, best course for you is the Talk page of the article in question, and so on. David notMD (talk) 14:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup and David notMD: Thanks, this has been quite helpful.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 07:39, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

can you help me to resolve an issue of syntax errors ("cite%20note") caused by a VisualEditor bug

I can't seem to resolve this issue despite many modifications. Can anyone help? I can't locate the problem to get rid of this message: Warning:

This page contains syntax errors ("cite%20note") caused by a VisualEditor bug. Do not copy/move content from this page until the errors have been repaired. See

for more information.

Here is my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alain_Gachet

Thanks in advance!

@FK049043: - Welcome to the Teahouse. I've not come across this error message before, but it is simply a template that is added to the page by a bot (in this case it was added here) and then needs manually removing once the issue is fixed. Whether the bot would eventually come back and remove it, I don't know, but it looks to me as if the page is now free of the string that was causing the error, so you can simply remove this line {{Warning VisualEditor bug|date=September 2019}} from the very top of your article.

By the way, you should remove the bolding from the header 'Career as an inventor' and the three sub-heads below that. As you can see, it makes them bold in the table of contents, which is wrong. Good luck with your draft. Hug^syrup 09:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Faulty Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanee_(song)#cite_ref-pdrmusic_1-0

The first link goes to a dodgy website. Not sure how to fix without just removing it all. 194.207.86.26 (talk) 12:17, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi 194.207.86.26 Not sure it's particularly dodgy, just a dead link pointing to a parked domain. I've marked it as dead for now - the next thing to do is to see if you can find an archived version of the page in the internet archive. If you want to do that, that would be great. If not, either I'll do it when I have a chance, or someone else may pick up on it. Hug^syrup 12:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

connected to https://web.archive.org/web/20161107162801/http://www.pubdomain.com/pdrmusic.htm 194.207.86.26 (talk) 09:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Having an article declined at Articles please guide

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakesh77770 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Rakesh77770: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What exactly is your question? If you need help with referencing then it is well worth looking at the help pages and policies linked to in the message you have copy-pasted above. I.e. - a guide to what constitutes a reliable source and referencing for beginners. It is essential that all articles are well referenced.

Out of interest, what is the article that has been declined? Do you have another account that you used to create the draft? Hug^syrup 11:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Presumably the OP is referring to User:Rakesh77770/sandbox? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes indeed. I had actually changed my message above to reflect that but you reverted mine to the previous version when posting yours. Never mind. Hug^syrup 11:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The words in blue in the feedback message on your user talk page are wikilinks to specific guidance on the various aspects. After reading those pages, do you have particular questions? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Changing the title of company website

Hello there,

I work for a young start-up called BibliU.

We have a wikipedia page Bibliotech_(textbooks)

But it is out-of-date and could do with an update.

The most pressing change is that our company is now called 'BibliU' not 'Bibliotech'. I can't seem to change this as I don't have a registered account with the necessary edit history etc.

I wonder if someone in the wikipedia community can help change the title of the page?

Thanks James — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.207.170.234 (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I've changed it. Please be cautious of editing the newly retitled article, though, because you have what is known as a conflict of interest - typically editing with a COI is highly discouraged, so if you must, then either coming here or to the talk page of the article would be a good idea. Minor things like typos don't need approval. Best of luck! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 14:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

There is now 2 identical articles, BibliU and Bibliotech (textbooks). This is not optimal, perhaps an admin should take a look. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Bibliotech (textbooks) redirects to BibliU which is very optimal and entirely appropriate. @James (92.207.170.234) - you count as a paid editor, so if you wish to make any more edits to this article, you should create an account and place the appropriate paid editing disclosure on your userpage - you can find the template and more info here: WP:PAID. Hug^syrup 14:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Now there's a redirect, that's better. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please note, James, that you do not have a Wikipedia page: nobody has one of those. Wikipedia has an article about your company, but is in no sense your article (or page). The content of the article is determined by a consensus of uninvolved editors, and should be based almost entirely on what commentators wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks guys - this is really helpful. One further thing is could one of you possible help me add a company information side box? I can provide the details and our logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.207.170.234 (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikilink me!

