User talk:Deb/Archive 25

Mikhail Lomtadze

Good day, dear Deb! Thank you for sending the article Mikhail Lomtadze to drafts. I’ll work on it’s improvements taking into confederation all your recommendations. Can you tell me, please; How I may send the article for reviewal (as there is no button for it) after edition? As I would like to bring the article back from deleted to mainspace . Deviloper (talk) 09:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Deb, I am a novice user of the English Wikipedia, I want to improve the rejected article for M. Lomtadze, but now I just have the improved version in my draft. While refining and improving the article, I reduced the text and the number and quality of links, and I’d like to get your professional opinion whether this version of the article may be published or not or there are any other comments about the article material, and I would also like to find out which points in the article need to be improved. Damon-KZ (talk) 05:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: CryptoRefills

Hi, there was no promotional content nor such language on the page created, which was a company page as many examples already exist. See JotForm page for instance, and please let me understand the difference between the removed page and JotForm page. I kindly request to restore the page. Stay safe! Cbk35 (talk) 01:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Cbk35

Cbk35 If only this were true. Please read the guidelines on advertising and also remember to declare your interest in the company before requesting the article to be restored. Deb (talk) 07:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Working Bikes

Can I get a copy/access to the page you deleted. It contains no copyrighted material and I would like to have a record of it.

Thank you, User: DHaddonPearson Dhaddonpearson (talk) 03:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

YOU --- Thanks for your message. I don't normally restore promotional content. To help me decide, could you let me know whether there is a conflict of interest, as described in my message above? Deb (talk) 09:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

I am not asking you to restore it, I am wanting to get access to the page so that I can make a copy of it. Thank you Dhaddonpearson (talk) 10:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Deb:

"This category lists administrators who have expressed willingness to provide the text of deleted articles, by adding themselves to this category, placing {{user recovery}} on their user page, or displaying the userbox shown below."

If this is something you are unwilling to do that is your choice I can ask elsewhere. Considering you deleted it I figured that it was reasonable to make this request of you.

Dhaddonpearson (talk) 10:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Quite reasonable to ask, but I will only restore promotional material in exceptional circumstances. Deb (talk) 11:02, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Qooliv Overseas

Hey Deb,

Hope you're doing great!

I've been trying to update a wikipedia page, but it has been deleted twice on the accounts of promotional activity. Can you kindly help me understand this, as I was not trying to promote anything, intentionally.

Also, please do let me know if it possible to keep the page after removing whatever you think is wrong there?

Thanks! Ddevh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddevhsharrma (talk • contribs) 10:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Sam Adeyemi

Dear Deb,

Hatchens advised me to contact you on the above subject, because you actually executed the page deletion. I believe the page Sam Adeyemi meets Wikipedia's notability and verifiability requirements, and that the subject deserves a Wikipedia page, for these reasons:

1. He is one of the most notable citizens of Nigeria. 2. He is an author with many published works. 3. He is an international motivational speaker. 4. He is the founder and pastor of one of the most prominent Nigerian megachurches. 5. Many of his less prominent contemporaries already have Wikipedia pages. 6. Many sources were cited for the article, and many more are available. 7. I believe the Sam Adeyemi page deserves improvement, rather than deletion.

I was doing some research and was quite astounded to find no Wikipedia page on him, hence my decision to work on creating the page. Everything I wrote was based on publicly available information, from many sources. Apart the cited sources, many any others are available and can be provided. I am not connected with the subject in any way, and have no reason whatsoever to promote him or his ministry.

I believe having a Wikipedia page on the subject would be of encyclopedic value, and do hereby request re-creation of the page. Thank you. ProfParochus (talk) 04:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

ProfParochus To begin with, you should be aware that the article was nominated and deleted for being promotional, not for reasons of notability. Even in your "justification" for what you wrote, you have strayed into promotional wording.

1. What evidence can you show for this person being "one of the most notable citizens of Nigeria"?
2. There are many, many people who have "many published works" and are not the subject of Wikipedia articles. The quality and significance of those works is far more relevant than the quantity. Self-published works like Adeyemi's don't count towards notability.
3. Motivational speakers are two a penny.
4. Being pastor of a church you founded yourself is not evidence of notability. What evidence is there that this church is "one of the most prominent" in Nigeria?
5. "Other stuff exists" is not an argument.
6. Most of the sources were duplicated, and several were primary sources.
7. You are entitled to your opinion. In fact, an article on this subject existed previously and was deleted by consensus, after a discussion. Some of those contributing felt that the subject "scraped by" the notability criteria. However, your article did not improve on the original, and was written in a fawning, laudatory manner. Phrases like "with the aim of helping people to realize their life's purpose by impartation of requisite knowledge to discover, develop, release and maximize their hidden potentials" and "with the vision to raise exceptional leaders and managers to transform the world" are not encyclopaedic and don't belong in Wikipedia.

Having read my responses, I hope you understand why the article you wrote was unacceptable. If you care to try again from scratch, please use draft space. Deb (talk) 08:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Deb Many thanks for taking the time to clearly explain what was unacceptable in the article's style and substance. I do understood, and have now accordingly written another draft in my sandbox. Please take a look and give your opinion about it.ProfParochus (talk) 14:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	I hereby award you this barnstar because of your tireless work in chronological articles, adding refs and bringing them closer to compliance with WP:V. I do a little reverting, but you're doing the heavy lifting here! Thanks!!! Elizium23 (talk) 20:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Mr. Deb I Realize That You Have Deleted My Article Can You Please Tell Me Why It Was Deleted So It Want Happened Again Please I Just Wanted To Make Articles... From The Ultimate Station — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Ultimate Station (talk • contribs) 13:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

speedy deletion

I am writing to ask for your help in understanding why the article I submitted on Silicon Sensing was deleted. It is not marketing content. I am not being paid to submit this. Its very basic factual information. I am unsure how to sort this out and would appreciate advice? Thanks PHeleneCox (talk) 14:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure why I need to explain why I am trying again as long as the content is factual? However so you understand, last year I failed to upload a piece on this company - which is local to me. I was quite frustrated so set this to one side. I have some time now so thought I would try to get to grips with this again. If I understand correctly I need to link the content to third party verifiable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PHeleneCox (talk • contribs) 14:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I very rarely write on Wikipedia and have never received any compensation or had any other benefit from it - not even for the recently deleted article about . The article is an almost verbatim translation from the German Wikipedia, where it has never been objected to. The software has relevance - thousands of accountants work with it every day, also in the USA. I don't find it overdone in promotional language, it has many references. How can I improve it so that it is accepted? Maybe remove the links to the xsuite website?Alex Kowalski (talk) 20:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for deletion of my user page. Goodbye Lakshmikanta Manna (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Deb, I do not know Abimbola personally. I attended a virtual conference with her and Tina Wells. I found Tina's page and thought it would make sense to use a similar format for the other speaker based on the introduction received at Visa. Didn't seem like a promotion for anything or anyone (especially since it was the exact same format). Was it simply the link to the book or something else? Tovies (talk) 04:01, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deb i am not sure why my page was deleted, i am not trying to advertise or i am not getting paid to do this. And continuously i am getting the reply from the article editors that i am advertising or the content is promotional. Nabyl8899 (talk) 14:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

Happy New Year @Deb:. This referenced entry was deleted early in December 2020: "Some people offered this scholarship have not accepted it, including Alimuddin Zumla, who declined the scholarship as a teenager to study medicine." What is your advice regarding including it?

Please see: The deletion was made by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_ALL2ALLA

Ear-phone (talk) 01:07, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Thank you for your deep dive and feedback @Deb:. The edit was indeed not made by a sock, but by @Stevenbradley2020: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhodes_Scholarship&type=revision&diff=992571575&oldid=991761423.

I have now found the undergraduate reference you are referring to

Given that one can start undergraduate studies as a teenager and also that one can apply for the scholarship before completing undergraduate studies https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media/45482/information-for-candidates-zambia.pdf the references citing him declining the Rhodes offer, at that stage of his life, are all consistent.

