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Disambiguation pages on french WP

Hello JaGa, first, excuse me for my poor engish.

I work on french wikipedia for solving Disambiguation pages. Actually, this list is generate by using dump on wikimedia. We use a Perl script to analyze the dump but this script is no longer working. This script was written several years ago and nobody is able to fix it. This way to generate disambiguation pages list is not easy and I think I'm the only one on french WP to know how to do.

My question is simple : is it possible to use dplbot tools to generate this list for french WP ? we only need a list with the name of the disambiguation page and the number of links.

I don't know how dplbot tools work and if it's easy to do. I just ask.

You can contact me here. Thanks Leag (talk) 07:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

DAB Leaderboard

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I would like to inform you that my no. of edits in the leaderboard is not increasing due to some reason. Please check it once. YashPratap1912(CONT.) 18:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Requesting guidance

Hi,

Greetings,

I received a bot notification from your bot about linking a disambiguation page namely Islamic Reformism in the article Superstitions in Muslim societies.

Now concept of Islamic Reformism has two main opposing ends one is orthodox revivalism the other opposite end is modernist, and then there is a middle ones called liberals and progressives.

As far as author of sourced text is concerned he is referring to all the three as a single basket (without differentiating much since he does not need to) in this particular referenced sentence. " ...Zadeh says, the process of modernization in Muslim world, with its grounding in European colonialism and post-Enlightenment thought, as well as in Islamic Reformism, has contested and reconfigured many historical and traditional practices, often viewed them as being ignorance and superstitious..."

So I prefer to retain link of disambiguation page Islamic Reformism as is, even though I do not know actual Wikipedia rules in this respect. Can we continue the link as is ? Requesting your guidance in this particular respect.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 13:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Bookku: Potentially relevant to this particular question, WP:MOSQUOTE says, among other things, "Be conservative when linking within quotations: link only to targets that correspond to the meaning clearly intended by the quote's author." Linking within quotations can be misleading if it implies that the author intended a particular meaning when they actually used an ambiguous term, perhaps intending to be ambiguous. Unless the author has stated their intention explicitly, it is better to leave the quote unlinked. More generally, if you do intend to link to an ambiguous term because, for example, its ambiguity itself is worth noting, then see WP:D#HOWTODAB for the correct approach. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@R'n'B and R'n'B: Thanks for your valuable inputs. For a month or so I will leave it un linked and after a month I will link to dab page option and make mention on article talk page with reason. As of now article talk page is busy with multiple topics so I will do it after a month or so. It was very nice of you. Thanks again and warm regards Bookku (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

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Bot error

Hi. I just received a message from DPL Bot stating that I had incorrectly linked to a disambiguation page. I checked the page - Gold-ringed tanager - and found that the link is to the page Cordillera Occidental (Colombia) and not to the disambiguation page Cordillera Occidental. So in this case the bot did not work correctly. Just wanted to let you know. Adaptivity77 (talk) 15:37, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Adaptivity77: It appears that you added the incorrect link in this edit and then another user corrected it (after the bot reported it) in this edit. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 01:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I'm surpised that I wasn't informed of the edit because I am watching that page. But it matters not - the correct link is in place and all is well.Adaptivity77 (talk) 01:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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Request for peer review help

Hi Jaga. I hope you are doing well and staying safe during these times! Apologize to bother and posting a random request. I have just started to work on a stub (Fontainea Venosa)and had added some sections. Knowing your expertise, I would love if you can help me to review and left a comment on what I can do to improve my edits. Your bots posted a message on top of the page saying that the article had some links that led to ambiguation pages. I had tried to fix this but could not find a way to get rid of the message on top.

