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February 24

The lede

Does the lede section have its own heading? I'm a bit confused. I have written a four-paraghraph section in an article that is meant to be the lede. Shouold it have a heading like "overview" or just go under the page title? Hobig (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It just goes under the page title. Hermione1980 00:04, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. It looks like you've had a confusing start.. (by the way you know that the reason your work-page got confused for a finished article was that you created it at HOBIG/mine rather than at User:HOBIG/mine - you're not the first person to make this mistake.)

If you're interested in mining specifically have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mining - there are "wikiprojects" for all sorts of subjects, and the talk page is a good place to get specific help - (keep coming to this page for more general help though) Often the project talk pages tend to attract chatterboxes but there are usually some helpful people there - see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mining

You can leave a message there when the article is done, more often than not someone else will tidy up any mistakes you have made, and maybe add more info.

Good luck.!FengRail (talk) 00:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LEAD (or WP:LEDE if you prefer). --Teratornis (talk) 00:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, thanks very much for all your help. Can you tell me if this is the proper way to respond directly to those who have provided help? Hobig (talk) 01:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is good enough. If you want to go into more detail with a particular user, you can respond on their Talk page. --Teratornis (talk) 01:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, when I do that, do I just hit edit on their page, or is there a procedure for opening a new dialogue? Hobig (talk) 01:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You either hit edit and tag a new message to the bottom of the page or use the new section tab to automatically make the new discussion appear at the bottom of the page. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can learn how to communicate with other editors by reading this chapter:

Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Collaborating with Other Editors/Communicating with Your Fellow Editors

Note that everyone who can answer your questions learned most of the answers by reading manuals. The best way to thank them is to read the manuals like they did, so you can pay it forward by helping the next wave of new users. This is how Wikipedia works. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cinema's Exiles

Did Wikipedia delete the article on the PBS documentary "Cinema's Exiles"? I would have SWORN I looked it up in here a few weeks ago, but it's not there now.

I don't see a deletion log entry by that exact title. Are you sure you have the page name right? Also check your Web browser's history. It might go back a few weeks and let you recall the exact page you viewed before. --Teratornis (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

change e mail address

PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN CHANGE MY E MAIL ADDRESS?

If you're referring to the email address used by Wikipedia (if you provided one), simply go the "My Preferences" link at the very top of the page. If you're referring to something outside of Wikipedia, we have no idea. Best, TN X Man 03:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Urantia logo.png

Isn't it PD-textlogo? It has simple geometric symbol and simple text. It seems to be ineligible to be protected by copyright.--Kwj2772 (talk) 02:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to my understanding of Wikipedia policies especially Wikipedia:Logos, would be that while the circles would normally not be considered "Non-free" content... the context (having both the company name and the "circles") would make it a trademark, thus it would be non-free. (Hope that isn't too confusing). NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 00:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to handle non-cooperative IP user

Please let me know how to handle this case.

There is an IP user who refuses to adhere to the Chinese Naming Convention in relations to naming. In particular, the naming convention says when the name of the country is used, use "Republic of China" and when the location is used, use "Taiwan".

The edit dispute relates to Developed country and High income economy, when this IP user keeps changing the name of the country to "Taiwan". I have asked this IP user to use edit summary and the related discussion page, but he or she has refused to. This IP user keeps on giving me warnings when I reverted his or her edit.

Can Wikipedia rules be used to resolve this? Can blocking be used on this IP user in this case? If it is possible, what are the warning templates to use? Thank you.--pyl (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{uw-3rr}}, WP:3RRN.. Although in most cases IP editors like these are not editing in bad faith, they are just not aware of the policies so unless the editor is being totally non-responsive its best to try and discuss things with them on talk pages first. –Capricorn42 (talk) 04:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply.

This IP user is totally non-responsive. I left a message on his talk pages referring to the Chinese Naming Convention. But he still reverted my edit and left warning messages. Please see User_talk:211.179.112.158. As you can see, this user has a series of warning messages from a number of other editors.

