User talk:Steven Walling/Archive 11
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Virgin Killer
Part of what was discussed about U.S. child pornography laws is correct. See the U.S. Code here. Sexually explicit conduct requires "graphic or simulated lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person."
To be fair, I will relist the IFD and let the interested party know so they can participate in the discussion. -Regards Nv8200p talk 03:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Batman (1989 film)
I saw that you disliked the article nearly six days ago. I don't blame you it was poorly written at the time. If you would please be so kind to look at it now. I want to hear your thoughts. Wildroot 20:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
But I'm a Cheerleader FAC
But I'm a Cheerleader is now a Featured Article. Thanks for your comments/suggestions and your support. --BelovedFreak 19:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I read about you in Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/List_of_reviewers#Philosophy_and_religion with Interests everything. Would you please review GA nominee: Matrikas. The article is about an ancient group of Hindu goddessess. I wanted non-Hindu to review it as a more unbiased review can be held and as I wanted to know if the article may be confusing to non-Hindus. Thanks.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
RfA thanks
Dear Van,
Thank you for your confidence and your support in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence. |
Thank you for your comments per the block quotes. Any other suggestions/comments you have would be most welcome. Thanks again. LordHarris 08:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Wagiman language
I was inspired by your example to do some GA reviews myself. The first two were fairly straightforward, by experienced GA/FA editors in areas I know, so I'm trying something meatier with Wagiman language. I could do with just two bits of advice:
- I don't like the referencing style that's used (in-line to short title, plus bibliography with long ref, but I can't find anything that actually says it's wrong.
- There are a lot of red-links, some of which must be fixed, but most are to other obscure Australian languages, which cannot be easily addressed. Is there any guidance on this?
Thanks for any help you can give on these two points, no great rush since there are other issues anyway. Jimfbleak 15:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Brilliant, many thanks, Jimfbleak 06:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter for December 2007
The December 2007 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles newsletter has been published. Comments are welcome on this, as well as suggestions or offers of assistance for the January 2008 issue. Dr. Cash 01:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry
I apologize for my behavior regarding the Mobutu Sese Seko article. I was rude for no reason other than you tripped over some personally-held opinions, which you would have had no reason to be aware of. Your behavior, in contrast, was both calm and forward-looking. - BanyanTree 22:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Invitation to GA Sweeps
I would like to invite you to participate at GA Sweeps. We decided it's time to give GA a good sweep to ensure the qualities of all GA articles. You recevied this invitation because we felt that you can improve and uphold the quality of Good articles (especially thanks to the # of reviews you reviewed as well as receiving GAN reviewer of the week). This is the reason why only experienced reviewers who are established (trusted) within the project should participate in this sweep initially. Please take a look at the project page to learn more about the process.
In your message on my talk page, your heading also included "newsletter". I don't know if you're interested in contributing. We're certainly looking for ideas because it will get boring if we repeat talking about the GAN backlog and Sweeps every month. OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- You also need to sign up a category in the sweep list. We will be using this edit version for sweeping because GAs are constantly being added or removed daily. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- For those that are on the list in the edit version, but removed prior to you sweeping, just indicate on that article's talk page that you went to this article and found out it is already demoted. For those that are promoted to FA, just ignore. But remember to state your findings under "exempt" section in your running total, NOT "keep" or "delist". OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
knock knock! a post-it note
Hi VanTucky,
It's been two weeks since you placed the "under review" tag for Punana leo on the WP:GAN page. If you're tied up with other things & wanna let someone else do it, that's OK. Or if you wanna go ahead and do it yourself, then of course that's good too. I'm just leaving you this post-it note as a reminder, just in case you forgot about it... Thanks! :-) Ling.Nut (talk) 09:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Witch hunt
Awwww vantucky, you are one of my favorite editors in wiki, did i ever told you that? i always read your GA reviews, really; but "Yamanbaiia's absurd and libelous witch hunt" ? this really made me laugh, if i ever start a band i now have a name. Just wanted to tell you that it was not my crusade but User:Dbuckner's; i opposed, left my reason, reply to one comment and that's it. Dbuckner went for the whole full monty making legal threats and leaving comments at the supporters talk pages. "Grow up"? er...because i saw a reason good enough for me to oppose? whatever, totally uncivil and uncalled-for. I guess we will never be GA-BFF now. -Yamanbaiia (talk) 21:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Nein, my feelings are fine. I don't know who Durova is and i hardly ever participate in the RFA process, and if i were to participate in your future RFA well...were there any animals involved in your edits at the anal sex article? i suspect not, besides it's not just a "he edit in that article" thing, but some OR diffs provided by Dbuckner that were nasty. Whatever, i'm taking a break -Yamanbaiia (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. I noticed that the above articles have been labeled "under review" for some time now. Might I suggest that you either pass, fail, place the articles on hold or remove the tag so that others may review them? (Sorry for the generic message VT, I'm really lazy today) Cheers, CP 00:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Regarding 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack, I replied on the talk page - the article has been stable since November 27, and the RFC issue is no longer - it's been withdrawn and the issue resolved. Cirt (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC).
