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Proposed deletion of Jaswinder Bhalla

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About Golden Bails Award and Bronze Bails Award

Hi Vigyani!

• I think I started both articles. The merge is fine by me. I think the article should now be moved to ICC Umpire Awards or something along those lines, as the "Golden Bails" is one of three awards the ICC makes to umpires.
  
• On a related note, I've tried to find anything about the second-tier "Silver Bails Award" in reliable references, and completely failed.
  

Your thoughts about these matters? Peter aka "World's worst right-arm leg-spinner" aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

yeah.. moving the article is ICC Umpire Awards is better. Infact I was also thinking to do so. But I thought to do some research and find out what other umpiring awards exist, before making such article. So for time being I let the article be kept named as Golden Bails Award. I will try to find out if any umpire has got Silver Award. Vigyani (talk) 10:06, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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I have recently joined wikipedia in Punjabi language and I saw that lot of Wikipedia rules related articles have so far written, which indicates that there not many active editors on that Punjabi Wikipedia . As a new user on pb.wikipedia.org, can I create those articles. Vigyani (talk) 05:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome to create as many articles on the pb.wikipedia as long as they meet the notability guidelines on the pb.wikipedia. Some of the English Wikipedia guidelines will be different than that of the Punjabi one. Mkdw^talk 06:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Indic scripts

Hi, please can you try to avoid adding Indic scripts, such as Punjabi, to articles on English Wikipedia. There is a consensus that they generally cause problems - see WP:INDICSCRIPT. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 12:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

yeah sure.. I was not aware of this. But then Hindi is okay? And I saw regional script used in many articles .--Vigyani (talk) 14:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hindi is not ok, nor Devangari or any other Indic script. There is an exception of sorts for films, if I remember correctly, and there is uncertainty regarding placenames but the safe bet is not to add the stuff. Although the guidance has been around for some time, there are of course many articles that already contained scripts and have not been cleaned up. I don't think anyone is in a particular rush to do so - things just get fixed as and when they are noticed. Hope this helps. - Sitush (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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April 2013

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In your recent edit to Punjab Legislative Assembly, you added links to an article which did not add content or meaning, or repeated the same link several times throughout the article. Please see Wikipedia's guideline on links to avoid overlinking. Thank you. Gsingh (talk) 11:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I just checked and saw that i had made 3 links to same article. I was not aware about over linking --Vigyani (talk) 11:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I figured you probably didn't know. Also, please don't add anyone who wasn't royalty before 1971 to that category. It is for historical use. No person who "succeeded" after 1971 is considered royalty, they are termed pretenders, this would include Amarinder Singh and others "inherited" their predecessors throne after 1971. Gsingh (talk) 11:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

hmmm--Vigyani (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

please read pretender, pretty much explains what I'm trying to say. All Indian monarchies were abolished when they decided to accede to India from 1947-49, except Sikkim which did so in the 70s. And any payments from the government stopped in 71' with the passage of the 26th amendment, which I'm sure you know already. But good job on improving all these articles! Gsingh (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for the info. I understood your point earlier also. I was aware that Capt. Amarinder was listed as pretenders, but I didn't know it was different from Roylity. I have also expanded/created articles related to other punjab politicians. Will you look at those also.--Vigyani (talk) 11:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Ajit Ranade

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Deletion of Harlan Goldstein

Hi Vigyani, learnt that you've deleted my page since it violates G11 rule. Would you mind letting me know which part of the page makes you think it is advertising or promotional? Thanks in advance! Echo0126 (talk) 10:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't bother, I've already replied.Deb (talk) 10:20, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks Deb --Vigyani (talk) 10:25, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Tung Chun

It's very difficult - in this case the article had been substantially changed at the second attempt, but it was still inappropriate. I did block someone recently for recreating the same page repeatedly, but other than that it's difficult to stop them. In many cases, I believe such users don't have much English and don't even understand the warnings. Deb (talk) 10:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Freeing Hong Kong

It's obviously promotional and highly likely to be a COI. I've deleted it again and warned them all about our guidelines on advertising. The only independent reference they gave wasn't actually for this game but for another, similar one with a different name! Deb (talk) 17:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== Speedy deletion normation of Golden Balls

Sorry I taged your video because it was not long enough

Greg Davidson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Davidson (talk • contribs) 18:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Ayrshire Wikipedia

A tag will be provided in Wikipedia to tell you a speedy deletion will be provided — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Davidson (talk • contribs) 18:30, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

can you point out to the articles you are talking about. --Vigyani (talk) 22:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Automatic and Controlled Processes

Hey Vigyani,

Thank you for your response. I am in the process of editing the page in order to make it more user friendly. I am curious about what stood out most about being too technical when you read it?

Adam Ryason (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

can you provided a link to the article in question.--Vigyani (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Automatic and Controlled Processes (ACP) — Preceding unsigned comment added by A ryason (talk • contribs) 20:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

TechArmy

Hi Vigyani,

I thank you for your response. There were multiple reasons and objections behind deletion of TechArmy. This included advertising, promotion, vandalism and also related to repeated creation. Some of them were raised by you. I removed all objections related to advertising, promotion and vandalism - rasied by you.

Also, disruptive editing was not intentional but only an outcome of repeated changes (in lesser time). I would like to re-instate the page with your support and also through administrator. Kindly provide some pointers or let me know how to proceed. This page only contains section that can be classified as corporate information regarding 'TechArmy', a software company that was registered in Gurgaon, India. It has closed operations since 30-March-2012. This information is mostly a search term for many people and hence is very relevant matter for search engines, encyclopedias and wikis. Please clarify and provide the right direction ahead.

Thanks, Sumith.

Sumith Puri

Hi.. Sumith. Thanks for the message. In this case of TechArmy, I believe you were the founder of that company. So as a rule you can not write an article on TechArmy due to obvious conflict of interest. We also do not write or edit articles about the organisations we work in. Also apart from the reasons of advertising or promotion, there should be enough notability for the company or say, company should be famous enough. If the company "TechArmy" is actually famous, I believe someone else will create an article about it. If I search about TechArmy in google, it shows some organization in USA and if I add Gurgaon, then I get result about your company, which in my point of view are not enough notable. However different editor have different view. But all in all, since you were the founder of that company, you can not in any capacity take part in the article about TechArmy (even if someone else creates it). New editors like you are always welcomed and are an important assets for wikipedia. I suggest you give your valuable time to lots of other article of your interest.

Regarding disruptive editing, what you were doing was removing the "speedy deletion tag". Only an admin of wikipedia can not remove that tag. Even once placed, I also can not remove the tag, as I am just an editor like you and not an admin. You can improve the article, but not remove the tag.

I hope I answer your questions and sincerely hope that you keep on contributing to wikipedia. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. --Vigyani (talk) 09:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Theatre catwalk

I made it into a redirect per WP:REDIRECT. Mkdw^talk 00:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

yeah, i noticed latter. probably we made changes at same time, so the deletion tag got placed on redirect page. I tried to undo it, but again you did the same at same time. :) --Vigyani (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Pages in foreign languages

Hi. Thanks for patrolling new pages, but "not English" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion (see WP:CSD#Non-criteria, a list which is worth reading). Sometimes (though not often) a page in another language is worth translating, and there is a page at WP:PNT where possibles can be listed. Often, as with Nixe man just now, it's clear than a speedy criterion like {{db-band}} applies. Google translate will often tell you the language, if you don't know it, and may provide enough of a translation to decide whether a speedy is appropriate. The way to deal with foreign articles is explained at WP:NPP#Dealing with foreign language new pages. Also, there is a useful set of templates, many of them bilingual like {{contrib-fr1}}, listed at WP:PNT/T, which can be used to point the foreign contributor to his home Wikipedia. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks..--Vigyani (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for talking and useful advices to me ..Some of the figures that their red mark are very important figures like Saad Eddin Wahba in Egypt and their CV in Arabic and wiki ..But I did not find walking their interpreter in a wiki in English, but a few of them.Thank you heavily on your beautiful illustration style and advice me --الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)--الفارس الذهبي (talk) 11:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion of Dr.Uday Krishna Myneni

Hi Vigyani,

I've come to the notice that you've been objecting the creation of article called 'Dr.Uday Krishna Myneni'. It shows : This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a real person that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Note that this applies to an article about the person him/herself, not about his/her books, albums, software, etc. See CSD A7.

It would be a great help if you provide me the points that conflict this particular article to be a legal and objection-free wikipedia article. I shall correct them as soon as possible.

Thank you

User talk:Thewritech123 Thewritech123 (talk) 06:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. Thanks for your query. The article you created is about a doctor. So I suggest you read Wikipedia:Notability (doctors)--Vigyani (talk) 06:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Re aboriginal centre for the performing arts

Dear sir / madam,

This a non profit government sponsored educational instrument just like any other on Wikipedia. This is no different to any other arts school in Australia except this is for aboriginal people. If this is deleted then so must every university and arts college. Please justify......

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djagavfonmrd (talk • contribs) 07:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear Djagavfonmrd, yes I understand that ACPA is a not profit organisation. But despite that the way you have written the article, it appears as promotional. Please understand that not all promotion is for profit. You may not want to make any profit, but you are still you are promoting ACPA. You may be doing it with a good intention but please understand that wikipedia articles are to be written in a neutral way. I will suggest you to read WP:NOTPROMOTION. --Vigyani (talk) 07:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear sir. - many thanks for the reply is there any way that someone could edit. What I have written and see what it is they object to? I used the western Australian academy of perfroming arts as a template and there is. Nothing here which makes any more claims than they do. This is to represent the underprivileged.

Out you put it back up if possible and change what you object to???

Kind regards from Australia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djagavfonmrd (talk • contribs) 07:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Re Guarantor Loan

Hi Vigyani,

I replied on the article discussion page for Guarantor loan, but thought I'd also reply here.

The article created today covers a distinct, standalone market in the UK finance industry, Unsecured Guarantor Loans. I actually think it's worth editing the article title to "unsecured guarantor loan", to make that clear.

