User talk:Steven Walling/Archive 12

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Anarchy in Somalia

Yo, thanks for reviewing Anarchy in Somalia. I've made some initial responses to your comments on the talkpage. Regards, Skomorokh ^incite 03:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Further updated. Skomorokh ^incite 04:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:GA number

I am not sure if you monitor Template:GA number, but I don't think it was updated for Mercury Hayes earlier today. I know the reviewer did not, but several adjustments have been made to the count that don't state a specific article in the edit summary. You are much closer to this part of the process than I, so I don't want to double count or omit the article. Please make the proper correction.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Osprey caps

Okay, I'm confused now. Per Wikipedia:BIRD#Bird_names_and_article_titles and WP:MOS common names for bird species are capitalised; any reason why tehy shouldn't be for osprey (except when referring to the osprey family)? Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Good articles

Hi Steve -- thanks for having a look at Iyasu V of Ethiopia. I'm not up to date on the procedure for GA, so whom would I ask any general questions about the article or the criteria? -- llywrch (talk) 04:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay; I've had some personal business that's taking up my time. Here are my questions, posed in a manner that I hope is not comabtive, a failing I often display:

"In the intro, it calls him the 'designated but uncrowned' emperor. Shouldn't this say defacto?" -- IIRC, Ethiopian custom was that an Emperor would not be crowned until following an important event (like a military victory) in his reign. This was not unusual: another example Haile Selassie ruled for several months until he could throw a proper gala & introduce all of his titled visitors from Europe. However, I have the impression that this fact is often mentioned by his enemies to discredit his legitimacy. I'm not quite sure how to phrase this in a way that doesn't reek of original research or peacock language.
"technically jihad is still a foreign term meriting italics per MoS. But it is very commonly understood as a repercussion of Islamic terrorism, and I think it would be better to not italicize it. Minimal change to text is desirable in terms of readability, but maybe a link would suffice for those unfamiliar." -- I am quoting Trimingham in this section, & IIRC he italicizes the word. Unless you think I should suppress all italics in this quotation.
"I know photos of long-dead Ethiopian rulers a not exactly a dime a dozen, but some kind of image, even in the body, would be nice" -- I know of an image at the RoyalArk website (which is one of the external links), but I don't want to add it into the page until I understand whether it is PD or Fair Use. Unless you think it is worth the hassle of dealing with the "Free image" types & their bots.

If you don't feel you can answer these questions, a pointer to the best place to ask would be great. Thanks in advance. -- llywrch (talk) 23:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Wiki winos and GA segment in the newsletter

Thanks again for volunteering to help the Wine Project identify GA candidates. I was wondering if you would be interested in participating in the Wiki-Winos segment for an upcoming edition of the Wine Project Newsletter. (I'd probably post a new one next Monday-Tuesday). If you are interested, take a look at the interview questions and answer any that you would like. Just post your replies on the answer page. It would also be pretty neat to run a continuous segment in the newsletter with updates on the progress on the GA front in regards to wine articles. Would you be interested in helping with that? Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 02:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'd like to do the next newsletter sometime next week. The GA segment will probably be the main focus for the entire newsletter so I'm content to wait till you've finished your preliminary analysis before publishing. When you have your write done just posted it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Newsletter/Sub-projects page and I'll cut n paste it in its entirety to the Newsletter. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 00:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Megalodon

Hello VanTucky! The entire content of the Megalodon article have been further refined and improved by me now and I have resolved many issues (including most of those that were pointed out by an another member in the talkpage of the article) and have posted a brief summary of the changes. Additionally! I have used several new sources (including some books) for citation of many points in the main article. So far, no more opinions have been posted in the talk page, which probably indicates that the article is in much better condition now. But the important thing is that your verdict on the current status (latest revision) of this article would be welcomed.

--LeGenD ^talk 01:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution and support.

--LeGenD ^talk 12:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC cloak request

I am VanTucky on freenode and I would like to request the cloak wikipedia/VanTucky. Thanks VanTucky 23:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Flora

Well you also have the skin flora, the urinary tract flora and the nasal flora, so it isn't all gut, although instinct might suggest that. ;) Tim Vickers (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Pintail

Thanks again for reviewing, I'm amazed it got through so quickly Jimfbleak (talk) 13:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Socratic Barnstar
		I'm impressed, VanTucky, with your in-depth knowledge of the GA process and thank you for the good GA work you do... Johnfos (talk) 03:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Most recently, I was very impressed with the thoughtful quick-fail explanation you wrote for Alaska... regards, Johnfos (talk) 06:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Peppin Merino

Hi, I noticed that you have moved the above article to Peppin Merino. Given that it is unlikely ever to need disambiguation, this seems a little strange to me although I am sure there is a good reason. The edit summary mentions a standard naming convention. Would you mind pointing me to it when you get a chance. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 13:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I guess I need to remember that in other parts of the world "merino" isn't a virtual synonym for "sheep". Thanks, Mattinbgn\^talk 21:12, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Last notes on Lagaan review

Hi there, firstly, thanks for the assessment. I really appreciate you taking out time in doing so.

