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Australia's Minister for Education

Please withdraw it and open a new RFD I meant that you should open a new RFD if you wanted to have it deleted. I wanted it to be clear that mine was a procedural keep, lest you think that I was opposed to its deletion, and I didn't want people using my "keep" as a reason to complain at you if you'd opened a new RFD. Nyttend (talk) 19:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

That's not very clear; sorry. Imagine that I create a bundled nomination, someone gives a substantive "keep" (i.e. on the merits, not a procedural thing like mine) to one of them, so I withdraw it and promptly start a new RFD for that item without mentioning the "keep". I'll deserve complaints because I'm apparently trying to hide the fact that the first RFD got opposition, trying to make it look like nobody's addressed the situation. This is what I was trying to prevent. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I kind of figured that much. At that time, I was just making a comment that there are plenty other redirects like the one I nominated. I just threw that out there in case someone wanted all of them deleted. Technically I didn't nominate the other ones, I just commented about them. So I really don't care what happens to the other ones. Tavix |  Talk  20:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for John Covert Boyd

Harrias talk 12:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to Participate in a WikiProject Study

Hello Tavix,

We’d like to invite you to participate in a study that aims to explore how WikiProject members coordinate activities of distributed group members to complete project goals. We are specifically seeking to talk to people who have been active in at least one WikiProject in their time in Wikipedia. Compensation will be provided to each participant in the form of a $10 Amazon gift card.

The purpose of this study is to better understanding the coordination practices of Wikipedians active within WikiProjects, and to explore the potential for tool-mediated coordination to improve those practices. Interviews will be semi-structured, and should last between 45-60 minutes. If you decide to participate, we will schedule an appointment for the online chat session. During the appointment you will be asked some basic questions about your experience interacting in WikiProjects, how that process has worked for you in the past and what ideas you might have to improve the future.

You must be over 18 years old, speak English, and you must currently be or have been at one time an active member of a WikiProject. The interview can be conducted over an audio chatting channel such as Skype or Google Hangouts, or via an instant messaging client. If you have questions about the research or are interested in participating, please contact Michael Gilbert at (206) 354-3741 or by email at mdg@uw.edu.

We cannot guarantee the confidentiality of information sent by email. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryzhou (talk • contribs) 19:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The link to the relevant research page is m:Research:Means_and_methods_of_coordination_in_WikiProjects. Md gilbert (talk) 00:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Roundheads "Right but Repulsive", Cavaliers "Wrong but Wromantic"

You moved John Clark (Parliamentarian) to John Clark (MP) because Parliamentarian (upper case P) does not usually mean MP it means a supporter of the Parliamentary cause in the Civil War. I have now moved the page to John Clark (Roundhead) to make that clear; If in future you wish to make a move from a dab extension of "(Parliamentarian)" to "(MP)" please use the WP:RM process. -- PBS (talk) 14:04, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

See Category:Roundheads there is a score of articles have the extension "(Parliamentarian)" -- PBS (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

User:PBS, I moved it per WP:QUALIFIER: "The disambiguator is usually a noun indicating what the person is noted for being in his or her own right." He was an MP, so that disambiguator was fine. I don't really care that much, I just noticed that the "MP" disambiguator is pretty standard for people who are MPs. From what I've known, people's positions are usually more notable than their party... Tavix |  Talk  14:41, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Not in the English Civil War -- like most of the gentry at that time held various offices. In his case including a colonel in the New Model Army, governor of Londonderry, member of the Council of State, member of the Committee of Safety, so he was known as many things in his own right. -- PBS (talk) 14:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Hunting Ground

Hello! Your submission of The Hunting Ground at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Foreign relations of.... nominations

Sorry, you are right about the proper nomination of Foreign relations of the Netherlands Antilles. My concern was the addition of a separate article that was not even mentioned in the nomination ([[1]]) and I didn't realise there were two N.Ant articles involved. I have now removed the Afd notice from the latter page, as it was not included in the nom description at all. Possibly best to start a separate procedure for that by the nominator... L.tak (talk) 20:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

L.tak, I was trying to figure out what you were referring to for a good amount of time when you added that message. I double and triple checked Foreign relations of the Netherlands Antilles and simply could not figure it out why you thought it was added on the 22nd. Now it makes sense! Thanks for letting me know what really happened. Tavix |  Talk  21:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Hunting Ground