The Loan guarantee covers the subject of the act of guaranteeing agreements (mortgages, which are secured loans), but not the unsecured guarantor loan industry, which is totally separate, regulated by a different regulatory body (OFT, not FSA)

I strongly feel that the subject is very different to the loan guarantee article.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flingsby (talk • contribs) 10:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi..Flingsboy.. Replying on the Article talk page was sufficient. Anyhow thanks for posting here. I'll read more about this. Anyhow decision to keep/delete will be taken by an admin. --Vigyani (talk) 11:02, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mark Osler

Hello Vigyani, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mark Osler, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Whilst not all professors are notable, deleting the non-notable ones should be done at AFD not by speedy deletion as being a Professor is a credible assertion of importance. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 06:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for informing...--Vigyani (talk) 07:21, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Vigyani, have you thought about requesting the rollback and/or reviewer permissions? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. I have requested for reviewer permissions. And I was thinking to apply for rollback too. I'll be happy to have these permissions but I was not sure, weather I am eligible as of now for these rights. I was using TW since quite some time and that had made rollback easier. --Vigyani (talk) 09:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: TransLattice

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of TransLattice, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: That's not really at g11 levels of spam. Tag it as an advert if you want, but it's not deletably bad. Thank you. GedUK  21:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ged, Thank you for letting me know. I had also bit of difficulty in deciding whether to tag it for G11 or not. But due to its adv like reading and its history (on 16th april it was tagged g11 by me and deleted) I tagged it, with the understanding that an admin must be able to access previous version and can make a better decision. --Vigyani (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

G11 is one of those open to interpretation ones. Some admins might have deleted it, but I don't think most would. No problem on the feedback :) GedUK  11:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Stormfront (website)

I don't think that was a good faith edit you reverted. If you look at the article history you'll see a lot of vandalism from 166.205.68.* yesterday. I think it's an IP-hopping vandal. I'm going to warn it, anyway, and thought I'd let you know.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. Thanks for informing me. :) . I did not check the page history of the article and only checked the content (i reverted)... --Vigyani (talk) 03:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Reverting good-faith edits

Make sure you have selected the "good-faith" option when reverting mistakes. This would not be considered vandalism. Regards. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 17:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for informing. I'll take care.--Vigyani (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

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Thanks Andrew and thanks Strike Eagle. But it is the commendable job of developing STiki by you Andrew, which has made fighting Vandalism easy. I went through your main paper on Stiki yesterday. Very impressed I am. --Vigyani (talk) 11:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I placed the welcome to stiki notice in your talk just 4 days ago and now the 1000! Good work! But be careful about distinguishing between vandalism and good-faith edits as Marcus pointed above.. Cheers, TheStrikeΣagle 12:00, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. --Vigyani (talk) 12:02, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks Beeblebrox. :) --Vigyani (talk) 17:57, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Bodu Bala Sena

The social media external links you removed from the above article has been re-inserted (by someone else). If there is a good reason why they shouldn't be included I shall remove them.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 15:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I had removed them with the impression that social media links are not used in WP. Another reason is these are not verified accounts. They may be possibly created by someone else or by BBS, we do not know.--Vigyani (talk) 15:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:LINKSTOAVOID states that social media links are only allowed if they are an official page of the article's subject. It's difficult to say if those on BBS are official or not. If you want to remove them, go ahead.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 20:07, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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Seanharger Block

Hi. I noticed that on two occasions, you expressed disapproval of the block of the user Seanharger. My main point is that he absolutley had reasons to be blocked, it's not an out-of-the-blue thing. Here are some things to consider:

• 1. He had been gently reminded before about personal attacks, and indeed gently warned.
• 2. Sockpuppettry is always a big no-no, no matter what (even if it is just logging out, but it still counts).
• 3. It wasn't me who even requested a block in the first place. The user Alex2564 actually gave the AIV report of Sean and he ended up blocked. However, I had questions about a report to ANI or AIV, too, due to his behavior.
• 4. Majority of his personal attacks were on talk pages [especially his], so losing his own talk page is another step to prevent him from attacking someone.
• 5. It may have been harsh, but he did some harsh things, and was harsh himself, so having some humor like that is OK, its not a P.A.

I can bring up an ANI discussion/community vote about what others think. I'll get an admin to start something up (like a vote) to see if the community supports or does not support an indef block of him. Cheers! WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 10:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You didn't need to reply me here. You could have just mentioned at admin's talk page. I have only disapproved at one occasion. I can not see your gentle warning (please provide link if you have done). I can only see 'I must let you know that you will not be spending a single second of your life editing Wikipedia ever again'. Does even getting blocked once means that person should not edit WP again? Talk page is blocked only if the abuse continues. But that user has not edited even once after getting blocked. Whatever you call humour is certainly not humour. That way, he could also pass his statements as humour. --Vigyani (talk) 10:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I am not the only person to make this statement (first of all). Second, that is supposed to mean [I'll change it] "chill out and take a while off and if you can't cool off, enjoy real life and possibly try to come back." Does that make more sense? Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 11:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

An attack is an attack. Some of your statements doesn't make much sense to me anyhow.--Vigyani (talk) 13:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

About Sajjan Kumar

Ive added citations. please expand on why you removed the material? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soniadakota (talk • contribs) 15:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. So reply me there on your talk page. For the next time you post message on anyone's talk page. Do it at bottom. The new message at the top can be ignored. --Vigyani (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Kabbabish

Hi I am a Tunisian Kabbabish so im fully aware of my heritage, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.19.171.171 (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. It is good that you are fully aware of your heritage, but on Wikipedia, we always need a published source to verify the information we add. So if you can find such a source, please feel free to add it again.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Legoktm, I did a google search about the Sewersam and couln't find any sources to verify the information. So I nominated it for deletion. Since it is a possible new piece of software and I was not sure if any of the standard templates apply so I used a custom template. Is it only declined because of the nomination criteria or you think it is notable enough. I have been patrolling pages for about more then a month and I have observed that sometime admin while deleting the page add additional criteria or use a related different criteria. Yesterday also this page had appeared under the name SewerSAM, and was nominated (by me) for G11 as the tone was promotional. Today it was not promotional, so I did google search to verify. Also note that the main editor of the article may have a COI. Btw congrats for a successful RfA :). --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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You really did open my eyes with the "12 on one hand" explanation for counting and I am very grateful for that. Working on the same principle, that means someone can count to 60 using two hands: one to get to 12 and then the other to count the 12's five times over. It is genius and, oddly, fits in with the old-style British currency system. Of course, 12-counting gives more divisors (therefore, arguably more "useful") than decimal counting and this still now occasionally is an issue raised in the UK regarding the change of currency made here in the early 1970s. I just wonder if the system you mention originated back in the days of the Raj. Regardless, it is fascinating to an idiot like me and I am already telling everyone I know about it. Thanks very much. - Sitush (talk) 00:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

wow.. thats great, I never wondered about its history. May I should also tell about this discussion to few persons I know . :p --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 00:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Whoops, working on the same principle could get you much higher than 60, but it would involve some more detailed mental arithmetic. You could do the 12 on one hand and then start over, ticking off metacarpal etc on the other ... but you'd have to think a bit more. What would that give? 144 + the "spare" thumb = 156? My brain is frying up! - Sitush (talk) 00:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

a quick thought, is there any remote possibility that 12 hours system has anything to do with it. We have two hands and a day is divided in 2 parts of 12 hours. And your above mentioned 60 indicates toward a possible connection with 60 minutes ?? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 00:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

(more) 12 inchs in a foot, foot/inch is still widely used in india??--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

The old British system (which existed well within my lifetime) is explained here. The Raj was generally not A Good Thing, obviously, but you'll be well-aware that the legacies remain and, surely, at least one of them must be good! Your mention of time also could be relevant. We Brits had a quite bizarre series of measurements (think of cricket pitches and 22 yards being a "chain") but I am really very ignorant about the subject. I am going to raise this with the Great and the Good and see if anyone knows any more, if that is ok with you? You could end up with quite a few responses here and little orange notices popping up like bullets. - Sitush (talk) 01:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

no problem... I will appreciate it. Anyway my talk page is very less used talk page as compared to editor with similar WP experience as me. So few message per day will be good :). Yes legacies remain and we Indians today also appreciate the good things done by British such as Railway and maybe more.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I have asked and we will see what comes of it. Please do also ask around your friends etc: it's not about building an article but rather trying to work something out, so no policies apply. We're not supposed to be a social network but all rules can be bent and, hey, we're not human if we are not social ;) - Sitush (talk) 01:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks :)..--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 00:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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You tagged 5 paragraph essay for speedy deletion using the rationale: "No connection of title with content, and content is not worthy of WP". Please remember that the criteria for speedy deletion are fairly narrowly defined, and this is not one of them. Clearly, this article is not appropriate for Wikipedia, but nomination under the wrong rationale could delay or prevent its deletion (some admins are sticklers for these things). One might argue that the page is a test page, but one must find a valid criterion for speedy, or else choose to PROD the article instead. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi thanks for the message. It does not appear to be test page, so G2 is not applicable and neither other standard sections. But since article is rather a personal essay or more like some random thoughts of some school kid. So I used a custom message. Maybe PROD could be a better option, but I thought it is clearly inappropriate so why to go through longer PROD process. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I actually believe it was an attempt by a school student to post his school assignment ("Your assignment is to write a 5 paragraph essay") on Wikipedia. No matter, it has now been redirected to Five paragraph essay, an article on that standard form of school assignment. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi... I just noticed that the article I nominated for CSD was 5 paragragh essay, possibly an intentional or unintentional missspell of 5 paragraph essay. 5 paragraph essay is a much older REDIRECT page, and 5 paragragh essay has been deleted by Peridon, citing as test page G2 and WP:NOTESSAY. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

