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October lichen task force newsletter

<--- Previous issue | Next issue ---> | Tip Line SYMBIOSIS: The lichen task force newsletter — October 2022 A look at what we've accomplished, working together
As a subset of WP:FUNGI, the lichen task force is working to improve coverage of the world's lichens – unique organisms composed of one or more fungal partners with one or more photosynthetic partners. A growing body of evidence suggests that some of the roughly 1000 secondary metabolites produced by various lichens may prove instrumental in our ongoing battle against harmful pathogens. Want to learn more? Join us!	Articles of note Esculenta has nominated two articles for GA: Solorina crocea Verrucariaceae – a family of mostly lichenized fungi found primarily on rocks and soil in the Northern Hemisphere Solorina crocea – also known as "orange chocolate chip lichen", this was one of the first lichen species to be formally scientifically described
Project news It's been another busy month for the task force. Among the accomplishments: We've tagged another 700 articles, categories and templates as being under the purview of the task force. Importance levels have now been set for nearly all of the task force's articles. Thousands of articles have been tagged with lichen class/order/genus/species categories as appropriate. Work has continued on converting those articles which still using old "taxobox" templates to the newer automatic taxobox and speciesbox templates. There are now fewer than 95 left to modify. MerielGJones has created articles for a number of important lichenologists, including James D. Lawrey, Thomas George Allan Green, Pier Luigi Nimis, Hannes Hertel, Ludger Kappen, and Christian Leuckert. Esculenta added one for Georges Clauzade. Dozens of articles have been created for genera and species of lichen and lichenicolous fungi. The outline of lichens is now almost completely referenced. Work has continued on the Draft:Glossary of lichen terms, which will hopefully be ready to move into main space within the month.
Lichen news A recent study strongly suggests that industrial forestry, along with the introduction of nitrogen, is the main cause of lichen declines in Norway spruce forests. This decline has resulted in "cascading effects on biodiversity and function of boreal forest canopies", according to the study's authors.
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Dr vulpes,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

Suggestions:

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Dr vulpes,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Dr vulpes,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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Happy Christmas

	Merry Christmas, Dr vulpes
	or whatever else you may celebrate at this time of year. Thank you for all your work on Wikipedia throughout the year and may 2024 prove to be a happy and successful year for you and your family Josey Wales Parley 22:06, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Congrats on your adminship!

Congratulations on your election. You have literally contributed too much by some standards in WP:PERM on your first day. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 09:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

• Congrats! Andre🚐 22:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks☺️ @Bunnypranav and @Andrevan. Wish I could do more but this is just a super busy time of the year at work for me. Dr vulpes (Talk) 19:24, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

A Smile for you!

Hello Dr vulpes, Cooldudeseven7 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 12:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks ☺️Dr vulpes (Talk) 19:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

No Problem Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 04:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from LetMeWrite4U (10:45, 23 November 2024)

I have written a Christmas Play but don't have $ to publish it. I have several publishing companies interested, but don't have the money they are requesting I pay upfront. --LetMeWrite4U (talk) 10:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

@LetMeWrite4U (talk page watcher) I don't understand. If your work gets published, wouldn't you be the one getting paid through royalties? I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey @LetMeWrite4U, sorry I'm not familiar with this kind of publishing. I've published academic articles in the past but that's very different than the kind of work you're doing. Best of luck in finding a place to publish your material. Dr vulpes (Talk) 19:22, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Therguy10 (17:13, 25 November 2024)

Hey! I am currently editing various articles, mainly focused on amusement parks and roller coasters. I've recently discovered an article (Glenwood Caverns amusement park) that needs some serious help. I updated a chunk of it to make it better but so much of its information is outdated and inaccurate. Where would I go to get help and advice with this and other projects?