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:07, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Closure at RfD

Thanks for bunging in, appreciated. If you close an RfD as non-admin, it's polite to use {{tlx|nac]]. If you're an admin, would also be polite to say so. Si Trew (talk) 21:16, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I've probably done about 50 NACs, and that was probably honestly the first time I forgot to add the NAC template. It was just a slip of the mind. Thanks for catching that! Tavix |  Talk  16:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Oceans Thirteen Redirect

Thank you for adjusting my deletion request - I've never done one before and didn't know that deleting a redirect was a different entry than deleting an article. Much appreciated.Jmg38 (talk) 05:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

comment at rfd

that remark you made to me I found extremely offensive.

I am sure you did not mean it that way and I will get over it. You surely did not mean to be offensive, but that kind off offhand jibe cut right across me and I jenuinely found it offensive.

I'll get over it. But just to let you know, don't go too harsh sometimes. That was extremely offensive to me. Si Trew (talk) 13:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@SimonTrew: I would like to apologize if you took it offensively. I was just stating my opinions on the matter and I guess when people have opinions that clash, they can be taken to mean a lot worse than they actually were. It's hard to express emotion through text anyway and sometimes people can get a completely wrong connotation than what was actually expressed. In the future, it might be best to WP:AGF because I wasn't attacking you at all. I honestly don't even know what I said that was offensive. But I am sorry nonetheless. Best, Tavix |  Talk  16:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Well, we've got to get the Carthorse sorted out, some good came of it then! I have no grievance with you, in fact, I should like to thank you. Things sound harsh on Wikipedia sometimes. We managed it without swearing, and without throwing our toys out of our pram. I take my hat off to you. Blimey how many more are we gonna find? Si Trew (talk) 09:15, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Double-A (baseball)

Hello! Your submission of Double-A (baseball) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Please see new note on DYK nomination template. Yoninah (talk) 18:00, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Please see new note on DYK nomination template. Yoninah (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

AfD: Andenne Bears

Care to reconsider your !vote @ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andenne Bears? I think a merge and redirect is a better option than an outright delete. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

  • A merge under these circumstances was effectively the same thing as a delete, and this got enough votes to get us there. It also pretty much established what we will do with the other 6 or 7 related team articles. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for all your hard work at RfD

Title says it all.

Thanks once again. Si Trew (talk) 06:07, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@SimonTrew: Thank you for your kind words. I could say the same about you. I missed you last week, but now I have to get used to the crazy way your mind works again. My apologies for not "getting" what you were trying to do at first with Lead crystal battery. Tavix |  Talk  15:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm not that crazy am I? Usually just wrong, and I am a chartered engineer: I have spent my life being wrong so that doesn't bother me. I just try to think out of the box as the managers say, of what would others search for? 98% of the time I am entirely wrong but there are occasions, the other 2%, when people go oh that is exactly right. And it is worth it for that 2%, if it helps people find what they are looking for. Si Trew (talk) 23:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Signature

Just to let you know, there appears to be a </span> missing from the end of your signature, messing up some formatting of some pages. Just a heads up in case you haven't noticed yet! Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Mdann52: I'm a little confused. I only use span once, and I already have it closed at the end. I tried adding another </span> at the end of everything but it gave me an error message. Tavix |  Talk  02:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, this was raised because of this fix I did. The original edit looks fine, so must of been an accidental change later on. Apologies, Mdann52 (talk) 10:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Bartho Smit

Thank you for the compliment about the other Afrikaans one, at WP:RFD, Where does this one originate, I might be able to do it. I do need gtrans' help sometimes but the main problem is making it run smoothly in Engish word order, which one only sees after a day or two, not because of gtrans (I know five or six languages depending on how you count) but you are so close to it that you can't seee the meat for the potatoes. Standing back you then see it. Si Trew (talk) 04:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@SimonTrew: af:Bartho Smit. Tavix |  Talk  04:43, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll have a stab then. Si Trew (talk) 04:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I got the infobox in which is always the struggle. Rest should be easy. Si Trew (talk) 05:05, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I've done it to the best of my ability but a second set of eyes (i.e. yours) is always useful. Si Trew (talk) 09:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

"Hop on the comment train" over at WP:RFD

That made me laugh (quietly). I dunno why. Nice expression, I like it. Well you brightened my morning already. Si Trew (talk) 05:28, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Double-A (baseball)