Would this be ok? "Some offered this scholarship have declined it, including Alimuddin Zumla." Ear-phone (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

References

1924

Thank you for your interest in the Year pages. You have done a lot of useful work. I see that you have reverted my edit on Mahlon Pitney, as not being sufficiently internationally notable. It's a coherent viewpoint and have no problem with it: but you should be aware that all I was doing was making the entry consistent with the entry that he has in Births (in 1858). So, I think that you should delete that entry, or at least move it to the US section of Year in Topic if you think it should more appropriately be there. More or less all of the edits that I make to historic Deaths pages are where the subject already has an entry in Births. Rcb1 (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)rcb1

I agree, it should come out of 1858. I'll see to that. Deb (talk) 14:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your newest edit. I have no problem with your view - I asked myself the question myself. But again I was only making it consistent with the births entry (in 1859). So if you want to delete this, I suggest you delete the births entry, or at least move it to Year in Topic, too.Rcb1 (talk) 12:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)rcb1

I don't have enough time to go back over all the old entries, it has already taken me years to get this far; however, I can ensure that no more are added. Deb (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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Stop undoing my changes

Hello buddy, stop undoing my changes .. Thank you .. This page will be monitored by me.. I'm paid to do so by by company.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgs job (talk • contribs) 17:10, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Paid not to read the guidelines? Never mind, it won't happen again. Deb (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

2020

Hi! Thank you for your explanation for the revert on the year article. I was meaning to ask if there's a guideline, essay or discussion regarding the notability criteria used in year articles that I could use as a guide in the future. Many thanks in advance! --NoonIcarus (talk) 01:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Hi Deb. Could you please advise on how I should disclose my conflict of interest? I believed (wrongly, clearly) that I had done this as instructed in the guidelines by disclosing it on my user page. Thank you for your help Ihearttech (talk) 15:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the explanation and for sharing the correct guidelines, I had not realised I had to use the template instead of a written declaration. I really appreciate the help. Ihearttech (talk) 17:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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Featured Article Review for The Country Wife

I have nominated The Country Wife for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Beland (talk) 20:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Bonsai Empire

Why was the article Bonsai Empire deleted? "Reads like an ad"? Most of the visitors to Bonsai Empire do not purchase anything -- they go for information, mostly free. The quality videos now available are just an added feature of this educational site. Please reconsider.RJBaran (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)RJBaran

You seem to be suggesting that a website can't be advertised, whilst at the same point admitting that things are sold through the website or as a result of its recommendations. You've misunderstood the meaning of "advertising". Deb (talk) 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How can any commercial site then have a Wikipedia article? BTW, while I have contributed a couple of articles to Bonsai Empire over the years, I have never received any renummeration from them. I have had to purchase the ebooks my articles were used in. I am a bonsai historian first published in 1991 -- pre-Internet -- and I have written about all aspects of the topic of bonsai. I have contributed to a number of bonsai-related articles on Wikipedia. RJBaran (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

It's possible to write an article about a commercial website neutrally, without advertising it - see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. If you aren't able to do that, we can't include it. Deb (talk) 15:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Can I please get a copy of the deleted article to make necessary changes to -- or do I have to start from scratch? Not all of the article was "advertising".RJBaran (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft page: Virgil Riaan Prins

Good day, I trust you are well.

I am contacting you regarding deletion of one of my drafts. I would have hoped that before deletion I would have received a chance to change those phrases that present to be promotional as you have stated.

In the future, please be so kind as to notify a user of such assumed points.

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maudrey702 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I would have hoped that before editing you would have read the guidelines and made some effort to abide by them. You won't be getting any special favours from me. Deb (talk) 13:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted page

hi, you recently deleted an article I was working on. it was my first article and I had spent many many hours creating it. I understood i still had work to do on it and perhaps went about it in not the best way. I am new to wikipedia and very much learning. I understand why it was deleted but would like to keep working on it to make it better and try again. also I found so many references and don't want to lose the many hours it took to find them. is there a way to please restore the page just as a draft so that I can work on it again and make the changes before submitting it again. please let me know if I can have access to it to make it better and to not lose all that work. many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misletoe20 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC) Misletoe20, can you tell me what your connection is with the subject of the article? What made you choose this as your first Wikipedia edit? Deb (talk) 09:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC) yes I heard Justin Kingsley, the subject, talk twice at a conference in montreal and found him extremely interesting. when I was thinking what to write for my first article I was doing some research and noticed he didn't have a wikipedia page. I thought it would be a really good page to make - challenging but interesting. honestly I didn't realise how long and difficult it would be but I want to see it through after all the hours of work I've put into it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.211.131 (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Deb (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

thank you, I replied to your comment on my talk page Misletoe20 (talk) 17:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

I replied to your comment on my talk page regarding this article. please can you allow me to have access to this article again as a draft so I can work on it and improve it and so that I don't lose all of the many hours of work it took me to compile. please, thank you Misletoe20 (talk) 16:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, please can you allow me to access the article I was creating so I can improve it, I can't work on it if I don't even have access. Just a temporary access which will allow me to save all the work I had done - including all the links and citations and sources. if I can save all of that I will work on it off wikipedia then come back with a stronger article that will hopefully get approval. Please just allow me to save the work and then I don't mind essentially rewriting it or starting again. thank you! It is the article Justin Kingsley Misletoe20 (talk) 15:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

hii Deb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniz_Unay Please could you help me with this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources Say here Editors may also use material from reliable non-academic sources, particularly if it appears in respected mainstream publications. Other reliable sources include:

University-level textbooks Books published by respected publishing houses Magazines Mainstream newspapers

Ok let's take a look at my resources accordingly 1) file: /// Users / denizunay / Downloads / 6101-14047-1-PB% 20 (8) .pdf Europine Science Peer-reviewed scientific journal published in Europe The article is published by citing his article published by Anadolu Agency. 2) http://revistaestilosdeaprendizaje.com/article/download/2171/3207/ Scientific Paper Study for the European Observatory Committee of Experts Peer-reviewed scientific journal published in Europe The article is published by citing his article published by Anadolu Agency. 3) https://www.trt.net.tr/vizyondergisi/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/mart-2019.pdf State television TRT in Turkey belongs to "TRT Vision" magazine cover his "Game Not Cyberbullying" Cover the warning did. This news operation in the Republic of Turkey News on page 30 was given to the views of the Minister of Education and Minister of Transport. 4) Among my sources were links of organizations that broadcast Mainstream Regularly. Anadolu Agency Takes Jazerá Hurriyet, Milliyet bianet.org independent Turkish Haberturk tribune.co inside and outside of Turkey, such as many reliable sources https://mubasher.aljazeera.net/news/politics/2020/4/12/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%88%D9%85%D8 % A7% D8% AA-% D8% A7% D9 84% D9 85% D8% B6% D9 84% D9 84% D8% A9-% D9 81% D9% 8A% D8% B1% D9 88% D8% B3-% D8% A3% D9 83% D8% AB% D8% B1-% D8% A7% D9% 86% D8% AA% D8% B4% D8% A7% D8% B1% D8 A7 http://tribune.com.pk/story/2208176/8-connection-5g-COVID-19 5) He also has Turkish and English CV's of his own and enough information about himself and his work. Republic of Turkey Ministry of National Education, and I offer resources from other official institutions 6) Erasmus Program Training I presented as a source, https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tech-addiction-poses-mental-physical-threats-expert-150261/ In addition, the Russian National Press has given his views on the Social Media Law Regulation in Russia after the International Conference he attended. https://www.oprf.ru/press/news/2617/newsitem/56156 https://www.gazeta.ru/tech/2020/12/10_a_13394533.shtml 7) One of his articles translated into Vietnamese and published in the entire Vietnamese national press https://ictnews.vietnamnet.vn/cuoc-song-so/tong-thong-trump-mang-xa-hoi-dang-thao-tung-tu -do-ngon-luan-cua-cong-chung-253844.html 8) Self-written and published Children's storybook translated into Turkish and English He wrote a book called Muzip Yaman telling about technology addiction for primary and secondary school children, and it was translated into English with the name Willy Yaman. More resources from all the details are available on Google All of the resources I have provided to date meet all the criteria. He is an author, an educator, his book has been published. Please help me before deleting this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 15:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

MCI

Hi Deb. Looks like you deleted the Manchester China Institute wiki page I created. Did you see my reply to your query? MCI is an academic non-profit and does not engage in promotion. Instead, it serves Northwest England, an oft ignored region. I am happy do to whatever you require to improve the encyclopaedic content of the entry. cheers, PetePetergries88 (talk) 13:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Petergries88 Yes, I did see your comments contesting deletion. Nearly all non-profits promote themselves by any means they can, so it would be surprising if this one didn't. In your case, I think you have an undeclared conflict of interest which needs to be addressed before we go any further. It also looks like you have contributed to an article about yourself and have added numerous promotional links. Have you read the Wikipedia guidelines? I would suggest you do so before you re-draft the article. Deb (talk) 14:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

AmandaMediati

Can user:AmandaMediati please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 15:40, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Planning Wikimedia Community User Group Kenya

Please restore Planning Wikimedia Community User Group Kenya and move it to either the Wikipedia: namespace or the creator's user-space. Note that its creator has a "new user" template on their user page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:00, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Edd Gould

Hi Deb, I placed Edd Gould in 1988 because he was originally put into 1987 which is the incorrect birthyear. I add a reference now. Kingzwest (talk)

2021 in the UK

Not sure if you edit much on the 2021 in the United Kingdom page, but since you're from the UK I thought I'd let you know that earlier today I went on and updated the Deaths section to include missing deaths of people from England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - adding people who were up until then missing from that page but were in the Deaths in January 2021 page, among others. Since that opened up more space for images of prominent recently deceased Brits, I went ahead and included many as well, rather than just one, oversized image like it was previously. I updated the overall style and format to bring it in line with the main 2021 page (and several other Year in Topic pages), such as using dates of birth instead of age. It took several hours to complete, only for another user to carpet remove everything I did shortly after, claiming that there was over-link (which if so, then.... why would he not do the same to other pages, including the main 2021 page?). If you are able to, it would be amazing if you were able to help back me up on that page in case attempts were made to mass revert again, and help consolidate the changes made to update the page. --Thescrubbythug (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

HOW TO SECURE A WIKI PAGE

Hello Deb,

This is a response to your reply on the above subject "Only administrators can carry out page protection"

Does this mean that the owner of the page cannot manually protect the page and will have to request for protection?