Are there any other things I can do other than the 3-rr rule? Does his behaviour constitute vandalism or removal of content? Is it possible to get an administrator to leave a message on his talk page and ask him to use talk / discussion / edit summary? Thank you again.--pyl (talk) 04:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this is not vandalism but a content dispute. You can get quick administrative attention at WP:ANI or WP:3RRN–Capricorn42 (talk) 05:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The naming convention doesn't say editors are forbidden to use the term Taiwan. In fact, it says the term is often more accurate and Republic of China has a note at the top saying: "The Republic of China was commonly known as "China" or "Nationalist China" until the 1970s when it has since been commonly known as "Taiwan"." In light of the higher 'use the most common name' policy, I don't see any violations here except perhaps 3RR but they'd have to be told about its existence too. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is a convention, which means users *should* stick with it. What you are doing is exactly the type of discussion that I would like to be involved with the anonymous IP user, which he has so far refused to do.--pyl (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I will refer this matter to the administrator's notice board and see if they can do something about this.--pyl (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article Merger/Starting a new project

Hello wikipedia! I am a student currently enrolled in a Pharm. D. program wishing to contribute to an article on wikipedia. The article is Antibiotic. I have also noticed that there is an article entitled Antimicrobial. Both of these articles contain similar information. I have seen article merger suggestions attached to wikipedia pages in the past. That might be the best thing to do here. The problem is the classification/definition of these title articles are confused. Currently wikipedia lists antibiotics as a subset of antimicrobials. This is not the case. They are separate entities under a broader classification, Chemotherapeutic Agents. This is a common misconception, and I think it should be correctly distinguished. I have some free time for a few days and would like to do some work on them. So this might also be a good time to ask another question. Can I start a project to revamp these articles, maybe list some goals? Thanks for the help--Mrdeath5493 (talk) 05:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'd need sources to back up the idea the definition isn't correct. I wouldn't support a merger. Both articles are already large enough on their own and merging them would cause unneccesary bloat. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since you are suggesting big changes I suggest you discuss them first on the article talk pages and with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Microbiology. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources won't be a problem. --Mrdeath5493 (talk) 06:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I spent a few hours trying to reword the Antibiotic intro, and now I'm confused. It is truly difficult to arrange all that information in a clear manner. --Mrdeath5493 (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

":::*Try using a userpage subpage. That way you can work on it without any problems. That way you can work on it without leaving half-finished work lying around in articlespace. - 131.211.210.209 (talk) 08:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Release Item to "Public"

Hi there !

I have constructed a page "MrChrisShaw" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keakea123

It is acessable to others thru that link,

 but what else do I need to do please to have it "public"
 so that anyone doing a Search on "Chris Shaw" would have it show up ?

Regards, Frank Keakea123 (talk) 07:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answering on talk page. - 131.211.210.209 (talk) 08:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

I've tried searching all over this and haven't found an answer, so I thought I'd ask. If you see certain users who are repeatedly vandalising pages, such as Kingsofshuffling12 (I've now undone all his vandalism), how can you block them, or at least request that they are blocked so they cannot cause more damage? Thanks. Ste900R (talk) 07:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Just to make it clear, he has been warned twice on his talk page, and the contents of his edits are truely in bad faith. Ste900R (talk) 07:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIV is the place. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chandigarn open arm monument 23.02.09

wikipedia do you know whom we can get intouch with, if we need to get permision to use the Chandigarn Monument jpg. If you have any idea kindly send me the link or phone number, email address and we will greatly appreciate. The organization which i work for has to get the permission directly from the individual copyright holder or company in written form for the right attribution. i will greatly appreciate you help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.9.197.28 (talk) 07:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The question has been answered earlier - here and here. Jay (talk) 08:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no cross, no crown.

WHat does it mean? Does "cross" mean tough things that we have to experience, and "Crown" mean the fruit that we can get. No cross, no crown means that if we don't experience tought time and try hard, we cannot be successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stone86326 (talk • contribs) 08:12, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unknown File Type

When I click on wikipedia links ... instead of opening, IE brings up a save file box .... for file type 'unknown' Even if I save it, the link still does not open.