Hello! Your submission of Double-A (baseball) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bartho Smit

Allen3 talk 00:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bartho Smit

Thanks very much for acknowledging me as a contributor to this. Looking back I didn't do much, just whacked in an infobox and some references I think. I didn't even translate the references, which I usually do, but got distracted by something else: anyway if I remember it has to be done in five days so we can go back and do that later. I hope it got some DYK hits (haven't checked yet), especially from South Africans, as it can be a good spur to the article being improved. Nice job, well done, but really nothing to do with me, I just organised the information that was already there. A belated thanks as I have been away for a few days in Madrid realising just how rusty my Spanish has become, it polished up in a few days though. Si Trew (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Wow 1615 that's a bloody good total. Well done! I need to do QPQ before I submit any of mine (usually translations but it's long-established consent that translations count as new content for DYK) and I am busy enough at RfD and doing the translations to do that as well. Si Trew (talk) 13:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@SimonTrew: It had 410 characters before you did your translations and about 1050 characters afterwards. So your contributions were about a third of work and honestly it was the most important. I didn't think it was possible to get enough information for a DYK until after you worked on it. Tavix | Talk  18:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm going on memory, but I thought 5,000 characters of running text excluding infoboxes etc. was usually the minimum for a DYK, so I think you have winged this one past them. Never mind, it got lots of hits and can only improve the encyclopaedia by doing so: it is better than what it was. When I have time I shall translate the refs etc and try to add more content. Don't let me forget, give me a prod (not a WP:PROD!) when I should start. I'll take the refs section first and put into {{cite book}} etc, which is a complete pain in the arse to do, and takes ages, but I am your humble gnome Si Trew (talk) 20:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
To be clear: I don't speak Afrikaans but I do know a bit of Dutch. I don't want anyone to think I am an expert or anthing, just that it is better. I notice that the first title is translated somewhere along the way as "Well without person", which would seem a very odd translation even by Gtranslate's standards, but is in Wikipedia somewhere. It would be "Well without water", or "Waterless well", depending on how the literary translator did so. "Dry well" would probably be the engineering term, especially in oil wells, but that is not very literary. Si Trew (talk) 20:14, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Double-A (baseball)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:30, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Chat?

Could you enable your email feature, or send me a message through mine? I wanted to discuss something with you. --BDD (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

@BDD: I haven't enabled my email feature because I prefer communicating with people through their talk pages. If you want to make it a motto, it can be something like "what happens on Wikipedia stays on Wikipedia." That being said, if you want to send me an email, you can use tavix1@gmail.com. Tavix | Talk  18:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 Done It's nothing I'd mind repeated here. You'll understand (I think). --BDD (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
As an FYI, I've now activated my email address. -- Tavix (talk) 21:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

2016 New York Yankees season

I've speedy tagged this. I managed to find another way to remove the redlink until the article is created. See 2015 New York Yankees season, no redlink is going to appear once the article is actually deleted. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 09:29, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Heart of Light

In future, please do a google book search before prodding an article. It should never have been deleted.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld:I appreciate the WP:GOODFAITH. I actually conducted a Google Scholar search along with the suggestions presented at WP:BEFORE. There were legitimate concerns with the sourcing of the article, and I wasn't able find adequate sourcing for it. I'm glad you did, so the whole situation was a net-positive. If you have concerns with the deletion of the article, take it up with the admin who deleted it. Tavix | Talk  09:31, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
For films try google books instead of scholar! You can also quickly draw up book refs using this. Better than tagging articles for deletion if there's hits and takes about 30 seconds!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: I appreciate the advice. Happy editing! Tavix | Talk  09:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