I did my might by reviewing Alien vs. Predator (film) earlier today. Since, this was my first GA review, I was not sure if I got it right completely. It would really be great if you can spare a little while in having a cursory glance my my GA assessment. Many thanks and regards, Mspraveen (talk) 15:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your quick reply on my review! I've placed the nominee template on the article's talk page now.

I want to ask another quick question. I was reading on the Good Article criteria the other day. It said something about what is not a good article: "Articles that appear to meet the featured article criteria should be listed at peer review and featured article candidates instead of good article nominations." Just when I began thinking of improving Lagaan a bit further and put it for FA nomination, I realized the above. Can you help me clarify my thoughts, time permitting? Regards, Mspraveen (talk) 05:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

) Thanks much! Relieving to know. I was planning to add details on the Oscar nomination and merchandise for the film so that the article increases in breadth. I hope to improve it and then put it up for an FA case. Thanks again. Regards, Mspraveen (talk) 05:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Domestic sheep

I thought it was a bit misleading - it listed several types of alternate medicine by name, then said there was evidence for several treatments - which implies thatthe treatments listed were the ones there were evidence for, but I don't think that's actually the case. Vanished user ^talk 04:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Then, frankly, the source is cherry-picking from the scientific literature. Vanished user ^talk 04:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

They haven't been proven in humans, and yet are being claimed proven for animals? Vanished user ^talk 07:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

More to the point, here's a 2006 cite from a high-quality journal saying homeopathy is unproven in animals: [1] Vanished user ^talk 07:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Unproven per clinical standards and ineffective for sheep producers are two different things. There are entire homeopathic manuals for livestock, and multiple reliable sources verify that a minority of sheep producers use such methods. That's what the sources say. I don't know what your little crusade to remove all mention of alt medicine is about, but it doesn't fly when there are sources literally right in front of me that contradict you. VanTucky 07:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I put in a compromised wording. See if you can live with it. ScienceApologist (talk) 07:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine to me - I just objct to saying that things definitely do work when the science doesn't justify this. Vanished user ^talk 08:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Battlefield Earth (film)

A lot of work has been done recently on Battlefield Earth (film), and we were wondering if perhaps you could drop by Talk:Battlefield Earth (film) and do a quickie Wikipedia:Good article reassessment for us? Thanks for your time, Cirt (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

Will you have a chance to help us out and do a reassessment of the article's GA status for us? Cirt (talk) 22:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, please, that's exactly what I meant, as if you were doing a sweep on it. Cirt (talk) 02:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  - Thanks so much, we'll start responding to the points you brought up. Cirt (talk) 03:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Domestic Sheep reference

How weird. I just checked and it looked OK to me - it's reference #25 Endangered species update July/August 2001 p. 96 which should go to [2]- p. 96 has the reference. It's weird because I was looking at a page by Wildlife Defenders but they obviously have a POV and the u.mich.edu link seemed a better source. Maybe refresh your page and try again?Bob98133 (talk) 04:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which closed unsuccessfully with 25 support, 18 oppose, and 6 neutral. Thanks for stating your rationales why I should not be granted this time and I'll try my best to deal with it. I'll look forward working with you. --BritandBeyonce (talk) 06:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Alpacca photos

Heyo, I have some more photos at home if you want some. Of paticular interest is a couple of headhots of the young cria seen playing with the bark in the groupshot. Viridae ^Talk 01:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Delayed RfA apology

I opposed your last RfA (I can't remember how long ago it was) and I apologise for that. I may have been a tad hasty with my oppose. Recently I've looked at your contributions and I realise now that you'd make a great administrator. Any chance you'll be running again? Take care, friend. Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 18:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Mutton Renaissance Campaign logo.png

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Mutton Renaissance Campaign logo.png. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 03:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Gay, tense and pregnant sheep

References to all the above added. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Missionary position

What's the status on the GA review of this article... Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I'm more of a writer and policy wonk than a reviewer. Thanks anyway. Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Jenna Haze

Hi. We have replied to your comments. Thanks. Epbr123 (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar!!!

File:Mammal barnstar.png		The Mammal Barnstar
		Thanks for your great work on Muskrat. Steve Dufour (talk) 21:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

RFA

Steven Walling/Archive 12, Thank you for your support in my RFA which passed 43/0/1. I would like to especially thank Bibliomaniac15 for being my nominator and admin coach. I would also like to thank Rudget for being my co-nominator. I'm sure that I can live up to the community's expectations as an administrator, and not totally mess everything up. Thanks again for your support! Malinaccier (talk) 17:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

a thank you note

		Thanks for participating in my RfA!
		Although it failed 43/27/0, I'm happy because the outcome has been very helpful in many meaningful ways. Your support and remarks contributed so much to this. If you followed my RfA you know what happened. Most of the editors who posted opposing opinions have never edited with me. Some articles I edit deal with controversial topics and with respect to a very few of these, editors who didn't know much about me had some worries about confrontational editing and civility. Since I support their high standards I can easily (and will gladly) address this. The support and ecouragement to run again soon has been wonderful, thanks again. Cheers! Gwen Gale (talk) 05:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Jenna Haze