I've tried the Amusement Park Wiki-page group but it's been dormant when I tried requesting help previously, and it seems to be only used occasionally. --Therguy10 (talk) 17:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from OldMiakka47 (17:19, 26 November 2024)

Hello, I am reaching out to ask about some recent additions that I've added to a few pages on Thanksgiving. My additions have been changed our outright deleted. I am concerned that most of the edits to my additions were done not for stylistic reasons (although one appears to be for that reason); but for whatever reason I cannot determine. Since I did not receive any messages from anyone about my additions I am hopeful that you can please provide some guidance. To be clear I am not casting aspersions on anyone's motives on their edits to my additions. However, I am just trying to better understand how I can appropriately add the cited and resource linked information. Thank you in advance for your expert response. Respectfully, --OldMiakka47 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @OldMiakka47, so part of the problem is that you're adding references to articles as links instead of formatting them as a reference. Read this help page and try to add your references again. Help:VisualEditor#Adding_a_new_reference Dr vulpes (Talk) 21:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Dr. Vulpes. I appreciate your response. I am still a little confused since my initial additions were direct quotes from sources I cited. However, as far as external links I'll review the Help page you referenced for further guidance. Thanks again for your assistance and if you have any additional guidance on the above issue it would be greatly appreciated. OldMiakka47 (talk) 23:23, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from JP Mishra 0739 (10:28, 7 December 2024)

hello , sir i have an article in my sandbox can you help me to publish it in main space

https://w.wiki/CDA$ --JP Mishra 0739 (talk) 10:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

November 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

		Citation Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to Dr vulpes for collecting more than 8.0 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's NOV24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing over 8,000 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 18:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Question from Royale kk (17:50, 17 December 2024)

Sir, I don't know how to create a article, can you please help me with that.

                 Thank you, --Royale kk (talk) 17:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive

January 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol
On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Each article review will earn 1 point, while each redirect review will earn 0.2 points. Streak awards will be given out based on consistently hitting point thresholds for each week of the drive. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Question from JP Mishra 0739 (05:55, 21 December 2024)

I hope you're doing well. I recently created a Wikipedia page titled "Ankur Malik", and it has been more than 20 days since its publication. However, it is still not appearing in Google search results. I have ensured that the page complies with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

I suspect there might be an issue with indexing or something else that I might have overlooked. Could you please help me identify if there’s anything that needs to be fixed or optimized for the page to appear in search results?

Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time and support! --JP Mishra 0739 (talk) 05:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Top AfC Editor

		The Articles for Creation Barnstar 2024 Top Editor
		In 2024 you were one of the top AfC editors, thank you! --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Question from Giorgio Fabretti on Talk:Druidry (modern) (09:54, 30 December 2024)

Hallo mentor. Was I right in editing my previous article about Modern Druidry, about a few grammar mistakes? --Giorgio Fabretti (talk) 09:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from Lollywood.pk (08:59, 7 January 2025)

Hi! Bro --Lollywood.pk (talk) 08:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

NPP Awards for 2024

		The New Page Reviewer's NPP Barnstar Award
		This award is given in recognition to Dr vulpes for conducting 316 article reviews in 2024. Thank you so much for all your excellent work. Keep it up! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

		Redirect Ninja Award
		This award is given in recognition to Dr vulpes for conducting 6,955 redirect reviews in 2024. Thank you so much for all your excellent work, keep it up! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from Reveluxion on User:Reveluxion (07:54, 23 January 2025)

Hey good day --Reveluxion (talk) 07:54, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

First anglo-afghan war

Hi Dr vulpes, user Noorullah is biased because of his afghan ethnicity and keeps changing my edit on the first anglo-afghan war and when I explain him why he should stop or we should just remove the result he keeps changing it . Can you do what you did before and remove the result completely because more people in the first anglo-afghan war talk agree with me and also the article itself as well Panekasos (talk) 02:39, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

First anglo-afghan war

And can you also change it to that the way it was without the result and make it protected indefinitely please because Noorullah user doesn't listen Panekasos (talk) 02:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Panekasos, sorry I can't help you see the page about contentious topics and you should be able to go from there. Because the page is part of a contentious topic it's been set to a higher protection level by another admin. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:52, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

If the protection leaves 1 month for example will you help me then please? Panekasos (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