It's a WP:MAD world

I'm really pleased that you've come up with such an elegant solution to the MAD problem. I'd like to see some of this documented there. Perhaps we could even make a template to generate the sort of messages that you made at Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 May 29. Do you have much experience with templates? I know a few good editors we could call on for help with them too. --BDD (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@BDD: I appreciate those kind words. WP:MAD could really benefit from some clean-up. I'd prefer it not to have so much subjective language so people can decide for themselves which solution is the best for their situation. I might work on it a little bit when I have more time. I want each solution to have a T-Chart type advantage/disadvantage list and hopefully examples for each solution (similar to how WP:RFDO is set up). As far as a template goes, I don't have a whole lot of experience in that field. All of the templates I've created were copy/pasted and adjusted for what I needed. If you'd like to reach out to those people and get one created, that'd be pretty cool... Tavix | Talk  20:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Darn. I was going to ask Steel1943, but I he's a retired. That's a real loss. It should be a simple template, though—above my head still, but within the capabilities of plenty of editors. We could certainly have documentation that recommends the template instead of prescribing it outright, or perhaps we could just note its existence and let editors decide. --BDD (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Wow, I'm surprised about Steel1943. He never struck me as the type of person who would retire like that. Anyway, I've pretty much reached my limitations as far as this subject goes. If you want to pursue it further, please, be my guest. It doesn't take that long to do manually (5 minutes, tops), so I'm fine with whatever happens. Tavix | Talk  21:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Actually, Tavix, this is the either 3rd or 4th time I've attempted a retirement, and I'm honestly hoping this one will stick. However, at this point, I'm at least going to respond to emails and notifications (in this case, it was the notification from BDD's mention that led me here) and I'll probably be logging in once every 1–2 weeks until I finally drop Wikipedia for good (if that ever happens). Anyways, my two cents on the WP:MAD discussion: I really don't know if I would be of much help, considering that I actually disagree with the premise behind WP:MAD and would have voted to do the same or something similar to what Oiyarbepsy's opinion suggested: move the attributions to a valid title for a redirect (not the "/version 2" titles I see appear from time to time), then delete the nominated redirect. I feel that serves a greater good to the project since the true attribution is retained somewhere for all editors' viewing convenience. Steel1943 (talk) 20:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bryan Burnham

Hello! Your submission of Bryan Burnham at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —Bagumba (talk) 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Dylann

A tag has been placed on Dylann, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo, or other unlikely search term.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. — Wyliepedia 00:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Please read the RD info before removing. — Wyliepedia 00:17, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Whoops! It slipped my mind that CSD notifications don't work the same way as WP:PRODs as this is the first time I can remember one of my own contributions nominated for CSD (ie: you can remove a prod from your own creation). Every time I've contested a speedy in the past, it's been someone else's creation. Sorry about that! -- Tavix (talk) 16:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Anonymous IP

Hello Tavix! Would you please report an admin or should I do? That an Anonymous IPs like 27.62.31.241 and 74.120.223.141 are proposing usable redirects again and again. I think it's the same person and I think it's CosmicEmperor who's been blocked recently for some matters. But I think it's him proposing my redirects from IPs, because I proposed his 6-7 useless redirects 7 or 8 days ago, which are were resulted deleted. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!: That thought did cross my mind when I saw them nominated. I don't have any experience with this sort of thing, but from what I can tell, the next step would be to gather as much evidence as you can, and if you think it's obvious that the IPs are a WP:DUCK of CosmicEmperor from that evidence, open an WP:SPI. -- Tavix (talk) 16:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Okay thanks. I'll let you know if he does a move again. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!: No problem. Give me a ping when/if you open an WP:SPI because I'm curious to find out if they are, in fact, CosmicEmperor. I think there is enough behavioral evidence there to at least have a checkuser look into it. I just can't imagine why an IP with no other contributions would want these redirects deleted (I'm thinking Occam's razor here), but I've been surprised before... -- Tavix (talk) 16:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll make sure that you know when I start an SPI. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 18:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

New Rivers in Nanjing

I've edited the relevant disambiguation page. New River already links to Xinhe, which already lists Shangxinhe. I've added Qinhuai River to the list, with an explanation of why it should be there. [2] Deryck C. 05:35, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan: It looks like JohnBlackburne added Xinhe to New River after I asked you that question and that satisfied me. I appreciate you looking into it. -- Tavix (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

List of earthquakes and tsunamis in the United States

Thanks for moving the list. I have been considering moving that one for a long time. Dawnseeker2000 00:33, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Boston B's

A tag has been placed on Boston B's, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo, or other unlikely search term.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Compassionate727 (talk) 17:08, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Britbrit

