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Technical requests
[edit]Uncontroversial technical requests
[edit]- Belagavi Mahanagara Palike → Belagavi Municipal Corporation (currently a redirect back to Belagavi Mahanagara Palike) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONSISTENT with other municipal articles. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Canadian Forces Station Ladner → CFS Ladner (currently a redirect back to Canadian Forces Station Ladner) (move) – Consistency with other articles on Canadian Forces Bases and Stations that use the "CFB" and "CFS" initials in article title (see Category:Former Canadian Forces bases in Canada and subcategories of Category:Canadian Forces bases in Canada by province or territory) RA0808 talkcontribs 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Canadian Forces Base Portage la Prairie → CFB Portage la Prairie (currently a redirect back to Canadian Forces Base Portage la Prairie) (move) – Consistency with other articles on Canadian Forces Bases and Stations that use the "CFB" and "CFS" initials in article title (see Category:Former Canadian Forces bases in Canada and subcategories of Category:Canadian Forces bases in Canada by province or territory) RA0808 talkcontribs 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Canadian Forces Base Lahr → CFB Lahr (currently a redirect back to Canadian Forces Base Lahr) (move · discuss) – Consistency with other articles on Canadian Forces Bases and Stations that use the "CFB" and "CFS" initials in article title (see Category:Former Canadian Forces bases in Canada and subcategories of Category:Canadian Forces bases in Canada by province or territory) RA0808 talkcontribs 20:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps these should all be moved to their full names per MOS:ACROTITLE. C F A 03:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
[edit]Contested technical requests
[edit]- Niihau → Niʻihau (currently a redirect back to Niihau) (move · discuss) – Official and WP:COMMONNAME place name for the island, per Hawaii government sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Molokai → Molokaʻi (currently a redirect back to Molokai) (move · discuss) – Official and WP:COMMONNAME place name for the island, per Hawaii government sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Lanai → Lānaʻi (currently a redirect back to Lanai) (move · discuss) – Official and WP:COMMONNAME place name for the island, per Hawaii government sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hawaii (island) → Hawaiʻi (island) (currently a redirect back to Hawaii (island)) (move · discuss) – Official and WP:COMMONNAME place name for the island, per Hawaii government sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 14:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oahu → Oʻahu (currently a redirect back to Oahu) (move · discuss) – Official and WP:COMMONNAME place name for the island, per Hawaii government sources. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Kauai → Kauaʻi (currently a redirect back to Kauai) (move · discuss) – The official place name includes the letter (not diacritic) dropped from the title and is in common use in both English and Hawaiian. The article was long ago updated to reflect the actual spelling but the existence of the redirect prevents an article name change. This is already reflected in other geographic articles. This seems to be an artifact of Wikipedians and mainland journalists (which resulted in a large discussion on the Maui Wildfires articles that mainland news organizations cannot be considered WP:RS for the spelling of place names in Hawaiʻi) assuming that the consonant that is represented by the ʻokina is a diacritic, rather than a consonant. See also the infobox for Hawaiian place names, which includes the official names "Hawaiʻi, Kahoʻolawe, Kauaʻi, Lānaʻi, Maui, Molokaʻi, Niʻihau, Oʻahu", all of which should be noncontroversial moves as well Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these are uncontroversial. Common usage takes precedence over official names. older ≠ wiser 15:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Common usage is the correct orthography, actually. There are no WP:RS passing sources that would indicate the actual name is the mispelled version I am aware of, and the directory of official place names from the Hawaiian government is listed in each move request. In several cases the articles very consistently use the correct spelling throughout, with only the article name wrong (and only I rewrote Waikiki in that way, the rest were others), though I'll take this through a discussion process. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Many, perhaps even most reliable sources do not routinely use the okina. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], and so on. older ≠ wiser 19:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Again, whole thing on the Hawaiʻi wikiproject on this going back quite a while, feel free to come over there. Keep in mind several Hawaiian newspapers and magazines use the correct orthography in print but not in online publications as it messes with Google indexing/ranking. That’s why this is uncontroversial among Wikipedians from the area (the actual people who know WP:COMMONNAME), though we’re trying to make and cite this case rather than going “trust us”. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 19:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- A set of nearly identical moves was rejected less than two years ago, so in any case these moves are in no way uncontroversial. older ≠ wiser 19:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Again, whole thing on the Hawaiʻi wikiproject on this going back quite a while, feel free to come over there. Keep in mind several Hawaiian newspapers and magazines use the correct orthography in print but not in online publications as it messes with Google indexing/ranking. That’s why this is uncontroversial among Wikipedians from the area (the actual people who know WP:COMMONNAME), though we’re trying to make and cite this case rather than going “trust us”. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 19:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Many, perhaps even most reliable sources do not routinely use the okina. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], and so on. older ≠ wiser 19:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Common usage is the correct orthography, actually. There are no WP:RS passing sources that would indicate the actual name is the mispelled version I am aware of, and the directory of official place names from the Hawaiian government is listed in each move request. In several cases the articles very consistently use the correct spelling throughout, with only the article name wrong (and only I rewrote Waikiki in that way, the rest were others), though I'll take this through a discussion process. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 15:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Warrenmck Your requested moves have been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" links in your original requests. RachelTensions (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these are uncontroversial. Common usage takes precedence over official names. older ≠ wiser 15:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mouse-gray flycatcher → Mouse-grey flycatcher (currently a redirect back to Mouse-gray flycatcher) (move · discuss) – to conform to Wikipedia standard of using IOC bird names Craigthebirder (talk) 19:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Don't WP:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN apply? Minor spelling variations are not really different names. Note that Gray hawk does not use the IOC's spelling. See prior discussions at Talk:Gray hawk. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Craigthebirder Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- William H. Natcher Parkway → Natcher Parkway (currently a redirect back to William H. Natcher Parkway) (move · discuss) – The shorthand form of the name was and continues to be the common name for the roadway, even after its official decommissioning, per local news reporting. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 10:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @OrdinaryScarlett Quick search shows that sources are using the long name as well. Full RM might be needed to due no clear common name. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @OrdinaryScarlett Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rana (2012 film) → Rana (film) (currently a redirect instead to Rana) (move · discuss) – Both the 1998 and cancelled film lack articles. Kochadaiiyaan is a prequel to the unreleased film Rana as per the article. DareshMohan (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @DareshMohan There seems to be no primary between the two films. @Wbm1058: recently moved an article away from this title. So this is not uncontroversial, full RM is required ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @DareshMohan Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- WNYT (TV) → WNYT (move · discuss) – Primary topic; WP:SMALLDETAILS; no terrestrial radio station with this call sign; WNYT (internet radio) just got AFDed Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mvcg66b3r You yourself just filed the AfD on WNYT (internet radio) three minutes before requesting the move here. I suggest to wait until the AfD is closed before we start moving the pages around. cyberdog958Talk 05:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate reality → Alternative reality (currently a redirect back to Alternate reality) (move · discuss) – MOS:COMMONALITY. The word "alternate" means "every other", not "something other than the current". The latter meaning is only used in US English, while the former is used in all Englishes. Also, "alternative" means the latter meaning in every English, so "alternative" should be used. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 11:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate reality game → Alternative reality game (currently a redirect back to Alternate reality game) (move · discuss) – MOS:COMMONALITY. The word "alternate" means "every other", not "something other than the current". The latter meaning is only used in US English, while the former is used in all Englishes. Also, "alternative" means the latter meaning in every English, so "alternative" should be used. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 11:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate history → Alternative history (currently a redirect back to Alternate history) (move · discuss) – MOS:COMMONALITY. The word "alternate" means "every other", not "something other than the current". The latter meaning for the word is only used in US English, while the former is used in all Englishes. Also, "alternative" means the latter meaning in every English, so "alternative" should be used. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 11:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate ending → Alternative ending (currently a redirect back to Alternate ending) (move · discuss) – MOS:COMMONALITY. The word "alternate" means "every other", not "something other than the current". The latter meaning is only used in US English, while the former is used in all Englishes. Also, "alternative" means the latter meaning in every English, so "alternative" should be used. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 11:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Tstcikhthys1 I am contesting all of these "alternate" to "alternative" moves, as they are not uncontroversial and should go through a full move discussion to determine the COMMONNAME of their subjects. Toadspike [Talk] 13:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- See for instance the third footnote of Alternate history, which reads
Brave New Words: The Oxford Dictionary of Science Fiction (Oxford University Press, 2007) notes the preferred usage is "Alternate History", which was coined in 1954; "Alternative History" was first used in 1977, pp. 4–5.
