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Hi! Tom,
I've been busy adding references and links to this article Frybread and wanted to know if I could remove the reference request tag. I added references and removed one quirky :-) reference about Maximilian and his gypsies bringing frybread to Native Americans. I hope that is OK to do here. Also, I tried to link the Navajo to a page about Navajo People and couldn't quite figure that one out. The link went to the disambiguation page instead. Any ideas on how fix this? I'm having fun and it's fun to write in a peaceful place. LittleRedWriter (talk) 20:32, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Hello. I removed the reference tag and disambiguated the Navajo link in this edit. LittleRedWriter, please feel free to remove reference tags if you have added a reference. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Peer review for Pope John Paul II
Hi Tom, I was wondering whether you'd be interested in this? Kind Regards -- Marek 02:53, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've made a few comments. If you want, I have access to an excellent Catholic theology library and can dig up sources on Wednesday to help with some of the issues I've raised, if that's something you'd find useful. —Tom Morris (talk) 20:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- That's great Tom, I will contact you then. -- Marek.69 talk 02:53, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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BrightLemon submission
Hi Tom,
Thanks for leaving a comment on our Wikipedia post for BrightLemon, can you please suggest some links which will help us launch the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/BrightLemon
Thanks
Ed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.2.55 (talk) 09:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Trenzalor redux
You may already be watching these pages, but our friend first moved Talk:Trenzalore to Article:Trenzalore and recreated the old article there. Now he's moved that to an alternate spelling: Trenzalor. Only an admin can move the whole mess back to Talk:Trenzalore. First Light (talk) 21:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for telling me. I've deleted Talk:Trenzalore, deleted and recreated Trenzalore as a redirect and protected it. Warned the user. This really is a total and complete waste of time. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- I agree — and the protection seems the best way to protect from further wastage of time.... Thanks, First Light (talk) 03:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello again,
I am sorry that you feel this is a waste of time. What I think is a waste of my time is going through WP:DRV process. There are so many loop hole and redirects, it is difficult to find the proper place to put the complaint. Please explain why you feel so adamant to make me jump through these hoops. I am just trying to get some of the information on to an observable place on the Internet. This article as it is currently written will not remain in it's current state for very long. There are many revision and edits that are still to be made. I do not know what the final product will be. It cannot be corrected unless it is has time to mature. Once again I was simply being bold, I apologies for using such covert tactics to get the material onto the site. However, It is my opinion at this point in time that first light and Tom morris are too closed minded about the issue. They would continue to oppose it's publication even if I had testimonies for president, pope, or the dahlia lama himself. This is just a hypothetical to exaggerate my point. I will continue to pursue the matter until your opinion's do change.
edg's comment about moving to a different site is a good suggestion but it will take alot more time then I care to give to change all the google, bing, yahoo, and ask search queries to redirect to a site other than wikipedia on such a small topic such as trenzalore. There is also the issue of the many other pages within wikipedia that would need to be created on the other site. Others may start putting information on the tardiswikia but i have other things that preoccupy my time. This being one of them
Awaiting your responce,
Jerrydeanrsmith (talk) 05:45, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- The Pope may be Christ's vicar on earth, but if he were to side with you in this quixotic crusade, I would have to politely inform him that the inspiration of the Holy Spirit may be misguiding him on elementary aspects of Wikipedia policy.
- Sadly, neither His Holiness nor President Obama have weighed in on the notability guidelines on Wikipedia as they apply to Doctor Who fancruft. Until we do get such advice from powers temporal or spiritual, the issue is delegated to the Wikipedia community and the administrators it chooses to elect.
- I'm sorry that you feel I have mistreated you on these matters: I can, and have, assured you that this is not a close call. Every admin would have acted in much the same way that I have.
- Not that such advice will deter you. When someone is truly committed to their view and is unable to take "no" for an answer, the best one can hope for is hurrying them along down the inevitable path they have already chosen, even if it is utterly fruitless.