- Just checking to make sure you know that the article is stable and has been for some time now? Cirt (talk) 20:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC).
The Core Competition
A great entry at Domestic sheep, I think you should be in for a good shout at the prize. (BTW, there's a typo in one image caption: "Sheep begin herded", but given the competition rules, I thought it would be less complicated to tell you and let you fix it.) Regards, — BillC talk 21:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Do you know what's happening here? I haven't heard a word about this since early December. — BillC talk 21:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, that was kind of my thinking, too. Thanks for your reply. — BillC talk 23:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Re: A favor
I went over Domestic Sheep a little. I didn't read it all, but I did some cosmetic fixes. I may go over again in a day or two and actually read it completely and work on prose, but I'm just not up to it right now. Good luck with FA. I assume that's what you're going for. It clearly appears to meet GA... although I haven't read it all, but I know your work. Lara_Love Talk 15:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
GAN
(Reply) -- Nah, I just thought since I left the comment pointing it out, someone else could actually do the quickfail. In this manner, there would actually be more than one editor weighing in on it. Cirt (talk) 22:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC).
Image
Why are you so enthusiastic to keep that fucking image there. Hytioplion (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting my RFA
<font=3> Thanks for your support, my request for adminship passed 62/0/0 yesterday!
I want to thank Snowolf and Dincher for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and since you are reading this, I haven't yet deleted your talk page by accident!). Please let me know if there is anything I can do to be of assistance, and keep an eye out for a little green fish with a mop on the road to an even better encyclopedia. Thanks again and take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC) |
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On that page, you noted instability of the page as a reason for denying GA. The revert wars have subsided so could you perhaps reconsider? Bakaman 01:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Marlith T/C 00:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I'm done... would you mind looking again? Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 09:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I have question, was I vandalizing the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fairy_tales I'm kind of new not real well I should say i don't much about how it all works. I believe that a book has been took off the list, because some people believe that book was not a fair tale, but will leave others on list that another group believe arn't fairy tale, but will take theres off. Now I don't think I was vandalizing add back the books that where took off i was just putting them back, but if you say I was vandalizing I will stop. Your friend Methos3H (talk) 14:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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Flock management move to sheep husbandry
Hi Van – Just to say it's a good job I agreed with this move, as blink and you miss it! Not everyone is able to look at Wikipedia every day, and to someone who did not it could look very like a fait accompli. Perhaps waiting a few days might be better? Good edits though. Best regards (and Nadolig Llawen), --Richard New Forest (talk) 00:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
Hαvεlok беседа мансарда 07:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Just a gentle whack with a trout
Hey there! Would ya please touch bases on talk pages with any major changes of horse photos before you go switching them around? As we say in my neck of the woods, If it ain't broke and no one is whining, it usually don't need fixing, OK? So far you swapped out a photo of a Belgian for a horse from Belgium that wasn't a Belgian, and then you tossed a well-composed image (and from Commons) of an excellently conformed horse with a photo of someone's ungroomed, toed-out pasture pet, complete with plastic feed tub in the back and actually mislabeled for color (both photos are of grays)! Yowsa man! 0 for 2! <grin> Seriously, I'm not being mean: I'm not going to be messing with your sheep article (which is getting better all the time), I made barely a peep when you made some significant improvements in the images used for donkey, and you didn't hear one word from me when you tossed a photo of mine that was in cattle (because the replacement WAS in fact better). You can be a really good collaborator and have a keen eye for what articles need, but we need to keep you in training wheels when it comes to picking horse photography! <grin, again> (though you DID find some dandy mare and foal images that one time, for which I thank you). Just giving you a mild amount of crap, and hang in there, but maybe help us FIND the images, because you are the underappreciated master of finding stuff in commons (god, I wish it was better organized over there) but leave final selection to the horse experts? Hmmm? Pretty please? With maple sugar on top?? Montanabw(talk) 07:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, boldness is good, me fine laddie, but sometimes it gets reverted! <LOL!> Montanabw(talk) 07:27, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, you don't have to appreciate my attitude, but when a photo is also mislabeled as being a "white" horse when it's actually a gray, well, that was yet another problem. I monitor about 500 horse articles on my watchlist and have better things to do with my time than revert well-intentioned but unhelpful edits from people who should know better. It didn't itch, so why the hell scratch it? And this time I was trying to make a few jokes and be lighthearted instead of being my usual snarky self, so give me a break, OK? So my EQ sucks, I was trying to throw you a bone. I'm old enough to be your mother, sorry that I sounded like one. Montanabw(talk) 07:43, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like we have a truce, thanks. My point about the donkey and cattle pages was just to show that I don't revert things just because I am some sort of evil control freak who hates change (I'm merely impatient, anal-retentive, and prone to sarcasm <grin>). I just wanted to illlustrate that I am perfectly capable of accepting constructive changes when they are for the better, even when it involves someone tossing my own contributions, and wanted to point out some examples to prove it, that's all. Anyway, hope you had a good Christmas. Montanabw(talk) 06:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Matrikas
You added the review tag to the Matrikas article 28 days ago and yet no review has been done.... M3tal H3ad (talk) 07:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
If you have an interest in an article that needs work...