'Test page' is a polite way of saying 'non-encyclopaedic crap' at times. (Only for the first article - not usable for subsequent attempts.) Never noticed the spelling - unusual for me, that... Peridon (talk) 19:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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I was so mad to give the wrong barnstar, thanks for pointing it out, it has been fixed. Faizan 13:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I deleted Sinseong-Ri Read Field, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. GedUK  16:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for message. Yeah G6 apply directly.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 00:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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Recently, I noticed that IP 63.92.242.185 is an IP that Jonathan Yip used. However, it has been making constructive edits to airport articles, such as John F. Kennedy International Airport. Does his edits stay as is, or do they need to be reverted and re-added by a non-affiliated user? I'm just wondering, because at WP:BAN, it says all must be reverted, but I don't want to get too involved with the reverts? Thanks, Vigyani. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:22, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Per WP:BAN, a banned user should not edit even from IP. But a very clear proof is need that a given IP belongs to a banned user. Usually many editors have divided opinion on these matters. However the policy is to block such IP's. But I do not think that edits will be reverted if they are constructive. Moreover there is difference between a block and ban. In case of a block, editor can not edit anything (and can be from 24 hours to indefinite). In case of banned, user is restricted from certain topics. For example one may be banned from editing article related to say Christianity, but he will be certainly allowed to edit article about say Islam. In the present case, if you are sure that IP belongs to Yip, then I think best course will be to inform AS, and if he agrees he should file a SPI. In such cases, I just keep a close watch, check all the edits and take action only if there is un-costructive edits. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Nope.The IP has been confirmed as one Jonathan YIP used. JY is site-banned indefinitley. Hope this info helps. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 11:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

after replying you, I read Yip's sock investigation and found that this IP was blocked as Yip's IP for 6 months. Now if the block is lifted from this IP, there must be some reason. Probably it is assumed that after say a 6 month period, the IP may not belong to Yip. I suggest you to ask this question to an admin. But mention that you are asking only out of curiosity and you do not have any intention to pursue this. Even if it is proved that this is Yip again, I strongly advise you not to take any action and just leave it.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to leave it at KoH's talk. Thanks, Vigyani. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 14:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

It is a confirmed sock and per WP:BAN, all edits, except for vandalism reversions and mechanics (spelling & grammar) corrections should be reverted (see the thread). Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi there! do you by chance do any courses for Counter Vandalism training? If so when can I start, if no then sorry if I am bothering you and if there are any users hosting the course could you tell me where to find them. Thanks! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 15:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have not offered any such course so far. But if you are interested I can prepare one for you. But you may have to wait, as I will first read little bit about it.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good! Ill be patient. Thanks! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 15:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

ok.. good... I will ping u when I am ready.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Dru yoga

Hello Vigyani. Working on the Dutch equivalent of Dru yoga, on which I've got my hands full (of sorts), I noted the article over here. And the fact you nominated it for speedy deletion. It wasn't much to begin with and it's getting worse. Just wanted to let you know. Regards, Sander1453 (talk) 11:00, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the message. I had nominated Dru yoga for speedy deletion during my NewPagePetrol (NPP), in which several New Page Patroller, check the freshly created pages for obvious errors. Since this article when created had only one line and that also did not put much light on Dru Yoga, so I nominated it for deletion. I myself does not have any idea about Dru Yoga. I nominate several articles, sometime 20 articles for deletion in a day, and I do not usually keep a track of the article, after decision about speedy deletion is taken. But do not worry, thats how WP works, sometime a new page stays poor for a long period of time, before someone really pay attention and make it good.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the answer. Usually I don't do NewPages, but I do patrol Recent Changes on the Dutch WP. Occasionally I take part in discussions about deletion (normal speed - 14 days discussion time). Nominated for speedy deletion once or twice (speedy=handled by sysop, may take 10 mins to an hour). Btw, the article's not just poor, it's biased. Someone thinks it's a vehicle for discrediting the organisation behind Dru yoga. Sander1453 (talk) 23:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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The biography has been created, click on the link on my talk page or visit my user page for more info about me. Thanks JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 00:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Um... I read the article(s) and I put in the  Done symbol, we can continue whenever you are ready. Cheers JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 20:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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How to nominate an image copied from internet and uploaded on commons as "own work" for deletion. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to see their speedy deletions.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 13:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanx for your message, sorry, it was my first article! I just did the necessary! Thanks a lot! Malice2013 (talk) 13:44, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:54, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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For your help in Sholay. Dwaipayan (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :). I am trying to learn FA/GA processes. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Great, we need more India-related editors in FAC (there are many in GA regularly). FAC process is significantly more stringent than GA, and the most difficult part for us, Indian editors, is writing a good tight prose. Have you proposed any article for GA so far?--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:15, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

No, I have not proposed any GA. I became active in Feb 2013 and mostly have been focusing on creating new articles or expanding notable stubs. I think I will continue to do so as of now. Since your Tripura nominations, I have been studying FA process and I hope I can to help a bit during each nomination.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 22:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely, that will be of great help. Your processing of Sholay in word processor was very helpful. Hyderabad, India is also in FAC currently. Although I have been involved in that article, I have not been really able to go over it lately. If you have time, you may be interested to run it on iWork.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I have scanned it and corrected few spells. Some of the words appears to be from Indian english, with no direct British english substitute.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 18:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Now, Priyanka Chopra is in FAC! Can you do yet another scan?--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Partial editing

U said every truth need not be here. Also, its not other name for Aishwarya like Jiah Khan was the other name for Nafeesa Khan. Just accept the reality even if u find it hard to digest that Abhishek's wife is much much more successful than him. (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

How does it matter to me, which is more famous? In case of Aishwarya, probably I don't need to revert your edit, as the article is already titled with that name i.e. with Bachchan surname. In case of Abhishek, the statement you are adding is unsourced. Kindly read WP:POV.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The page is titled Aishwarya Rai. Dear Vigyani, yourself being a woman, why are you being so supposrtive of such things. Wikipedia is full of sentences without proofs. In fact, it does not require a proof that Aishwarya Rai is known worldwide, unlike Abhishek. Although social websites are not the only proofs, but if you simply try checking them out, Aishwarya has more foreign fan following than Indians, while Abhishek even hardly has such a page! Dear Vigyani, just let the truth be, without thinking whether which truth is required and which not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talk • contribs) 13:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

See the page title is Aishwarya Rai Bachchan. It is bit amusing to me, and I will like to know, how do you know that I am woman. Plus how does it matter whether I am woman or man. We edit WP based upon facts, not our gender. WP needs proof for everything. If there is some statement, which is there without proof, it can be removed. I know that Aishwariya is very famous, much more then Abhishek, no doubt about that. But as I previously mention, the statement you adding is unsourced and not from a neutral point of view. And to show also that Ashwariya is very famous it needs proofs, which are anyhow already present. Also pages on social networking websites are not considered reliable source on WP. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Vigyani doesnt sound a guy to me. It matters if u r a man or woman coz certain men have the male ego n cant stand men appear inferior to their women. Now u wnt me to add sources to the first line of thhis actor's article to prove he is not as famos as his wife?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talk • contribs) 13:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

do you know what Vigyani means? On the matter of ego, please read WP:AGF. In short we assume that everyone edits without any bias as you are assuming. Yes, source will required for your statement but still I think it is a POV statement. First you kindly read about WP:AGF and WP:POV. I am going to sleep now (I live in UTC+9 timezone) and will check your further messages in the morning.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The following sentences have no proof either..Although highly regarded for her acting abilities, Jolie's films to date had often not appealed to a wide audience (angelina jolie) Sonam kapoor -She is known as a fashionista; she has been getting various accolades for her unique sense of style rather than her films. is this sentence not letting her down. The pages that say abhishek lags behind are available on google.Search this on google-Aishwarya more popular than abhishek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aish.ego (talk • contribs) 16:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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I used it to create an article, thanx for ur editMurrallli (talk) 15:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi.. Okay, you could have better done it from 2011 world cup, as poonam was was still related in some way. Otherwise you just need to type the new article name in searchbox and wikipedia will prompt you to create a new page. Plus you can always use your sandbox to create redlinks.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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Did you forget? --PrabashWhat? 00:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I was kind of busy and couldn't get into the mood much. Will try to check it today before night.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Its okay take as much time as you want. --PrabashWhat? 01:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Pappu

Is this ok or is it also a blp violation. It isn't referenced. --regentspark (comment) 13:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

IMO it is a violation. This Pappu thing has been added into article Rahul Gandhi also today by Neo (with references). I was thinking to discuss at WT:IN. It is true that he has been called Pappu by few people in last couple of months, but it is not his nickname, as a general use. If we go by that trend, we may then need to add Feku for Modi--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I am moving it to WT:IN--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. I'll take a look.--regentspark (comment) 14:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Amrinder Gill

Kindly add the latest movies like Tu mera 22 and the role of Inspector harnek singh in the movie that was appreciated according to the format stated.

Thanking You.

ok--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:58, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Tu mera 22 is already there, Inspected Harnek singh is movie or his character name? He was not a inspected in Tu mera 22 mein tera 22, because I have seen the movie.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 15:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Inspector Harnek Singh was a special character played by Amrinder Gill in Tu Mera 22 Main Tera 22. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolf2009 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 16:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey u want is the problem with you...I am a DIT official... I am changing and trying to improve this section.... You are requested not to mess with it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.218.150 (talk) 08:25, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you are adding highly promotional material into the article. In simple words, you are writing the article as if it is your own website. Wikipedia articles are written from a neutral 3rd person point of view. So thats why I am removing your additions. Please read WP:COI, if you want to add any information then please request it at the article talk page.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Word processor scan for Rani Mukerji

Hi! Perhaps you have noticed that Rani Mukerji is in fac. Can you please, once again, run the word processor scanning (that you did for other fac articles earlier)? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:37, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I knew about Rani Mukerji in FAC and had done a scan few days back, but didn't find anything. However I assumed Indian english spellings to be same as British english. Lots of article I find these days are tagged with Indian english, but I couldn't find any extensive word list or dictionary. Do you know any such source.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 16:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the scan. Well, Indian English is an ill-defined entity. Ideally, articles should not be tagged with Indian English template, and use British English consistently. The problem of the blurry definition of Indian English was previously discussed in Indian notice board talk page, and the outcome of such discussion was nothing solid. The safest way is to follow British English.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

stop following me

ARe you junior bachchan's PA?? Evrytym u revert my edits, kindly explain aish.ego (talk) 10:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

1. Your edit had broken the syntax of the article. This is not your mistake. You tried to use visual editor, and I think that inserted some weird code in the article. You can go to history and look at the version you created and will see what I am talking about. So this was the reason I reverted.

2. I will ask you to be civil with other editor. I have given you some useful advice previously also. Accusing other editors like you do me is not good and you maybe blocked for continuing this kind of behavior. I am not reporting your behavior anywhere with the hope that your understand what I am saying.

3. I am not following you, the page you edit is on my watch list. Several regular editor watch hundreds or sometime thousands of pages, which alert us when anyone makes an edit.