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohndoeACCESS (talk • contribs) 12:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes. And you have to have a very good reason. Deb (talk) 13:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

DP Live

Hi, Deb, I saw what you did here, thanks for that! I think we've had (more than) enough of this, so I've started Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DPLIVE202; I mentioned you there, but I'm never sure how well the ping thing works from those pages. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC) Justlettersandnumbers - Yes, it does work. Deb (talk) 18:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thought

Hi Deb, given their comment above yours here, I wonder whether Ektopia might not need to go the same way as Here for the snacks? --Jack Frost (talk) 09:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

My Page got Deleted, need your Assistance

Hi Deb, I was working on my first Wikipedia page, where I was creating a profile for my client, he is a football player from Thailand and he don't have any page yet. This was the first time for me and I know what mistake I made, I added his personal social profiles and website on the page and that leads me to the advertising violation. That was my first time and unwillingly I made this mistake. I want to make changes on the content and want to publish the page again as it was really a tough task creating a Wikipedia page. Or assist me If I am going wrong somewhere else too. Thanks in advance. - Shivani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamartjr (talk • contribs) 10:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

2401:4900:52B4:4569:8DA2:7EA:FC2E:D539

Can user:2401:4900:52B4:4569:8DA2:7EA:FC2E:D539 please be blocked ASAP for disruptive editing. CLCStudent (talk) 12:24, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Seldom have I seen a more deserving case! Deb (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Restoration of GeorgeNotFound (redirect)

Hi there! I noticed that you deleted the GeorgeNotFound page, which was a redirect to Dream (YouTuber). Unless the redirect had been edited without me noticing, the page was definitely pointing to an existing page. It was even cited in this Redirects for creation discussion, which eventually led to another redirect being created which targeted the same page as the deleted redirect. I did consider that you might have accidentally deleted the redirect since it had been linking (but not redirecting) to the deleted draft, Draft:GeorgeNotFound, as the redirect had the {{R with possibilities}} template with it. Because of that, and since the redirect was a related topic to the target page, would it be alright to restore the deleted redirect? It would have been impossible that the redirect pointed to the draft in the first place, as article namespace redirects are never supposed to point to drafts. Many thanks and have a nice day! Chlod (say hi!) 09:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Chlod, you're right. I didn't look carefully enough at that. Having said that, I don't see much justification for the redirect, since they are not the same person. Had the draft been approved, it would have gone into that space in any case. What am I missing? Deb (talk) 09:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that redirects are allowed to point to related topics (or specifically "Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article."), given that the target discusses a related topic — which is why the {{R to related topic}} template exists, and which is why the redirect created in the AFC (which is also a person) was permitted. The relation of the target page to the redirect is also established (or at least it can be since there are sources which can establish such a relation). As such, I don't see much reason on why the redirect should have been deleted. Chlod (say hi!) 09:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Chlod It only happened because the delete process for the draft pointed me to the "article", which I saw was a redirect, but didn't look closely enough at what it was redirecting to. So yes, the cancellation was for an incorrect reason. But no other articles link to the title, so where is its value as a redirect? Deb (talk) 10:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:R#KEEP, redirects are usually preserved in order to aid future editors when writing articles and would [make] the creation of duplicate articles less likely. Under that same point, it discusses that redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion. Prior to deletion, the redirect had the {{R with possibilities}} template – an indication that an article could be created in the future. Although the draft for the article was deleted, it wasn't deleted due to a lack of notability, but due to G11 (promotional content), which means that the subject still has a possibility of creation. Considering that the subject is likely to be notable some time in the future (since they are closely related to a notable subject, and is receiving media attention themselves), keeping the redirect would be beneficial for links in future articles on related topics (whenever they may be created) or for the promotion of the creation of an article, essentially graduating the redirect into a fully-fledged article. Even if the redirect didn't have incoming internal links, it could have still been linked to on other pages or could have been searched for (e.g. through https://wikipedia.org, which resolves redirects). For those reasons, its value as a redirect might not be visible now, but may be in the long-term. Chlod (say hi!) 10:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

References

Something odd

Please compare this which you deleted with this which seems to be an autobiography about a person with the same name. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

2009 Damallsvenskan

Hi, I got a message saying that a few years ago you moved the page 2009 Damallsvenskan to Draft:2009 Damallsvenskan. I could not see this page, so I drafted a new version, using the Swedish Football Association's site as source: Draft:2009 Damallsvenskan. Is it possible to merge the 2 versions?

I got to work on this page because I have a red link to it on a page I'm working on, Manon Melis, which is currently at WP:GAN. Ideally I woul like to remove the red link. Thanks, Edwininlondon (talk) 22:36, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Susman orange

Can user:Susman orange please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 14:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

TPA

Hi Deb. Per these edits, you might want to revoke talk page access for Isandatasystems, whom you blocked earlier. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, done. Deb (talk) 18:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx

Deb,

Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx is a podcast that has been around for over three years. He has had, on his show, many guests that do in fact have their own wikipedia pages. I created the page "Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx" has a reference for those interested in continuing their education and connecting the dots of existing wikipedia pages regarding the show. I am confused as to why this page was "Speedy deleted" when "The Joe Rogan" podcast and Anna faris "unqualified" podcast both have pages similar to "Clayton Howe's Entertainmentx" which was deleted. Additionally, I would like to recover my hard work on the page. Please advise.

Thank you 21:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Nicolelong (talk) Nicolelong

Deletion: Vidya Rattan Sharma

Dear Deb,

Hope you are doing great. This is regarding the deletion of page Vidya Rattan Sharma. I believe the page meets Wikipedia's notability and verifiability requirements, and that the subject deserves a Wikipedia page. The article was tagged for deletion for two reasons, at first it read more like an advertisement and secondly, it seemed like a resume.

I have redrafted the article & before publishing it, I would like to take your suggestion on it. Please check the draft here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vidya_Rattan_Sharma

I believe having a Wikipedia page on the subject would be of encyclopedic value and do hereby request re-creation of the page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohitnwi (talk • contribs) 06:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I can't see any improvement on the previous version. What is your connection with the subject of the article? Deb (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I am nowhere connected to the person. However, I use to improve & create articles related to the industry. Some changes that I have done are removing the content that looked promotional & adding references to high authority independent news sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohitnwi (talk • contribs) 06:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I've looked at this again. Here are some examples of where you have gone wrong:

1. "He did his schooling diploma from Haryana and completed his Mechanical Engineering and MBA from the University of London." The reference you quoted does not mention where he did his MBA or where his school was.
2. "He was always a scholar in studies and was also the captain of Hockey team in his school and university in India." This is puffery; it's not relevant to the article and is not referenced.

In future, will you please remember to sign your posts? Deb (talk) 09:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

DbVisualizer

Hi Deb,

I wrote an article here, based on the Swedish article about Dbvisualizer. You flagged it as advertisement so I would just like some pointers on what to change to make it less so because that was never my intention. I love IT and technology and I do wanna point out what made something be where it is today but of course, it shouldn't be a "selling" article. I don't want that either.

Thank you in advance!

Best regards Magnus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hagelin-Linder (talk • contribs) 13:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Spent a while looking for the "article" - turns out it was just a draft. The original article was deleted twice before I even saw it. The fact that an article exists in another Wikipedia doesn't, of course, mean that it is going to be automatically accepted here. I'm willing to restore the draft, on condition that you can assume me you have no outside connection with the subject of the article. Deb (talk) 12:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Deb, I am indeed an IT-professional, but in another field. I work in IT-security and spend my days (and sometimes nights) monitoring traffic to the networks of banks and other major customers, looking for security threats in real-time. I do not work with databases, which is was DbVisualizer is about. But as a fellow Swede, I am aware of the popularity of the software, hence the original article in Swedish.

