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Hello, Philg88. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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GOCE March newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2015 Newsletter Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 21 people who signed up, eight copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: The blitz removed 16 articles from the requests list, and we're almost done with December 2014. Many thanks, everyone! Drive: The month-long March drive begins in about a week. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here! Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Biblioworm and Philg88. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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You're most welcome, I was particularly pleased that Britt quoted my use of "Sisyphean"—not often one gets to use such a beautiful word.  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Mensaje Muy Urgente

Hola Philg88, quisiera que haga cierta edición en German Guatemalan, y otras paginas creadas por el usuario Halias 23 y ElReydeEspana, aun lo recuerda a el?,no?. Es que el problema es que muchos usuarios como AndyTheGrump lo ha arruinado, una gran mayoría de artículos creados por el han sido tocados y hasta vandalizados, me gustaría que llegara y platique con ellos y coloque las paginas tal y como el las había creados, lo intente pero me acusan de ser títere de el, saludos--España (La madre patria) (talk) 17:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

And yes, I have answered this on my talk page since I got the same message. Also allerted per this [1] diff. Feel free to add to the discussion if you want to. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 18:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Well handled kompis. Looks like the situation is resolved via the block hammer. Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:57, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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@Jim Carter: Your knowledge of Indian geography is far superior to mine—do you know which Kota this refers to? Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 18:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. It was referring to Kota Junction. Jim Carter 05:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jim, I knew you were the right man for the job! Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I not only work in Indic sphere but also work in German related topics as well as American History & African American related topics. Jim Carter 09:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:Co-op: Presentation at Wikimania 2015

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A small tip since you don't subscribe. ;) Cheers, w.carter-Talk 10:19, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip off. Seems to be comprised of composed of interesting features ...  Philg88 ^♦talk

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Co-op: Mentor profiles and final pilot prep

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Yuan dynasty

User:Uniquark9 seems obsessed with airbrushing the Yuan dynasty and Northern Yuan dynasty articles to his personal taste, removing or trimming information about Mongol defeats and losses while trying to aggrandize Mongol victories. 3family6 TheLeopard PericlesofAthens

First he removed information about the Mongol capital at Karakorum being sacked by Ming forces by mendaciously insinuating that it was conflated with the Battle of Buyur Lake and that Karakorum was far away from Buyur, ignoring the fact that the Ming won in both areas. [2] The Ming sacked Karakorum in 1388 and took 70,000 Mongol prisoners. [3] [4]

Secondly, as you know, the Yuan dynasty consists of the Chingisid (descendants of Genghis Khan) and more specifically Qubilaids (descendsnts of his grandson of Kublai Khan) who held the title of Khagan or Emperor of the Yuan dynasty up until 1635.

Uniquark9 added Mongols invaded the Ming many times in the following centuries and even captured its emperor (Zhengtong Emperor) after defeating a large Ming army at Tumu in 1449. The high point of Mongol power came again in 1517, when Dayan Khan moved on Beijing itself. Although the Chinese held the Mongols off in a major battle, Dayan Khan and his successors continued to threaten China until 1526. The Mongolian armies raided the Ming Dynasty not only in the north, but also in the hitherto quiet west. The Ming Emperor Zhengde lost his protectorate Hami to the Turpans at the same time. In 1542 Dayan Khan defeated Chinese troops just before his death.

The second thing concerns the defeat of the Ming dynasty at the Tumu Crisis at the hands of the Oirats under Esen Taishi. The Oirats are a different Mongolic group than the Khalkha (eastern) Mongols and the Inner Mongols. The "mainstream" Eastern Mongols and Inner Mongols (now living in Outer and Inner Mongolia) only recognized descendants of Genghis Khan as their legitimate Khans (the Golden Family, Altan urag).

However the Oirat Mongols have no such requirement and their leaders like Esen Taishi were non-Chingisids. Their Khans were not descended from Genghis Khan. Esen Taishi fought against Chingisids and managed to seize power from them and become the effective leader of the Mongols. Esen Taishi was not a member of the Yuan dynasty royal family. [5][6][7][8]

Esen Taishi and his Oirat army defeated the Ming at Tumu Crisis. After being intoxicated with victory, Esen Taishi arranged for his Chingisid son-in-law Agbarjin to be murdered and declare himself the Great Khagan. The Mongols then rebelled at him for claiming the title and killed him. The Oirats were rivals of the Chingisids and fought against them [9][10]