4. There is another problem with you. You carry a bias against males. Putting Aishwariya's name behind Abhishek is both silly and childish (although this is not the reason I reverted). Which makes me wonder, if you are some 12-13 year old girl. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:50, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Haha, no I am a 21 year old writer, and my first book is soon going to be published. Moreover vigyani m sure you will change your last name after marriage if u haven't yet. I know now u wil say OMG ! She talks personal!! How dare. I have added reerences this time by the way. C U aish.ego (talk) 10:56, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Did you pay attention to what I mentioned above, point number 2 and 4? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You noticed my reply is complete. That i have references, and that i am 21, and that i know u will find it a personal message :D Thanks vigyani aish.ego (talk) 11:11, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I did not had problem with your edit as such. So no need to talk about references. But other editors may have problem with your latest edits, so someone could revert those changes. What I want is to you to pay attention to WP:NPA and WP:NPOV. Please read these two articles.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:18, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah sure... will sort of read them..Hey tell me what problem can one have wid dez edits now?? aish.ego (talk) 11:23, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, please read those carefully if you are really interested in continuing on Wikipedia. It is for your own good. Also please WP:AGF. I know it may be bit of work for you but please read them. Maybe first just read the introduction of each article. That won't take much time. Now about your edit. You have mentioned that Abhishek is not considered a successful actor and cited a blog. Before you think that blog is on timesofindia website, a blog is blog and rarely used as a source. In the present case it is more like a opinion of the author and there also the very first line of the blog does not support your edit. The author of the blog terms him as successful but underachiever. Now I have paid more attention to your this edit, so I think myself will go ahead and revert it. So if want to change it or want to added some other reference, you do it soon.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh sure, very soon dearo.. dere isn't a shortcoming of suchlikes , will notify u asap, right now got much better works aish.ego (talk) 11:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Allegation of Mumbai Attack

Hi Vigyani, i noticed that you deleted my contribution for citing the allegation of involvement of Indian Government involvement in commanding the attack and killing of innocent people. i provided the source from Indian daily newspaper "Times of India". Can you please advice what was wrong in my contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali aff (talk • contribs) 07:47, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, your edit has two aspects.

1) The TOI references says "a former home ministry officer has alleged that a member of the CBI-SIT team had accused incumbent governments of "orchestrating" the terror attack on Parliament and the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai" So it is A alleging that B had accused. Usually allegations are not to be included in the article until they received a wide spread media coverage. Which is not the case. Plus it is an allegation about allegation. Which makes it more like a fringe theory.

2) You had something about Indian government propaganda which I fail to see in the reference.

Now, if you came here to discuss with me then you should have not gone on article and made that change your self again. This is called edit warring WP:EW, and is not permitted. The best course for you is to open a thread at talk page of the article and present your point of view there. Other concerned editors will also pitch in and a consensus can be formed about what to keep and what no to.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Vigyani - We have now discussed the matter extensively on article's talk page., Has it reached the conclusion, can we add my contribution to the article?--Ali aff (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, no conclusion doesn't mean that it can be added. What we need is more eyes on it. Can you leave its link at WT:IN so that other editors can have look. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 23:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I had not made Sitala Mata

I had not created the page Sitala Mata I had just corrected spelling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatsaikrishnakumar (talk • contribs) 16:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Sitala Mata material copied issue

If that is so firsts we have to in Wikipedia the accutul spell is Shitala as was created by Kanatonian (talk | contribs)‎ in 20 April 2006‎ at 14:28, . . (1,170 bytes) (+1,170)‎ . . (Created Article) (thank) u can see in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shitala&offset=20100123211239&limit=500&action=history and i had saw a wrong spell as Sitala Mata and i had edited it same material in both pages and after that i had edited spell. Even today by opening the link Sitala Mata Shitala is opening in Wikipedia. and as per the comment contents of Sitala Mata, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html. u can see that this page is created in 2011 where as in Wikipedia this is begin existed from 20 April 2006‎. for more information you can check that in http://wschange.com/. And more or less i had completely observed the link http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html i had not saw any where about the copy rights so it is clear that the owner of site had not did any copy rights and he had taken material from Wikipedia and change spelling if your are interested please contact owner of the owner of the http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html and Kanatonian (talk | contribs) do-not involve me in this issue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatsaikrishnakumar (talk • contribs) 04:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Oops!

I didn't see that it was a blocked user.--Priyankafan (talk) 17:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale

" The evidence shows that the Sikhs satisfy these tests. They are more than a religious sect, they are almost a race and almost a nation. As a race, the Sikhs share a common colour, and a common physique based on common ancestors from that part of the Punjab which is centred on Amritsar. They fail to qualify as a separate race because in racial origin prior to the inception of Sikhism they cannot be distinguished from other inhabitants of the Punjab. As a nation the Sikhs defeated the Moghuls, and established a kingdom in the Punjab which they lost as a result of the first and second Sikh wars they fail to qualify as a separate nation or as a separate nationality because their kingdom never achieved a sufficient degree of recognition or permanence. The Sikhs qualify as a group defined by ethnic origins because they consitute a separate and distinct community derived from the racial characteristics I have mentioned." Please see these lines in the last paragraph.

According to the House of Lords, though Sikhs qualify the conditions for Race, Nation and Ehtnicity, yet due to circumstances, they can't be called a race or nation/nationality. And only Ethnicity. I hope this shall settle the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by All accounts taken (talk • contribs) 10:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Delete template changed

In case you are wondering about my edit on Loight, I changed it to G1 because the youtube link is nonsense about a ceiling fan. I suspect the name is not a real person. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:05, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Probably you are right. Thanks for informing. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

But the page got deleted as A7. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Operation Blue Star

Hey Vigyani, fellow editor.

You made some changes to the operation blue star page and removed the following points:

• Jarnail Singh Bhinderanwale killed.
• Akal Takht and various other buildings heavily damaged.
• Military control of the Sikh spiritual and political buildings.
• Sikh reference library burned by Indian army.
• Thousands of Sikh pilgrims taken hostage by Indian army and killed.
• Assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in October.

Do you disagree with any of these points? Jujhar.pannu (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with using the term Khala in info box. You should not have changed it while doing other changes. That term was changed previously after lot of discussions. But others points you mentioned here also need discussion as the result section also has been point of discussion. So it will be unfair to edit without seeking others opinion.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:55, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Which points do you think are not fair, I am awaiting you reply. Jujhar.pannu (talk) 06:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

From the above mentioned points I did not have any specific problem with anyone, but they do represent certain WP:POV. And when some portions of an article are under debate, it is always healthier to first suggest proposed changes at talk page and wait for few days. What, I didn't like was that you made the combatant2 Khalsa from the militants in the same edit. Reply only if you are going to stay civil.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Babb not Babbs

Hi.

Thanks for your non-controversial clean up of the BKWSU topic.

One small point, it should be Lawrence Babb, not Lawrence Babbs.

Babb, Lawrence A. is the author of "Redemptive Encounters. Three Modern Styles in the Hindu Tradition", "Glancing: Visual Interaction in Hinduism", and others. See: [1].

Thank you. --Januarythe18th (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. At first instance it was Babbs, so I assumed Babbs. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

POV, really?

If u think putting a statement under the right section is POV let me tell u u r really irritating me now.. I had written a piece of info in shah rukh's page n a mindful editor put it in the right section and deleted it from the intro..so i had no problem with it.. aish.ego (talk) 09:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

May I know which edit you are talking about? And if you are getting irritating then let me tell you, that I have been actually ignoring your rude behavior. So you better mend your behavior before you come to my talk page again.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

New rules in two months?

Hi AB's PA.. the last time i showed u this edit, u very kindly agreed to it, that the statement n the proof just match. So some new arguement u have now for defending n proving that Abhishek Bachchan is the star now in bollywood, n not srk, aamir, salman, akshay, ajay, saif, hritik, blah blah blahhhhh aish.ego (talk) 08:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

You said it's not civil!! helo, it's just that while I give words to my actions, u silently irritate me by your actions. So i think u didn't explain to me what I asked. Please do. aish.ego (talk) 08:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

As I had mentioned in my previous interaction with you. You need to be civil while talking with other people. Accusing other editors of PA of some subject is personal attack and harassment. I have now issued you a level one warning for personal attack. If you continue like this you may be blocked from editing.

When you added that statement two months ago, I didn't oppose it. Not that I agreed with that. But you must have seen that a very experience editor removed that line of yours citing it as "non-encyclopediac". So I only mention that you should discuss with him before re-adding.

Now I remind you again to be civil. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:49, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Don't explain to me girl, what being civil is, had i been devoting my time to irritate u, i would have been shot by now. Now I don't know what "agreeing" means in your dictionary, but u kindly said "that's better" on that statement i added. What do you mean by non encyclopedic, aish.ego (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Use of capital letters is considered shouting. So please do not shout and read WP:CIVIL. I will discuss about the content only if you agree to be civil. Also do not presume my gender. Find out who removed that line before you re-added and discuss with them or invite them to article talk page. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:15, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

ok then i rewrite it in small letters "u want me to research on around ten articles n show u some similar non encyclopedic statement5s??" how to send a link from one talk page to another?? i want to show u what uncivilised comment means aish.ego (talk) 09:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

If you think that there is non encyclopedic content in any article, then please go ahead and remove it. To send a link to anywhere you have to copy it from the address bar and paste it wherever you want. I noticed that you are being rude to other editors too. Better mend your behavior if you want to stay on wiki.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, I think m much better because ur reaction would have been much worse than my "no reaction" when someone dropped an F-bomb twice while talking to me. U r telling me that i am being rude, i can only laugh at it because here is the link where someone talks to me in a way that could make someone fragile create a havoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Onorem , also see other editors also seem to talk rudely to this editor, using words like 'arsehole,' so i warn u to warn me again on grounds of being rude, coz if i come down to explaining how u r examining my tolerance, its nt going to be very sweet, aish.ego (talk) 05:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Someone else's rude behavior doesn't give you the license to be rude with me or any other editor. If you behave rudely or make personal attacks you will be of course warned, wether you like it or not. Whatever I am doing, I am doing by staying within the Wiki policies. If that appears to be an examination of tolerance for you. I suggest you find some other website to push your POV.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Knock knock, verfiable statements are not POV

Secondly, what's this licence talk all about!! I just showed u ur temperament to small acceptable things, anyway, i leave ur page now, until u try to find something in my edits again, bye aish.ego (talk) 11:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving my page. I feel that it is very difficult for me to have a useful conversation with you. So I hereby ban you from my talk page. If you have problem with any of my edit, then discuss it on that article's talk page. So no further editing on talk page for you. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:15, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

