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Is this ok to write history of a place/city without giving varifiable reference

Is this ok to write history of a place/city without giving varifiable reference? I know that it is not possible to varify 100% but atleast a major portion of the section should be varifyable, then only an article should be given B-class or higher rating. I have some data for history of Kulpahar but want to give some varifiable references to it before actually putting it on the article page. Previously I added comprehensive history on Mahoba article page majority of the contents of both these pages are added by me that is why I do not wish to assess these pages myself as I could give ratings in favour of my edits. I want to add some references to these pages then only I wanna get them assessed, but if only writing comprehensive information suffice then possibly Mahoba article could be reassessed. May be the above mentioned articles fit to be classified as C-class articles. --Rohit Saxena (talk) 22:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Message from Suyogaerospace

I have created a Barnister for Maharashtra potral it can be found over here

This message was sent by User:Printer222 as per request of Suyogaerospace (talk) using AWB. You recicved this message as you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Maharashtra. Cheers Printer222 (talk) 09:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Peer review for List of Indian states by the etymology of their name

Hi, can you please peer review this article. Thanks. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 23:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Christianity WikiProject Newsletter - July 2008

This Newsletter was automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 08:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Mangalore's History CE

Hi. I took a look at it, and have removed some linking that I felt was unnecessary. India and Portugal was used earlier in the text, and these are words widely known in the English language so they're not necessary anyway. I've done this to a couple of other links too, such as fishing, boating etc. Everyone knows what they are, and linking doesn't add anything to help the reader understand the text. Finally, I unlinked 11 March 1784. MOSNUM, rules for the raw formatting, whether they’re autoformatted or not), and MOSLINK and CONTEXT now allow this, and then we see what all of our non-logged-in readers see, which is just as well since there are lots of inconsistent dates and glitches concealed from us by the auto system. People seem to be pleased about the reduction in the sea of blue and underlining, and it allows your so-called "high-value" links to stand out. I'll take a deeper look very soon, like some other PRV volunteers, I do it like this. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Done, though I tagged two statements, one with "{{vague}}", and another with "{{fact}}". I just don't have the knowledge in the subject to fix them. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I also took a look at the article as a whole and made a few edits. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Mumbai

Wikipedia:WikiProject Mumbai Has been created please have a look and expand it --Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 10:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Mangalore FAC

I have added my comments in the FAC [1]. As for the lead, the last paragraph is choppy. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm a little tied up with a project I am working on. Since the FAC page is unwieldy to check it often, could you finish with all the comments. Then I could do a quick check and comment. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

www.mangalorean.com is basically okay. A bit like Daijiworld. It can be relied upon.--PremKudva^Talk 09:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Proving a site reliable is another matter Ken. How does one prove it reliable for use? All I can tell is the sites you mentioned look clean, are not blogs, and stable enough ie not hosted on geocities and such places.--PremKudva^Talk 09:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Terrific job on the Mangalore article

Hey Ken, terrific job on the Mangalore article. Keep it up.--PremKudva^Talk 04:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Review 2

I have reviewed the article and have listed the comments on the FAC. Please have a look. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:Mumbai

I can't think of any Mumbai-related FAs as of now. I will modify the templates to include Mumbai as part of WP India so that we can add mumbai=yes to the WP India banner. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

For the Mumbai-related DYK, you can add three more from my userpage: Watson's Hotel, Bassien Fort, and Acacio Gabriel Viegas. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey Buddy No need to say sorry

Hey Buddy Its my fault ! Singapore people held wikmeet like in form of picnic. But My intention was to do like NY people are doing good work We must follow there foot steps. Why didn't you deleted my reply? Its making me look stupid :P Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 13:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

_{Check my Famous comment on talk page of Mumbai!! it says ""I (Suyog) am famous for making my friends confuse!!"" you are the another victem of it}Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 13:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