In 1 month * Panekasos (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I mean that if the protection is lifted can you then help me please? I repeated just in case you didn't understand what I'm trying to ask you Panekasos (talk) 04:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

@Panekasos, the page has extended confirmed protection until 25 January 2026. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Well there's a chance that this protection will be removed earlier so in that case will you help me please? Panekasos (talk) 04:08, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

@Panekasos The proper place to ask is over at WP:RFPP. I'm not always here and when work/life gets busy I disappear for weeks or months at a time. I'm not trying to be unhelpful it's just that you'll get an admin to help you much faster there. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:15, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help and if you're active and I ask for your help don't worry I will wait Panekasos (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

If I haven't got any help from. WP:RFPP Panekasos (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Christianity in Nagaland

You just closed this as "moved". Can you explain? Srnec (talk) 20:09, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @Srnec, for some reason the script I use didn't swap the pages or leave my comment. It's probably some plugin or extension in Chrome that mucked things up. I'll go back and check the other pages I moved to make sure everything worked as expected. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Discord

Hello there. Excuse the bizarre request, but I want to ask if it is possible to contact you via DMs on Discord. My identifier there is "foxite."; I can't speak too openly here. Brat Forelli🦊 14:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Minecraft Live

Hello! Thank you for closing the discussion at Minecon. I noticed that you closed the move discussion as "move", but the page itself hasn't been moved yet.

Is it possible to get it moved?

Thanks. Strugglehouse (talk) 07:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out @Strugglehouse, I had it on a post-it note to go back and check those moves I did the other day but now I can't find it. I blame my cat, she likes the warm monitor a little too much sometimes. I've gone ahead and moved the article. Dr vulpes (Talk) 07:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Haha, no worries! Thanks for doing this! Strugglehouse (talk) 07:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Great Tri-State Tornado#Requested move 26 December 2024

Hi, in closing this, I was wondering if you actually read the editor comments of just counted votes? Cinderella157 (talk) 08:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 I read all of the comments and reviewed the policies and guidelines before I do any admin work. But I'm human and make mistakes, is there a particular point that you think I overlooked? As you can see from my talk page I'm pretty good at mucking things up as of late 🫠. Dr vulpes (Talk) 08:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Have you read Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2025 January#Great Tri-State Tornado. There was only one actual vote! after the relist but it offered no reason to support the move. Cinderella157 (talk) 08:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

This isn't about votes this RM was reopened and relisted it a week ago. I read all of the points raised in on the talk page and unless I've missed something on the talk page it looks like the rough consensus was for the move. Dr vulpes (Talk) 09:03, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Of course, an RM is not about votes but strength of argument. However, I thought you may have made the same error as the previous closer and misidentified apparent supports that were actually opposes. Having clarified that, what is your rationale for concluding a consensus to move please. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 It's 2am here, just come out with it and tell me where you think I made an error I'm not really up for a round of If You Give a Mouse a Cookie. Dr vulpes (Talk) 10:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

I was really wanting to see if you had a sound reasoning for reaching the conclusion. In simple terms, WP:COMMONNAME is the strongest WP:CRITERIA and the evidence indicates the proposed title does not meet this but a title with the year in it does. There are some comments about WP:NATURAL and using a year which are totally incorrect (see MR discussion). There are WP:THREEOUTCOMES and I am not seeing a consensus for the move based on strength of argument. I might like to think that my argument was particularly strong but ... Cinderella157 (talk) 10:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Considering that this was a move that had already undergone a Move Review that resulted in relisting, I think you should have provided a detailed summary of the reason you reached the conclusion. You did not provide any explanation in your closing summary. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 and @BarrelProof I’ve reverted the page to its original title and relisted the discussion. While the initial move seemed logical given the context and was made with good intentions, I understand the significance and importance these kinds of moves can hold. I trust this will resolve any lingering concerns and hope this correction allows for the discussion to move forward. Afterall our focus should remain on improving the content of article and further the creation of an encyclopedia. Thank you both for your engagement on this matter! Dr vulpes (Talk) 20:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Slab-grave culture#Requested move 28 December 2024

