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Template:Country data Washington, D.C.

Good day, User:east718 & User:Jennavecia,

I have noticed that the aformentioned template has been locked for a few years. Noting that: {{flag|Washington, D.C.}} → Washington, D.C. {{flagcountry|District of Columbia}} → Washington, D.C. {{flag|District of Columbia}} → District of Columbia and also noting that "flag" is by far more common than "flagcountry", I suggest that we set the "flagcountry" call to simply be Columbia. This suggestion would preserve grammar by allowing Washington, D.C. to literally be the District of Columbia, (cf., the State of Maryland and the Commonwealth of Virginia). As someone who was born in US-DC and who has spent the majority of my life in the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area, I sincerely doubt this would raise any WP:NPOV issues. It further allows the District to be associated more closely with Columbus Day and Columbia in general. As it would only be applied when the rare user chooses "flagcountry" over "flag", I do not clearly see a reason to oppose such a move.

Thank you so much for your time and consideration :)--Thecurran (talk) 04:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? You want an alias added for "Columbia"? This entire post is confusing. Where do you see {{flagcountry}} or {{flag}} used in articles? And what do you want done? --MZMcBride (talk) 06:01, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the confusion. The area I cut and pasted was not nearly as illustrative of what I was asking as I had initially thought. I would like somebody to temporarily unlock Template:Country data Washington, D.C. so that it can be edited to make an output for {{flagcountry}} that differs from {{flag}}. They both currently yield Washington and Washington, D.C., respectively, whereas I would like the former to output Columbia. According to Template:Flagcountry, this should be an easy edit. I would have done it myself but Template:Country data Washington, D.C. was locked by User:east718 at 2007-12-11T03:14:13 to apparently stop the page moves that it suffered. At 2007-12-13T04:29:34 after locking it, User:east718 reverted User:east718's own edit to the last version by User:Andrwsc. I hope somebody can help me. :)--Thecurran (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And why should we have a piped link of Washington, D.C. to Columbia? لenna vecia 17:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping we could take advantage of the ability to add a second alias through using flagcountry that would read Columbia, because Washington, D.C. literally is in a district that is called Columbia; a name that represents the spirit of the United States of America much like Helvetica represents the spirit of Switzerland. In this way it, as a subdivision, will be grammatically consistent with our use for the other states. Like we say the person/team from or State of Maryland or the person/team from or the Commonwealth of Virginia, we could say the person/team from or District of Columbia instead of {{flag|District of Columbia}} → District of Columbia. It just seems to me that it would be more regular and clearer to people from different language backgrounds. I do not want it to pipe to Columbia. I still want it to link to Washington, D.C.. :)--Thecurran (talk) 22:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would seem this is a political issue, not a technical one. Though I admit I'm not particularly sure what the appropriate venue for this discussion is. :-/ Maybe Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template? --MZMcBride (talk) 05:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will put a note up there and see what happens. :)--Thecurran (talk) 09:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meraloma Club

Are you the admin who posted the pending deletion for the Meraloma club? If so, why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.20.172 (talk) 05:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As seen in the nomination statement of the deletion discussion, User:Camw is the editor who nominated the article for deletion. His reason being:

"Previously deleted via AfD, this is an amateur sporting club that still doesn't show notability. Requests to add reliable sources to show notability have been removed from the page a number of times. The current links are almost entirely to the organisations own webpages, but the two that might be independent seem to consist of what looks like a university essay (currently link 2) and a broken link regarding a claimed record held by a member of the club (currently link 17). I've had a quick look for sources myself but haven't found anything that I would consider to satisfy our guidlines [sic]."

Hope that helps clear things up. لenna vecia 05:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why change from JPG to PNG?

