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Brisbane edit

I should have probably used a clearer edit summary, but what I meant was that before my edit the stats were reflective only of 2022 data (which had a precipitation of 2036mm. I changed the stats to a 25 year Australian BOM mean as cited in the climate subsection. I apologise for any misunderstanding. VickKiang (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately that article gets a lot of problematic edits, so I tend to be on high alert. Kerry (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Shute Harbour.

Hi Kerry, I recently updated the Shute Hbr Wiki as the info provided was extremely outdated. I am curious to know why you removed the text I provided which according to the Wiki history was tagged as inappropriate, when I think it was not only accurate but provide useful information. As a 32 year resident of the Whitsundays, and working as a local Tour Guide, I am constantly encouraging people to visit Shute Hbr and I think the facts I supplied would be very beneficial to those who would want to visit. Why did you think it needed to be deleted? Mr Patrick Wells (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mr Patrick Wells: There were two issues. The first and foremost was the lack of citations for the content you added and the second was the somewhat promotional tone of the information added about the new terminal (and it was a bit excessive, airconditioned lounge, etc) and "Contact the Whitsunday Regional Council for bookings and enquiries" which sounded more like what you write in advertising copy tahn in an encyclopedia. Please feel welcome to add content to the article but try to take a less promotional tone and please include citations. Kerry (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Your move of Template:RJL from article to talk in George Street, Brisbane

Hi Kerry, Template:RJL is intended to be applied to articles, not talk pages. There are approx 2300 pages where this is the case. Changing one is probably not a good idea, particularly as it will no longer appear on “missing”” lists. Cheers, John Downsize43 (talk) 07:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I've restored it. Kerry (talk) 09:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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for the record

I inherited a copy of wragges weather guide book from my fathers collection, and have a scan of the front page which I hope to put into the article - I note that the NLA has a scanned copy as well, thanks for your improving the article! JarrahTree 00:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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Listen Out Merger

What's the status of your proposed merger of the two versions of listen Out? Its been over a month.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I should have replied to you here as well as Talk:Listen Out. Short answer is that now you have done the good work of merging of the text, I have merged the articles. If you see any problems, let me know. Kerry (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Measurements

Hi Kerry, please don't adjust and revert any changes from the measurements, from GPO to CBD. They are based on mechanical books. They are what the accommodation industry are based on. The most common books being Brisway map books. These are used by the motoring and caravan groups to indicate national and international accommodation guides and literature. Thank you for your contributions across QLD, though please be mindful of the local values before editing. Some industries rely on the specific information. Usertodjdj (talk) 03:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The convention that has been established over many years is that places within City of Brisbane have distances measured relative to the Brisbane GPO. Places beyond that in QLD are measured relative to Brisbane CBD and "Brisbane CBD" is explicitly named in the location field of the infobox of places in the neighbouring local government areas due to some past confusion (probably vandalism) where some people chose to believe that distance to the boundary of the City of Brisbane was more useful rather than to its centre (more useful if you are selling real estate perhaps!). Being consistent is important so people can use the data for comparison. I note we normally use online mapping sevices like Google Maps for distances in the infobox. My edit was simply to bring Petrie, Queensland into line with that convention, as there is no rationale for it being any different to the other suburbs of the City of Moreton Bay as it doesn't allow for meaningful comparison with other suburbs in that LGA. Kerry (talk) 23:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
My point is that the industries, including accommodation, mechanical and industrial industries have been established for decades under that system. These measurements have also been in place for many years. It would literally affect the industries and businesses negatively to adjust that. You'll find it is the same in other Brisbane suburbs, like Underwood. This is also because people are still using these motor association books from not only QLD, but also from interstate. The information is indicative. Please have some understanding for the GPO convention where applicable. It would cause hotels and other businesses to shut down without this information. I work in these communities so I am aware of the community standards and conventions. It can be used in comparison to suggest that these communities are servicing motor related industries. It's not an appropriate time to adjust the measurements system as yet. Usertodjdj (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
My point is that these measurements systems have been used for decades. Industries and businesses, such as hotels, mechanics and other businesses would be negatively impacted by adjusting the system. It would literally shut down businesses to adjust that. It's indicative that these communities are servicing the motor industries. You'll find that it is the same for other suburbs, such as Underwood. It's indicative of the motor association and insurance books that are used in QLD and interstate. Then there is also Supercheap head office in these communities. So it is used as a comparison base. It's important and necessary to retain this system where possible. It's critical to retain the system where it's required. I've worked in and with these communities for decades, so I am aware of the importance and the community standards and expectations. Usertodjdj (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
If people and industries want to use their traditional information sources and favourite measurement systems, they are free to do so (nobody is forced to read Wikipedia). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it is not a street directory, an accommodation guide, nor a list of mechanical and industrial services in Petrie (see "What Wikipedia is not). Kerry (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
It is an encyclopaedia. It should be mindful and considerate of the local conditions when reporting or writing about such. It shouldn't override the conditions and be considerate.Usertodjdj (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Gurulmundi, Queensland & Gurulmindi, Queensland

G'day! I noticed while cleaning Wikidata that articles Gurulmundi, Queensland and Gurulmindi, Queensland appear to be about the same locality, both created by you. Could you have a look and merge the articles if it's the same place? Kind regards Samoasambia (talk) 11:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Well spotted! Yes, the same place! I will merge them. Kerry (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Done! Kerry (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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Ravenshoe

Hello Kerry, Thanks for your fantastic work on Ravenshoe - one of my favourite places in Queensland. Great to see the article rated "B". Gderrin (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Gderrin! I've only had one opportunity to visit Ravenshoe and that was some years ago, but hopefully I might get there again soon on some retirement road trips. Kerry (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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Heritage Registered School Articles

Hi Kerry, while editing school articles, I have noticed that you have created or significantly contributed to school articles with the Queensland Heritage Register, so I thought you would be the best person to ask.