VT, take a look at Gypsy Vanner horse. If you are looking for a horse article that is more than a stub but desperately needs some help, this is one. If you read the talk page, you will see that there have been some pretty fierce POV discussions. Anyway, I've noticed that you seem to like digging into articles with some meat on them, so maybe this is one for you. It needs cleanup from someone who can keep a POV totally out of it, and you fit that bill. Montanabw(talk) 09:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, also, consider this an invite to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Equine and Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse breeds. My watchlist now stands at over 700 articles, all on horses, at least 200 of them stubs, I think. (see also Category:Horse stubs) The scope of organization needed is beginning to sort of boggle my mind. Montanabw(talk) 09:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Costa Rica project
You had earlier expressed interest in the creation of a project for Costa Rica. There is now an active project dealing with Costa Rica at Wikipedia:WikiProject Central America/Costa Rica work group. John Carter (talk) 21:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
St Kilda
Dear VanTucky - many thanks for your assistance with this FAC, which has finally passed muster. Please feel free to let me know if you need any assistance in return. Best wishes, Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 14:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Korban
Will do. Danny (talk) 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey
I picked your name out of the GA quality task force list because I've seen your name around other stuff I've worked on. I was curious if you'd be into giving Yavapai people a look through, and let me know if you think it is close to GA quality, and what could be done to get it up there. A couple times I tried to get a rating from someone at the Indigenous Peoples project, but with no reply. You up for it? Murderbike (talk) 01:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's great. I was actually just looking at it, it had been a long time. Murderbike (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Footnotes
Hi VanTucky,
Happy New Year! Last week, you commented on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Red-winged Fairy-wren, with part of your note stating "To my knowledge, footnote citations always go outside punctuation at the end of the sentence, never within. If there are multiple cites, simply place them both there. Places where this occurs (such as in Taxonomy, Description, Diet, and Distribution and habitat) need to be fixed. Citations in the middle of the sentence looks messy and unprofessional." This of course is not correct. As I was not active at the time of the FAC, I didn't notice until user:Casliber had already switched out all the references, at your suggestion, because you told him they "need[ed] to be fixed".
The appropriate guideline is at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Where_to_place_ref_tags. The guideline makes it clear: "Some words, phrases or facts must be referenced mid-sentence, while others are referenced at the end. Frequently, a reference tag will coincide with punctuation and many editors put the reference tags after punctuation (except dashes), as is recommended by the Chicago Manual of Style (CMoS)." Footnotes generally follow punctuation, but not necessarily a period. I'm letting you know so that if you are "correcting" these, you'll stop. :) Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 02:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I really can't speak for Calisber, but I disagree with your characterization of what is ideal for FA. FAs are supposed to be written to a professional standard, and if you tried to stick citations in the middle of a published sentence it would be reflexively corrected by copyeditors. It does look and read sloppy, which is why it isn't done in print. Guidelines technically allow it, but they do not necessarily recommend it. You are welcome to disagree, and can keep it the whatever way you like (I don't particularly care). But to characterize my position as being wrong as a matter "of course" doesn't feel exactly civil. VanTucky talk 05:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Van, you're wrong. It is done in print (unlike what you state immediately above), they do not "always" go outside of punctuation (which is what you clearly stated on the FAC), and the guidelines not only "allow" it, they require it: "Some words, phrases or facts must be referenced mid-sentence". There's nothing uncivil about leaving someone a note when he is wrong. Telling someone he is wrong when he has stated the exact opposite of the guideline is not being uncivil. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 05:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Peer review notice
1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack is on Peer Review. Your comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack. Thanks for doing the WP:GA Review. As you were the GA Review, if you wanted to elaborate on the Peer Review page why the article satisfies all the GA Criteria, that would be helpful, as would any other feedback you'd like to provide on how to further improve the quality of the article. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC).