WOW!! thanks a lot.. thats the best thing u cn do in helping me out, b-byeee, now don't waste a min!! please aish.ego (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

banned means no need to answer. Ok. You have already wasted a lot of time of mine.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 11:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Correct it

It was not a wrong reference, among her achievements it was clearly listed. Next time you see any wrong refernce or other shortcoming in a page or edit, please correct it and not simply remove it, Thanks aish.ego (talk) 09:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

If you have a weak memory, I have banned you from my talk page. Do not post here.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:18, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

THat doesnt give u the previlege to enjoy on my talk page,or have a fun time with my edits dont edit there as well. I dnt love editing here. aish.ego (talk) 09:20, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I do not edit your talk page, other then technical warnings. And you can not stop me from editing articles of my interest. Now please do not comment further and leave me. Otherwise I will have to start the process of getting you blocked from editing.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks Vigyani - I will find a reliable source and then repost. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msseth (talk • contribs) 23:13, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

NextSaagar

NextSaagar may well be a sock - I've been doing some digging but haven't yet amassed sufficient data to confirm it. - Sitush (talk) 12:16, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Maybe possible!! but looks difficult to me. I went through user contributions at Amitabh Bachchan. Out of 25+ contribution users. Only two users looked close in behavior, but both of them are not blocked .--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Tamra-Tacoma Capital Partners

The article is pretty much identical, and therefore it's likely the same editor/company has created it. I suggest you take the article to AFD, and take the creator(s) to SPI. GiantSnowman 08:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Rick Paul

I've declined your speedy because the text at the 'source' is actually attributed to Wikipedia. This does happen... Peridon (talk) 11:53, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for informing. I was not aware that it is a previously deleted article.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:26, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

If you think it's by the same (blocked or banned) author, go ahead - or whatever else seems to fit... It didn't look very notable, but I didn't check the references. Peridon (talk) 14:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I had come across this during my routine NPP. After your post, I checked the supposed source and saw that it had Wikitags of August 2013, which lead me to believe that it must have been deleted. Just now I checked Deletion log and noticed that it is twice deleted. The present author's only edit is this article creation, so s/he may very well be the blocked or banned editor. I do not know who was the editor in previous case, but I think you can find out.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:58, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Virtually the same article - only minor changes. Previously created by 12Zemba, a blocked sock possibly of Aviation geek. Forget the 2006 one - just a bit of vandalism and totally irrelevant. I would say there is quacking... Peridon (talk) 15:47, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm contacting NativeForeigner who handled things. Peridon (talk) 15:52, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Dinesh Swamy

This is my first article which I made for dinesh swamy. The references which are noted are from the advertising news afaqs, campaign India which are online news websites. I have gone through the guidelines and re structured the content. Let me know your thoughts so that I can improvise. Thank you.Prernasw (talk) 16:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC) Prernasw (talk) 16:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Kamtapur

Looking at your recent redirect, would you take a look at this older article and my comments at Talk:Kamtapur? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 06:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

My recent redirects are due to User:Surjits12 (now blocked for copyvios). He has a habit of creating multiple duplicate articles with the same or similar content. So I just kept on redirecting his duplicate articles to the first article on that topic. Otherwise I do not have much knowledge of this matter. However I will study this topic and try to help. You can ping on WT:IN--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:09, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Copyvio

Vigyani, what you reverted here and in the next edit was a copyright violation. I've removed it from the history. It's worthwhile googling mass additions of content that appear out of nowhere from new editors; in this case the originals were easily found. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 18:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Tendulkar's 200th test match

Hi! Its the same message at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_Premier_League#Tendulkar.27s_200th_test_match and Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Tendulkar.27s_200th_test_match. But i thought i would point it out to you specially if in case you missed it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

List of CMs

Vigyani, thanks so much for reverting the overzealous editors at the chief ministers article. Sincerely, indopug 122.172.27.199 (talk) 16:33, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

:) --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:46, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Dominic Russo

Thanks for moving this back to the user page, but this was an unusual case where it was actually created by User:Poisonious and User:Dominic Russo is not a registered account. I decided to delete it anyway as too promotional for a user page, and left him a note about WP:NOTWEBHOST. This sort of move is a pain, because the user talk pages go, too, and sometimes get lost: I wonder if it could be arranged that main user pages cannot be moved except by admins, or maybe that if a main user page is moved the talk page does not go with it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:54, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Eskil Dahl

"Eskil by the way smells really bad. Hw is really cool and likes coconuts." That's not an article that duplicates Coconut, it's just vandalism. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Next time I will mark such articles as Vandalism. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:16, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

I added information from a satirical website by mistake in Arvind Kejriwal's page. I sincerely thank you for reverting the edit!!
dhiv talk 11:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:) ... you are not the first one... several newspapers have also sometime taken satire seriously and republished the news :) --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

On a related note, I was improving the article and found myself in the middle of a revert war with another user while adding the name and age of Kejriwal's children . (Last topic in Talk:Arvind Kejriwal ) I noted that in all featured articles of politicians, the name and age of family members were present and hence I proceeded to do the same. While WP:NOTINHERITED prohibits creating biographies of people who are notable only for being related to notable people, I figured this wouldnt be a problem. I'm quite new to editing, so your valuable feedback is much appreciated. Thanks in advance :D
dhiv talk 12:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Kashmir

You seem to me a fanatic Indian where you refer Pakistani administrated Kashmir (Azad Kashmir)as occupied Kashmir. It is simply shame if you are trying to be neutral. Did you forget that 700,000 Indian Army is still occupying Jammu Kashmir. I know it from the horse mouth and have seen it myself. Do you know it is the highest militarized zone in the whole world? To put facts together, India has failed to win hearts and minds of Kashmiris. India is controlling Jammu Kashmir on the point of gun, and it is a known fact.

If you want to remain neutral, you should say Indian controlled Kashmir or Pakistani controlled Kashmir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oppressedkashmiri (talk • contribs) 17:00, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry about how you feel and present status of Kashmir. What I refer to is a present status quo position. Wikipedia states what is cited by reliable sources. You may read WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. As of today there is no country called Kashmir. If it becomes someday, we can change Wikipedia accordingly. No problem with that. But as of now POK is part of Pakistan and IOK is part of India. That is a fact. The part about "India having failed to win hearts and minds of Kashmiris...", has its own places and can be discussed in an appropriate article. But that does not change the fact that people born or living in JK are officially Indian (even if they themselves don't believe so). --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

If you look at the fact you have to agree that Jammu and Kashmir is a disputed part and so its people either live in Indian controlled Kashmir or Pakistani controlled Kashmir. We have to bear in mind that they must be called with that name. By the way, UN others agencies who wants to remain neutral call Jammu and Kashmir as controlled or administrated part of the two countries. For example Al Jazeera news also calls it administrated as they want to be neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oppressedkashmiri (talk • contribs) 17:03, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I dont disagree and debate the fact that Kashmir is disputed. Now about, which name to be used to call. Pakistani/Indian Controlled Kashmir or Administrated Kashmir. This can be debated. I will suggest that this be done on the talk page of the article in question i..e. Afzal Guru, so that other editors can also notice it and participate in the discussion. Personally, I have not much opinion on the name, I will have to go through some reliable sources to fix my opinion. 2nd Nationality, whatever name we use to call those regions, that won't change the nationality of people living their. Another important factor, it will never change the address where they were born. For ex. the people born in India before Independence are referred to as born in British India, not India, ex. Jawaharlal Nehru. I will again clarify, in the present case of Afzal Guru, you are making 3 changes 1) birth place, 2) nationality 3) place where Pakistan president condemned Guru's execution. 1st will never change. 2nd can change, if one choose a different nationality, but in this case it will also not change because Guru has already died. 3rd can be changed upon discussion and analysis of reliable sources. Another minor point, in 3rd you are changing text in WP article and text of citation title. Here, you can not change citation title, that is text used by newspaper, if you want you can use a different news source which uses the text of your preference. I hope I make myself clear. So further discussion you can start on Talk:Afzal Guru--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:42, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

PM

Manmohan singh already resigned and accepted by President of India. Modi got official Designations from President of India and Certificate is also obtained from Election commission of India.So Using Designate instead of Incumbent will be better for Modi .But Dr.Manmohan singh can no longer listed as PM of India as Per Indian Constitution. -RahulTag_talk — Preceding undated comment added 13:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Manmohan is acting PM. Modi got appointment letter, but he can be only called PM after the oath. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Now the Oath Ceremony Happened. Please Add Narendra Modi as Prime Minister of India

Kindly request an edit on the talk page of concerned article. The page is admin locked and hence I can not edit it. Some admin will have to do it.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

No original research has been done or implied. The wikipedia pages of individual cabinet ministers already contains information related to their ethnic background. Please refrain from vandalizing. SanjayMohan (talk) 02:23, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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csd for RacingShalor/sandbox

Tagging this page by a new editor as vandalism was clearly wrong. Don't bite the newbies. I've csd'd it as a test page, which is appropriate.TheLongTone (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

No, I did not mean to bite anyone. I perceived it as vandalism, so tagged it as. I don't think think it was clearly wrong. But, yeah it could possibly be a misplaced page.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:01, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Given the title they were clearly trying to create a sandbox page, please assume good faith.TheLongTone (talk) 10:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

hmm. Could be. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:23, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I come acroos pages like this quite frequently when new page patrolling. Sometimes its possible to simply move them to userspace, sometimes not.TheLongTone (talk) 10:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

hmm... I am not very active with NPP these days, so hardly get such pages (where user misplaces the page). More often, they are actually wanting to make the page. Sometimes, pages just fall into crack and linger on without any attention. see ex. Wikipedia:James X. Zhang (just found now for illustration). --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:50, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Shantanu Agrahari

I had already PRODed the article and was removed by the creating editor. So, I removed your PROD per rules. I had this on my watchlist to do an AfD, but forgot about it. If you want to write up a AfD, I'll come along and vote delete. If you would rather not, then I'll do the AfD. Bgwhite (talk) 07:32, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I noticed your PROD later. But rule was not clear to me about the validity of my PROD (I assumed that same person can not PROD twice). Thanks for clarification. I will start an AfD soon.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

At least you noticed. I keep forgetting to look at the history to see if it had been PRODed before. The only exception on doing a PROD twice is if the previous PROD was a BLPPROD. You can PROD an article if it had been BLPRODed before.