On behalf of the User who originally added the TXE4 Floor Plan to the TXE article, may I ask why your Bot has changed it from JPG to png? Mark126 (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What image? The answer is probably that png is of a higher quality than jpg, but some specifics would be helpful. لenna vecia 12:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the edit of 1502 June 3 of the TXE article, you will see what has been changed Mark126 (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DIFF. لenna vecia 14:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this what you want? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TXE&diff=294172980&oldid=293963186 Mark126 (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article was tagged as a badJPG which put it into a category that east's bot runs through. The file was converted to png (which, in this case, is the same quality), then automatically updated to the typically better quality image. لenna vecia 16:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I understand now and will pass that information on to the original creator of the image. I found your "sigh" and curt reference to WP:DIFF surprising. I am obviously not as experienced a Wikipedia user as you are, did not realise what was required and would have appreciated a more courteous response from you. Mark126 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the curtness. When you request things of others, it's typically best to provide them with the link to whatever it is you're referencing. In this case, you did not even include a link to the image. Expecting people to go searching through page histories for what you're talking about often receives no response at all. لenna vecia 18:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Max B

Hi. What's the deal with Max B? I wasn't aware of any prior AfD on it or other proposal to delete. Did I miss something? Was it deleted under a different name in the past? I agree that notability was pretty marginal, and that there was a lot of completely moronic vandalism going on, but there were also sources showing at least some degree of notability. I had a go at tidying it up some time back and since then there have been good and bad edits. Unfortunately a lot of edits concerned the discography, which I couldn't verify, so that may have been way off without me knowing. Anyway, this is not to contest what you did, just to ask what the process was. Regards. --DanielRigal (talk) 12:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I am unable to help with this one. لenna vecia 06:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max B; not much changed since the last deleted version except for the addition of a list of Max B's mixtapes and albums on Amalgam Digital. Normally I'd just look the other way but there was some really unseemly stuff relating to his ongoing murder trial going on, so I just deleted the article outright to prevent further problems. — east718 | talk | 17:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

718 bot

Hi East,

On WP:DABS, the bot is no longer working properly. It hasn't excluded birds from the dinosaur list since January. See User:718_Bot/DABS. Although technically birds are dinosaurs, we'd like to exclude birds from this list, as there's already a separate bird list. It didn't matter so much for a few months, but yesterday when I went to update italics on article titles, it became a problem. We also use the list to identify problematic (very short, usually unreferenced) new dinosaur stubs, identify articles which have reached a size comparable to the Featured or Good dinosaur articles, etc. Can this be fixed? Firsfron of Ronchester 19:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll text message east about this tomorrow afternoon, to hopefully get his attention on it sooner rather than later. لenna vecia 06:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Jenn. Firsfron of Ronchester 06:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Firsfron - I've known about this bug for a while, and unfortunately it's non-trivial to fix. I don't have the time to fix it and get the bot back up running at the moment, so it might be a good idea to throw the source code to a Python-oriented person -- maybe bjweeks, MZMcBride, or the people that hang out at wp:botreq? Sorry for being so useless in the meantime. — east718 | talk | 17:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response, East. I'll ask around this weekend. I'd love to get the page up and running again. Firsfron of Ronchester 08:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I asked BJ and MZ. BJ is looking at it now. If he's not able to work it out, I'll drop a message on WT:BOTREQ for you. لenna vecia 12:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:HipThrow.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:HipThrow.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 14:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image re-licensed to CC-BY-SA. لenna vecia 12:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zab Judah

Hey man where did you get those pictures? Showtime2009 (talk) 19:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

I have been contributing to Wikipedia for about two years now, many of my articles don't have pictures, what is the process to getting pictures approved and added? thanks. Do you have one for Victor Ortíz? Jesusmariajalisco (talk) 20:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:IMAGES. We only use freely licensed images with the exception of cases of fair use. Many times, images can be found on http://flickr.com. Be sure to include all available information with your uploads. لenna vecia 12:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boxers images

Well done on sourcing them!--Vintagekits (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Undelete Starkweather (band)

Hello East, you had deleted 27 versions of Starkweather (band) with reason of Nonnotable band. But the subject was revived and the article seems to have no problem now. Request you to restore the deleted versions. Jay (talk) 10:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The band is not notable and the article should not have been recreated. لenna vecia 12:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Kathryn White's Wikipedia Page

[edit] Deletion of Page relating to Kathryn White Can you please restore the page that you deleted for Kathryn White, the English Children's Author.