Would you be able to help me to provide feedback on this? But no pressure if you are busy. That is completely fine and understandable :) Hope to hear from you soon. The article is Fontainea Venosa

Thank you so much :) Sparklingkull (talk) 09:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Diocese of manchester

Evidence of link to the "Diocese of Manchester". https://www.manchester.anglican.org/acny/bury/624200-bircle-st-john-the-baptist

Hello DPLbot. I just now changed the page you told me about. Sorry for the inconvenience, I forgot about disambiguation pages. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sincereduck (talk • contribs) 06:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation fix

Hello JaGa,

I got a message from you bot about a link I put up. The message said that PSU needed to be listed as disambiguation, so I went in right away and included that in the link. Hope that fixed it :) Updatewithfacts (talk) 06:12, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello sir. I am a CA student and I have qualified my M.com from Banaras Hindu university . I love editing facts and figures related to politics here at Wikipedia and I can take care of it if you all give me a chance. I can't stop myself from editing these facts. I waste all my time seeing these facts and editing them. I wish to get a job here so I can earn something Ashutosh singh 761980 (talk) 17:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

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Betsy Ross Flag article fixing link

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Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Bots Newsletter, December 2021
BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

  • Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (Dark red X symbolN2 3 denied, Blue question mark? 3 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

September 2019

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!
  • Green checkmarkY Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · Dark red X symbolN2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · Blue question mark? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4
  • TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Wikipedia", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot [...] but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
  • Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request.

October 2019

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

December 2019

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

  • What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
  • What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
  • Will reFill ever get fixed?
  • What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway?
  • Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Bots Newsletter, January 2022

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BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.

Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost two years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.

Overall
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with Dark red X symbolN2 8 denied, Blue question mark? 2 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

January 2020

A python
A python
A python
0.4 pythons
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore.

February 2020

Speaking of WikiProject Molecular Biology, Listeria went wild in February

March 2020

April 2020

Listeria being examined

Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Wikipedia. Pages reachable via unified login, like a talk page at Commons or at Italian Wikipedia could also be acceptable [...] External sites like Phabricator or GitHub (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise anonymity) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it.

May 2020

We heard you like bots, so we made a bot that reports the status of your bots, so now you can use bots while you use bots

June 2020

A partial block averted at the eleventh hour for the robot that makes Legos

Conclusion

  • What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
  • Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
  • What's the deal with all those book links that InternetArchiveBot is adding to articles?
  • Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
  • What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?

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Signing off... jp×g 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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DPL bot question

Regarding this edit by a user ostensibly to stop DPL bot from tagging the page -- 1) does this actually work and 2) does DPL bot include non-article links when determining whether to add the template? older ≠ wiser 19:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

  • (talk page watcher) Bkonrad, 1) yes, it actually works, although nothing stops another user from undoing it; 2) no, DPL bot only counts mainspace links; and (although you didn't ask) 3) if that user had waited just another hour or two, the bot would have removed the template itself during the next twice-daily update. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:03, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:KYOVAWikiProject-Member-large

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Tagging DPL bot false positives

The DPL bot recently flagged an edit I made. I believe it to be a false positive, in the sense that the link's target is deliberately a disambiguation page: it refers further to two distinct-but-very-close concepts, neither of which quite matches the usage for which I added the link.

The bot's behaviour seems entirely fine to me, but I'd like to know whether there is a way to annotate the link so the bot ignores the false positive. If not, is it fine to simply ignore the notification, or is there somewhere a list of pages-with-dablinks that may mislead someone into “fixing” the link?

(Generally, I believe the “proper” fix for this situation would be to rework the disambiguation page, to introduce the general concept, and cross-link with existing pages about more-specific concepts; that's more long-term, though, and a lot more editing work than I can presently commit to.)

Thanks a lot for making the bot, it's a good wiki helper and does its best, even though sometimes humans are too complicated for its beepy brains. 💜 nicoo (talk) 15:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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Enclose tags

Could i ask that you could fix your archive page User talk:JaGa/Archive 11? Its currently falling under Category:Pages using deprecated enclose attributes. All you need to do is replace the enclose=none attributes with inline. If possible, could you also change the tags from <source> to <syntaxhighlight> in line with Category:Pages using deprecated source tags? Thanks. Aidan9382 (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Also please fix User talk:JaGa/Archive 10, User talk:JaGa/Archive 5, and User talk:JaGa/Archive 4. Thanks! Aidan9382 (talk) 16:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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