I'm surprised I haven't seen your name before. I'm always in some mess on an Indian related article... either reverting or refereeing. Bgwhite (talk) 08:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

hmm. I usually do not take part much in discussions. Though, I have noticed you several times doing some admin action. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:24, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

You can delete this page, I accept the person is not notable. Okay--Jeeteshvaishya (talk) 02:39, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks so much Vigyani Sir, for your suggestion to me be calm. Thanks for wishing of well being. --Jeeteshvaishya (talk) 02:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Randhawa house

bro i do not something what think about that thr Randhawa house is like royal house bro check on the google search Randhawa House Amloh,Ilovethewikis (talk

Yes it exist. But it is notable enough to have its own wikipedia article. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

do your job

bro go and check the incomplete page ok and wrong like akalgarh yesterday i complete it fix the map and some other problems and more pages

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 02:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I am doing job. Thank you for suggestion. And Thank you for improving other pages. I hope you continue to do that. But on wikipedia we have some minimum standard for articles to be exist on wikipedia. In my opinion, the building Randhwa house is not well known and hence it should not have article on wikipedia. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:22, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

ok so google the biggest search company of the world is wasting his time to show unknown thing right, how much i have know about wikipedia is a about let people know imported things not a only popular, wikipedia also talk about upcoming movies so the not popular people don't know upcoming thing but this a present and people know about that . -- Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 02:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Google shows many things, but wikipedia can not show everything that google shows. The upcoming films are shown on wikipedia because they have become popular already. If you want please read WP:GNG, this will help you understand. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:36, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

bro i wanna to meet you bro . -- Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 02:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

you doing not your job and disturbing me again again and again Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 02:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

ki gal 22 tetoh apda kam ta changi tara kita ni janda

ki gal 22 tetoh apda kam ta changi tara kita ni janda ujeya de kanu tang udona kush hor kar la koii page fix kar koi gal ta pata ghad kiu dukhi karn lgeya Ilovethewikis (talk • — Preceding undated comment added 06:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

You can stop creating useless page and I will stop disturbing you. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:20, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

ok that's deal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 06:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Akashdeep S Batth

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Akashdeep S Batth, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 16:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for message Malik Shabazz. I did not tag the page for speedy deletion. Some other user did, I just merely made sure that wikipedia policies are followed. I personally had no opinion, if or if not it should be tagged. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 23:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that. The script that I use sometimes mistakenly sends a message to the most recent person to tag a page, instead of the original tagger. Sorry to bother you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

i need help

bro some uesr is disturb about page's Ammy Virk and Kulbir Jhinjer help me from this two User:Katrinamoris2014 User:AlanS

why you tag on my work page

why you tag on my work page you have give me five days for complete the work know and Ammy Virk is popular singer he have 1,588,211 fan on facebook User:Ilovethewikis talk

give me just five days

give me just five days for complete my work

Shuddhi (2015 film)

hi Vigyani i make new page about Shuddhi (2015 film) if you like to see that so please check out this Ilovethewikis talk.

Hello Rajvir, I have told you previously also. Add some newspaper links which discuss this movie. Otherwise this article will also be deleted. You have to follow Wikipedia guidelines. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

sorry

sorry about one time i'm say he is my nephew but really is he not nephew i'm just say because i need to but i admit this is not meter what i need to but i promise i'm not doing again like this thing and he is a son of the white lifter Sarbjit Singh the are gold medalists and not a one time in punjab ll'time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 04:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok. The page on the "child honey" will be deleted. It does not matter if he is your nephew or not. Before you do anything else, I will strongly ask you to read WP:GNG. This is guide which explain the minimum qualification for a person or thing to have an article on Wikipedia. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

well ok what you think about Ammy Virk i added link from news paper and i have more link from more news papers how money link i can add in this page — Preceding undated comment added 05:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

You should add as many links as possible. I saw that you copied text from the Kulbir article and changed the link. You should change the other parameter like title of the link also. Means, while you are link is working, its title is wrong. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

kaka randeep singh

kaka randeep singh nabha congress leader (M L A) from amloh right so i can make the page right — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 17:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Shuddhi (2015 film)

bro just see what is this on Shuddhi (2015 film) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 04:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, This is because shooting for the film has not yet started, so according to wikipedia rules. Article can not be made. Don't worry. And one more thing, whenever you write message on anyone's talk page put ~~~~ at the end. This will sign your posts. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:28, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ok sign like Ilovethewikis Ilovethewikis (talk).

yes, but don't use nowiki tags, those I used to give an example. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ok that's good --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovoethewikis}

two people is removeing my work

bro two people is removeing my work on child page Letknow and M Tracy Hunter ,--Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovoethewikis} 05:13, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

this is not me

this is not my account if he have same ip of me so please block this maybe he using my wifi --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovoethewikis}

Hi Rajvir, this is not in my power to block a user. Some admin who have special powers will do that. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:15, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ok but why you having thy side you remove my work pic too and see then tell me what you think about my work on Randeep Singh Nabha --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovoethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 07:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Randeep Singh Nabha is good. You see the changes I made. In that article you can add information of him regarding his birth place, his date of birth, his father's name. Whom he defeated in election etc. For the picture, Once someone revert your edits, we discuss, we do not revert back until discussion is over. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:18, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

yes i added the picture see the now page and if you see any mistake you please fix them --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 07:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

You have downloaded picture from his website and added on wikipedia as your own work. That is "lie", pic will soon be deleted. Tell me Rajvir, why it is so difficult for you to follow Wikipedia rules? At every step you are breaking rules. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

yes i did but i was think own work picture for uploader do i can change it --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 08:13, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ok you just delete it and then i upload as not my own work --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 08:17, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I have told you previously, I am not admin. I can only nominate, I can not delete myself. And those image can not be uploaded, those are copyrighted. Means those picture are someone's private property. We need free photo. If we use those photos, then the original owner can file a court case against you. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

ok i something that if i need use the any picture on wikipedia so i just can upload the picture i have take himself of the myself and other people --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 08:52, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

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MLA

Vigyani bro what? you think about this is link is good Member of the Legislative Assembly (India) MLA check out this --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 02:42, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

ਹਾਂ। --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

thanks --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis}

why you remove that

on the Child page i did firt add a picture about 2 year old Child but any one maybe or two thy remove the picture and add new why but i have no problem about add the picture but why remove added by me the Child picture --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 06:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

and User_talk:M_Tracy_Hunter he is nothing know about wikipedia check his talk --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 06:09, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

M Tracy Hunter

M Tracy Hunter use two id's User_talk:Hkswatts so what about that bro? --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 06:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

How do you know that it is the same person? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

because he have copyright issue on M Tracy Hunter so he also use for upload User:Hkswatts check --Ilovethewikis (talk) 06:35, 26 July 2014 (UTC)picture Author Hkswatts and this picture only use by M Tracy Hunter so what is that mean --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis}

and why you remove the picture added me why not remove by him and i add first, fer kam koii hor kare te koii hor najre naal remove kari jawe haan and you helping him --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 06:39, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

and not a also child looks like that kid picture the about 2 year old ok he upload ok --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 06:45, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

To me it does not look like the same person is handling two accounts. If you wish WP:SPI here you can file complaint. But before that check if the rules described here Wikipedia:Sock puppetry are broken ? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

and one more thing the picture i have added the child age 1 year 8 month not a 2 year so on he is nearly 1-year 6-month so i can add this picture as a 1 year 6 month old --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 07:12, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Don't discuss that picture issue here. Talk:Child is the place to do that. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

well check the Child this is looks good and this is a right age's --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} comment added 07:12, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I am not interested in working on that page. Last time edited there, was just to enforce some wikipedia rules. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Need help

hello, i need your help for replacing the existing picture in article BANDA SINGH BAHADUR,which is of a statue.There are many free pictures are available on net which are absolutely free from any copyright law.I wants to insert a famous painting of BABA BANDA SINGH BAHADUR which is most popular in sikhs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PSAntaal (talk • contribs) 08:03, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, if you have a copyright free photo, please upload it on Commons using [2] --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I follow the procedure of that link and upload the picture. Thanks to you. PSAntaal (talk) 08:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Ammy Virk

bro check out and tell me what is missing hare Ammy Virk Kulbir Jhinjer --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} — Preceding undated comment added 10:57, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Both articles needs citation, references. Atleast 5-6 newspaper references for each article are required. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

ok check out now 6 links Ammy Virk and Akshay Kumar is say born in delhi so that mean Akshay is don't know where he is born --Rajvir Singh Randhawa_talk^{Ilovethewikis} (UTC)

Pangili: Revision history

112.133.214.133 look what he done some where — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovethewikis (talk • contribs) 04:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Image

Hi! Could you add one non-free images of Ashutosh (spiritual leader) with rationale? I looked at various images but couldn't decided on which one to add. You might be able to choose a better one. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:46, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I will add picture in a day or two. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 10:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Problem editor

Hi Vigyani.
What I can see that the editor is new to Wikipedia, and so might not know what the 4th pillar is. (I've always thought that "Five Pillars of Wikipedia" is rather insulting and Euro-centric for obvious reasons, but that's another matter.)
What I think you should do at this point in time is give them a civility warning on their talk-page. I guess they can read Hindi. It might be a good idea to write a (very civil) message, with a translation for those of us (like me) that can't read a word of Hindi (or Punjabi) but can get a gist of what is being written via Google Translate.
Could you possibly email me what they wrote in Punjabi (in Punjabi, not in the romanization), with a translation?
If you think that account is a sock-puppet, could you possibly indicate who you thing the sock-puppeteer is?
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 13:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Gurpartap_singh_kairon for all previous accounts of this user. Basic pattern is to add some of his preferred text to Sethi, I have been asking him and trying to teach about how to add sources. But he just ignore it and come up with a new account every few days. That Punjabi text I will email you shortly. I will give them a civility warning, but only in English as their English is good enough. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 13:44, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ashutosh (spiritual leader)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

22 tu punjabi ni ay

22 tu jo b aa par tu punjabia da khoon ni aa kiu ki punjabi sach nu jhuth te jhuth nu sach ni kehnde hunde main punjabi jatt putt aa ta rab te hee bharosa rakhda haan tu ju marji keh la main rajvir singh ranadhawa haan ta haan aour mere dow veer ammy an kulbir star ne ta hainge ne tu badall ni sakda our te ohna de page hee delete ni kite tu ohna de hardwork te ungli chaki aa or jehre purs karan naal oh saje gaye ja jihna walo sajeh gaye ohna te b