When I get the time (Internet is too slow at home) what would be the best way to show evidence of the use of "Britbrit"? If it's not enough to please you then I suppose we can delete the redirect.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee:The easiest thing to do would be to source the nickname at the Britney Spears article. Search results show this is a perfectly acceptable nickname for Britney Spears, so do that, ping me, and I'll withdraw the nomination. I do think it could refer to other people/things, but upon second glance, she does seem to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and the hatnote can solve the rest. Thanks. -- Tavix (talk) 21:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I was afraid Lisa de Moraes was the only one who had done this, in which case you would have a good case for deletion. I'm not sure when I'll get to this.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
@Vchimpanzee: I've withdrawn the nomination. Remember you have WP:NODEADLINE to add that information to the article. Thanks for the chat, I've enjoyed it. -- Tavix (talk) 15:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to add it. It's a good article, and inserting something like that is going to be a problem. This is the oldest use of "BritBrit" by Lisa de Moraes in The Washington Post using the newspaper's search function. I'm going to try the other method I have access to, if I can figure out how.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


My RfA

Pavlov's RfA reward

Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Oppose so you get only one cookie, but a nice one. (Better luck next time.)
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

Ways to improve Joie

Hi, I'm Valereee. Tavix, thanks for creating Joie!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Only one page seemed to link here, and that was a bad link

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. valereee (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bryan Burnham

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Snyder Avenue

It feels like it should be an {{R from related topic}} + {{R with possibilities}} rather than {{R from incorrect name}}? Deryck C. 08:07, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Deryck Chan: It could be all three of those. I was emphasizing the fact that "Snyder Avenue" isn't the correct name of the station, and you're talking about the street itself. I think we're both right. -- Tavix (talk) 13:36, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Edited. Thanks. Deryck C. 19:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Talkpages of redirected articles

You're welcome. Candidly, I didn't know about the template either until I looked it up during the MfD. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Precious

meaningful redirects
Thank you for quality articles such as The Other Side of the Sky: A Memoir and List of Bible verses not included in modern translations, for contributions and DYK nominations such as The Hunting Ground, for set indices such as Anna Sophia, for explained page moves, for tireless efforts to improve the quality of redirects, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you for this, which possibly prevented a discussion being needlessly closed, further complicating matters. Rubbish computer 00:39, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

WP:RFD#Watching paint dry

I have cut-and-paste moved the discussion continued after the close WT:NOT#RfC: Should we add a footnote to WP:NOTHOWTO/WP:NOTFAQ stating that it does not apply to redirects? to WT:RFD#Does WP:NOT apply to redirects? I am now squatting on your page and name dropping hoping that all involved, User:Thryduulf, you, me, User:Godsy, User:Steel1943, User:Ivanvector, User:Lenticel and others may contribute to that discussion there. I have mentioned the names elsewhere but I don't know what notifications they may or may not get, so if I have excluded anyone, it is simply my fault of memory. I agree with you, Thryduulf did a grand job of encapsulating it, but I fiddled a bit with the wording in the fourth point, but essentially unchanged. I don't think User:WilyD had much to say on this one. Sorry to squat on your talk page but essentially just trying to tie the various discussions together. I suppose I should put it on my own. Si Trew (talk) 08:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  • I don't think anyone thinks WP:NOT doesn't apply to redirects. Only that NOTFAQ is quite explicit that it's about how articles are organised, so it's just meaningless gibberish when you try to apply it to pages that don't organise information. It doesn't make sense to add a footnote saying it doesn't apply to redirects anymore than it makes sense to add a footnote saying it doesn't apply to images, or userpages, or whereever else where what it says just isn't on topic. Why would you add a footnote duplicating information that's already in the main policy? Anyone who's read the policy in depth already knows it, and anybody who hasn't gone beyond the short-form link is never going to find the footnote. WilyD 09:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thus (company)

Hi. I've removed your RM/TR request because it was contested. Normally when a request there gets contested we just take it to a full RM discussion, but seeing as there was an RM about this only a few weeks ago (see Talk:Thus (company)) I thought you would prefer I not start another discussion in your name right now. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

No worries, I just forgot to check the talk page. Thanks. -- Tavix (talk) 20:27, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding those "Qantas" redirects ...