NITK Image

Hey, I think NITK would be the right image to be showcased as a premeir institute of mangalore rather than KPT. NITs are comparable to IITs..--Crazysoul (talk) 11:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kensplanet, Thanks for ur comments, infact at present i dont have any images of mangalore, by the end of coming moth am going down to India, will capture good images and upload.NAvin Shetty Brahmavar 15:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Navin Shetty Brahmavar (talk • contribs)

I do not understand what is not clear in NITK image. Even the name is clearly visible in front. Whereas the KPT image doesn't even have a signboard. Moreover Infosys is prominently visible in the background. --Crazysoul (talk) 12:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Tamil people

Hey you had raised concerns about the length/information of the LEAD of the above article. The lead has been re-written with information removed and paragraphs written to be more concise. It seems that you are very busy with article/ Featured article but it would be really helpful if you can comment on the current revision of the article. Please comment and let me know what you think. Thanks Watchdogb (talk) 14:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey again and thanks for your comment. I have capped your comments in an attempt to try to make the page more readable. Do you have any objection for this action ? Watchdogb (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Mumbai

Copyediting should be done at the final stage rather than during the development. Since this is a history topic, portions would need to be summarized as history articles to tend to take an exponential curve (more sample time point nearer to today than at the start). I'll try and work that out once you are done with the development. Meanwhile, I'll upload an SVG map of the 7 islands, and try and source some pics. I'll also list some thoughts on the article talk page. Stuff such as missing content, extraneous content and so on. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi! Could you please use edit summaries? Its hard to figure out the changes then. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, its for all articles. It's a good practice, and many RFA candidates are opposed if they lack edit summaries. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Mangalore A-class review

Replied on my talk page. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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Mangalore FAC part ii

Thanks for your message, I went there, and find that you have already done the required stuff. If anything extra is required or not seen by me let me know.--PremKudva ^Talk 06:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

But Ken there is only so much we can condense the prose further to. I feel now it is pretty well written. Regarding the panoramic image, I can only show what is in the panorama, that is how much of Mangalore looks. Why did you feel it should be removed?--PremKudva^Talk 04:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Ga Reviews

Hey following your fantastic help and work with Santosh Subramaniam in making it a Ga, I request if you could review the articles Jeans and Jab We Met. Thank you, much appreciated! Universal Hero (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Erm...the quite bad thing about Indian films is the lack of newspapers produced about them. But I can confirm that none of those are blogs and are official websites. Thanks Universal Hero (talk) 18:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Mangalore galore ;)

Hi Ken, I remember your excellent article on Mangalore. I'll see what I can do for the new article. I might be a bit patchy and slow, I'm pretty sure I was last time. Anyway, I'll have a look, and keep on plugging away with your outstanding work. Cheers. Alastair Haines (talk) 14:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

Hey Ken, Mangalore has made it to FA status, I went to the status page to put my vote and didn't find it there, which is when I realised it probably was FA. And it was. Without your effort this wouldn't have happened. Thank you:-)--PremKudva^Talk 03:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the star Ken.--PremKudva^Talk 04:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! You persistence has achieved FA status for Mangalore article. Sorry i couldn't vote because I was tied up in other things. Keep up the good work. --[[User:Deepak D'Souza|Deepak D'Souza]] ([[User talk:Deepak D'Souza|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deepak D'Souza|contribs]]) (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

History of Mumbai FA

I'm trying to source some images of historic Mumbai. I've managed to get pictures of the caves (except Jogeshwari), and several forts in Mumbai. I've also taken a picture of the walls of the old fort to add to the page. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't have any Portuguese-specific information, but I have contact User talk:Gelo71 and User:Gabbhh who have contributed on the name of the city in Portuguese. Maybe they may have something in their sources. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Great!