ਰਾਜਵੀਰ ਮੈਂ ਤੈਂਨੂੰ ਇੱਕ ਆਖਰੀ ਬਾਰ ਜਵਾਬ ਦੇ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਚ ਲਿਖ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ। ਸ਼ਾਇਦ ਤੈਨੁੰ ਚੰਗੀ ਤਰਾਂ ਸਮਝ ਆ ਜਾਵੇ। ਤੂੰ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਦੇ ਨਿਯਮਾਂ ਦੀ ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਉਲੰਘਣਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ। ਮੇਰੇ ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਆਖਣ ਦੇ ਵਾਬਜੂਦ ਵੀ ਤੂੰ ਨਿਯਮਾਂ ਦੀ ਉਲੰਘਣਾਂ ਜਾਰੀ ਰੱਖੀ। ਤੂੰ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਫੇਸਬੁੱਕ ਦੀ ਤਰਾਂ ਇਸਤੇਮਾਲ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕੀਤੀ, ਜਿਥੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਪਨੀ, ਅਤੇ ਆਪਨੇ ਪਰਿਵਾਰ ਦੀ ਮਸ਼ੂਹਰੀ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕੀਤੀ। ਤੂੰ ਇਸ ਲਈ ਝੂਠ ਦਾ ਸਹਾਰਾ ਲੈਤਾ। ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਇੱਕ ਗਿਆਨਕੋਸ਼ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਸਭ ਸੰਪਾਦਕ ਮਿਹਨਤ ਨਾਲ ਤਿਆਰ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰਦੇ ਨੇ, ਉਹ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਆਪਨੇ ਪਰਿਵਾਰਕ ਮੈਬਰਾਂ ਦੀਆ ਤਸਵੀਰਾ ਨਾਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਭਰਦੇ। ਮੈਂ ਵੀ ਇੱਕ ਦਿਨ ਨਵਾਂ ਸੰਪਾਦਕ ਸੀ, ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਤੇਰੇ ਤਰਾਂ ਡਰਾਮੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਿੱਤੇ। ਤੂੰ ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਨਵੇਂ ਖਾਤੇ ਬਣਾ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹੈ, ਤੇ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਜਾ ਚੁੱਕਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਇਸਦੀ ਇਜਾਜ਼ਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ। ਜਦ ਤੱਕ ਤੂੰ ਆਪਨੇ ਪੁਰਾਣੀਆ ਗਲਤੀਆਂ ਤੋ ਤੌਬਾ ਨਹੀ ਕਰਦਾ ਅਤੇ ਆਪਨਾ ਮੌਜੂਦਾ ਰੁੱਖ ਨਹੀਂ ਛੱਡਦਾ, ਤਦ ਤੱਕ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਸੰਪਾਦਨ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਨਹੀਂ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੀ। ਇਸਦਾ ਮੇਰੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਹੋਣ ਜਾ ਨਾ ਹੋਣ ਨਾਲ ਕੋਈ ਸੰਬੰਧ ਨਹੀ ਹੈ।

English Translation: Rajvir, I am replying you one last time and I am writing in Punjabi. I hope you understand. You have time and again violated Wikipedia policies and rules. Irrespective of me warning you, explain you, you kept on rule violation. You have treated Wikpedia as Facebook, which you tried to use to promote yourself and your family. You even lied. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and all editors prepare it with handwork. They don't fill it with their family pictures. I was once a new editor, but I did not behaved like you. You are repeatedly creating new account and you are being repeatedly told that this is not allowed. Until you say sorry for all the rule violations and change your editing style, you won't be unblocked. It has nothing to do with me being or not being a Punjabi. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

par 22 yaar kulbir mera friend aa es gal naal us de singer na hoon wali gal samaj ni aii kiu ki oh boht hee mehnti or ek changa singer hai 22 chal main ni bnonda page tu hee bana de kiu ki main banna b ni sakda na hee main bnonna chohna par 22 ohna de kam te koii mere karke anch ni ohni chahi di baki yaar tu aap seyanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.152.131 (talk) 14:29, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

ptc

or 22 ptc waleya ne ohna nu sinmanat kita ta oh kuch hoon ge hee na

ji, mainu hor vi kayi kamm ne. Jis din time lagga, mein bana devanga. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

ok 22 and thanks rab kare kall nu tusi b star banu or thoda page ta bann hee janna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.152.131 (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Gujarat Swarajya Sangh

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Gujarat Swarajya Sangh to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok, No problem. The only reference I could find was referring back to Wikipedia. So I thought A11. But PROD is also fine. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Maratha Rashtra Parishad

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Maratha Rashtra Parishad, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not made up, but pr0obably not notable. I will take this to AfD. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:25, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Oriya Mahasabha

Hello Vigyani. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Oriya Mahasabha to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:43, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 06:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

AKJ

I wonder how my article has copyright issues. Sarabveer (talk) 23:38, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

This means that you are copying the text from other places on internet. You were told this 2 days back also, but you choose to again do this. Also irrespective of copyright, I had told you that I have objection to your version, so until our discussions are over, you can not edit the article. That is the rule. So next time, you put that preachy text on Wikipedia, I will straight away report you without warning. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 23:50, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

What text did I copy over? Sarabveer (talk) 00:09, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Your most of the version. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 00:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Your most of the version? Use proper English. Sarabveer (talk) 00:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I have made it original as possible. And I am not preaching, Most places put Bhai Sahib before Bhai Randir Singh's name. I putting my article up now, since the old article, was approved by another Wikipedia moderator. He had no issues with it. I edited it to meet the Copyright standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarabveer (talk • contribs) 00:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Read WP:COPYRIGHT, WP:NPOV, Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. And can you tell me which Wikipedia moderator approved your version ?--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Discospinster did. Also, I didn't get it from AKJ Radio. I actually got the info from SikhWiki. Also, SikhWiki is a open Wiki, so thats why I used it. Check References. I modified that so it goes with the Coyright rule, Do you even real my article? Also, Why do you hate me, You probably dislike my article because of the Vaisakhi 1978 topic. Sarabveer (talk) 02:32, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Discospinster did not approve, he said that "you should resolve with other editor". Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing is a subset of copyright violations. I don't hate you, I don't know how you got that impression. I dislike your version because it is violating many wiki policies. We don't know from where SikhWiki got this, there is no way to prove that this is their original or they also got from AKJ Radio. Also, in general too, wikipedia articles are to be written in our own words, not copying text from anywhere. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC)r

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Template:Did you know nominations/Seafood pizza

Hi, in answer to your question, any editor can finish a review, although I think it's good manners not to jump in on the same day and overwrite the other editor. In the case of this nomination, I was away for 24 hours and came back to see that Mandarax and the page creator had resolved the citation issue between them, and since you hadn't returned to comment, I went ahead and approved the nomination. BTW whenever you see a nomination languishing for days or weeks without a response from the first reviewer, you can always jump in and finish it off. Best, Yoninah (talk) 12:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks. Since you are an experienced DYK editor, I will ask some more questions. In such situation whats happens to QPQ? Who in this case can use this review for their QPQ. I don't need to do any QPQ yet, but in future I will need. Another questions, when we nominate a new DYK, do we need to do a QPQ around that time or can we use any previously unused review for QPQ. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Both reviewers can use the QPQ, since they both checked the article against the DYK criteria. When you nominate a new article, you could probably use a QPQ that's up to a month old, but hopefully you'll enjoy reviewing so much that you'll have something a little more recent! Yoninah (talk) 12:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:23, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Raj Chengappa

Hi, I have made some recent changes that are not reflected in the tool. I hope that is sufficient. Thanks.:ನಿತಿನ್ (talk) 12:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

The article has now been rewritten section by section and the changes are now reflected on the tool. Thanks again. :ನಿತಿನ್ (talk) 10:24, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Made in India

Hi, the tool shows 0.0 % match, thus showing no infringement. Thanks.:ನಿತಿನ್ (talk) 12:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Please see the recent changes. :ನಿತಿನ್ (talk) 16:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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India Speaks DYK

Thanks for the nod...Onel5969 (talk) 01:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

:) --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ata Pata Laapata

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Date formats

Hello Vigyani. Thanks for your expansion of the Sikkimese general election, 1974 article. Just one comment - when writing dates, don't use "2nd", "23rd" etc - we have to use the "23 July" format (or "July 23" for American ones). See MOS:DATEFORMAT for more details. Cheers, Number 57 12:04, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I see that you have cleaned up also. I plan to nominate it for DYK, if that is okay with you. Is there any particular reason for removing the text out of the result section? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 12:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure, go for it. I removed the text from the results section as I think it's unnecessary duplication with a table below (and also repeats the intro). Cheers, Number 57 16:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

By the way, if you're looking for one to review, I recently nominated Eric Lawson, and no-one's done it yet. Number 57 19:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Ashutosh page

Dear Vigyani, I am a new user in Wikipedia and do not have much experience of doing editing in Wikipedia. Hence, I would like to deeply apologize if I ended up doing anything which you felt was a non-sense. I am extremely sorry about it, and have no intentions to create anything which does not makes sense.
Its just that I have lot of interest human mind dynamics, metaphysics, and Buddhist/Indian philosophy of possible existence of Higher States of Consciousness. Hence, this curious case of this Indian Godman caught my attention and I have been keenly following the case. I am myself exploring the reality of what is happening, and would like to understand the perspective in an unbiased manner. I really respect the fact that you shared me the link of Wikipedia's policies, but irrespective of that, I would never like to present anything in a biased manner or something which does not makes sense. Perspectively, I was just trying to edit things which are controversial but which appeared to me as painted black and white. If you would have given me sometime, I was going to support my changes with references of the recent court case hearings and associated urls in web news. I dont know how keenly you are following the case, but for me, it is something of great interest apart from the fact that it is a unique case in itself and has international ramifications. Hence, it is all the more important that we do not allow our biased perspectives to come into something which could affect the international community. Hence, I repeat, my endeavor is to just present the controversies in this case, which I believe has been overlooked by you or other people who have worked hard to create this page. In fact I appreciate your hard work and initiative in making this page, for when I tried to find about this man (Ashutosh) a couple of months back, I could not get anything on Wikipedia. But your hard work and endeavors has brought up this page, which would probably help millions across the globe to get consolidated information at a reliable source. With no intentions to be offensive and be non-sensical, I just felt that we would not do justice to the page, if we do not present the controversial aspects of the case. However, if you think my edits are non-sensical, I would abide by what you say; for you are a senior writer/editor and much more experienced than me, and more than that I need to respect you for your hard work, and I feel the kind of hard work you have put, I need to acknowledge you as one of the key owners of the page.
Do guide me in case you think I am not doing anything in right perspective. I would only like to move once you give me a green signal to go ahead. Awaiting your reply The Evolutioner (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Made in India (album)