Hi! it's me again, yeah, I don't know how to search in the manual of Wikipedia and need aid. I started 2019 Samoa assassination plot, and I cited the penal code of Samoa to indicate the would-be sentence for the conspirators of the plot, and it's prison for life, but the code is too long for someone wanting to verify, how can I add a note instead of a reference, to say something like "Article 40 indicates High Treason is punishable with prison for life, etc". Thanks many much!. --CoryGlee (talk) 13:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi CoryGlee. This goes against Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material. You need a reliable source which specifically says what the sentence in this case could be. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, perfect then!, I'll wait the prosecution request. Thanks for your help. :) --CoryGlee (talk) 14:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:2b2t

Hello. I've been working on this article for a while in my sandbox. I believe it is well-referenced and formatted, and I would like for it to be reviewed. I tried to directly create the article, although it would not allow me too, as the article has been created and deleted several times before, although I believe this was because it was not referenced and formatted correctly. Could I get it reviewed quickly? Melofors (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

As it says on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,474 pending submissions waiting for review." Please remember that there is no deadline. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Where can I view traffic analytics for Wikipedia?

Where can I view traffic analytics for Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonobellodd (talk • contribs) 17:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Sonobellodd. There is a lot of useful information at Wikipedia:Statistics. Although, the answer probably depends on exactly what kind of information you are trying to find. GMG ^talk 19:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Create an Artist page.

Hi ,

I want to create an artist page for myself so that people related to my field can find all my information here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamalscorpian86 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The advice at WP:Autobiography tells you why you shouldn't do it. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Please see the website https://en.everybodywiki.com which you might find more suitable for your purpose.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Kamalscorpian86: I believe you have mistaken Wikipedia for another "social media" site, where people put up pages about themselves. Please see WP:NOTSOCIAL. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Page's

How to delete a page ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Lukhozi. That very much depends on what page you would like deleted and why. GMG ^talk 19:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I am new In Wikipedia & I created a page about a diary but it seemed like it wasn't a good idea so I want to know how to delete it??— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

You can edit the page and just delete what you wrote.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Issue

In one of my recently created articles, I discovered that it was the same as a existing article. If I use speedy deletion what template do I use?BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 1:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Update, I found a template. BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 2:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC) BTW, have you Twinkle? Maccore Henni _{Mii! Pictochat Mii!} 19:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Blogs

I want to start a blog can you tell me how to start a blog + I want it to be a personal blog plz help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Lukhozi. This is a place for new users to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. If you have a question about Wikipedia, then I'm sure we're happy to help any way we can. If you are primarily interested in other things, then I'm afraid you will need to seek advise elsewhere. GMG ^talk 19:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lukhozi and welcome to the Teahouse. Just in case it is not clear from the advice above, Wikipedia cannot be used for a blog. It is an encyclopaedia, and has articles only on subjects that have been written about elsewhere in WP:Reliable sources. You are probably looking for social media. Dbfirs 20:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Curious to Know about this

i have been reading the rules and regulation on wikipedia , and one question arises in my mind is " What if an article is deleted after discussion and later the same article's subject passes all the criteria of having enough coverage on reliable resources to pass an article so can that article which now passes Notablity be recreated ? Jhummu (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jhummu, that's a great question. The simple answer is "yes", such an article can indeed be recreated when circumstances change, and new sources become available. A new actress can fail to meet our notability criteria today, but later there may be multiple sources which write about her in depth after her next major film comes out and she receives an Oscar. I think another such example which was recently deleted was the iPhone 11 which has not yet been launched (due next month, I believe), and whose new page was recently deleted per WP:CRYSTAL. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Update: I was wrong. It was launched a day after this post was made. What was a redlink to iPhone 11 is now a functionsl blue wikilink, as the article has been recreated, based on reliable sources, rather than guesswork. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

What is the essay ...