- In that spirit then, if you believe I have not treated you fairly, I invite you to start a thread at the administrators' noticeboard for incidents, which is the usual route for those who feel administrators have been unfair. I must warn you though, given policy, the result is a foregone conclusion: they will point out that the article did not meet the notability guidelines, and that the only thing that will change that is, as the general notability guidelines states, the existence of numerous independent reliable sources to establish notability. They will perhaps then question exactly why you have failed so spectacularly to grasp this extremely simple and basic aspect of Wikipedia policy even after repeated explanation. They may conclude from this that you are not exhibiting the minimum level of competence required to edit Wikipedia, and perhaps suggest that to safeguard everyone's sanity and productivity, a block be applied to your account so you cannot waste either my time or your own.
- Given that all previous efforts to explain Wikipedia's policy have been fruitless, you will most probably not heed my warnings, and you'll proceed to the administrators' noticeboard regardless, and then when they do almost exactly what I have just described, you will conclude that a grand conspiracy or cabal of administrators are out to persecute you and suppress your vital efforts to share your knowledge with the world.
- Do not let the advice I have just given stop you from pursuing the course of action you were going to follow anyway.
- You could also surprise me by not doing this, and instead accepting that I might actually be right in my understanding and application of utterly uncontroversial aspects of Wikipedia policy, that I have been meticulously fair in this, then cut your losses and not subject yourself to the humiliating ritual of being told you are wrong again. The choice is yours. —Tom Morris (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help!
Thanks Tom for your help concerning the Society of Decorative Artists. I am not a member, don't think my humble efforts are good enough, but I thought I'd give them a plug. If you are interested you can take a peek at my wannabe efforts: http://maybelle1.deviantart.com/. How do you insert the categories here? I could not find a category box to check off and I tried to understand the directions. :-) Thanks so much. Quill and Pen (talk) 22:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- I personally use HotCat. Adding categories is pretty easy - see Help:Category#Putting pages in categories. Also, check your email in a sec. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Off to check out the HotCat link. Have a lovely day! Quill and Pen (talk) 23:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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Deletion of Comtech Systems
We can disambiguate the page, hence keeping both. The only difference is in the legal extension and type, and of course, area served. And, we're older among our Indian counterparts. Please help me disambiguate the page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahils1512 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Stupid mistake
Ahhh. Thank you! [1] Deryck C. 18:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Geonotice
Hi Tom Morris, what was the problem here? When I added <sup>th</sup>, it was as they were added in this edit. Was there an error that I didn't see? (It is not easy, to me anyway, to preview that page for how it appears in the watchlist.) Thanks! Acalamari 19:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- The HTML tags were appearing in the output (on iPad) but weren't rendering. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Tom moris,
I would apprciate if i know the reason for the decline
Regards
Kalidasan.J — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaalidossan (talk • contribs) 07:50, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a place for original research including book reviews. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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This Month in GLAM: January 2012
Mr. Morris,
Many thanks for feedback on proposed article: Daniel Callaghan (politician). The referencing/citation requirements are overwhelming. Will endeavour but any guidance in the meantime would be greatly appreciated.
Paul O' SullivanPaulOSullivan81 (talk) 17:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Paul. You don't have to do the reference formatting stuff perfectly, but there needs to be something. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Arkell v. Pressdram, eh?
I commend the learnéd gentleman's command of the Law, and its appropriate application to the Monckton matter. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thank my instructing solicitor, Mr. Ironholds. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Solicitor? Tosser. Lead counsel. Ironholds (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Very droll. :-) Just one thing - the IP is a dynamic one at BT Internet, so I'd suggest reducing the block length to avoid collateral damage to other users. (If I remember rightly Orangemike set a length of 48 hours for previous blocks from this range.) Prioryman (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable; Tom, you got any problem with me WP:BOLDly jumping in? Ironholds (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Go for it. If it's sensible, it ain't wheel warring. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable; Tom, you got any problem with me WP:BOLDly jumping in? Ironholds (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Very droll. :-) Just one thing - the IP is a dynamic one at BT Internet, so I'd suggest reducing the block length to avoid collateral damage to other users. (If I remember rightly Orangemike set a length of 48 hours for previous blocks from this range.) Prioryman (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- Solicitor? Tosser. Lead counsel. Ironholds (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Tom, I've included three references for the Daniel Callaghan (politician) article. I hope it is sufficient. Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulOSullivan81 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hello,
What other information would need to edit the entry relevant? Perhaps some reference to a newspaper or magazine music? Could you tell me what else I can contribute?
Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbieMatise (talk • contribs) 15:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Tom Morris, please begin your reading here, continue here, and review the article talk page and the authorship of the link you just inserted. I believe you have just made a controversial edit through full protection. If you do not wish to self-revert, I can take this further - however I'd prefer to avoid such a course. Franamax (talk) 16:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- I don't plan on self-reverting, as I don't believe I have done anything controversial. As I've said on the talk page, any other admin is free to revert my edit if they believe it to be controversial. I won't make an issue out of it. I don't see a reason to self-revert, but I won't be a dick about it if someone else does it.
- With all due respect to the Arbitration Committee, Cirt's history at English Wikipedia is utterly irrelevant to his contribution at Wikinews. The Wikinews story is legitimately published, sourced and so on. If you think there is something Wikinews admins should be concerned with, I invite you to contact an uninvolved Wikinews admin, please post it on n:WN:AAA. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- (e/c) Thanks for the offer Tom, I did revert the edit in question. I will note though, I'm not aware of how BRD could ever apply to a protected page, since admins are supposed to be leading, rather than reverting each other. The whole idea of page protection is to get the discussion and agreement before the edits. (after e/c) I'm not involved with Wikinews and they are responsible for their own internal discipline. I mostly worry about this project, though I'm wondering about the meta-issues just now - but hopefully that will go away soon. Franamax (talk) 17:57, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi I have been visiting the Muse Art gallery in Hyderabad and i have attended all the art events curated by Kaali sudheer. He is doing a fantastic community service in the areas of Art . helping the budding, young, women artists to show case their talent and build their careers in the art . i spoke to him in length and understood that we need to have a wikipedia page for him so that it will be of use for Artists who want to show their works and get benefited. As the gallery is a not to profit started by a big name like Marriott and Marriott have partnered with kaali sudheer. Thought it will be of great use for artists around the world to use this wonderful space and show their talent. I have given the external links of well known sources like US consulate of Hyderabad , Confederation of Indian Industry ( CII) , Yahoo News and well known news papers Hindu and postnoon etc.. — — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregx1872 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Twinkle
Hi,
the Twinkle source code is actually maintained at https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle. Changes you make in the gadget file risk being overwritten if nobody notices, so it's best if you always leave a note at WT:TW.
Cheers, Amalthea 17:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine. Sorry I rather stormed in and boldly went where admins shouldn't go.
I'll clone it on Github later and make modifications. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:13, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- No worries about that, and I already duplicated your change in the repository. But if you plan further changes it would of course be best if you can make them in the repository right away. :) Amalthea 17:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. Thank you message for proposed for deletion of softpal. But I could not notice your message before deletion because i didn't access en:Wikipedia for a long time. I might re-create the article with the sources such as book and/or magazine in the future.--Mujaki (talk) 19:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Tom Morris,
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[[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_82#Learn_to_be_a_Wikipedia_Administrator_-
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of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
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Thanks. He also came to my talk page in a faintly threatening tone [2]. The thing is, he may well be correct to say that electrification was proposed at one time, but he seems not to understand that such a substantial claim requires a source. Am I right that one may remove unsourced claims at any time? If so, do you know where is the rule that says so in black and white? He claims that instead of removing his edit I should have found a source myself. -- Alarics (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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Page deletion clarification - PreludeSys
Hi Tom,
The page PreludeSys has been deleted on 10.February 2012. I would like to create a new page for the same. Is it possible to do that? If yes, how should it be done? and if no, why cannot I create a new page?
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