User:Uniquark9 seems to feel the need to remove "Oirat" and "non-chingisid" as descriptors of Esen Taishi and his army, as if pretending that the Khalkha and Inner Mongols under the Chingisids were the ones doing all the fighting against the Ming. Esen Taishi and his Oirats were the ones who defeated the Ming army at Tumu, not a Chingisid. Considering the fact that this article is about the Chingisid Yuan dynasty that is a massive fact to overlook. [11]

Thirdly Turpan was not ruled by the Northern Yuan, it was ruled by the Chagatai Khanate so what does that have to do with the Yuan dynasty article? In fact the Yuan and Chagatai Khanates fought against each other and Esen Taishi himself battled the Chagataids. It seems User:Uniquark9 just wants to insert as much as he can about Mongols winning and delete everything he can about them losing. If he wanted to put the information about Turpan conquering Hami somewhere relevant he would have put it on the Chagatai Khanate article.

Fourthly he keeps removing all information about how the Yuan dynasty was finally ended- the main line of the Yuan royal family was defeated by the Qing dynasty in battle and forced to submit in 1635 under Ejei Khan. In 1675 Ejei's brother Abunai w:zh:阿布奈 and his son Borni w:zh:布爾尼 revolted against the Qing. The Qing then crushed their rebellion, executed them, and exterminated their branch of the Yuan royal family, putting a direct end to the main senior Yuan line who held the title of Great Khagan. [12] [13] [14][15]the Qing then placed the Chahar Mongols under the direct rule of the Qing Emperor. Surviving cadet branches of Chingisids who were ruling the Khalkha Mongols were then forced to submit as subjects to the Qing in 1691 after they were invaded by the non-Chingisid Oirat Mongol Dzungar Khanate under Galdan Boshugtu Khan (a descendant of Esen Taishi). [16][17][18][19][20] He totally deleted all information about how the Northern Yuan ended on Yuan dynasty.

I would like to note that he also followed me to the Northern Yuan dynasty article, and started deleting the same information there too. [21][22][23] If anything the information is even more relevant at that article. How can an article about the Northern Yuan dynasty leave out how the last Great Khagan was defeated and his family was forced to submit to the Qing in 1635? That is like deleting everything about the Chongzhen Emperor from the Ming dynasty article.

The factual veracity of the information was not questioned by User:Uniquark9 as this stuff is pretty much common knowledge among people who have basic background information about the Yuan and Northern Yuan. I provided the sources in the above paragraphs and there are sources on the Chinese wikipedia articles on Abunai and Borni. Everyone who studied early Qing history knows that the Qing put an end to the Northern Yuan and killed the royal family after their 1675 revolt. And everyone who studied Ming and Northern Yuan history knows on how the Oirats were the ones who defeated the Ming at Tumu and that they were rivals to the Chingisids. User:Uniquark9 is not even challenging it, not in his edit summaries nor on the talk page. He is just blatantly deleting it because he doesn't like it since it is about Mongol defeats, and he knows the information is correct. He keeps reverting my edits without any explanation.

Then finally, User:Uniquark9 goes to another Mongolian User:Toghuchar and tells him in Mongolian that I am a Chinese (hyatadiig) and that he should help User:Uniquark9 revert my edits. He is blatantly telling another editor to engage in an edit war against meRajmaan (talk) 04:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, that is because Rajmaan is writing from too china-centric POV. Even tried to change the name of Mongol empire to a chinese translation of it. He does the same attempts on many other articles, like vietnamese Tran dynasty. So it is our duty to warn other editors of people like Rajmaan. Rajmaan is chinese. Is it problem if I mention Rajmaan is chinese? Lol.Uniquark9 (talk) 04:58, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Uniquark9 is referring to this source edit as me trying to "change the name of the Mongol empire"- In 1217 a Chinese title, Da Chao (大朝; Wade Giles: Ta-ch'ao ; English: "Great Dynasty") was adopted by Genghis Khan to refer to the Mongol state, alongside Da Menggu Guo (大蒙古國 ; Wade Giles: Ta Meng-ku kuo), the Chinese translation of the Mongol name "Yeke Mongghol Ulus" (The Great Mongolian State), until Kublai Khan imposed the new name Da Yuan (大元; Wade–Giles: Ta-Yüan). This is what it said in the source : "Chinggis Khan did adopt a Chinese title called "Ta-ch'ao" 大朝 (Great Dynasty) around 1217, after the Mongols embarked on the conquest of China. This state name was in use along with Ta Meng-ku kuo until it was replaced by the new name Ta Yüan under Khubilai Khaghan" I fail to see how I tried to "change" the name of anything by adding paraphrased information from a source.