Hi, perhaps you might give some detailed reasoning as to how you have concluded a consensus to move. Cinderella157 (talk) 08:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Sure, the manual of style is pretty straight forward on this "words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia." after reviewing the point brought up on the talk page I then went and reviewed the literature I found that a majority of the names used Slab Grave culture and not Slab-grave culture. This isn't a very rich field of study so there is a lot of variation including quotes (that you pointed out), all lower case letter, etc. This wide range of variation does muddle the waters a bit but that plus the points raised by Toadspike I felt that the move was appropriate. Sorry for not going into depth in the closing comment. Dr vulpes (Talk) 08:50, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

It is not a majority but a substantial majority. The default is to lowercase when there is not consistent capitalisation in sources. As Toadspike observes: The capitalization in sources is messy and varies (ie the capitalisation in sources is not consistent) but they argue CONSISTENT. Even if CONSISTENT applies to capitalisation, it still isn't all that consistent. This wide range of variation does muddle the waters a bit. Based on this, it would appear to me to be a case of no consensus rather consensus for or against the move. Given what Toadspike has said in full, the comments you refer to would need to be exceptionally strong to present as a consensus and, unless you could be more specific about this, I am not seeing where this would be? Cinderella157 (talk) 10:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Question

Hello, I had a question about reviewing pending changes. Is it obligatory to notify (or warn) someone if I revert their pending revision? Cheers! Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 20:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Sophisticatedevening, nope you're all good just make sure you reverted for a proper reason. Dr vulpes (Talk) 20:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks! Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 20:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Article Assessment

Hello, I would like to kindly request your review of the Espérance Sportive de Tunis article to get a better ranking. I have been contributing to the page and would greatly appreciate your expertise in assessing its current quality. If you find any minor mistakes, your input would be incredibly valuable in improving it further. As the club will be participating in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup held in the USA, it would be wonderful if the article could reflect this exciting development and be elevated to a higher rank, perhaps even earning a protection status. Thank you so much for your time and help EL major (talk) 22:03, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Mejri Fares, I'm not sure what you mean by "higher ranking" but there is nothing I can do to affect the articles placement on search engines or on Wikipedia. Dr vulpes (Talk) 23:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Vulpes, thanks for your response! When I mentioned 'higher ranking,' I was referring to improving the article's quality or status on Wikipedia, not its search engine ranking. I was wondering if there are steps we can take to improve its quality or positioning within the Wikipedia platform itself. Any suggestions for enhancing the article further? EL major (talk) 23:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

ARBPIA articles

Hi, That's great if you can do it. If you send me mail, I'll reply with a CSV. Since there is only one column, it will be one name per line surrounded by quotes only if there is a comma in the name. Zero^talk 11:04, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I found a bunch more articles but they aren't on the page. When I get your email I will send you an updated list in CSV. It's up to about 2,200 articles. Thanks. Zero^talk 13:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I imagine this goes without saying, but don't protect all 2,200 of those without verifying that each one you protect is a primary article in your judgment. E.g., Xenophobia and racism in the Middle East is on the list but not a primary article. Remember to log any that you protect.

(I've recently been going through ones that have been ECP'd and logged but don't yet have a talk notice. Next up on my to-do list would be checking for missing protection.) SilverLocust 💬 01:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah 100%, there are some there that don't qualify under ARBPIA. I've noticed that at WP:RFPP sometimes requests will come in asking for ECP on an article that is not covered by ARBPIA (example). I know it's in good faith but still you gotta check since there are so many articles you don't want anything slipping through the cracks. My plan is to work protecting the pages in batches of between 20-25 then log the them at WP:AEL. I know myself well enough to know that if I try to do them in any large chunks I'll miss something along the way. Do you have any other advice or ideas for tackling this @SilverLocust? And seriously thanks for all the help it really means a lot to me. Dr vulpes (Talk) 01:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Nothing much comes to mind on advice or ideas. I imagine your judgment is as good as mine on what would qualify as "articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted ("primary articles")". SilverLocust 💬 01:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