What is the essay (I think it's an essay) which means "Wikipedia has an article on that too". It is kind of a joke. And it is an acronym. Bus stop (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Bus stop: I think you are looking for Wikipedia:WHAAOE RudolfRed (talk) 20:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks—that's it! Bus stop (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Subject's Notability and Conflict of Interest

My article is intended to correct historical errors found on the Internet. My question here is two-fold: (1) regarding the sufficient notability of the subject of my intended article, who is long deceased [1943] but who had gained notoriety documented over a span of several years in the records of the University of Cincinnati, in the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper, and in at least one published book; and (2)the perception of conflict of interest due to the subject of the article being my own father. Your opinion and/or questions will be welcomed. --MWS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B11E:C72:90CE:1B9C:BF33:2739 (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello 2600:1000:B11E:C72:90CE:1B9C:BF33:2739. I suggest that you should not make the article. It is strongly discouraged to make an article about anything you have a connection with. If he is notable enough, someone will make an article about him. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 21:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

A different answer: WP:COI applies. People who wish to write about a person they have a connection to (family, friend) may have a hard time achieving a neutral point of view, and must understand the need for all content to by based on published articles, not their own knowledge. Unpublished information in the records of the University of Cincinnati would not be considered a reliable source. If you intend to go ahead, you should register an account, create a draft, and submit to Articles for Creation. And, you should declare your conflict-of-interest on your User page. Keep in mind that if there is published information available on the internet, other people may chose to add it to the article. No one 'owns' an article. David notMD (talk) 22:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

colored names

Hi, I would like to know how to make my username colored.
Predated0 (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Predated0: Welcome to Wikipedia. Look at Wikipedia:Signatures for how to customize your signature. RudolfRed (talk) 22:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

HTTP 404

I keep trying to work in my sand Box but as of now I keep getting a HTTP 404 what does that mean?Jack90s15 (talk) 15:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Jack90s15/sandbox works for me. What url are you trying to access? --David Biddulph (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Standard URLJack90s15 (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Seems like its working nowJack90s15 (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: its still happening I will just wait thenJack90s15 (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Another DDOS? It may be that you two are in different geographic locations. Last time it was mostly Europe. GMG ^talk 16:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

DDOS? I don't know what that means @GreenMeansGo: Jack90s15 (talk) 16:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Try reading DDOS. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's an attack where someone uses a large amount of compromised computers to ping the Wikipedia servers a gazillion times, so that it basically shuts them down temporarily. (Denial-of-service attack#Distributed attack) We had one on Friday I believe that shut down access for Europe and the Middle East for a few hours. GMG ^talk 16:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

that's Horrible @GreenMeansGo:Jack90s15 (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: was that why I couldn't get into Wikipedia? That was very annoying, I lost 15 minutes of writing and researching when I couldn't save it. People can sometimes be real annoying, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I've gotten into the compulsive habit of smacking ctrl-a ctrl-c before I hit save most of the time. It's mostly useless but every now and then it will save your hide. GMG ^talk 17:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I take it a step further, copy/pasting the wikitext to a text editor (I like Textpad or the one in MS Visual Studio if I have it open) and save it as a local text file, which protects you if your browser or machine crashes (Firefox recovers pretty nicely sometimes, including the edit box contents; highly recommended). This is especially necessary in AWB, which, if it has any kind of problem while saving, simply scraps all the changes you've made and moved on to the next article in the list. This seems to happen routinely with long editing sessions, maybe with a machine sleep or two along the way, exactly when it does the most harm :( —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:22, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I am new?

I am new and I want to know if there's a general forum? I want to get started with editing articles but I don't know where to begin. ````MissBlanketBurrito — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissBlanketBurrito (talk • contribs) 23:51, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

There are some very helpful links recently posted to your Talk page. They will help you to begin editing articles.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:06, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi MissBlanketBurrito. If you would like to start editing, you can try doing small changes to the entries listed in this page. Doing minor corrections will help you get a feel of how things are done. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Japanese stubs

I read Japanese and I would like to work on Japanese stubs (translating from the corresponding Japanese article).