As for the Tran dynasty, I added sources which correctly noted that the Tran family originated in China and migrated to Vietnam where they continued to speak Chinese, which is confirmed by numerous western historians- [24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32]southeast asian history Professor Alexander Woodside outright refers to the Tran family founder as "Chinese"

Some people apparently uncomfortable with the fact sought to remove it, even from the Tran dynasty article itself. Uniquarck9 also apparently has a problem using civil language, he used the word "bullshit" or "bullshitting" at least three times on this talk page- Talk:Genghis Khan

Also Uniquarck9 totally failed to address the reason why I brought this issue here- his repeated blanking of information from the Yuan dynasty article for absolutely no valid reason. He hasn't responded to any of the things I noted above about Karakorum, Esen Taishi, Turpan, the conquest of the Northern Yuan by the Qing and so on.Rajmaan (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Rajmaan: Please take these content disputes to the appropriate article talk pages-this is not the correct venue for such discussions. You can always ping me from that context if you continue to encounter problems. @Uniquark9: I see from your talk history that you have had similar issues with other editors and have been blocked for edit warring in the past. It might be a good idea to familiarise yourself fully with Wikipedia policies, particularly with regard to reliable sources and consensus before making any further edits in support of unreferenced changes. Thanks.  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I set up a section to discuss this at Talk:Yuan_dynasty#Content_deletion, Uniquark9 is not responding when I asked why he deleted information about Ligden Khan and his family and instead proceeded to delete it again at Northern Yuan dynasty. Ligden Khan was the last Great Khan of the Yuan, and all the other Khans were lower in rank and from cadet branches of the Yuan royal family. And Uniquark9 keeps deleting all information about it.Rajmaan (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

At this point, Rajmaan, I think it might be good to consider a report to WP:ANI, because I think it goes beyond a content dispute. (Yes, it sounds like I'm passing the buck (and perhaps I am - but I've been a bit out of the loop, given that I actually didn't realize until I was about to suggest RfC again that RfC no longer dealt with user behavior issues, and I also think that for me to be involved may be counterproductive given that Uniquarck9's objection, valid or not (and I don't think they are valid) was reliance on Chinese sources, which I myself do on a very regular basis).) Another administrator uninvolved with this subject area might be able to better convince him/her as to behavior, and, if unable to do so, take actions. If that failed, request for arbitration may be warranted. If you were to make an ANI report, I would suggest keeping it simple: your complaint is not that Uniquarck9 disagrees with you about content, but that he deletes without discussion and fails to respond to your good faith efforts to discuss. Further, he disparages based on ethnic origin. These are the points that violate policy, not the content disagreement, as such. --Nlu (talk) 03:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@Rajmaan: I agree with Nlu that ANI is now your best option. A detached admin(s) won't be open to accusations of bias and will hopefully opt for a satisfactory course of action. Go ahead and file the report and I'll keep an eye on the subsequent discussion. Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

ANI has done nothing, Uniquark9 was blocked for engaging in an edit war on a separate article but he will be back again and nothing was done about the Yuan dynasty articles. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive874#User:Uniquark9_repeatedly_deleting_content_and_refusing_to_engage_in_constructive_discussion_on_talk_page.2C_telling_another_user_to_edit_war Talk:Yuan_dynasty#Content_deletion Rajmaan (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi there Rajmaan. So what do you want me to do? Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 21:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

He basically reverted my edits for no good reason and is refusing talk about it, whats the normal procedure for dealing with editors blanking article content?Rajmaan (talk) 21:26, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I suggest that you go ahead and reinstate the blanked content. If and when Uniquark returns and starts edit warring again then the block will escalate.  Philg88 ^♦talk 07:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Uniquark9 did it again. [33] [34] and on another article [35] with no reason or explanation given. Ceithe is also mass blanking content he doesn't like- [36] Rajmaan (talk) 17:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Rajmaan, I only just saw this (it's always best to start a new topic rather than continue one buried half way up the page). I see that Uniquark has now been blocked for two weeks and in the case of Ceithe, I suggest you report the editor at ANI or 3RR if you feel that action is required. Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 06:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