I thought I'd ask your opinion on this since you provided a "strong delete" vote on the "Qantas" redirect discussions, and I agree with your rationale. After I participated in the most recent discussion, I noticed that there is a page that could be turned into a list page and be modified to be used for these "Qantas" redirects: List of Google domains. In response, I have started the following draft: Draft:List of Qantas domains. I think that the nominated redirects, plus maybe the ones deleted in the previous discussion, could be retargetted to this draft (after it is tweaked and "un-Google-ized") since it will identify all of these domain redirects, but not identifying them as an "official name" for Qantas, since they are not. I think that this will be the most information we will ever have about these domain redirects since I doubt we will ever have an article on them as standalone subjects. What do you think? (If the idea seems terrible, I may just G7 the draft.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:39, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

@Steel1943: I think there's a pretty big difference between Google's domains and Qantas. Besides the fact that Google's primary business originated from its website, it's domains could be considered notable in their own right (maybe. It's along the same lines as German Wikipedia). They're valuable search engines in different languages. Qantas is an airline, and I doubt their website, let alone their domains, would be notable. I don't think it's worth the page, and would be bordering on WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I appreciate the effort though... -- Tavix (talk) 17:57, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your input on this Tavix. Yep, I am now convinced that with this, plus Qantas lack of notability vs. Google, the list wouldn't survive an WP:AFD anyways. Here comes the G7... Steel1943 (talk) 17:59, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
@Tavix: I just noticed this discussion and I am literally LOLing at this. I agree with the fact that Google is quite different from Qantas. I have seen Google ads for Qantas while I am browsing the web, because I Google "Qantas"(!) (cause I love it!). Here is a rather intersting article [3]. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 01:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
@Tavix, Steel1943, and SimonTrew:Now take a look at this and this I just typed two certain words into... well... one of those words! I might start a draft on this ...not! - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 04:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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RfD

Sorry, got your ping from RfD earlier but forgot to reply. I found one of the Shyamalan redirects tagged as a G10 but didn't notice the other one or the RfD. Looks like it was taken care of; thanks! Opabinia regalis (talk) 00:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

@Opabinia regalis: I remembered after the fact that G10's are courtesy blanked so you probably wouldn't have seen it. It's no problem at all, thanks for taking care of the first one. Best, -- Tavix (talk) 00:44, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, and a suggestion

Appreciate you taking the time to list all those bad hockey redirects at RFD. I was actually starting to compile a list myself (of the same ones you are nominating now), but closed the damned window when I got to Ottawa and lost everything. FWIW though, I don't think you need to template Dolovis for every single redirect. Probably a single notification that numerous are going in one shot would be sufficient. Same with other users you will come across who created multiple such redirects. Cheers! Resolute 00:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, man, can you combine all those noms? Not sure I want to cast the same !vote 100+ times! Resolute 00:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
@Resolute: I'm doing it the same way I did last time (check the history). Twinkle doesn't allow for mass nominations, so I nominate them all individually and then merge at the end. That's also why he's getting a bunch of notifications. I'll stop doing that, but I have to remember to uncheck the box every time, so it'll take just a bit longer. Oh well... -- Tavix (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Ahh. I see. Bit of a shame. I just know that you're going to end up templating him about 100 times - and another editor about a half dozen. But the problem with Twinkle is I know that a third editor had created one such redirect, so unchecking might mean a couple users get no notifications at all. In that case, you probably should leave defaults so all relevant parties get notices. Oi. Resolute 00:17, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
@Resolute: I'll just check the history before I nominate them. Also, if you know where more are, I'm not sure where to look after the team draft pick lists. If you still want to put that list together, feel free. I could then nominate them for you if you'd like, or you can do it yourself (totally fine either way). -- Tavix (talk) 00:24, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
The problem is that this is a very deep rabbit hole. Josh Caron, for instance, redirects to 2010–11 Minnesota Wild season, since there are team-specific draft lists on every team article. For the last decade alone, that is 300 articles to check. I know there won't be a lot. But there will be just enough to be a pain in the ass. Also, I saw one link at List of Telus Cup award winners - and I don't know how many award list for midget, junior, college or senior awards exist, or how many redirects exist. I was contemplating asking a botop to simply generate a csv list of redirects at any list article in WP:HOCKEY. Resolute 00:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
@Resolute:The bot idea could be a good one. There's an external tool that lists redirects created, and I was thinking about just going through that when I had time. Of course it would only find Dolovis's and I'm assuming he's created other redirects, but it's a thought. -- Tavix (talk) 00:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The list a kindly botop gave me: User:Resolute/botreq. I've already just nominated the 33 links to draft articles I've found. That list did remind me of a related set, which is "non-notable brother/father/son who also plays hockey --> notable player" redirects. There's a few here I am contemplating a nomination on for the same reason as a test case, but that's a rabbit hole I'm not sure I want to go down, because a bot generated list of redirects for hockey bio articles would be a few million bytes. Resolute 23:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