I know that precedent is not a big thing with Wikipedians, so automatic acceptance was not expected. But I assume the underpinning principles are the same for all language versions of Wikipedia. Please get back to me regarding what should be modified or deleted for the text to be accepted and not flagged as advertisement.Hagelin-Linder (talk) 09:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for some edits on Boadi page

Please can I kindly contact you via mail on some edits concerning the Boadi page HuahiRoyals (talk) 08:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

No. Please use the talk page. Deb (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Block

Hi Deb. I reported Ds Abhishek to AIV as a promotion-only account. However, a bot removed my report as stale a few hours later... didn't know that was being done now. Anyway, do you think this user deserves a block for their 3x userpage spamming? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Oops, forgot the username above... added it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Drm310 - On the surface, yes. Sorry, for some reason I didn't see this message earlier. Please let me know if they come back. Deb (talk) 15:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

19:42, 20 February 2021 Deb talk contribs deleted page Arielle Kayabaga

I really don't get this, how can one person make a decision to delete an article? And why is there no time to discuss the issue (s)? There are many articles about politicians and I followed a template and style used by an existing published one. I have used, what seems to me, to be neutral language. I have provided references from many different sources. I have done research on the person. The city of London is approaching 500,000 people so it seems a councillor here may have some importance. KenDavison3 (talk) 23:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

KenDavison3 In response to your questions:

1. Only administrators can delete an article, and we do so in accordance with the Wikipedia guidelines.
2. Had you not moved the article out of draft without waiting for a review, you would have received constructive comments from more experienced contributors as to was wrong with it.
3. Please read the criteria for inclusion of local politicians. Most of your references were to primary sources.

You are of course free to request a deletion review, or to start again from scratch, but I would recommend you do so in draft space. Deb (talk) 10:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

This is my first attempt to publish an article. I realized from the start that getting a person published was a challenge thus I spent over a year in draft mode trying to be sure that I was providing a good candidate for publishing. I have read various rules but it seems impossible to follow them all and clearly some decisions are opinions made by one or two people. I'm am trying to learn but we all make mistakes while learning. (it appears I'm good at learning by mistake). I went looking for how to publish the article and it told me to move it, nothing was mentioned about having it reviewed. I would appreciate if you could move this back into my draft area so that I can get it reviewed. The Notability requirements are subjective so I have no real way of determining if this particular person is notable. For example the City of Toronto seems to have 25 notable councillor, many of which seem to have done less than Arielle has. City of Windsor also has councillors which are notable.

You point out that most of my references are to primary sources. This is good isn't it?

Thanks KenDavison3 (talk) 16:32, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

KenDavison3, Here are some pointers. As far as I can see, apart from a few edits under your old name in 2010-2011, the draft of this article was your first contribution on Wikipedia. Guidelines change over the years, and new editors normally practise a bit with small changes to other articles before trying to create one from scratch. If you had done that, it would have helped you get to grips with the basics. Now tell me if I'm wrong about what happened next.

1. When you first created the draft, this message appeared at the top of the page:

Does that look familiar? It tells you that you have six months to work on the article. It also tells you how to submit it for review.

1. At your first attempt, the draft was deleted as a copyright infringement. You recreated it in draft.
2. After you had neither improved it nor submitted it for review in six months, your draft got deleted, in accordance with procedure, and you requested that it be restored.
3. It was restored, you worked on it a bit more and then decided, despite your previous experiences, that it was ready to publish. Is it really so surprising that it then got deleted again?

You write: "most of my references are to primary sources. This is good isn't it?" No, it's not. References to primary sources are allowed, but they don't help to establish notability because they are not independent. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources.

You ask "I would appreciate if you could move this back into my draft area so that I can get it reviewed." I understand that, but it's not your draft area; it's an area where other people could have helped you with your article. I'll do this, this one time, but I can't guarantee that the draft won't be deleted again, for the same reasons, by someone else. So as soon as it's restored, you'll need to start work on fixing it. It will be here. Deb (talk) 17:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

178.79.32.13

Can user:178.79.32.13 and user:103.225.59.144 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 15:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of a draft

Dear Deb, I am writing to ask for your help to understand why the draft about JumpStory got removed. It is not marketing content and all the information was factual information found in the sources. Could you specify which parts were considered promotional and not objective? And which sources are independent, as these were all found on Google about the company? I am unsure how to sort this out and would appreciate advice? Thank you! Mareglite2021 (talk) 10:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Mareglite2021

The Hellenic Initiative

Hi Deb,

I just uploaded a new text for The Hellenic Initiative on my Sandbox. Can you check if it is ok and what is needed to be corrected so that the page gets approved? Is there something else I need to do? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeni at THI (talk • contribs) 14:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC) Xeni at THI, I see nothing in your sandbox. Deb (talk) 15:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC) Hi Deb! Can you check again? Thank you!

Xeni at THI, it won't pass on notability with only one reference. Deb (talk) 11:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC) I added some more! Let me know what you think. Thank you!

Hello Deb! Would you mind checking my article once more? Before I send it? Any advice is much appreciated! Thank you! Hi Deb! Thank you for replying! Can you help me by telling me what I have to do regarding the conflict of interest? It is all very complicated. How should I declare my conflict of interest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeni at THI (talk • contribs) 13:31, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Undoubtedly they'd re-appear

But I’d be waiting. Thanks for handling that in time & yup! thank goodness they aren’t Einstein's at UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Just take a look

at this & read the full thread. surely they think we were born last night. Celestina007 (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Apparently they do! Never mind, an appeal like that won't get past first base. Deb (talk) 08:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

FYI

The edits on Post, Iran was an attempt at page hijacking by the user to promote their postage company (it's about a place) - see their edits there. Was a goldlock really necessary? Pahunkat (talk) 10:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC) Pahunkat What would be your preferred solution? Deb (talk) 10:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't really mind to be honest - but I'm keeping an eye on MasoudKamalabad's edits in case they recreate that company page again. I don't see anything wrong with the current revision of that page, I was just wondering if full protection was necessary. Pahunkat (talk) 11:07, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

It's only for a few days. The problem is that the user is already autoconfirmed, which makes lesser protection more difficult - but if he makes one more dodgy edit, I'll block him permanently. Deb (talk) 12:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted article under false pretenses

Hello Deb, you recently deleted an article I had written about a local advertising agency. The reason I had written the article is to provide educational information on the company and to differentiate it from a different company with the same name (DM Digital UK). The other DM Digital article has caused a lot of confusion for the agency and I was trying to set the record straight by creating a public, well-informed article surrounding the company. If you could please allow for the article to go under review, that would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minordrew (talk • contribs) 18:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

But, Minordrew, it is your own company, isn't it? That's a conflict of interest which you haven't declared. Deb (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I was unaware of how to disclose that information until this morning. I've only had a wikipedia editor's account for a week now. If you enable the draft, I can disclose it at the top using the tag {{Connected_contributor}} mentioned in your linked article. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Minordrew (talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Would you take a look?

Hey Deb, Happy Friday!

This editor is fresh off a long-overdue block for persistently adding unsourced info. Warnings are a mile long on their talk page history but going back to 2018 the editor knew about WP:DOYCITE, but has persistently ignored not just the DOY guidance but generally adding plenty of unsourced material including these after their block. Here are just some of the recent ones: [1], [2], [3], [4]. Toddst1 (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Toddst1, I'm afraid it's Saturday morning here - but I see someone has already taken the necessary action. Deb (talk) 08:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Aleem Zafar

Hi,

I think you removed everything from the page Aleem Zafar. So here's my two cents on this, apparently what I've noticed everyone over here who rejects or accepts it has a different mindset of criteria to accept or reject the article. For one it might be promising and for others its more like not relevant at all. I've been editing the changes as required and told by the people before. I think this topic is extremely subjective, I've mentioned this before as well that all the sources I provided here are the best news sources from the country the artist belongs from. I've made my research as well, also I think there was a page by this name previously as well. Now you mentioned copyright issue, I doubt that it's a copyright issue. An artist biography on any website is publicly available and can be used anywhere until stated by the person that it should not be used elsewhere, now to add on if anyone rewrites something from references he or she will have to take the persons permission for copyright issue and I assume wiki does not allow this as well due to the fact that the article should be independent and from my research the content written here was firstly written on wikipedia then it was copied elsewhere because a lot of other websites have an old copy of the older wiki article this guy had. Now no matter what with this reason you cannot put a biography in your own special words when all the words used are literally the only ones you can used.