For example ... search Google for Leslie Bevis .. It returns the Wikipedia link ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Bevis

But if you click on it, all I get is 'file save dialogue'

It's the same if I type ... Leslie Bevis in the search box within Wikipedia.

This happens on many searches, just using this as a 100% repeatable example.

I am running XP with IE 7.0

Sargan99 (talk) 11:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your Wikipedia preferences (Editing section) and check if "Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" and "Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" are switched off. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That is often the solution to another problem which mentions the file index.php. For your type of problem, somebody said it could help to select "No preference" under the Date and time tab at Special:Preferences. Or does it help to manually add a '?' character to the end of the url? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked ... "Use external editor" and "Use external diff" are both off ... interesting that the exmple link I gave above does work when I click it .. but not when returned in Search .. Wiki or Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargan99 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to ask a question concerning the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act on that page, how to?

The information on the page concerning the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act does not include the statues of limitations. I would like to have those that have contributed to include this information. The page tells how they may collect but not how long they have before they may not come after the debt at all and thats what I need to know. How do I ask this? Do I ask on the page or somewhere else in Wikipedia? Robmar6148 (talk) 11:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)robmar6148[reply]

If you would like to include the information in the article, I suggest starting a discussion on the article's talk page. If you're simply looking for the answer to your question, you may want to try the reference desk (possibly the miscellaneous section?), where they answer specific knowledge questions like yours. Best, TN X Man 11:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LANGUAGE

DO YOU HAVE TOPICS IN AFRIKAANS?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.145.30.84 (talk) 13:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Afrikaans Wikipedia is at http://af.wikipedia.org PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing Press Releases not on the web?

How do I reference articles etc that are not available on-line? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishTV (talk • contribs) 13:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. You can use {{cite book}}, {{cite journal}}, or various other methods of citing print releases. However, you may want to check out the reliable sources guide first to see what Wikipedia looks for in a source. TN X Man 13:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

or even Template:Cite press release - there's a list at Wikipedia:Citation templates FengRail (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not online just leave the "URL" part blank - it's optional.FengRail (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

opening a file

nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_(elektronica)

Hi, I looked for "bus", found the one i need ( in dutch) between several other meanings of "bus" but then when i click on that link, it says i need to save a file ....??? So i do, but then since the type is unknown, i cant open that file.... Whats going on? Do i really need to save the page i want to see? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.248.22.6 (talk) 14:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This usually happens when you attempt to edit a page, but have "Use external editor by default" enabled in "My preferences" (link at the top of the page). Uncheck that box and see if that fixes your issue. TN X Man 14:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creating A New Page [HELP!]

hello,

i have been trying to make a page for ages now (about a week) and cant work out how to make a page go live...

i created the entire page in my sandbox, and entered the code to get it reviewed, but was told it need to be moved to a pages for submission section. when i click the button to do so, it doesn't allow me...

also i want to name the page, how do i do so? as at the moment it is still my username.

i would also like to add categories so that people can find it.

i know wikipedia is supposed to be detailed and stuff, but i do find your help pages in trying to make a page somewhat confusing, and there's too many pages showing different things. i think a 'dummies guide to wikipedia' needs to be made!

thanks for reading and look forward to hearing from you.

Stuart

Stuoccupier (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved User:Stuoccupier/Sandbox to Nemhain (band). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, I hear Wikipedia: The Missing Manual is a good place to start. Hermione1980 16:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks very much, just adding a few changes now and will then post it for review. many thanks! Stuoccupier (talk) 17:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, read this:

Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Editing, Creating, and Maintaining Articles/Creating a New Article

--Teratornis (talk) 19:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SVG not showing