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Did u check what verbatim means ? --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 09:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 2002 ICC Champions Trophy Final

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Sikh

I think the page should be moved to Sikhs (and can help with the redirect if needed). All the best, Miniapolis 01:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will consider this option. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:13, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of B.T. Lalitha Naik

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The translation of titles in references isn't a reason for delaying the review. If you propose a new hook quickly and replace the blog source then the nom would be good to go. I feel that a politician writing dialogues for and acting in first Banjara language film will be a better hook but there's no citation supporting this fact.--Skr15081997 (talk) 08:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I will get a new hook by tonight. I knew that translating the title is not the hurdle. I was just busy and couldn't spare time for the nom. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Vigyani, was away from wiki, just saw your message. Have done the needful. Happy it was featured on DYK. -Mohanbhan (talk) 06:40, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Achhe din anne wale hain

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DYK for B.T. Lalitha Naik

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DYK nomination of Sikkimese general election, 1974

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Thanks for your patience and understanding. I've approved it for promotion. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of 1978 Sikh-Nirankari clashes

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DYK for Achhe din aane waale hain

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:44, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for India Speaks

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

btw, I never thanked you for nominating the article. So, thanks! Onel5969 (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Wangath Temple complex

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 13:17, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sikkimese general election, 1974

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

IAC

Hello

Why have you deleted my edits for India Against Corruption. Please compare the article to the actual reference text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplonSimon (talk • contribs) 05:28, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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If you have time, can you review Template:Did you know nominations/Grazing Goat Pictures Pvt. Ltd. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk) 16:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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• Congo brother. Are you in Facebook, I was asking StrikeEagle about your Facebook profile. Could you send me a Facebook friend request here --Tito☸Dutta 11:54, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks @Titodutta:. And thanks for your link to your facebook page. I visited it and saw some of your pictures and enjoyed some jokes you had posted on your wall :). You are indeed a true Vivekananda fan :). As of now, I have decided to remain anonymous, so I am not adding any wikipedia editor on facebook. I hope we can keep on communicating using wikipedia and/or emailing services.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 1978 Sikh-Nirankari clashes

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Akhand Kirtani Jatha

Hi editor, I've re-written it to make it more encyclopaedic. See what you think. I used older versions that go deleted in the process. DeludedFan (talk) 14:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Reverting Mughal-Sikh War temple

Ok, noted. Thanks Vdhillon (talk)

Thanks for the Tips

Thanks for the tips bhai. I want to understand, why there is a practice of linking only once. Shouldn't linking multiple times make it easier for the reader to drill into a topic without having to scroll here and there trying to find the link (if any), as a reader I often find it frustrating to search the whole article for a link and not find any, or find it hidden/lost in the pile of the text.

Another thing is, I want to learn how to call another template from within a template i.e. do you have a sample of a template that I can look at that calls more templates.

I expanded the template on Gurus, I applied the criteria "what a new comer like to see, that summarizes the life of all gurus" as a short-and-sweet tool of learning and remembering the details, but I also recognize someone who created the original template may not like (people tend to become emotionally attached and very guarded of any changes to their templates), as a result I might have to create another DETAILED template (the way I have it now) and use it on the pages of Guru jis, which someone might try to revert. What do you suggest? Take a look at this please: I added 3rd last column (Contribution and Death) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:List_of_Sikh_Gurus

Finally, I still do not know whats the best way to communicate with other users of wiki? My page? their page? talk page of article? is there a way to directly inbox/sg them (or we can just leave a msg on their talk page only)? I feel lost with communication sometimes.

Sorry bhai, too many questions, Thanks for the patience and cooperation bhai.

Cheers! Vdhillon (talk)

#Guidelines for the over linking is given at WP:OVERLINK (see the last line prohibiting multiple linking in article body). Mainly it is distracting for a reader, if the color of texts keep on changing.

1. To call a template anywhere, just {{TEMPLATE NAME}}. Same markup can be used inside another template.
2. If you want to make a change to any template/page, please don't worry about if the original may or may not like it. As long as your edits are useful and in WP policies, you don't need to worry. Infact instead of creating a new template, you should edit the original template.
3. Best way to communicate is to use talk page. You can post a message on another user's talk page, but it is best to keep the whole conversation in one place. for example, I wrote a message on your talk page, which you could have replied there itself, instead of posting on my talk page. To keep the discussion in one place help to go through it at a later date. Don't worry about number of questions, you can ask me as many questions as you want. Another useful place to ask question is Wikipedia Teahouse.
4. Another thing, I am not sure how you are signing your posts, but you can just use ~~~~ at the end. This will place your signature along with the timestamp. Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

okie bhai

... Thankx

What happens when people have strong and opposing views on editing a page. How to resolve it (so far I have not been in such a situation).

I feel wiki is easy to do for the basic thing (create the page) but much harder to FIND for self-learning and collaborating with others, its trail and error and lots of scattered info, even the how to guides are not so easy to follow (im computer literate, been on wiki long enough, but still when it comes to collaborating/communicating with others or finding things, I feel like am more like a LONE trial-and-error wikiwarrior in my own corner :) Any tips ... thanks.

Vdhillon (talk) 07:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

To collaborate, you can make a post on the talk page of the article to find people who may be interested in working on the same topic. But unfortunately, not many editors work on Punjab related topics, so mostly we have to work alone. It is same with me, my primary interests are Punjab related articles, but I normally have to work alone. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:53, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Note of appreciation and a question

Hi, Vigyani. I wanted to thank you for your efforts to reign-in some of the more wild and least-policy-driven comments in the RfC at Talk:Punjabi, even though most of the more zealous contributors are, in a purely nominal sense, on the same side of the debate as you (though clearly your arguments are distinct from those who are voicing more emotional opinions and anecdotal perspectives rather than policy arguments. I know that, even from a practical perspective, it only makes sense to call them out, since many of those arguments are hurting the likelihood of the the outcome you desire, but even so, I want you to know that your efforts to restrain such contributions are noted and appreciated by at least one other editor involved there.

The second cause for this message is an inquiry about the facts of the content being debated. Now this question is in a sense irrelevant to the RfC itself, since the matter will be determined by the sources and their relevance to policy, but it could nonetheless help me gain some perspective on the debate. My inquiry presumes that you have some first-hand knowledge of both the language and script in question, which may be a completely erroneous assumption, but I judge you my best shot for an dispassionate and neutral answer amongst those editors on the page, so I hope you are in fact familiar and not just there on account of the RfC as I am. Clearly from your vote and comments you are of the opinion that Devanagari is not a major script of Punjabi, but just how marginal do you think the association between the two is? Is it, for example, likely in your opinion that 0.5% of contemporary speakers of Punjabi have had occasion to write in the language using Devanagari at some point? Again, this question is to a large extent academic, per the relevant policies and the principle of verifiability-not-truth, but I just want an impression of what manner of overlap exists. Thanks in advance for any insight you can give. Snow talk 09:55, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Snow Rise, thank you for the message and appreciation. Most of the other users in non inclusions of devnagari camp are from Punjabi Gurmukhi Wikipedia (There are 2 Punjabi WPs, one for each script, Gurmukhi and Shahmukhi). I also edited there for about 1 year, so I know them (other then brand new users). Comments by some other well meaning editors (ex. by Satdeep gill today) lacks citation of policies mainly because of inexperience of English WP. Punjabi Gurmukhi WP being a very small WP, doesn't have any elaborate policies or such debates. As you already noted on the RfC page, there is indeed a political/ideological undercurrent to the whole discussion. But, I am just interested in the present scenario, irrespective of any conspiracy theories.

Yes, I am a native speaker of Punjabi and studied Punjabi in Gurmukhi script. My signature include the word "contributions" written in Gurmukhi. I was not aware of that RfC until another user I was interacting with in another debate, commented there. Before the RfC, I was of the opinion that in modern times, no one uses devanagri to write Punjabi. I am reading some books and research papers these days for the RfC. From what I have understood, devnagari was used by some people to write Punjabi at some point of time in 50s or 60s. An attempt was made by certain right wing political parties to get devanagari listed as one of the script for Punjabi in India. The push was unsuccessful and only Gurmukhi is recognized as an official script. Use of Gurmukhi also has picked up since then and any use of devanagari died. At present, I am not aware of any actual use of devanagari for Punjabi, in terms of any newspaper, any author publishing their manuscript, or any community using it. The sources provided by Anupam in the RfC has surprised me and I am trying to find their original sources i.e. any survey or research paper etc. Again, I am not aware in terms of percentage about how many speakers used it at some point.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 14:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I see -- Thank you for the insight into both the issue at hand and the involved editors. It would seem we're in a little bit of a sticky situation here, stuck between a rock (the likely reality of the situation) and a hard place (WP:V). It is, however, reassuring to know that the use is likely not just marginal but in fact probably nearly non-existent, at least as regards everyday use by a community -- and that no misinformation results from its omission. I will, however, reserve a change on my vote until you feel you have found conclusive evidence or exhausted all reasonable avenues of research, since I don't like to part from strict adherence to a pillar policy unless it is absolutely certain that a given case is one of those extremely rare exceptions where there is really no choice, which indeed this may be. That said, I think at the very least the information you just imparted to me (that devnagari was for a time utilized as a script and pushed for sociopolitical reasons) is information worth noting for our users, either in Punjabi language or in History of the Punjabi language. As to establishing concretely whether any significant use persists today, comment on the talk page seems to have slowed for the moment, which will hopefully give you time to pursue whatever research avenues you have remaining, at your leisure. It seems we have relied quite a bit on you in this matter, not just as the one Punjabi speaker involved in the discussion who is willing to pursue the possibility of the unlikely until it can be reasonably discounted, but also as a bridge between both the two sides of the debate and the three Wikipedia communities involved, with their divergent approaches and policies. My impression is that you are a real asset to the project, so thank you for your hard work. Snow talk 00:32, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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