Removing everything was a bit harsh of a reaction I would say & I've no connection to the account you've mentioned earlier yet I can see that person made edits to this article as well. This article was definitely not the one's like you can say has 0 relevance, the guy has worked with several Bollywood actors from what I can see and you can see as well, has his music on different platforms. It's always better to atleast suggest something instead of just deleting it all along.

Thank you, everything I wrote above is with all due respect :) cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranin69 (talk • contribs) 11:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow, what a coincidence - two people with the same name editing the same draft. Deb (talk) 11:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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Mention

Yo, I mentioned you on User talk:Kiranin69, but it didn't appear to go through for whatever reason I don't think... Either that or I mentioned you three times. If the latter is the case, I apologize for my apparent incompetence. Either way, could you check that out when you get a sec? It's not really important tbh, but the user wishes for you to allow them to recreate the article (again) and does not know how to ping. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 02:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for everything you have done in response to requests for G11 and other speedy deletions. If there is anything I could improve in terms of tagging pages, feel free to let me know. Jalen Folf (talk) 18:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Jalen Folf, Thank you! You're doing just fine. Deb (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Vetco Electronics deleted for no good reason.

Any reason this was deleted as an advertisement?

The format and style of wording was copied specifically from the Fry's Electronics page. If my draft truly qualifies for deletion, then the Frys page surely does too. Also, you didn't even bother to point out what you considered to be advertisement in that article. Had you done that, I could have fixed it.

What can we do to get that fixed and undeleted?

Thank you. App87k (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2021 (UTC)App87k

I see no resemblance between your article and the article on Fry's Electronics. Deb (talk) 11:07, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Omari Salisbury

Hi I'd like to recover the deleted page Omari Salisbury back into a draft so i can fix the issues with it that made it too promotional. Thank you --MAMIjams (talk) 19:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

The page is not intended to be promotional. I have no relationship to the subject other than appreciating his work. There are a lot of references and research in that draft that I don't have saved elsewhere and I would really appreciate being able to work off of that draft rather than having to re-research and enter all those sources again. --MAMIjams (talk) 01:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thank you so much and thanks for the tip! --MAMIjams (talk) 17:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC) (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: SaberZ

Good night Deb,

I started my page a few years ago and it got deleted due to promotional activity last year. I tried to recover it but apparently the person i was discussing with simply ignored me, so i created it again today, removing anything that could be seen as promotion, but you've deleted it again, even though there's nothing promotional on the page.

Please, could you kindly help me understand what's wrong or what information is promotional? Maybe i just missed something. I already explained that any promotional activity on the page was totally unintentional, and i obviously do not wish to use wikipedia for advertising.

By removing whatever promotional activity left on the page (which i highly doubt there's any), is it possible to please get it back? 🥺

Thank you 😊

Joseefitness (talk) 20:27, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey deb, thank you so much for replying!

Yes, i have - a couple of times, and i still don't know what's wrong since i removed everything but two sentences in the introduction.

About my username, it's just the username i use for any website or social media. Is it relevant? (Asking because wikipedia doesn't ask you to create a specific form of username)

Edit: Well, i think i forgot to remove the external links from the draft. I had a backup copy of it and the only thing i removed was the promo part in the introduction/biography before creating the draft again, and i totally forgot about that section since it's at the bottom of it. I'm so sorry about this. Will fix it

Thank you 😊

Joseefitness (talk) 20:27, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey deb!! hope you are doing great!!

Yeah, no worries, it's just the username i use for literally everything. I basically came up with it years ago and it's just my normal name "Jose" together with "fitness", because i work out lol.

Regarding to the draft: so is it all sorted out? Can i create it again, with everything fixed, or should i wait for you to restore it?

Thank you!! And it's okay, you receive a lot of messages every day so i know it can be frustrating replying to everybody :)

Joseefitness (talk) 21:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey deb! Thank you so much for the advices. I spent some time yesterday reading other musicians wikis and now i have a pretty good idea of everything in general, and how to do it.

Yes, i might have forgotten to delete it from the wiki code before starting the page. Is there any way to delete it? I tried yesterday, because i didn't understand why it showed up again, until i noticed it was on the top of the page, and now it won't let me remove it from the code. Any solution to this?

Thanks!!

Joseefitness (talk) 18:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey deb! thank you so much for deleting the speedy deletion from the draft. I'm gonna start working on it from now on.

Once i get some work done, would you give me feedback about how is it going? If i'm going in the right direction. Would appreciate it :)

Joseefitness (talk) 22:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Praxidicae

Praxidicae is spam advertizing a website Thedefender35 18:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. Deb (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Creation of new page for Briggs Equipment UK

Hi Deb,

Hope you are well?

In January 2021, you marked a draft for Briggs Equipment UK for speedy deletion as it was written in a promotional style. After reading through your feedback and the Wikipedia article guidelines, I have redrafted the copy text ready for it to be submitted.

However, on the article wizard tool there is a prompt to contact yourself before proceeding with the submission, so I would be grateful if you could confirm the correct process for resubmitting this page?

Many thanks for your assistance. TP1992BriggsEquipment (talk) 22:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Esmaa Mohamoud article

Hi Deb. I see you tagged the Esmaa Mohamoud article with the orphan, advert, and citations tags. It looks pretty well cited to me, and I don't read it as an advertisement. I removed the orphan tag as it has been linked in 4 articles. Would you object if I remove the other 2 tags? Could you say why you added those? Thanks. (I put this note on the article's talk page, but it looks as if you may not be responding to messages sent to your user ID. Sorry if this is repetitive. --Unionpearl (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC) Unionpearl It's hard for me to remember what I did yesterday, let alone two years ago. However, reading it over again, I can see why I tagged it for promotional language. It still reads as if it was written by the subject's PR team. Deb (talk) 09:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Peter Gries page

Apologies, Deb, that I was unaware of the COI issue on the webpage about me that my former employer created years ago that I recently updated. It was out of date. It looks like the issues are "cleanup" and "neutral point of view." I can remove most of the lengthy "articles" section to keep things more concise/clean and reduce any appearance of promotion. Anything else you would like? Petergries88 (talk) 10:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

listen to me please

The point of Wikipedia is to provide information lmao this site is useless without google so don't use that as a reason for why my page is irrelevant. Wikipedia is supposed to help provide info and help Google. I'm not trying to start shit but you need to understand that you need to base your arguments on something not an opinion. Thedefender35 15:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

based opinions

ok first off an encyclopedia provides information for people to look people, things, words up which WITHOUT GOOGLE wouldn't be happening. please don't play the admin card either dude I am trying to tell you that your argument is non based and there is no reasoning behind it. Also the Wikapedia guidelines state that Wikipedia is written largely by amateurs. Those with expert credentials are given no additional weight. Wikipedia is also not subject to any peer review for scientific, medical, or engineering articles. One advantage of having amateurs write in Wikipedia is that they have more free time on their hands to make rapid changes in response to current events. The wider the general public interest in a topic, the more likely it is to attract contributions from non-specialists. stating that i do not have to listen to you say that this is "advertisement" or "irrelevant". Thedefender35 15:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately for you, you do have to listen to me. Deb (talk) 16:02, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

ummmmmmm i am on your talk page?

what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedefender35 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion:Chinese Rainbow Network

Hi Deb, The Chinese Rainbow Network I created was marked Speedy Deletion because I added a few external links for the said organization in good intention of providing useful information to the readers, also it was my fault that I wasn't completely finished the article when I first created. Since it was marked as Speedy deletion, I already removed the external link section to avoid the impression of promotion (it's not), and I added extended contents about the organization's history. Yet, it was deleted right the way. I am here petition for the recovery of the article, if you disagree, can you get me a copy of the deleted contents? Thanks. YNOT at the Movies (talk) 20:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

The fact that this article was put on Speedy deleted reflects the systematic bias from the Wiki editors. The definition on notability is defined from the perspective of white/English-speaking perspective. If an article addresses a non-English speaking organization but little known to the group of editors, then despite the fact that this organization has a tremendous impact on a large population way more than a local gay men's choir, it will be put on speedy deletion list. The large amount notable evidences for my article's subject isn't on mainstream media (although I didn't have time to locate the link from WSJ's coverage of this organization I wrote about a few years back), I doubt any of those wiki editors have ever come across when they put this under speedy deletion, and it's not as easy as you can cite with an url or a book in this social media age (which is why I didn't include them at the first place). I have no conflict of interest in writing this article and honestly I have been reluctant to spend time to protest the systemic bias from the wiki editors. I think my keeping silent will continue to prolong this trend. It's totally unacceptable! But to be on the record, I want my protest to be heard. YNOT at the Movies (talk)