I just uploaded File:WandJlogo.svg, and I can't seem to get it to show up correctly. The image thumbnail just shows up as text saying "File:WandJlogo.svg." If you click it, you can see the image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/WandJlogo.svg). Is this just processing or something? Or did I save it incorrectly? --Jwilkinsen (talk) 16:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Display fixed by User:AnonMoos. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dissertations

an evaluation of pricing decesions in small manufacturing enterprises —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.74.239.30 (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. However, it seems that you may want to ask at the reference desk, where they answer specific knowledge questions. This desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. TN X Man 16:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

chemistry

How does metals have low characteristics in order? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuvhacker (talk • contribs) 16:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. However, you may find the answer you need in our articles on Metals, Chemistry, or the Periodic table. If you have further questions, try our Science reference desk, where they deal with specific knowledge questions. TN X Man 16:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox pictures

I recently added a picture to the wiki page of the National Jewish Democratic Council. For some reason, on top of the image it says "image" and on bottom it says "200px." I thought I had followed the directions correctly but I must be making a mistake. Any advice on this issue would be very helpful. Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.231.91 (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done - you don't need the Image: prefix or the square brackets. There is no consistency among ibox templates unfortunately - some require the prefix, some the prefix and brackets, some neither... – ukexpat (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(after two edit conflicts) I have fixed the image for you - take a look here to see how [1]. DuncanHill (talk) 16:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question put on discussion page of List of statues by height never answered

I wonder: who reads the discussion pages of single articles? I put about 2 weeks ago this question:

I have some doubts about the location of the Spring Temple Buddha (no.1 in world's tallest statues). Perhaps there was confusion between Lushan, in the province of Henan, and Lu shan (= Mount Lu in chinese), in the Jiangxi Province. The page http://zhai.fosss.org/goto_zy.asp?id=5421 should tell the exact location, but who knows chinese??.

This matter should be verified by someone, the two locations are quite far from each other too. Greetings, --Gabodon (talk) 17:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can estimate the readership of a talk page by noting the frequency of edits to it. More people will usually look at a page than will edit it, although for talk pages the reader-to-editor ratio may be lower than for articles. If a talk page gets a lot of edits, like this one: Talk:Barack Obama (even before I bother to look, I know that page will be busy, and what do you know, it has 51 archive pages), then the page probably gets even more readers. Page views on Wikipedia follow a Pareto distribution: a few pages get enormous numbers of views, some pages get quite a few views, and most pages get few views. Talk:List of statues by height shows a modest level of editing activity, and a correspondingly modest number of views. Another factor is what fraction of readers might have an interest in a particular topic. Your question is somewhat specialized; given the grab-bag nature of a list article, possibly only a small fraction of people who have interest in some statue on the list would be interested in a particular statue on the list. Given that the talk page in question appears to get only on the order of 30 views per month, that's not a large pool of distinct users. You might have better luck if you track down the editor(s) (perhaps by using WikiBlame) who made the edit(s) you want to change, and ask them on their user talk pages. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who knows Chinese? Google sort of does. --Teratornis (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I direct someone to another page by clicking on an image (versus clicking on text)?

How do I direct someone to another page by clicking on an image (versus clicking on text)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.29.43.1 (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add the code {{click|link=article|image=image|width=15px|height=15px|title=Title.}}, filling in the article, image and title.

The code

{{click|link=Bohemian Rhapsody|image=Symbol support vote.svg|width=15px|height=15px|title=This user helped make Bohemian Rhapsody a Good Article.}}

shows up as

. Queenie ^Talk 18:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The HTML equivalent is the <imagemap> family. —The ed17 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

<imagemap> is not standard HTML, it is a MediaWik extension; see mw:Extension:ImageMap. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect heading on Page

THe page entitled "Ohio Wesleyan Arts Castle" misrepresents our organization, The Delaware County Cultural Arts Center, as officially associated with Ohio Wesleyan University. We are an independent, non-profit arts organization with no ties to OWU. The title of the page should read "The Arts Castle" .

