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Richard Dawkins read to be a feature article?

It seems like Richard Dawkins has been languishing for years as a good article. The dead external links are now given archiveurl's so maybe you or some other appropriate user can nominate it for featured article. See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Richard Dawkins/archive3 for the previous aborted attempt from five years ago.--— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.65.109.103 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I had a quick look and it needs some work before a nomination. The reference area needs some work to bring it up to FA standard, such as names of newspapers need to be in italics should be done by moving the |publisher= to |work= field of the reference. Dates are in various formats –day first, month first & ISO–need to be all in day first format, which is appropriate for the article. Keith D (talk) 09:15, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now follow when pages are added or removed from a category on German Wikipedia. The plan is to add it to Wikimedia Commons and other Wikipedias this week. [1][2]
Administrators can hide individual entries of a page with RevisionDelete. There is now a button to choose "all", "none" or "inverse" in Special:Log. The article history will get the same buttons soon. Wikis that have done this locally with JavaScript will be able to remove that code. [3]

Changes this week

You will be able to see the references when you preview a section you are editing. This will happen even if there is no <references /> tag in that section. [4]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 January. It will be on all wikis from 28 January (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 26 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

There is now an extension called ArticlePlaceholder. It can automatically generate content on Wikipedia with data from Wikidata if there is no Wikipedia article. It will have a tag to remind the reader it is not an article and ask the reader to create one. The developer is now looking for smaller Wikipedias that want to try the extension. [5]
The OTRS system will be upgraded. The plan is to do this on 3 February at 08:00 (UTC). It will probably take 6 to 8 hours. OTRS will be down during the upgrade. [6]
Users will soon be automatically congratulated when they reach some edit count milestones. [7]

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16:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hull Paragon Interchange

Keith;

Sorry to bother you - Hull Paragon railway station has a template call duplicate argument noted against it. I have now resolved this, but unlike other problems (such as citations, missing co-ord's etc) there is no obvious section to remove which will stop it appearing in next week's clean up list (well, none that I can see anyway.) Can you help? Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I have done some ref tidying. The problem of duplicate arguments was the second entry in ref 52 which had 2 |date= parameters in it. The ref was also a dead link so I have found an archive version of this.

If you do a preview of the article then it tells you at the top which argument is the duplicate one and the template that is causing the problem. If there are a lot of instances of the template in the article then a preview of each section will narrow it down. There is a script available that helps with fixing these but I have not used it. See User:Frietjes/findargdups. Keith D (talk) 19:08, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-05

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Problems

Sites with a wikimedia.org address were by mistake redirected to the Wikimedia Foundation wiki on 26 January. This included Meta and Wikimedia Commons. The mistake was fixed after an hour. [8]
Some users had problems logging in and out around 22 January. Bots also had problems and edit previews did not work properly. This was because of problems related to the new component SessionManager. It was undone on 23 January. [9][10]
Because of new problems with SessionManager the latest version of MediaWiki was removed from the Wikimedia wikis again on 31 January. The new version this week will be without SessionManager. [11]

Changes this week

The page history will get a help link. This will go to Help:Page history on Meta. Wikis can exchange it for a link to their local pages. [12]
Notifications will only show part of a page name if it is very long. You will also have another way to mark notifications as read. [13][14]
The Universal Language Selector input methods are now available with the visual editor. This means many who write in non-Latin scripts can now use the visual editor. [15]
The visual editor will now give you more tools to edit tables. You can move rows and columns in a table and copy parts of tables to make new ones. You can also copy and paste more than one cell at the same time. [16][17][18]
The visual editor has a new warning message when you leave a page you are editing without saving. Non-English wikis might need to translate it. [19][20]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is expiring watch list entries. The meeting will be on 3 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

The rest.wikimedia.org domain will be shut down. This is planned to happen in March. You should use /api/rest_v1/ at each individual project domain instead. [21]

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21:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - February 2016

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23:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Laird

Hi Keith, I know that page this is Scotland oriented, (not Yorkshire!) but could you check that all refs are OK on this page. Leave all quotes in. Thanks if you can do this. Mike

Done Keith D (talk) 12:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Career stats dates

Hi, I'm just wondering: why do you remove the "match played" text from career stats tables? We're encouraged to include them per community consensus, as enshrined at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players#Career statistics. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:39, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Because I use the date of update rather than the match played date as I do not always update the stats after a match and keep the infobox and match stats the same. Makes it easier then having to work out who in the team played when especially when updating for several matches at a time. Keith D (talk) 21:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

But surely you can easily glean the match date from the source you're using to update the stats...? Mattythewhite (talk) 21:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Not so easy when doing multiple match updates, for example over Christmas, I usually just keep a note of the number of matches played by each player and then update when I am back. I do not go back to source for the update just the record I have made. Keith D (talk) 21:54, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Syntax highlighting support is now available for 53 more computer languages. [22]
When you get a notification that an edit has been reverted, the notification now quotes part of the edit summary. [23]
RESTBase is now using scrub_wikitext instead of scrubWikitext. [24]