While editing Boondall State School, I came across the Brisbane City Council Heritage register and was wondering if school articles like this need to be formatted like Queensland Heritage Registered school articles? For example, I have started writing the Carina State School page and was wondering if it needed a Heritage listing section, like what you did on Albert State School?

If so, would I be allowed to copy and paste the criteria or would I need to rewrite it to avoid copyright infringement? 2024 is Underway (talk) 22:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

There is no Wikipedia standard for how such articles should be structured, so I followed the QHR's structure, since its content was already organised around those headings, so it would have been more work for me (over 1700 or so articles) to do it differently. At that time (2013/4?) I had a long discussion on the Australian Wikipedians noticeboard about what I was doing and I showed people some drafts to get a sense of what people thought before embarking on a roll-out of so many articles (if people aren't going to be happy, better to find out sooner than later) and modified how I did things based on that feedback. So the QHR article format you see was "agreed" at the time. The Wikipedia articles for places on the NSW HR and the Australian Heritage Database follow a similar pattern. Now the Brisbane HR seems to have followed a similar structure to the QHR, BUT it's not CC-BY and their explicit Terms and Conditions don't suggest a lot of wiggle-room. This is why I have not bothered with creating Wikipedia articles for BHR sites (with a few exceptions), all I mostly do is add them as a list items e.g. Greenslopes, Queensland#Heritage listings or maybe add a paragraph about them in the suburb article's history (or other section where appropriate). So, if you are intending to write an article on one of these sites, I'd suggest using the QHR style as a starting point for the structure, but realisticially the effort of rewriting everything in your own words to avoid copyright issues means you are probably going to want to minimise your effort and maybe just focus only on the sections of the heritage entry that interest you or you think will interest the reader, which is more likely to be the history and/or the description (depends on the place in question as to whether it is more interesting for its history or its physical form) than the criteria for its heritage listing, so I don't think the world comes to an end if you leave that stuff out of the Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia article will have a citation pointing back to the BHR entry so anyone desperate for additional information can still access it. As volunteers, nobody can force us to write more about a topic than we want to write! And, as I say, you might prefer to just add as much content as you are willing to rewrite into the suburb article as an alternative to creating a new article (which avoids issues of Wikipedia:Notability which local heritage register topics may struggle to meet). Kerry (talk) 01:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, this has really helped a lot! 2024 is Underway (talk) 01:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
You're welcome! Please feel free to ask any time. Kerry (talk) 08:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Just one more question regarding this, would articles regarding the Brisbane Heritage Register need their own category (i.e Brisbane Heritage Register) or is the subject too niche? 2024 is Underway (talk) 22:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
It already exists Category:Brisbane Local Heritage Register Kerry (talk) 23:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
My apologies, Thank you. 2024 is Underway (talk) 23:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Generally, you can create a category if there are a number of articles where the defining aspect of the category is "lede worthy", that is, something you would usually mention int the first paragraph of an article. Since we normally mention heritage listings in the first para (as we use them to establish notability which also needs to be done in the lede), this makes a heritage register acceptable as a category. Kerry (talk) 23:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks again. 2024 is Underway (talk) 23:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
The name of the category (for which I suspect I am to blame) might be better renamed simply Brisbane Heritage Register. I note that the number of articles involved initially for a category can be quite small as long as it seems likely that more articles of that category wil be written. So you can't create a category Wives of Prince William as there is only one of them and no imminent prospect of any more. Kerry (talk) 23:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I did create the category, but I can see now why I included the word "local" as it was one of a number of Queensland's local heritage registers, see the Category:Local heritage registers in Queensland
I note that the heritage legislation in Queensland requires all local governments in Queensland to maintain a local heritage register which some have embraced with great enthusiasm (huge numbers of entries) while others seem to have yet to get around to it. Some do the lazy cop-out of copying the entries from the QHR that apply to their local area and call that their local heritage register and don't add anything additional. Kerry (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
In your defence, the site explicitly states that they are "Local Heritage," but I do suggest that the category be renamed. 2024 is Underway (talk) 23:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
I didn't see your two newest messages, I retract my statement 2024 is Underway (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, conversations taking place live do tend to have that problem. I am not insisting on the current category name, just recollecting why I probably named it as I did in the first place. But there is a reasonable argument for changing the category name if you want to get some experience at Wikipedia's weird and wonderful adminstrative processes. The guidelines for changing the name of anything are Help:Rename which points you to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion where you will see there is a "speedy process" for certain situations which are expected to be non-controversial, one of which would seem to be applicable here Wikipedia:Categories for discussion#C2D: Consistency with main article's name so if you want to rename it, go there and follow its instructions. OR a lighter-weight solution is not to change the name of the category but provide a redirection of an alternative name to the existing name. See Template:Category redirect by which the Category:Brisbane Heritage Register automatically redirects to the existing category, which makes it more discoverable. Kerry (talk) 00:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
I decided to just add a redirect to the category page (which I hope I accomplished correctly) instead of just renaming the category, could you please review it just in case I did it incorrectly? Thanks. 2024 is Underway (talk) 01:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
It seems to work. Kerry (talk) 08:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
oh good, thank you. 2024 is Underway (talk) 09:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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