👍 I'll reach out if there are any issues! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

To editor SilverLocust: The list I compiled excluded those for which the talk page template includes the "relatedcontent=yes" or "section=yes" parameter. About 120 articles were excluded. However, you are correct that some arguably non-primary articles are still on the list, which means they don't have that parameter. To prevent them from reappearing in future compilations, adding that parameter is the simplest way. For Template:ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement and Template:ARBPIA it is "relatedcontent=yes", and for Template:Contentious topics it is "section=yes". Note that the last one doesn't change the text which appears on the talk page, and I don't know if that was intentional. It is still noticed, though. The database query that makes the initial list (before those with the parameter are excluded) is here; Sean.hoyland independently confirmed that it operates as advertised. Zero^talk 03:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

@Zero0000 it's all good @SilverLocust is just making sure I don't muck anything up since I'm still a pretty new admin. As you can see by my talk page I am doing a fine job at mucking things up! Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

RM at Talk:Phoebe (bird)

You closed this RM as "moved", but you didn't do the move. I've now completed that task. Was there a reason you didn't? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey @UtherSRG thanks for catching that. I thought the script moved it but this has happened a couple times before where it says everything has moved and then someone comes back and points out that the page wasn't moved. This has happened enough that I don't think it's just me goofing it up and maybe there's something else in my settings or browser that is messing with it. I'll take a look later tonight. Dr vulpes (Talk) 17:22, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Roger that. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 19:15, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Locking the Spinoza page

Hello, I noticed that you’ve locked the Spinoza article because of alleged vandalism claimed by user Pepguardi. However, the only one who is constantly vandalizing, edit warring and insulting other users is Pepguardi himself. If you don’t believe me, take a look at his talk page. With regard to the recent changes, these were all made after a consensus was achieved at the talk page of the article on Spinoza. The only person still against this change (it’s currently 6 (if not more) against 1) is Pep himself. Can you do something about this perhaps? Because his behaviour and the way this is being handled now goes against the very essence of Wikipedia. 84.241.192.205 (talk) 14:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

RM at 2007–2008 financial crisis

I saw that you closed the RM at Talk:2007–2008 financial crisis#Requested move 15 January 2025, but I think you forgot to carry out the move itself. — Goszei (talk) 22:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, if you read up the talk page it's been a thing for me this last ~48 hours. Dr vulpes (Talk) 22:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Could you please leave a redirect when you move articles and talk pages including talk page archives? We have quite a lot (28) of broken redirects due to these page moves where no redirect was left. There is a lot of clean-up required. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:25, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can see them, but they are all listed right here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I've created move redirects at Talk:2007–2008 financial crisis/Archive index, Talk:2007–2008 financial crisis/Archive 1, Talk:2007–2008 financial crisis/Archive 2, and Talk:2007–2008 financial crisis/Archive 3 to fix these. SilverLocust 💬 00:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @SilverLocust, I went and checked the 28 links I failed to redirect correctly and it all looks good. Again thanks for handling that for me. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you @Liz I'll see to it right now! Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for arbitration for Second Battle of El Alamein

Sorry to bother you, but if you get the chance, could you please arbitrate a current discussion about infobox results for the Second Battle of El Alamein? A single user, Keith-264, has been effectively holding the article hostage for a month; ignoring and violating WP:RS, WP:CONSISTENCY and WP:CON. He arbitrarily changed the results without further discussion after they had sat on "Allied victory" for two months, and is now undoing all edits reverting it back, claiming it's "under discussion," despite him being the only dissenting voice against five other users, and having not added anything to the discussion himself since the it had been sitting on "Allied victory." I can't see this ending without intervention given he defers to discussion while refusing to actually do so. UncleBourbon (talk) 00:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @UncleBourbon, sorry that's not really something I can help with but here are a couple resources that might be helpful for you Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard, and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Please note that it's not that I don't want to help you it's more that I don't really know what I personally could do that would be of any help. But the folks at the two place I linked to should be able to help. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Understood; thank you! UncleBourbon (talk) 01:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)