Congrats! Your efforts have paid. I must say...Mangalore is a very well written article. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 13:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Well deserved FA. Thanks AreJay (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar too! Much appreciated :) AreJay (talk) 17:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Congrats dude.. for all the efforts that u had putforth for taking Mangalore article to FA status --Crazysoul (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

for the support and improvements to "Literature in the Hoysala Empire".Dineshkannambadi (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Good job , buddy

		The Indian Barnstar of National Merit
		I hereby award Kensplanet for his efforts in getting Mangalore FA status. Good job ! We are expecting more from you... Next Mangalorean Catholics ?? -- *Tinu* *Cherian* - 12:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations - your hard work finally paid off. ;) Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

How Did you got

Statistics and
My Contributions??

I also want them. By the way where do you stay in Bombay? I stay in Andheri (W) (My locality come under D.N.Nagar Police Station what abt your Police station?)--Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 13:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

In use

Just a suggestion: You can add {{inuse}} or {{underconstruction}} to the top of the page to avoid edit conflicts. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:19, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but we need to cross check at the same time. A topic from the Govt of Maharashtra might be POV -- for example they might not write negative things about certain Maratha rulers, or unnecessarily glorify some. I've listed some credible sources on the talk page of the article in the todo subpage. PS. Have you checked out Project Gutenburg? It has *tons* of Public Domain text of old sources that we can use. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Mangalorean Catholics

Thank you for the kind words. I would be happy to help by copyediting. I have little knowledge of the subject matter, but I see some Manual of Style issues that I can help with. For one thing, a recent revision of the MoS deprecates the use of date autoformatting. I can run a script to unlink all of the dates in brackets and to make them appear in a consistent format; it will not unlink dates that are autoformatted by citation templates, but those will still be acceptable at FAC. Do I have your permission to unlink the dates? I'll assume that you want the dates to be in day-month-year format unless you say otherwise. That seems to be the norm for every place outside the U.S. Most of the formatted dates in the article conform to that pattern, but I see some that are in month-day-year format. Finetooth (talk) 18:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio

I need to delete this pronto. We cannot keep copyvios in the history of pages. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

It would be PD if it were published before 1-1-1948 (60 years). From the text, I see many sources that date as late as 1978, so I doubt if the text was published before 1948.
If it were published in an official gazette, you can invoke Template:Indian law copyright. Some works are PD, under this clause.
If you do cite any free source (GDFL/CC etc), do cite the source and credits in the Edit summary itself. That is how we attribute in WP other free sites. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I deleted the three offending versions from the history of the article. It will not show up now in the history (except to admins). Yes, it doesn't but we can explore several options such as Maritime history of Bombay, Development and so on. I'm looking at the article in a different light... not just get one featured article, but a full series of Mumbai-related featured topic. I still dont have a clear picture on the history of the city, but once all additions are in, it should be easy to figure out what stays here and what gets moved to daughter articles. =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the barnstar. PS Did you also see Amateur radio frequency bands in India? When writing the main article, I was suddenly struck by the idea that the daughter article fork I created, could be spun into a featured list. So, I went about raising it to the FL requirements and ran both concurrently. PS are you into Amateur radio by any chance? =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

belgaum

i am not vandalizing any article...

why r u adding marati script in belgaum???

marati is not an official language of karnataka.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.200.143 (talk) 17:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar, citation 1

Thank you very much for the barnstar. I appreciate it. After getting your accompanying note, I tightened the prose in the citation 1 note. Looking at it afresh this morning, I thought it could be made clear in fewer words, so I plunged ahead. I don't consider derivations to be original research. You've given the source of the base figures, and your math seems clear and correct. You would have a problem, though, if Machado's numbers are at variance with "official" numbers from a reliable source such as a government census. If the numbers are controversial, you should make that clear in the article. I'm assuming that no such controversy exists, but you would know better than I. Finetooth (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

HI

Digging ones edits is very tedious work, I'll do it in my vacation. By the way I am studying in Atharva Collage. We can meet some day and discuss about Wikiproject Mumbai--Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 03:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes in few days we will meet :)--Suyogaerospace^{talk to me!} 13:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Please remember to warn vandals after reverting them

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Belgaum: You may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. --Kralizec! (talk) 14:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Review Request for Mangalorean Catholics