GA review for Sunil Kumar Verma part III

Dear Philg88, another GA review for Sunil Kumar Verma is in progress by I JethroBT as you can see on its talk page. But the nomination page does not say that the review has been started. Could you please see what is wrong and where? Or this is normal? Educationtemple (talk) 14:53, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Jethro is busy with a major new project. I'm sure he'll attend to the review in due course. As I'm in the mood for quoting things: "Patience is a virtue". Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 17:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

:b w.carter-Talk 18:05, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, probably I could not convey my question properly...! Educationtemple (talk) 18:02, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Good website @W.carter:. Educationtemple (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'll be AFK for a while now. I have a hot date with a pot of tea and Inspector Lewis tonight. ;) Bye, w.carter-Talk 18:53, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I trust that the date will be as hot as the tea. Have fun!

Dear Philg88, GA for Sunil Kumar Verma is successful! There was a day when I was struggling to rescue the article from afd, and you helped me in that! This article is here only because of your help. Thank you! Educationtemple (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Congratulations! I never doubted your ability to get it that far. Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 22:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I am concerned!...

Dear Philg88, and @Jim Carter: I note that admin Crisco 1492 is making unreasonable comments all the time! I see in the history of Sunil Kumar Verma that in the past also, he, along with some other editors, who just came on WP only to oppose Sunil Kumar Verma such as a user Inderneal (whom you warned once) had lots of unreasonable argument about UPT and DNA barcoding, and deleted Sunil Kumar Verma which is now a GA!It seems some of them is from Canada and they cant tolerate that the fact is highlighted anywhere by any mean even though it is now public in news in more than 20 countries and being discussed in scientific journals. I have requested admin Crisco 1492 to not make unreasonable allegations. Educationtemple (talk) 05:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• Educationtemple, of your 1200 or so edits, a total of 348 are to the Sunil page itself, and another 297 to his partner Lalji Singh (very suggestive of a single-purpose account). The third most number of edits to an article is to Vijender Kumar, at 30 (i.e. a gap of 267 edits); going from a DNA barcoder to family law expert is a very... erratic... jump. Afterwards all of your article edits are 1, 1... maybe 2. Furthermore, most of your non-article space edits have been related to Sunil. You may insist that you do not have a conflict of interest with these individuals, but your edit history strongly suggests otherwise. If you continue you make unfounded personal attacks against me, I will gladly bring you to ANI.

I have never said that Sunil deserves to be deleted. I've said that a) I am not the person to judge notability/accuracy for biology articles, and b) if you have a COI, you'd best declare it. That you accuse me of being intolerant of India and Indians is patently ridiculous, as you can see from my edit history. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:41, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

And regarding the deletion: read the appropriate policy. I closed a discussion started by someone else. Nothing more. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello. In the back end, I am working on many articles, this is the way, I work. Not like one edit here and another there! I do complete work and then leave it. You will see a series of article from me in near future and all of them will be written GA quality. Just wait please..and let me work! I may not know all rules and regulations and terms of WP that you know being a senior administrator. But, I am not unreasonable. Please note that the discussion(s) in GA was much longer than the article itself, and then it was promoted to GA. Any way, being a senior admin, I hope you welcome new comers on WP rather than confusing them with technical terms, rather guide them in a graceful manner. If this happen, I will loose interest on WP and leave it since I dont like to be blamed the way you are doing on my working style! Thank you. Educationtemple (talk) 07:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: I think you need to step back for a minute and look at the bigger picture. Crisco 1492 isn't making unreasonable comments or trying to put you off editing. What he's actually doing is acting in the best interests of Wikipedia and ensuring that the encyclopedia isn't full of nonsense about non-notable people. As for a conflict of interest, it is perfectly reasonable based on your editing history to infer that. I for one don't think that you are directly connected with these people, but that's my personal opinion. If you are then you need to declare it. You should also bear in mind that sometimes things don't go the way you want when thousands of editors—all with differing views and opinions—collaborate to build an encyclopedia. The best thing to do when things aren't going to plan is to walk away for a bit, have a cup of tea, then come back when you're suitably readjusted to the unique environment we all edit in. Best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 08:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear Philg, I am a person, who dont want to heart anyone even in real life! Rgds. Educationtemple (talk) 08:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: I think you made a rather unfortunate spelling error in your post above. Did you mean "hurt". w.carter-Talk 08:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear @W.carter: even in this tensed atmosphere you made me smile!! Yes, I mean "hurt" by "heart" Thank you... Educationtemple (talk) 08:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Yes, things heated up a bit here for a moment. I know how much you work on your articles and how much you have learned in a short while, rescuing two articles and taking them to GA while still learning how to edit. Why don't you let them rest for now, take Philg88's excellent advice and have a day off from the Wikipedia and when you come back start with one of the new articles you talked about earlier. Best, w.carter-Talk 08:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, dear, I am again taking my sick PC to expert! It is still dead! I am told that some data is not recoverable! Hope I will survive without it! Tomorrow, going out for 3 days. Educationtemple (talk) 09:04, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

A question?