@Resolute: Wow, you've got a lot of garbage to sort through. Let me know if you'd like assistance with it... If you want to try a test case with the family redirects, I think you have a strong case. Of course, you only have to go down the rabbit hole as far as you want, but you could at least knock off the low hanging fruit and worry about the rest another day. -- Tavix (talk) 02:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Most of it, thankfully, can be disregarded. Redirects that point season ranges with hyphens to those with endashes (2014-15 --> 2014–15), for instance and which are useful. Some of the silly usages of nicknames or lastname, firstname format simply aren't worth the effort to target, imo. But I may well test some of those person to different person redirects at some point. Thanks! Resolute 03:23, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for J.C. Nicholson

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Hockey on the ice

The term hockey on the ice or hockey on ice is another term for bandy. It should therefore not redirect to ice hockey, even if that could seem logical. So I remade the redirects again. I hope that's OK with you. Skogsvandraren (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

@Skogsvandraren: I'm okay with that, but I do think it's confusing. I added a hatnote at the top of bandy to hopefully alleviate that confusion. -- Tavix (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
That's not very WP:WORLDWIDE though: Bandy I think is Australian but I think Canadians tend to call ice hockey just "hockey", but in old Englandland "hockey" does not mean ice hockey, but grass hockey (which the British ladies just won in some worldwide competition of girlie sports, Rachael Heyhoe-Flint being a great ambassador (ambassadrix?) for women's hockey and women's cricket, as well as having an umbeatable name and apparently now installed in the House of Lords. I think Britain won the grass hockey at the last olympics, too.)
Jolly hockey sticks and all that. Si Trew (talk) 05:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
I suppose that when you say grass hockey, you mean field hockey. Field hockey is never played on ice. Bandy is not Australian, it was originally developed in England and nowadays has its biggest following in Russia and the Nordics. Skogsvandraren (talk) 06:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
One thing that may add to the confusion is that the French name for hockey, "hockey sur glace" literally translates to "hockey on ice", which is why this redirect has changed a couple times. Resolute 16:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I think it should direct to ice hockey. In English far more people are going to search for ice hockey by typing hockey on ice than people searching for bandy would. Thus the redirect would be more useful pointing to ice hockey. Or if you want to compromise the hockey article which includes both. -DJSasso (talk) 17:33, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Thanks for reverting my stupid subst at RfD. I have no idea how I managed that, my Interweb was rather slow yesterday so perhaps it was twixt a cup and a leap, but thanks for reverting it. Si Trew (talk) 05:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I should also just like to thank you, genuinely and sincerely, with a barnstar of good humour or humor. Your constant intelligent contributions to RfD makes it worth coming there. I shall not always agree with you, that is why we discuss things, and I don't know how to award barnstars. Perhaps this morning I shall try to find out, but if I cock it up, please take this as being one. Si Trew (talk) 07:16, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay this is the first time I have tried to award someone a barnstar so please excuse me if I cock it up.

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The Super-Gnomish barnstar, for gnoming around in the background with no fuss nor bad words to anyone, for intelligence, good nature, constant volunteering in the face of all adversity. A true credit to Wikipedia. Maybe one day we will have a pint together, even a non-alcoholic one or a US pint instead of an Imperial pint.


Bullying

I do not appreciate you piling on with a second message on my talk page about the same thing when the message from Ivan would've sufficed. This is why people give up on wikipedia.--Dr who1975 (talk) 22:19, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

It looks like Ivanvector answered your question already. -- Tavix (talk) 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Need help editing sports articles at GOCE

Hello, Tavix - I was reading the discussion on Paine Ellsworth's talk page, and, after reading your comment, I looked at your user page out of curiosity. I see you are interested in sports. I have been working for some time copyediting articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, and there are several articles about sports figures for which a request was made several weeks ago. I have very little interest in sports, so I tend to choose other articles to copyedit. One or two articles on sports figures have been there for so long that the request is about to expire and will be removed if no one accepts the assignment with the {{Working}} template. One is Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests#William Lofland Dudley and the other is Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests#Sam Hornish, Jr. If you feel you could do a copy-edit of those articles, I'm sure the requesters would be grateful. Corinne (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

R from sort name

Didn't know {{R from sort name}} existed either. I do check at whatever it is that lists the Rcats and am a big fan of Rcatting as I think you are and BDD is cos I know it is kinda meta-categorisation but it does help when we discuss things to say "look, these are in this category too", it's kinda a small balance weight to me when deciding whether something should go or stay, and I think you are quite right that while tidying up you add the rcat, I tend to do the same, or say "without prejudice to the discussion" (and I mean that) if I add an rcat while it is under discussion, cos the rcat in itself shouldn't influence the discussion, but if it happens to be kept we have the rcat ready with it.