Happy New Year
Knol
Hi,
Quickly reading Knol makes it sound like a wiki, did you remove it from list of wikis because it's usually a single-scholar-per-page source? WLU (talk) 19:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Happy New Year! Here is the latest edition of the WikiProject GA Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
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Enrique Iglesias
Oh my! I thought it will never be quick-failed? It was not my intention actually to come to GA Reviewer's attentions but I posted before on the article's corresponding discussion page that it has no sources and it will greatly affect the nomination but it seems they don't bother. Anyway, I was not deliberate the time I came to GAN. Sorry for the editor on the article. Peace... =) --βritandβeyonce (talk•contribs) 05:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Merino
Liked your edit of merino, made a small change (Merino without a the in front changes it from sheep to textile) and fixed up a link to peppin. Charles Esson (talk) 07:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yellow sheep
Hi I saw your edit summary on the Black sheep article where you doubted the color yellow of sheep. I don't mind that you removed the many colors claim. But there are blond/yellow sheep. See here. I'm not arguing with you, but being playful in this post. I don't want you to take it the wrong way since it's difficult to communicate lightheartedness over the internet. I was trying to add content to the article since it was so small, and a lot of people assume there is only one color of sheep with the "occassional" black one. Maybe I should have written "light tan" or "blonde" rather than pale yellow? Would it have stayed then? :-} → GeeAlice ♥ 17:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the welcome. (No, I was never welcomed before). While I understand the Black sheep article is about the term as an idiom, I thought it was interesting to include that there are many color variations (I'm a teacher, so it was part instinct to attempt to lead others to exploration), but I understand staying on topic is best (from your link). I'm glad to see that you added the color variation in the main article of domestic sheep. Thanks! → GeeAlice ♥ 20:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Sheep science
I'll have a look at this when I get home but I'm visiting family in Britain at the moment so my Wiki time is pretty limited. All the best Tim Vickers (talk) 18:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I think you misunderstand. We're not (or at least, I'm not) in favour of anything like the automated peer reviewer tool, rather we're trying to implement automation in terms of getting stuff listed on WP:GAN with only edits being made to the article talk page, to make it easier to review articles. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 00:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know that's what is meant. I oppose that, partly because it leads to poor quality reviews. VanTucky talk 00:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals/mammal articles by size...'nuff said. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
Vkt183 (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)Thanks for the welcome. I've edited a few pages, mostly instictively--I have a sort of gut reaction to some errors. I think the worst is probably egregious apostrophes, but that is by no means my only pet peeve. Please call my attention to any mistakes you find in my editing. I'm hardly thin-skinned. Thanks again.
C************
So, what does it take to get blocked from conservapedia after a single edit? Its hilarious, do you have a link to the edit? Take care, Brusegadi (talk) 03:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I understand, their existence is painful! Take care my friend! Brusegadi (talk) 03:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Other sheep
There are indeed others: Barbary sheep (Ammotragus lervia), and two Pseudois species, dwarf blue sheep and Himalayan blue sheep. Don't know of any more, but there might be some (perhaps prehistoric ones?). I was in two minds about putting them in so I'm not really bothered either way, though perhaps they should be included for completeness and accuracy. --Richard New Forest (talk) 21:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Batwoman article
Hello,
you originally reviewed the batwoman article for GA class, which failed. I've finally been able to address the issues brought up in your review and I have renominated the article for GA. Although I realize you are not required to review it again, I thought i'd let you know in case you'd like to give it another look. Thankyou. Bookkeeperoftheoccult (talk) 12:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Rollback
You have been granted the rollback tool. Remember that this tool is meant for the sole purpose of reverting vandalism; please restrict yourself to regular edit summaries for edits that are not obvious vandalism. Ral315 (talk) 06:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Mouflon
Just saw your name at an RfA and remembered I hadn't seen a reply from you re my Talk page comments re Domestic sheep. If you have that's fine - no problems. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 18:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you SO MUCH for your support in my unanimous RFA. Take this cookie as a small token of my appreciation.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 06:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC) |
And thanks again for your careful and thorough reviewing. Jimfbleak (talk) 06:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Is up for Good article status. What is your opinion of the work been done so far to bring it up to snuff? Alatari (talk) 12:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Rudget!