Changes this week

Wikidata will have a new data type called "math". It will be used for formulas. [25][26]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is per-language URLs for pages of multilingual wikis. The meeting will be on 10 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

Other sites will be able to tell when visitors come from links on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites. They used to be able to do this until we started using forced HTTPS in June 2015. This is planned to happen on 15 February. [27][28]
Wikidata will have a new data type called "external-id". It will be used for references to external resources. It will be enabled on February 16. Some properties will be changed to the new data type. [29][30][31]

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18:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Shipley and Windhill Line

Keith;

just seen your amendment to the Eccleshill railway station and making the name Shipley and Windhill line into Line. I agree it should be capitalised, but I saw this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Queensbury_lines&oldid=615795925 and I assumed (probably erroneously) that there was some obscure WP that said we shouldn't. So the page has gone live as Shipley and Windhill line without the capitalisation. Which way should I go? Help.....! Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 20:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I moved the page to capitalise the article, as Shipley and Windhill Line, before changing the links in the articles so all should be OK. The one you found, Queensbury lines, is probably lower case as it covers more than one line. Keith D (talk) 20:39, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Roger that - thank you for the correction - I just wanted it known that I am not a biff and I know it should be capitalised. However, the Queensbury Lines is the local, regularly used and accepted name for the three lines that used to converge on Queensbury. Note how the page is not capitalised on title but the first sentence in the lede uses Queensbury Lines....... Thanks again. The joy of all things (talk) 20:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Laird – Erchless Castle – Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale

Hi Keith If you are not too busy, could you please do a "general" check of these 3 pages above. Always appreciated. Thanks58.108.249.112 (talk)

Done Keith D (talk) 18:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale – Henry Lascelles, 4th Earl of Harewood

If you are able, please do a check up of refs 10 and 3 on Albert's page. I have added much needed citations on the above page. Please leave all quotes in. Thanks as always. Also, another Yorkshireman, Henry Lascelles, 4th Earl of Harewood: please check the refs. are OK on his page too if you can. Srbernadette (talk) 01:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Done Keith D (talk) 18:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now edit pages on the mobile site version without JavaScript. [32]
You can now use the Math extension to write chemistry formulas. [33]

Problems

A few editors might have been logged in as someone else because of a bug. For security reasons everyone was logged out on 9 February. If you have seen this bug, you can report it. [34][35]

Changes this week

There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. The plan was to have it leave beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. It will happen on 16 February instead. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled. [36][37]
Cross-wiki notifications will be available as a beta feature on Wikidata, MediaWiki, Commons, and all Hebrew and French wikis on 19 February. [38]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

The search function on Wikimedia wikis will get a completion suggester that tries to find the right pages as the user is typing. It will also recognize some typos. This will probably happen in March. It is currently in beta. [39]

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16:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

df

this edit was necessary because of your edit. seems like the script needs to be fixed to avoid adding df=yes when it already exists? or, just make sure to "use preview" before saving, which would show you the errors? Frietjes (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Having seen the edit you made I have already reported a problem with the script here. Keith D (talk) 13:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

The New Adelphi Club

Thanks for your assistance on this article. As a matter of pure interest only, have you set foot in said premises ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

No I have not been in the club. Keith D (talk) 18:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Minor barnstar

Thanks for your help! I couldn't for the life of me figure out what I was doing wrong. I don't do a lot of edits (really, only when I end up reading something on wikipedia that I notice as being incorrect or wrongly formatted, or that I learn about something noteworthy and is worthy of inclusion), so you just saved me a bunch of time.

Much appreciated!

The Legacy (talk) 23:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Much appreciated. Keith D (talk) 12:17, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Phabricator has been upgraded. [40][41]

Problems

There was no new MediaWiki version last week. Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week instead. This is because of a bug that made saving pages take longer time. [42][43]

Changes this week

After February 23, you can use Wikidata for inter-language links on Wikiversity. [44]

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is Assign RFCs to ArchCom shepherds. The meeting will be on 24 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for catching the Google Plus thing with Death-Scort Service‎. I'll miss that annoying tag on occasion, along with some of the various errors that come with citations in Visual Editor. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:16, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Much appreciated. Keith D (talk) 12:20, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