Gosh that packed the maximum number of words into the minimum amount of thought. Keep going! Si Trew (talk) 08:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Donald Trump's Hair

Is it possible to mention commercial brands and products in Wikipedia or does this behaviour represent the so called CONCEALED ADVERTISING (in latin: publicitas occulta). I remind a product very recommended in Italy - a country of renowned hairstylist, "Guido" for instance, eponym of the O.G. - that was called GRECIAN. BroccoBaldo (talk) 19:13, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're saying. -- Tavix (talk) 19:18, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) wut --BDD (talk) 21:12, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

what page?

Would you mind telling me what page you think is an attack page? Si Trew (talk) 02:57, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

I tagged The hole with the mint in it for G10. -- Tavix (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Äh OK fair enough. It wasn't really an attack, IIRC I created it was part of the redirect discussion about disparaging names that we had from time to time (I can't remember the original place name, somewhere in the US, and so can't find the discussion, but another one came up recently), and I probably meant to G7 it myself after the discussion had ended (in case you don't know, it's a pun on the slogan for Polo mints, "The mint with the hole in it"). Quite happy for it to be deleted. I'll copy this to the discussion. Si Trew (talk) 03:01, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Ah, looking at the history, it looks like I did go G7 myself then decided against it. I think you probably meant G7 not G10, since it is not an attack against a person, living or otherwise. I've copied the above (but not this) to the talk page of the article. You scared me there! I'm an idiot, but not a nasty idiot. Si Trew (talk) 03:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Langauge

Am I missing something? What's a "langauge"? JohnCD (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

@JohnCD: That's real weird. I don't remember visiting that page, much less making that edit. It must have been a misclick. My apologies. -- Tavix (talk) 16:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
The page was added to my watchlist too, which makes it even weirder (and I'm certain it wasn't there before). I'm really confused about this. -- Tavix (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
No worries! Out of curiosity, do you know what that "& s h y ;" code means? I'm guessing it's "Break here if you have to put this on two lines", but I can't find it at Help:Wiki markup. JohnCD (talk) 16:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
No sooner sent than I had another idea, and found it at MOS:SHY under "soft hyphens". JohnCD (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

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Thanks, Sadads! I'll appreciate not getting those seemingly random notifications every time one of the articles I've created has been patrolled. Cheers, -- Tavix (talk) 17:22, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Opened a move discussion

Please see Talk:DELE (Spanish test)#Requested move 07 November 2015, Consider adding your opinion there. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:32, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done-- Tavix (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Deletion

If you ever want to delete something I created, come and ask me. I may be happy to tag it {{G7}}, or I may have a convincing reason for keeping it. In either of those cases a lot of effort is saved. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:55, 12 November 2015 (UTC).

@Rich Farmbrough: I wanted discussion on WikiData redirects in general, and RFD is the perfect place for that. A G7 obviously would prematurely close the discussion, but there'd be no harm either way. -- Tavix (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't think a random group of RfD habitues is a good constituency for such a discussion. The potential use of such redirects needs careful thought and analysis. This can happen at some later time, on a suitable forum or fora (e.g WP:VPT). For example some of the apparent potential uses may be completely displaced by alternative solutions. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC).
Well, I believe that Redirects for Discussion is a good place to discuss redirects. Sorry for bothering you... -- Tavix (talk) 20:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
No problem. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC).

Hi

Where'd you get your NFL lists from. I found them by "What links here". thx WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 16:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Turtle Power

Just to let you know, Turtle Park has leapfrogged over older nominees and is now queued up for Main Page DYK on November 19th at 7 p.m. NYC time. Just in case you wanted to catch it "live". . . Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 19:08, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I'm happy to see that because I'll be free then. The old time wasn't good for me because I'll be traveling this weekend. Cheers! -- Tavix (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Turtle Park

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