Thanks for your message. Overall, the article looks pretty good. There are a few visible issues. Ill make some edits over the weekend. Any sugessionts/issues will be discussed on the talk page--Deepak D'Souza 06:16, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnastar :-), but you are the one who has done all the work. I have just made a few small improvemets. Thanks for copyediting. ill make some more additions on the dialect section. --Deepak D'Souza 16:39, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply from Ian13

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I have replied to your message and would be grateful if you'd continue the discussion on my talk page. Ian¹³ /t 11:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply from Joyson Noel

Hi Kensplanet, i apologize for adding a picture consisting of merged copyrighted images on the article. This was done with good faith, and i was not aware that it contravenes wikipedia policies. I was actually misled into creating the image, after seeing that the main image on the Goan Catholics article was created with merged copyrighted images. This caused me to believe that it is somehow allowed under the terms of GNU Free Documentation License. I have to admit that i am not very knowledgeable of the image use rules in Wikipedia. I should have read WP:GFDL completely before deciding to go ahead with it. Regards, Joyson Noel (talk) 12:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, her picture would definitely make the article look much better, than Joachim Alva's image did. Joyson Noel (talk)

The Citation Barnstar

		The Citation Barnstar
		I award this barnstar for the number of citiations he adds^[1]^[2] and cleans up^[3] on Wikipedia. Enjoy! And may there be many more other barnstars to come. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

^ "India page". Retrieved 2008-09-25.
^ "Denmark". Retrieved 2008-09-25.
^ "MasterCard". Retrieved 2008-09-25.

:-D Do see WP:BARN Lots of 'em. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Black Jesus

I put the Jesus template back in that article- it's the one that the vandal had vandalised. I trust that's OK and that it was meant to go back.IrishPete (talk) 20:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Help

I apologize for what I have done and will not repeat the same in future. It will be kind of you if you can please help me by getting the total number of Goan Catholics living in Mumbai. User:Sanfy regards.

Maps

I notice two maps that you had uploaded.

Issues with them:

Highly compressed with a great degree of Jpeg artefacts
Second map is a POV (Kashmir)
Lossy JPEG format. The preferred format for static maps and diagrams are vector SVG format.

Since I feel that you would be needing high quality maps for your future articles, I thought of giving you some tips on cartography. Map making simpler than you think, as it mostly involves tracing and filling in areas. Would you be interested in some tips to create some professional-looking maps? =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, here are the steps:

Download Inkscape
Go through the tutorials (it will take you about 30-90 minutes)
For maps, you need to be proficient in tracing, and closed loop objects (shapes).

Things that you need to know in inkscape:

Layers
Filling
Transparency
Stroke
paths and Nodes
Fonts
Raise objects, lower objects, align objects

=Nichalp «Talk»= 14:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Ken from rewarding me with original barnstar award.User:Sanfy

Your ongoing GA Review

Hi Kensplanet and thanks for reviewing Charles XI of Sweden.

If you have any questions about anything regarding the article, then just drop me a note on my talk page. I will answer as good as I can.

Of course, I'll be monitoring the talk page of the article too.

If you wish to change wordings in the article, I won't object -- English is not my native language.

Fred-J 20:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Announcements

I'll try and add something when it happens. Currently working on the forts in Mumbai. PS Could you also add Vihar Lake to the DYK? It was listed today. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't think of any interesting facts on the fair right now, but I have a pic taken just before the fair started. See Image:Bandra Fair stalls.jpg. PS, the correct spelling is Bandra Fair, not Bandra fair. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bandra Fair

The hook is kinda vague: How about this? ...That the Bandra Fair in Mumbai was established to commemorate the realisation of a dream, that of finding a statue of Mary in the Arabian Sea? longish, I know. The article however needs a copyedit. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Charles XI of Sweden

Thanks for reviewing. I hope you liked it.

Fred-J 16:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[1] "India page". Retrieved 2008-09-25.

[2] "Denmark". Retrieved 2008-09-25.

[3] "MasterCard". Retrieved 2008-09-25.

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