Ynotswim, We're all aware of this as a potential problem, but your protest would have more meaning if you had made the effort to find some sources to support your contention that this organisation had some notability. We have the guidelines in order to reduce the danger of bias, and the fact that you "didn't have time" to go and find sources, as other people do, suggests that it wasn't that important to you, which effectively nullifies your argument. Deb (talk) 20:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Deb, When I said I didn't have the time perhaps I chose the wrong word which might be misleading. What I really wanted to say was that I found the subject has great merit to have an entry for people who seek information about it, but I didn't have the time at the moment of writing up the article to dig out the so called mainstream media coverage to fit the notability test, because I am just like any volunteer on Wikipedia by doing this at spare time. It's also because it's way harder for an organization whose mainly actives are on a non-English speaking platform but operate in the US and beyond that doesn't have the traditional "coverage" as newspapers or TV coverage that can be easily cited (I do remember there was a WSJ profile story, but I didn't have their subscription in order to access their archives to come up a citation). Here is an example, you have to have an account in order to access contents on 微信公众平台, yet almost every Chinese speaking individual (that's more than a billion people) has one, but I cannot easily link to any coverage to contents on it. I protest the systematic racial bias is because the root of the problem is the so-called rules for creating a new article against writing entries about organizations like this. It makes the writers much harder to create an article that overs a non-white non-English speaking subject and it's much easier for the editors to delete one. It does have dire consequences - it prevents people like myself from creating entries for years so I don't have to spending time to argue why an entry should not be deleted. Your comment implying me didn't try harder is similar to the tactics in voter suppression which set up rules to make it harder for minorities to vote and blaming them not trying hard to prove themselves who can vote. It's time to make some changes! It's 2021 already! YNOT at the Movies (talk)

I don't understand what you mean by "I cannot easily link to any coverage to contents on it". Deb (talk) 17:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

BTW, "systemic" and "systematic" are two different things. Deb (talk) 17:21, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Deb, That's because you view contents on a phone's app, instead of a URL you can cite. If the article I wrote were not marked as Speedy Deletion, I would have more time to get the other citations needed to meet the "notability" requirement. But, no, it's gone less than 24 hours before I could even save a copy of the contents I wrote because I didn't expect it would have such a fate. If each CRN's post can reach tens of thousands of Chinese-speaking LGBT individuals, if it have dispersed scholarship to LGBT students for years, and if it organized numerous webinars to support the Chinese LGBT community, and you tell me that this organization is not fit for Wikipedia's notability test than any of these organizations?! It clearly reflects the systematic racism on Wikipedia. It's time to stop the racism on Wikipedia and stop Asian hate in the society! YNOT at the Movies (talk)

Next time, use the draft facility to create a new article and you will get constructive criticism from more experienced contributors and are less likely to get your article deleted. Drafts don't get deleted for lack of notability, only for advertising. Deb (talk) 18:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Deb, That's precisely my point that the speedy deletion is completely based on one editor's biased judgement as advertising then the article is immediately removed by another editor without even reading it, or perhaps read it but with also biased opinions. The message you sent to me only made me believe that the real reason for the deletion is due to notability because it's not an advertising by any means. I do not advise for anything or anybody, and I only contribute to wikipedia on my spare time for the good to the general public to access information. Yet, I am constantly frustrated by the arrogant attitude from the racially biased Wikipedia editors. Why not send that article back to draft stage and add more constructive comments as you suggested? Instead, it's deleted immediately. YNOT at the Movies (talk)

Why not start it in draft space? And why do you think that it's "completely based on one editor's biased judgement"? No one places those tags or carries out the deletion without reading the article, so it was based on the judgement of at least two people in this case. The bias is all on your side because you want to believe that you wrote a good article. But the truth is that you didn't. If you want to contest it you can always go to a deletion review where other editors can give their opinions as well. Deb (talk) 08:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleted page Justin Kingsley

Hello, I had written to you some weeks ago regarding a page that you deleted. I was still working on it and wanted to improve it and it was a huge amount of work - particularly to find all the references. Please can you allow me to keep working on the page to change and improve it. I want to get better at this but also don't want to lose all that I have already done. If I can have access to the article I can change it and make it a better article. Thank you very much Misletoe20 (talk) 20:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC).

Zeeshan Khan

I think you gave Zeeshan Khan (squash player) a PC protection by mistake. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC) Tbhotch - It was deliberate, as the spammer had been there and is probably still active. Deb (talk) 08:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I asked because you also gave it an indef semi-protection and having both of them set indefinitely is redundant. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Feel free to lift either of them. Deb (talk) 09:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Business Telecommunications Services

Hi Deb, thank you for your comment. I displayed the COI as a sign of good practice, but I feel you undid my work without reading the page? You claim my sources are internal, they are all external and from press articles. You claimed it was promotional, when in reality what I did was eliminate bias from the original page in spanish, that was immediately approved when I did so, and then translated the unbiased version. My COI is minimal, I work for another company and temporarily I'm checking on other companies from my city to make sure that there is a version of their pages in english when they are international. The only "promotion" here is trying to make as much information from this area of northern Spain available. Please, I need to find my article again so I can fix it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pupypau (talk • contribs) 11:58, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Pupypau, please read the guidelines on advertising to which I referred you. Don't try to create new articles until you have some experience. Deb (talk) 12:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Debt, I had already read them since I've spent since November working on my first article. It's been deleted without meeting the speedy deletion criteria. Since you deleted it, I can't even check to see if I find what you are talking about. If it meets the criteria in other wikipedia languages, why you decided it doesn't in english? the page talked about: What kind of company it is. It's history. The type of products they managed since it's an huge industry and telecom doesn’t mean anything anymore. The technology it uses. The associations it participates in. I've spent months learning about the telecom industry and reviewed similar international companies and worte the article in the same fashion. Could I at least recover the text to review it? It has the companies history, since it is history it cannot be biased and now I have no way to access it... Thanks,.

Pupypau, if you keep insisting that you, with your very limited experience, know better than an administrator, I don't see why I should engage with you any further. Deb (talk) 12:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear deb, I'm not fighting to see who knows more, this is not personal. I'm asking for my text back to review it. You are listed on the page of moderators that are willing to give deleted articles info to users, furthermore, in the deletion policy it's stated that I can request access to a copy of my deleted article:

"Any user with a genuine reason to view a copy of a deleted page may request a temporary review (or simply ask an administrator to supply a copy of the page). Note that these requests are likely to be denied if the content has been deleted on legal grounds (such as defamation or copyright violation), or if no good reason is given for the request."

My genuine reason is I don't have a copy of the page, and it is of my creation, not an edit from another user and that has factual information that I'd like to recover in order to be able to review the article and learn so I can participate in the future.

I don't restore promotional content. And please, please get into the habit of signing your posts. Deb (talk) 13:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Deb, the content was not promotional. The speedy deletion criteria also states that it has to be on the grounds of "Unambiguous advertising or promotion material". I don’t see how can you claim that about a company's history, the organizations it participates in and so on... I accept that I have to review my text and learn, in order to be able to perfectly meet the wikipedia guidelines as much as it's possible, but I don't accept the claim that my article was "promotional" because that is simply not true: According to wikipedia: "Promotion (marketing), one of the four marketing mix elements, comprising any type of marketing communication used to inform or persuade target audiences of the relative merits of a product, service, brand or issue" The page you deleted didn't mention product or service attributes, in fact, I had deleted all qualifying adjectives from the spanish draft. My claim, I insist, is not personal. I made a thorough work and I want to be able to review and improve it.

Pupypau, Another experienced user warned you that the page was promotional and advised you to confine yourself to Spanish wikipedia because of your poor English. I will not be answering any further comments you may add to my Talk page. Deb (talk) 13:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Debt, english is my first language, that experienced user was referring to my own request of deleting a draft that was made by mistake so she was replying to my own personal request and my own deletion tag. Please stop trying to discredit me because not "experienced in wikipedia" means nothing in the real world and means nothing regarding my english or my bias. I will now proceed to report your abuse of power and your rude replies to several users, I guess being experienced on wikipedia doesn't mean being professional.

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Year articles

Hi! Excuse me, I was wondering if events had a similar criteria to those of people, if not the same, for inclusion in year articles. Best regards! --NoonIcarus (talk) 20:30, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker), @NoonIcarus, I’m not Deb, but the blanket answer to your question is “yes” events are notable if they satisfy WP:GNG. See WP:EVENTS. Celestina007 (talk) 21:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: Sorry for the late response, hi! Many thanks for the response. My question is related to the format of year specific articles. From what I gather, a convention for including people in them is to check if the article has reliable sources as references, if the person already in the relevant Year in Topic articles and in how many languages does the person have an article. I was wondering if a similar criteria applied for events, or if there were important differences. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

NoonIcarus, in general, events should be treated the same as people. Deb (talk) 12:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Understood, many thanks! --NoonIcarus (talk) 22:57, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Karl Lillrud

Well, well, yuck. There appears to be a long ugly history. I will let the Checkusers and sockpuppet clerks decide who to list as the master account. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Recidivist copyvio

Hi Deb. Yet another user I reported to AIV was removed by MDanielsBot, similar to a separate user I contacted you about last month. This one is Nawzad Shekhany, who reposted copyvio content on his userpage (x2), user talk page, sandbox and draft. I believe they're deserving of a block.