This directly contradicts the claim that British sources prefer "alternative". Toadspike [Talk] 13:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)- Wikipedia has dealt with this terminology issue in the past. At Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums there have been several flips over the years about what to call an extra album cover used in other countries and the like. Sometimes it was "Alternate cover" but it is currently "Alternative cover" (see Template:Infobox album). The earliest such discussion I can find was way back in 2009 at Template talk:Infobox album/Archive 5#Mistake, and note the dictionary definitions like those brought up by the requester here. So no matter how messy they may be, these requests have some precedents. All will be controversial, regardless. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but MOS:COMMONALITY is clear that if both are valid, then alternative should be chosen. Tstcikhthys1 (talk) 23:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- See for instance the third footnote of Alternate history, which reads
- @Tstcikhthys1 Your requested moves have been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original requests. RachelTensions (talk) 02:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Tstcikhthys1 I am contesting all of these "alternate" to "alternative" moves, as they are not uncontroversial and should go through a full move discussion to determine the COMMONNAME of their subjects. Toadspike [Talk] 13:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mộc Châu town → Mộc Châu (currently a redirect back to Mộc Châu town) (move · discuss) – Pages about Vietnamese towns typically do not include the suffix "town" at the end of their names. Khanh Nguyen (talk) 11:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Khanh Nguyen Same as above, (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Operation Kilshon → Operation Pitchfork (currently a redirect back to Operation Kilshon) (move · discuss) – Move to common name in English, as abundant in sources – https://www.google.com/search?udm=36&q=%22operation+pitchfork%22 – and away from the current wiki-invented bilingual mash-up of a title Iskandar323 (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 Both names seem to be used in books, but news articles and general google searches show results for Kilshon, not Pitchfork. Full RM might be needed for more comments. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- R (L) v Comr of Police of the Metropolis → R (L) v Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis (currently a redirect back to R (L) v Comr of Police of the Metropolis) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary abbreviation. Hairy Dude (talk) 17:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hairy Dude This page has a fairly lengthy move history; the most recent move summary was "since case is post-2000, this is indeed the correct format per OSCOLA". I'm going to contest this and suggest you go through a full move discussion if you still think this move should happen. Toadspike [Talk] 18:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hairy Dude Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Chyah airstrike → 2006 Shiyyah airstrike (currently a redirect back to Chyah airstrike) (move · discuss) – Dating title per WP:NCWWW and defaulting place name spelling to both common usage and the standardised in-wiki style for Arabic transliteration Iskandar323 (talk) 13:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 While I agree with the spelling change based on the sources cited in the article, this page has been moved nine times already, including from "2006 Shiyyah airstrike" to "Shiyyah airstrike" (with the reason "per convention of removing [dab] year") and then to "Chyah airstrike". This means this request is not uncontroversial and must go through a full move discussion. Toadspike [Talk] 18:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, didn't realise. Just checked the talk and saw no discussions. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 While I agree with the spelling change based on the sources cited in the article, this page has been moved nine times already, including from "2006 Shiyyah airstrike" to "Shiyyah airstrike" (with the reason "per convention of removing [dab] year") and then to "Chyah airstrike". This means this request is not uncontroversial and must go through a full move discussion. Toadspike [Talk] 18:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Muwatta Imam Malik → Al-Muwatta (currently a redirect back to Muwatta Imam Malik) (move · discuss) – The work has a shorter, just as precise colloquial and more common form that is actually more likely to be recognised as the name of a work, rather than potentially be confused with the name of an individual. I went to move this myself, but was inhibited for some technical reason. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 Not uncontroversial, previously moved in opposite direction [7]. Toadspike [Talk] 18:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mahe district → Mahé district (currently a redirect back to Mahe district) (move · discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT eponymous to the city Mahé, India, itself named after Mahé River. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 06:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hemant Dabral WP:COMMONNAME seems to be without the accent, all sources in article use it without the acccent. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hemant Dabral Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pasunuri Dayakar → Pasunoori Dayakar (currently a redirect back to Pasunuri Dayakar) (move · discuss) – As per the Lok Sabha website {{{sig}}}Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:COMMONNAME seems to be Pasunuri, sources say so. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pharaoh of the Wizards Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Budapest Aircraft Service → BASe Airlines (move · discuss) – This airline has been officially renamed and no longer uses its former brand on its official website 2001:A61:1209:4001:F480:594C:9BE1:F00A (talk) 10:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- We'd need to see some evidence that the stipulations of WP:NAMECHANGES are met for this one. It isn't just a qwuestion of what the official website does, we need sourcing evidence too. Also, "BASe Airlines" is not terribly recognizable. — Amakuru (talk) 12:56, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @2001:A61:1209:4001:F480:594C:9BE1:F00A Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thiruvananthapuram Corporation → Thiruvananthapuram Municipal Corporation (currently a redirect back to Thiruvananthapuram Corporation) (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONSISTENT with other municipal articles. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm seeing just as many sources listing it as "Thiruvananthapuram Corporation" as "Thiruvananthapuram Municipal Corporation". All other things being equal, the shorter name is preferred. — Amakuru (talk) 13:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- the municipal website lists the name as Thiruvananthapuram Municipal Corporation. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 23:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hemant Dabral Your requested move has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion using the "discuss" link in your original request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm seeing just as many sources listing it as "Thiruvananthapuram Corporation" as "Thiruvananthapuram Municipal Corporation". All other things being equal, the shorter name is preferred. — Amakuru (talk) 13:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)