You left a message on Useddenim's talk page regarding a broken rail route diagram. It looks like it's due to a bad edit on {{BS-map/map}}, which has been undone. Bazza (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Thanks to the Graph extension and Pageview API, we now have {{Graph:PageViews}} templates that can show pageviews for any wiki page for any of the wikis. See the examples.
The Capiunto extension is installed on test wiki. Capiunto provides flexible infobox functionality for Scribunto and generates HTML for infobox features such as headers and rows. It is designed for clean and modern infoboxes that are driven by data from Wikidata, easily usable across different language versions, and easily extensible.
The visual editor now follows the TemplateData format setting announced in November. When you edit or add a use of a template, the wikitext will be laid out in one of the two ways. [45][46]
The order of parameters and format defined in a template's TemplateData will be now respected. [47][48]

Changes this week

On wikis where the visual editor is available in single edit tab mode, red links may open the visual editor instead of the wikitext editor, depending on user preferences. [49]
Anonymous editor warning is now displayed as a warningbox for consistency in both the visual editor and the wikitext editor. [50]
Parsoid has been updated to fit some HTML 5 specifications. [51]

Meetings

Resigning executive director Lila Tretikov is taking questions at Knowledge Engine FAQ regarding the much talked about project. [52]
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2016

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02:29, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Files on Wikimedia Commons can now be 2 GB big. The old limit was 1 GB. [53]
Welcome notifications now have a different symbol. English Wikipedia already had this one. [54]
The Wikimedia memory cache servers in the Eqiad cluster have now been upgraded to Debian 8 (Jessie). Some users might have had to log in again because of this. [55]
It is now easier to categorize images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons in the Commons Android app. [56]
Bare attributes in tags now parse according to the HTML5 specifications. <pages from= to= section=1> will parse as <pages from="to=" section="1"> instead of <pages from="" to="" section="1"> as it used to. Please use <pages from="" to="" section=1> or <pages section=1> instead. This is mostly likely to affect pages on Wikisource projects. [57]

Problems

Phabricator has been a bit unstable lately. This should be fixed now. [58]
The PageView API shows wrong data between 23 February and 29 February for pages with special characters in their title. [59]
The parsing change mentioned above caused a large number of pages to break, especially on Wikisource. [60]
You may see falsely formatted edit links on both mobile and desktop devices. Mobile devices can also show incorrect formatted table of contents. This should be fixed soon. [61]
Templates using TemplateData that were edited with the visual editor might have some problems in wikitext mode. This can be fixed by editing and saving the page by using the visual editor without making any changes. [62]

Changes this week

Cross-wiki notifications will be enabled as a beta feature on all wikis on 10 March. You will be able to get notifications when something happens on another Wikimedia wiki. [63]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 March. It will be on all wikis from 10 March (calendar).
Wikivoyages will get the Kartographer extension. Kartographer will allow <mapframe> and <maplink> tags in an article to insert an interactive map and overlay it with different markers. You can add ideas and suggestions to the Maps talk page. If you find any bugs, you can report them in Phabricator. [64]

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones. [65]
The Wikimedia technical operations team plans to do some server work on 22 March. This could cause some problems, for example make it possible to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a short period of time. The date for this might change. [66]

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20:24, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Please explain this

Why did you make this [67] revert without comment at ANI? I have reverted you. If you have a problem with my edit discuss it with me. Thank you. Jbh ^Talk 20:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry and can only apologise about that, I do not even remember making that reversion. It could be when I was having problems with input and I should have been reverting something else on my watchlist. Keith D (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

OK. Thanks, I certianly understand clicking the wrong button, we all do that every now and then. Have a good weekend! Jbh ^Talk 21:33, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please Keith can you check the new refs. (number 31) on this page. Thanks 101.182.7.220 (talk) 09:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

The mobile web interface no longer suggests HiDPI thumbnails. This is to take up less bandwidth on slow or expensive connections. [68]
The search engine on wikipedia.org has been updated. [69]

Changes this week

Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 22 March and 24 March. This could be postponed to April 18. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. Because of a test, there will also be a couple of minutes where you can't edit the wikis on 15 March starting 07:00 UTC. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
Administrators and other users with advanced permissions will need to have an 8-byte long passwords. This change takes place on 15 March. Users with too short passwords will be asked to change password the next time they log in. This was decided in a discussion on Meta and is because they can use tools that can hurt the wikis. [70]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 March. It will be on all wikis from 17 March (calendar).
The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones. [71]

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 15 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are backlog and thumb API. The meeting will be on 16 March at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:37, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. The Wikimedia Technology department planned to test it this week. This will take place the week of April 18 instead. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
In Firefox, the visual editor would sometimes just jump down to the bottom of the page when you double-clicked on a table cell. This has now been fixed. [72]

Changes this week

It will now be easier to list IP addresses that don't have to solve CAPTCHAs. [73]
You will now be able to mark Echo notifications as unread. [74]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

URLs in the recent changes IRC feed will no longer be rewritten to unencrypted HTTP. This could be a breaking change for bots dependent on the IRC feed. This will happen on May 2. [75]

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16:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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