I'm really getting frustrated by AIV. I don't take reporting users there lightly, so it's frustrating to see a bot deleting reports without any admin having evaluated it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Have you asked User:Mdaniels5757 to turn it off? Deb (talk) 18:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

I could, but it looks like it was approved for use last year in response to this ANI thread. I'll talk to them and see if there's a way I can request that it either be turned off, or the threshold time extended. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Drm310 - 4-8 hours seems way too short to me. Deb (talk) 09:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

MDaniels5757 has been inactive for the last two months. I decided to post my concerns here: Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#Concerns about MDanielsBot and AIV. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

No conflict of interest

Hey Deb,

I confirm with 100% certainty there is no conflict of interest between me and the article. My name is Sara Gentile. I am not associated to this company in any shape or form. Therefore, there is no conflict of interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kindindubai (talk • contribs) 08:05, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Komito Analytics

Hi Deb, could you please review my article? I am asking because I saw that you deleted a page with the same name a while ago. Thank you in advance, Carolyn Hodges (talk) 00:42, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Year in ... articles

Hi Deb,

You asked me on my talk page to gain consensus for it, but I'm not sure where I would gain consensus as there are thousands of pages like that.

Thanks, Noah ^💬 12:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	You have the patience of a saint when it comes to dealing with people creating promotional articles about themselves. You explain to them what went wrong and provide fair suggestions. Thank you making Wikipedia a better place. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

MfD Question

I noticed that you deleted Draft:Abhiram_KB linking to the MfD page in the reason, was that meant to be a CSD? — csc^-1 17:58, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Arccosecant, Sorry, should have been a G11. Deb (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, Deb, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! History DMZ (HQ) † (wire) 02:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Deb, I need your help since it its my first time :)

Hi Deb, I recently open a new company page- Identi medical. I tried to write it as informative as I know, and after I've finished, I sent it to preview to get feedback from you guys (As the instructress guide me). But sadly today I received a note from you saying it's an advertisement. So first I apologized but it wasn't my intention at all!. I see all the time pages on Wiki describing different types of companies, I want to do the same. If there are sentences that may look like an advertisement, I'll remove them, but please don't cancel the entire page, how can I avoid writing certain facts (which I know are true) that you consider advertisement if I can tell the difference? When I submitted the draft to review, I thought I will get comments and be able to make the requested adjustments. I read all the guidelines you have, but it's hard to understand all the rules without any assistance on a live example. Please advise me. (Orlorl (talk) 13:59, 30 March 2021 (UTC)) orlorl

/* Later life */ correction to the erroneous claim that Angela Myers was Terry Thomas' sister-in-law.

I see that you have undone my correction to the article on Norman Josiffe. The sister-in-law information is completely erroneous. Norman V. Josiffe/Scott was married to Angela Mary Susan Myers, she had one sister, Maria Louise Myers, who was not married to Terry Thomas. Terry was married in 1938 to Ida F. Patlansky/Stern and in 1963 to Anne E. Cunningham. The suggestion that he was Norman's brother-in-law comes from the author of 'A Very English Scandal' who suggested that Terry-Thomas' wife was 'Belinda Myers', sister of 'Sue' (Angela Mary Susan Myers) wife of Norman Scott. Author John Preston's information about this is incorrect. Norman Scott is not referenced in Terry Thomas' biographies, so the information given in the wikipedia article for Norman Josiffe comes from a novel and a tv adaptation (that includes the information on Wikipedia about the speech given by Norman's father-in-law at the wedding) rather than reputable sources. Surely this does not meet any Wikipedia criteria for acceptable sources; can we please edit the article to give reliable information.

How do you expect me to reply to you if you don't sign? Deb (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not really interested in a reply, just in seeing the Norman Josiffe page reverted to facts, rather than spurious claims based on a novel.Saint Michael 2010 (talk) 10:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for cleaning up all the pages I've been tagging as G12! Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

No, Asartea, thank you. You're doing the hard work. Deb (talk) 10:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

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Draft:Emmanuel Motelin deleted by CommanderWaterford

Hi there, you can find the google knowledge panel here: https://g.co/kgs/qH56TS

No idea what point you are trying to make, sorry. Deb (talk) 10:51, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Request for a copy of the deleted Rainer Höss article

Hey there, I found your name at Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Would you be willing to provide me a copy of the article, ideally in my user space at User:Caius G./Rainer Höss? It has been deleted as a soft delete. Thanks! Caius G. (talk) 15:07, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

WWN

In this edit, you added the Weekly World News as a reference for something. I have removed the reference; it would be difficult to state how badly WWN fails WP:RS. --JBL (talk) 16:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

You deleted my page... I worked on it for days and was harassed by the users on here.

User:JamesLucas

Deb, I appreciate all the good works you've done on the months project over more than a decade, and your recent discussion with JamesLucas on his revisions of the format of these pages. It appears that he has a history of this what I would call revision for the sake of revision; I posted this note on his page:

• Mr. Lucas, I am joining User:Deb in asking that you not do further revisions of the formatting of the "Months of the 20th century" articles that our project participants have been using for more than 10 years when researching and writing . I'm gathering from the discussion in Template talk:Same date that this may have been an extension of removing blue links from the headings, although the substitute you've proposed ("For the same date in other years, see ______" ) after every date is more distracting than having a blue link within the title of the heading. I'm gathering that you're doing this based on the MOS:HEADINGS statement that headings within an article should not include blue links, although I would note that it's a recommendation rather than a mandate. There are literally hundreds of articles in the "Months of the 20th century" project, added to and maintained by a group of people who are dedicated to citing to reliable and verifiable sources, and who regularly patrol the pages for unverifiable additions. Certainly, we would appreciate having you as part of the project in adding information. However, I think I speak for all of us in saying that the revision of the format of each article is unnecessary and that we would prefer that you concentrate on a different project." I think that those of us who have invested a lot of time in creating, updating and maintaining these pages should probably form a group of our own and come to a statement about the format of these pages. If there are any regulars that you know who might be interested, please let me know. Thanks. Mandsford 18:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Retaliation for tagging articles for AfD

Deb, as an experienced user I'd like your advise on how to move forward with slanderous accusations of blackmail against my name. I remember there being a policy that any accusations should be cemented with ironclad proof otherwise be struck but I cannot quite find the policy. Please do advise the proper channel where I can bring this issue to proper attention. Thank you in advance! Nearlyevil665 (talk) 08:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I've added my comments to your response. However, I'm not sure that striking the accusations is the right way to go, as they could be useful evidence if this user returns under another guise. I tend to keep any abuse and false accusations made against me for future reference. Deb (talk) 08:31, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. I guess I was not clear enough. I didn't suggest outright removal, but simply striking through the accusations made as to make it clear for an external observer the claim was unsubstantiated. This is the first time I'm being slandered so I might be taking it to personally. I assume this sort of things naturally come with being active at AfDs. Thanks anyhow! Nearlyevil665 (talk) 08:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

They do. Even more so for an admin. Just look at the state of my Talk page! Deb (talk) 08:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Remind me never to become a Wikipedia admin then! Nearlyevil665 (talk) 08:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Grand Rounds, Inc. Deleted Page

Hi Deb -

I'm reaching out because you deleted the Grand Rounds, Inc. Wikipedia page. I updated it earlier in the week to include the company's recent merger with Doctor on Demand which was cited in CNBC and other reputable publications. Can you reinstate the page? I'm not sure what the marketing language or conflict of interest was. I do work with Grand Rounds and can disclose that properly (I didn't know I needed to!), but I made sure that the page didn't have marketing language.

Can you help? The page has been live for many years.

Kelsie

Deletion of sandboxed page Fluxim AG

Hi You tagged my sandboxed page for rapid deletion and it has subsequently been deleted. My mistake, I assumed the sandbox was my space for working things out before publishing. I wanted to post an article about our company as I had seen the very same from competitors in our field. Could you explain why this article is allowed on Wikipedia Zurich Instruments as this is the template I used? Darren at Fluxim AG (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Darren at Fluxim AG. You're right in thinking the sandbox is a space for working on your own articles, but promotional content is not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia. Your user name makes it clear that you have a conflict of interest about which you haven't yet made the required declaration. Thanks for pointing me to the Zurich Instruments article, which was created a very long time ago but has obviously been edited more recently by someone connected with that company - I will be looking into that. However, two wrongs don't make a right, so you will still need to abide strictly by the guidelines if you attempt to recreate the article. I suggest you use draft space for that purpose. Deb (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Grand Rounds, Inc. Deleted Page

Hi Deb -

I received your comment this morning on disclosing my COI on the Grand Rounds page. Since the page has already been deleted, how would I do this? Thank you!