Good call on the image switch. Dismas|^(talk) 03:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 19:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Mr.TuckyVan

- This is for having a good heart and being a kind and friendly person. Thank you, buddy :-) Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 22:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Article review

See reply at School shooting

Once again thanks, got any more advice on this? I'm dying to get this article more up to date and more up to Good article criteria... LOTRrules (talk) 23:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Pass the Barnstars, please

		The Original Barnstar
		I, Basketball110, on behalf of Wikipedia, would like to thank you for your numerous (over 700) edits to Domestic Sheep. However weird that sounds, your edits are still appreciated. Basketball one 10 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Basketball one 10 23:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Wine Newsletter/GA stuff

Hey Van Tucky, is there any update for the GA stuff that I can incorporate into the Wine Newsletter. I'd like to get it out sometime on Wednesday. We don't really need a full evaluation of all our B articles for this first edition but some write up about the Top 3 closest articles to GA status and maybe the bottom 3 would be fine. Actually something that would be really great is for you to share your thoughts on what should be a "B-class" wine article. Whenever I go through the category, I'm amazed at the disparity at what we call "B-class". I always thought that B class should be "really close" to GA with only needing some polishing-(Kinda like the assessment scale example of Jammu and Kashmir). Just let me know when you get around to that. Thanks again for your help. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 14:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna bother you again

How would I report a vandal? Basketball one 10 00:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Basketball one 10 00:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but my adopter went on a four-day skiing trip, so I've got to bother you once more. On my page, I have a vandal counter. How do I put it in the "Welcome!" filefolder I have (correctly, and without messing up everything)? Basketball one 10 03:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

On my user page, at the top, you'll notice a white vandal counter with red letters. I also have a section named "Welcome!" I want to know how to put the vandal counter in the section correctly, as you'll notice, I've got filefolders. I've experimented once, but I threw every thing out of wack. Seeing as my adopter is on a vacation, I couldn't ask him. Basketball one 10 22:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiAfterDark

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Thanks and photo chat in general

Hey, Sometimes I am snarky at you for things, so this time I wanted to say THANK YOU for finding that nice image of the Faroe pony, you are very good at finding this stuff, I can enter search terms in commons and come up with zilch (though I am also on a dialup at home, so images are s-l-o-w to load) And thanks too for fixing the commons link. You are A CHAMP on this one! By the way, many of the obscure horse breed articles have no images at all, it's been a PITA to find some, I suspect German and some of the other foreign language wikipedias may be hiding a few, but other than "Pferde" my knowledge of German horse words is close to zero. The horse breeds tagged for photos are with the dogs at Category:Wikipedia requested breed photographs.

By the way, there's an argument to be made for finding a different Shetland pony photo, as the one there is a bit dwarfish in the legs, (The one you found was quite poorly conformed, and the grooming thing isn't an issue; really, all animals spend most of their time in "ungroomed casual mutt" state, but when we show the ideal or standard in an artcle, just like with dogs, we like a photo of the animal properly groomed for public view) Problem is, the ungroomed fuzzballs irritate the afficionados and started the last big edit war over there, BUT the nicely groomed American Shetlands (of which there are several photos in commons, including the cute one with the three year old kid) are considered too refined and leggy to make the European breeders happy (horse politics are a pain), and most of the photos of "normal" shetlands (like the girl in the cart) are distorted or otherwise not great photos. (**whining**) The breed standard that I think would be non-controversial if there was a GOOD image, is basically a well-groomed and well-conformed version of the "foundation" shetland like the one in the drawing, something not too stumpy in the legs (which seems to be the flaw in the European ponies, the "sausage with legs" look) but also not too skinny (the over refined stuff with crooked legs is the Americans' problem), sort of like this copyrighted image (which would be perfect except for the photoshopping out of the background, sigh) this bunch would probably work too, especially that cute little jumper. Anyway, should you find anything, can you toss it up on the talk page over there for a look-see? Sorry to go on and on, just wish there were more free images to choose from and that I had a faster internet connection. Anyhow, this is a long way of saying thanks and that I DO appreciate your ability to find images. Montanabw^(talk) 06:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

image help

Hey, I just got the premission from the copyright holder to use this photo Do I go ahead and upload it and credit him? Bobisbob (talk) 00:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:WINE newsletter

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Issue X - January 31st, 2008

In this edition:

News & Notes - Portal:Wine is a now a Featured Portal! National WINE PRIDE will be on the line as we see which wine country articles got the most page views in the month of Jan-and you maybe surprised at which countries beat out the US & California. The Judgement of Paris it's not.
Wiki-Winos - VanTucky Meet our new GA liaison and find out what in the world is he doing with those sheep?
Wiki wine articles on the Web - A Graciano, Monastrell and Mourvedre grape walk into a bar and meet Carole Meredith....find out how an expert proved a Wikipedia article wrong. Also, our Sparkling wine production article braves new frontiers in the annals of rock band naming games. Plus, find out how our Friuli-Venezia Giulia wine article helped out Wine blogging Wednesday, what makes red wine red and whether riserva Brunello is better than standard Brunello.

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