Is there a list of Japanese stubs or shall I just go out and look for them?

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wait57 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Wait57, you can start here from this category and subsequent list of articles: and please read this page as well for guidelines how to translate and give credit: Wikipedia:Translation, thanks. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 03:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Wait57. Please look into Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan and there is a lot of useful information at the Wikipedia:Community portal as well. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:02, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Wait57: do check out Category:Stub-Class Japan-related articles where you'll see all 36,000 stub articles have be subdivided into priorities. There are just two 'Top' priority stubs, and 160 'Mid' priority ones, which should make your task less far daunting. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 08:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

You can also take a look at these newly translated articles from Japanese and these Japanese history stubs. Good luck! Darwin Naz (talk) 00:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Marines

I am trying to find Marines from Lyndonville,Vt area that either became famous or went to work in government, just need info on them as I have not been able to find anything

Thank you Gayle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.83.95.22 (talk) 04:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The Lyndonville, Vermont article (click on blue to go to) identifies a few notable people, but none of them appear to be Marines. David notMD (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Purpose

What do you need me for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UhZeletics (talk • contribs) 23:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

There are many things you can do! You could go read articles and fix any typos you find - that's a great way to learn your way around Wikipedia. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 02:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC) (@UhZeletics: adding ping - -A lad insane (Channel 2) 02:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC))

@UhZeletics:Also you can edit articles and add reliable information with reliable sources. --PATH SLOPU 05:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

How to Add Map on a Place article?

Hello everyone!

Can anyone help me to teach how to add map on articles? For example i created an article Solara (village). Now i want to add map on this article. Kolta99 (talk) 09:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Kolta99, Hi greetings, welcome to teahouse. You can add maps in articles related to settlement very easily. Since there is a template named {{Infobox settlement}}, you can specify the map to be displayed in the parameter pushpin_map . Here it is India Bihar#India. Also should add the coordinates in it's parameter. Now I did it for you first time. You can see it. This can easily be done in other articles you edit as well.

Please see parameters..
| pushpin_map = India Bihar#India | pushpin_label_position = right | pushpin_map_caption = Location in Bihar, India | coordinates = 24°49′26″N 84°54′51″E / 24.8239°N 84.9141°E / 24.8239; 84.9141
Best wishes. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 10:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

My dear friend PATH SLOPU, Thank you for the valuable information. I understood your all points except the coordinates. How can i find the coordinates for a particular place? Kolta99 (talk) 05:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank You i got it on Google maps.Kolta99 (talk) 06:06, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Can someone submit this article I made?

Can someone submit this article I made? If it's not ready to be submitted, pls send a reason why. Thx!

My draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sony_Cyber-shot_DSC-WX500 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EPICGAMER890 (talk • contribs) 04:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@EPICGAMER890: Welcome to teahouse. Your article has already submitted. Also remember to sign after every post with four tildes--~~~~. When adding links to wikipedia pages (wikilinks), please use [[ ]] in both sides of page name rather than adding URLs. Example--[[Draft:Sony_Cyber-shot_DSC-WX500]]. Thank you.PATH SLOPU 05:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

thx! :D umm, it's not submitted... does it take time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EPICGAMER890 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi EPICGAMER890. The banner at the top of the draft says "Review waiting, please be patient." So, you just have to wait until an AfC reviewer gets to it. You can, however, continue to work on improving the draft while you're waiting for it to be reviewed. One thing I would suggest that you do is to take a look at WP:SEEALSO. A "See also" section is intended for internal links to other existing Wikipedia articles; a "See also" section shouldn't contain embedded external links or WP:REDLINKS per WP:NOTSEEALSO, WP:EL#cite_note-7 and WP:ELLIST. Another thing you might want to look at is WP:REFPUNC since punctuation generally comes before footnote markers in Wikipedia articles. These things are only minor formatting errors I noticed, but if you want some more detailed feedback you can try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Photography. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)