Thank you for your assistance. Kevin L. Greenwood Executive Director Delaware County Cultural Arts Center 190 West Winter Street Delaware, OH 43015 <e-mail and phone # redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtsCastleED (talk • contribs) 19:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will move the article to The Arts Castle. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. – ukexpat (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HELP! Please rename this image

I just posted File:AHP Hierarchy01 w-Priorities.png and used it once. I mistakenly included two spaces in the filename. The spaces mess up a coordinated file name scheme, so I want to remove them. I don't know how to rename an image file, so I need somebody's help. No redirect page is needed, provided I learn about the change so I can fix the single occurrence of the old name. Thanks in advance for your help. Lou Sander (talk) 20:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The easiest thing to do is reupload it with the correct file name then tag the old one for deletion with {{db-author}}. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New double redirect feature

Hey I noticed that double redirects now act like regular redirects ([2]). When was this implemented and could you link me to the relevant discussion? Just curious, thanks a million!--Patton^t/c 21:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the link to the Village Pump thread. Best, TN X Man 21:41, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal against a claim of vandalism

I am not a regular Wikipedia editor, often just adding a link or correcting a spelling. I added an (admittedly unsubstantiated) sentence or two to an article. I was reported for vandalism. However, I immediately logged on to Google, found 3 references that backed my edits (not the best sources, perhaps, but newspapers, nevertheless). I consider that, at the very least, I could be accused of an over-trivial and even perhaps impolite edit - but not of vandalism. I would like to appeal the charge and perhaps have the vandalism reduced to some lesser "crime" - eg a good faith edit. How should I do this? Professor J Lawrence (talk) 21:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you've tried talking to the admin who issued the warning, and he responded very rudely and not in the least constructively. I suggest blanking the warning from your talk page, and ignoring such bitey and unproductive editors in future. DuncanHill (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your prompt reply - and maybe I was silly and maybe hasty and maybe a little ignorant of procedure - but is it possible to get the vandalism charge overturned? As I said, i am not a real editor in any sense of the word, generally just correcting spelling, grammar or adding a Wikipedia link or two (eg on the Cream article, making Ginger Baker a link, or in the Fall of France article making Stuka a link ). I do admit my Beckham insert was not substantiated and I do not really want to reinsert it (or get into trouble) - but I would like my name cleared....Any advice gratefully received... Professor J Lawrence (talk) 22:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless the editor who issued the warning agrees to remove it, then not really, but you are entitled to remove it from your page, and if anyone refers to it again, just point them to the facts and your attempts to correct it, and any reasonable person would understand. DuncanHill (talk) 22:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have refactored my warning from a {{uw-biog3}} to a {{uw-biog1}} and apologised to the user. --Rodhull andemu 22:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Professor Lawrence, you are a Wikipedia editor by the only definition we recognize: you clicked on the "edit" button, made a change, and then clicked on the "Save page" button. You have all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of any Wikipedia editor. There are more than six million of us. While some of us have more experience than others, we are all equally responsible for Wikipedia. A particluar editor made an incorrect assertion of vandalism. That assertion was at best overly harsh. since you ask for your name to be cleared, I, by my authority as a Wikipedia editor and after careful review of your actions, hereby clear you of the charge of vandalism. More realistically, Rodhullandemu responded on you talk page. The only place the "charge" is still recorded is in your talk page history, and that same history records his response. Please do not get discouraged by this incident. we are all volunteers, and we all occasionally make mistakes of the type your accuser made. -Arch dude (talk) 02:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redemption is possible even for admittedly deliberate vandals. Wikipedia has several Foundation issues that go back to the beginning of the project, and have been subject to repeated testing, debate, and analysis over the years. One of the foundation issues is:

Ability of anyone to edit articles without registering

This guiding principle has many consequences, one of which is that many new users make edits they later come to view differently, possibly even with regret. This is one reason why candidates for administratorship should have accumulated a substantial number of edits - because it may take a while for a new user's concept of Wikipedia to "settle down" into the pattern of an established editor. Any experienced Wikipedia editor who evaluates another editor's edit history will expect to see some typical beginner goofs in the earliest edits. Trust me, we've all made some. --Teratornis (talk) 05:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Newpages

I was trying to access this and every time I try clicking on it gives me an database error:

“

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

   (SQL query hidden)

from within function "IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (NewPagesPager)". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'ts_tags' in 'field list' (10.0.6.24)".

”

I don't think that I can fix this (maybe an administrator can?) so... NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bug, which is now fixed. GARDEN 22:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]