Kathryn has published over twenty Children's stories here in the UK, and in 2006 her title "Here Comes the Crocodile" was shortlisted for two prestigous awards, The Sheffield Children's Book Award and the Nottingham Children's Book Award. Kathryn is also a regular contributor to the major literary festivals in the UK and will be appearing at the Edinburgh Festival for the second time in August this year.

Kathryn was originally referenced by one of her illustrators, Cliff Wright - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Wright and this prompted her family to try to create a Wikipedia page to chronicle Kathryn's achievements. In this we were able to enlist the kind help of the seasoned Wikipedia contributor Pradiptaray - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pradiptaray

Apologies if in some way we have failed to follow the Wikipedia rules for external references. Most of Kathryn's publications were listed on her page, but perhaps more links were needed?

Kathryn is an active member of several Authors Societies here in the UK, including the Society of Authors and the Scattered Authors Society, and was featured on the list of British Children's Authors.

I have looked into the notability guidelines, which say in relation to authors -

Authors What authors get their own articles? Probably almost all non-self-published authors, per bio guidelines that specify Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more

And Kathryn clearly satisfies these criteria. Here Comes the Crocodile alone sold over 25,000 copies worldwide, and kathryn's first book, When They Fight, was published in a dozen languages across the globe, from Japanese and Korean in the East to Danish and Finish in the West.

Can you please restore this page so that we can continue the process of developing the content and links.

With thanks in anticipation

Dave White Bristol, England

81.86.56.65 (talk) 18:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article was moved to the title Kathryn White (author) at some point. Under that title, it was proposed for deletion as being non-notable. east later deleted Kathryn White as a redirected to a deleted page. Regardless, as it was deleted as non-notable, to be restored, notability needs to be established. I'll look for some reliable sources, as you have provided none. لenna vecia 18:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Establishing notability

Below I'll address each claim in relation to our notability guideline, specifically, WP:CREATIVE which applies to authors.

20 published works must be "significant or well-known" as shown in reliable, third-party sources, independent of the subject.
Shortlisted for the Nottingham Children's Book Award (2005) and the Sheffield Children's Book Award (2005) is not a claim to notability, I don't think, unless the awards themselves are notable. I'll double check.
Participation in the Edinburgh Festival is probably not a claim to notability, but I'll double check. If so, we need a reliable source to verify this, which I have not been able to find.
An active member of the Society of Authors and the Scattered Authors Society is not a claim to notability, as they are trade unions.
Featured on the list of British Children's Authors is also not a claim to notability for Wikipedia's inclusion criteria.
Here Comes the Crocodile and When They Fight may establish her notability if they meet the notability requirements of Wikipedia:Notability (books).

Also worth noting that there were BLP (biographies of living people) violations in the history of the article. Such issues are why we must take great care with hosting biographies of living people on our project, as anyone may edit them. I will, however, continue to look into the above to determine what level of notability can be established. Please provide any sources you can that may lend to her notability. لenna vecia 18:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything that Lara said. I also think that the number of red links in this area is indicative. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sloppy

What would lead you to believe that my previous account was that of a banned user? In fact, I had never been banned before this incident, and was using a throwaway user (as I am here) to commentate on that one topic, because there is nothing to gain by using my main account on such a topic. That's probably why the article in question is ridden with nothing but established hysterics, industry sycophants and throwaway pseud users with less palletable agendas. Yaccinthe (talk) 10:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

east is away from the project and I have no idea what you're talking about. لenna vecia 14:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright & fair-use rationale of SVGified logo

You are invited to participate in an interesting discussion at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#File:Man Utd FC .svg. Your comments & suggestions are very much appreciated Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 08:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Borland Turbo C 1.0

I saw that you made that screenshot of Turbo C 1.0 on here - I was wondering if you could let me have a copy of it, please? I've been looking for it for a few years now and have never found it.

I want it to look at and use with my Amstrad PPC-512, which can only use 720K diskettes.

Thanks. marktuson 18:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marktuson (talk • contribs)

Forest Park (Portland, Oregon)

The page got moved, so I think you want to protect the other one? Katr67 (talk) 00:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]