Dear Philh88: I am leaving for a trip in 10 mins from now. Before, I leave, I have a question and your answer will determine whether I should continue on wiki after I come back or not!!

I worked hard - developed some article @W.carter: is witness how many human hours we spent together to bring them to GA. We both discussed many other possible articles and planned them for future. My question is once a person writes an article, is he only supposed to defend it all the time or other good, considerate people are also around to speak for it? If first is the case, I am sorry, I wont be able to do it, since I am neither an advocate nor relative of anyone here.

The DYK hook for Sunil Kumar Verma was "... that Sunil Kumar Verma was co-inventor of Universal primer technology, which allows identification of any unknown biological sample and its assignment to a known species source?" Today, one editor changed the word "invented" to "claimed to have invented" in the line which was part of DYK hook. This single word, which I think is not appropriate diluted the fact and thus, the entire article. I thought (and likewise other reviewers of DYK, GA etc) that it was no more a "claim", rather it was a fact as supported by lots of sources (some of them we have to delete during GA by @I JethroBT: during GAR since we thought that it was "over killing" and not necessary to cite all of them. I am sure Jethro will support this.

Also, the same editor left a comment on its talk age that the the line "This technology has revitalised the field of wildlife forensics and is now routinely used across India to provide a species identification service in cases of wildlife crime." is not appropriately sourced. I can see the line coming from statement of Indian minister from source No 19 in the article and backed up by news from national news papers of India. Why cant he see it? What is the reply to such comments??

Now my problem is that if I start arguing, everyone will blame me that I have some ties with the subjects!

Another article created by me Vijender Kumar already sent in afd. He is Vice Chancellor, which is the head of institution. If I remember correctly, this itself is enough to prove that he is a notable figure.

Are there other people around to speak, when something like this happen and revert the unreasonable edits done in articles? or it is the original writer all the time, who is supposed to do everything?? I am so sad, and feeling like returning all the barnstars etc that were given to me during last 2 months or so for my work by some learned editors here!

If no one can speak, then there is no point to spend so much time and energy here! Please guide me.

Regards. Educationtemple (talk) 20:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Relax my friend, you are only supposed to create articles, not guard them for all eternity. :) There is actually a saying here: "Create, let go." Once you have done the best you can for an article, it is best to let it loose and trust that there are many other editors here who will look after it for you. Some editors keep their articles on their watchlist for a while, but the best policy is to move on to new articles.

I think it is good that you take some time off. Right now you are showing signs of m:Wikistress. You are thinking far too much about your articles and trying too hard to make everything with them! Please relax.

As for Vijender Kumar, this is the first time I have seen that article. You made it when you was still very new here, posting it directly in the main instead of doing a draft and submitting it for review. As a result sooner or later someone will find it and see if it is notable enough. Having read it, I am actually inclined to agree with the nominatior that he is not notable enough for a separate article. I have seen articles about much more prominent people being deleted. I think it should just be a section in the article about the university where he works. I am myself working on a draft where I face a similar situation with another person who is notable in Sweden, but has to be just a subsection in an article here on the English WP. Have a nice rest now. :) Best, w.carter-Talk 21:38, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Here are some numbers that will put you at ease about other editors watching out for your articles. When something is changed, this registers in the "Recent Changes" which is monitored by a lot of editors. When I fixed your user page, this was viewed by 43 editors (check the Page view statistics, you normally have about 8 views/day), and when the editor made that big edit at Lalji Singh, this was seen by 96 editors instead of the usual ca. 30. Best, w.carter-Talk 23:40, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Our friend is right, you need to take a break. No one on Wikipedia "owns" articles that they create or edit and sometimes people will make changes you don't like or agree with. That's where consensus comes in—you discuss the changes on the article's talk page and reach a compromise that all parties are reasonably happy with. Of course you should come back and edit here but for now have a rest and return fully refreshed. Cheers,  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)