Kelsie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaxelrod (talk • contribs) 15:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Deb -

I've resubmitted the Grand Rounds, Inc. page for review. I'm wondering how long it will take to be approved? The wiki site says up to 5 months?

Kelsie

Request for Draft of Deleted Article

Hi Deb

I noticed you speady delected my article Penzaboy Management. I am asking if you can please share it on my talk so i can work on it.

Best 10MB (talk) 07:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, 10MB, but I don't restore promotional content (and your talk page is the wrong place anyway). In any case, the article consists mainly of a list of names with inadequate referencing so it would be better for you to start again - in draft space, please. Also, don't forget to disclose your conflict of interest as previously requested. Deb (talk) 07:49, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

thank you for saving in draft

At Draft:Berkeley Institute International do you know some changes I could make to make it read better?

I was trying for neutrality not advertisement which is why I wrote "purported to" but maybe I should go further and look for criticism and stuff?

I'm wondering if since the BII seems rather new if perhaps it would just make more sense to have an article about Kenneth Matsumura and list the names of the organizations he's run.

Given the change in name it's actually kinda suspicious and anyone seeking some alleged cutting-edge cancer treatment (likely expensive) would probably benefit from knowing past history like suing Arnold and past organization name. WakandaQT (talk) 00:41, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

AN/I Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Sudipto Surjo - template disruption, unilateral page moves and disregard for collaboration. Thank you. DÅRTHBØTTØ _(T•C) 08:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Group discussion on Category:Months in the 20th century articles

• Deb, thank you for suggesting the possibility of working out a compromise on the Category:Months in the 20th century articles that you and I and others have been working on over the past decade. I've sent out notices to other major participants, User:Freeman1856, User:Zee money, and to whomever else I can find who is active in the project. Basically, the message is "We're having a discussion among the contributors about a basic framework. You're invited to participate at [5]. Mandsford 15:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Contact needed.

Hi Deb, Kindly share your phone number with me for an important discussion. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellymensa (talk • contribs) 08:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:European Clinic Maldives

Hi Deb. Nabyl8899 has recreated Draft:European Clinic Maldives for the third time, having paid no attention to the warnings on their talk page. Clearly nothere. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Curb Safe Charmer - Thanks. Sorted. Deb (talk) 09:25, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Added COI to Kaxelrod Talk Page

Hi Deb - I've added my COI about Grand Rounds, Inc to my talk page. Can you reinstate the Wikipedia page for Grand Rounds?

Kelsie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaxelrod (talk • contribs) 16:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft Solar Aqua after discussion with your collegues

Hi I'm Matteo sacch, and I would like to request the undeletion of this draft deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page (FIRST VERSION) so that I can make edits to it. Thank you.Matteo sacch Matteo sacch (talk) 12:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Matteo sacch, I don't restore promotional content. If you want to make another attempt, please start from scratch, this time observing the guidelines. Deb (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help

Hi Deb, I need to create my company's Wikipedia page but don't know how to write it neutrally. Can you please help me?

If you are from India, can we please discuss over a quick call? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AkhileshP writer (talk • contribs) 18:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Article deletion

Dear Deb,

It's unfortunate that my article was deleted yet again, as I carefully removed all of the "promotional" language mentioned in previous feedbacks. I also sought assistance from people outside the organization to use neutral language, but this did not appear to be effective. Could you please specify which phrases/sections of the text violate Wikipedia's policies so that I can publish the article without being blocked?

Thanks in advance, Sophiaraineri (talk) 06:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please guide me/us for how to recover the pages about Sandeep Sander and SanderMap

Hi Deb, I am Sandeep Sander, CEO of SanderMap. First of all I have to express my deep respect for Wikipedia. Great concept and I am very proud of being involved. It also means a lot to other people that i am listed - a kind of recognition of my contributions to a better world and many people. You have yesterday deleted both pages with reference to "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I am not a Wikipedia expert - I got listed and SanderMap got listed in relation to my contributions to "Innovation for Jobs" (I4J). I4J is a team of volunteers with high ambitions to "contribute to a better World". I am honoured to be invited and I am the only person from Denmark in the group. I4J is headed by Vint Cerf (co-inventor of the internet), and among the other members are Esther Wojcicki (Silicon Valleys Grandmother, who supported the start of Google and the mother of Susan W, CEO of Youtube), Astro Teller (Captain of Moonshots, Alphabet X/Google X), Steve Jurveston (Hotmail, SpaceX, Tesla) and others who have made impact. My humble contributions are around Employability and LifeLong Learning and strategy & management development. Among those who have listen to my messages are Prime Minister Modi, India (he invited me to a conference already in 2013) and Henrik Dam Kristensen, Chairman of the Parliament in Denmark.

I/we hope these examples are sufficient to enable us to guide me to what to change, in order to comply with Wikipedia rules and regulations? Should I (and/or others) make a recovery request and then change? Do you recommend I involve others? Who? I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you in advance for your constructive contributions to me. Life is not easy at present. I do not know what time zone you are in (I am in Copenhagen), but feel free to respond to my email sandeep@sander.dk or here I look very much forward to hearing from you Best regards Sandeep SandeepSander 10:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC) ≈≈≈≈ SandeepSander 10:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC) The photo shows HE Ambassador Freddy Svane, Ambassador for Denmark to India, and me in New Delhi last week. Despite all the Corona challenges I flew from Denmark to India and contributed to "the Green Partnership" between the two countries. I my humble understanding it is a recent proof of my impact and hence why it makes sense to recover the pages in Wikipedia

Thanks for your feedback

Hi Deb, Many thanks for your feedback. I did not create the page myself - but I did update it. I was not aware this was wrong. Can you guide me/us to the easiest "getting back" i.e. the present text is requested recovered by a "person not related to me, who has credibility"? Is this the best way forward or ? Best regards Sandeep

Sorry, you won't be getting it back. I don't restore promotional content. Deb (talk) 10:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi agian Deb, I am not sure what "promotional content" is? If I did anything wrong, please tell me what is was. I am also grateful if you can guide me to "next step" Some times the best proof of good intention is when people (like me) have no clue on what the problem was- but willingness to listen, act and get forward in a positive way :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SandeepSanderSanderMan (talk • contribs) 11:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please follow the advice I gave on your Talk page. Additionally, you could read the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view guidelines. Deb (talk) 11:08, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

LifeOmic Page Deletion

Hi Deb,

Thanks for your notes on the LifeOmic page. I will take those under advisement and would like to re-create that page and re-submit.

Thanks again, Hedgerly17 (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2021 (UTC)Hannah

Re: John Michael Fuerzas Jalaron (Writer) deleted page

This is me, John Michael Jalaron aka Deigthon Jeighps. I am not writing this letter to appeal for the speedy deletion of my wiki page since I fully understood the determining factors responsible for the said action. This is merely to explain myself.

I must admit the abrupt deletion of the said article/page caught me off-guard and initially made me feel bad, considering that article was not intended to promote, market or advertise myself as a writer although to wikipedia standards that was likely the case hence the deletion.

I only wanted to retrieve a copy of that article so I can use it for my own reference. The problem with your so-called speedy deletion is, it doesn't acknowledge efforts from the writer and completely omit the article out of wiki system with no means of retrieving it even if you own the article or wrote it. I couldn't even find a trace or history of it on my page where it used to be. YOU PROCEEDED TO DELETE THE ARTICLE WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION. AND THAT IS RATHER SAD AND OFFENSIVE.

I am requesting for a copy of that page and hoping to get a response as soon as possible.

This is you, the author and subject of the article, which you created in draft and never submitted for review. None of your versions of the article will be restored, because you have a major conflict of interest. Your purpose in editing was solely to write about yourself and you have not attempted to create or edit any article about any other subject. You do not "own" the article; no one does. Calling other people names won't help. If you meet the Wikipedia notability criteria, you can request an article about yourself here: Wikipedia:Requested_articles#Biography Deb (talk) 07:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Powermate generators!

See Powertech Asia Pacific, Inc. , by Astridceline. Thanks--- Possibly (talk) 06:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Alexis de Bernede and Darmo Art

Hi Deb, I have read all criteria on speedy deletion and specifically I have read G11(unambiguous advertising or promotion), which the two articles deleted were tagged for. I saw the speedy deletion request tags by a user and I went through the articles so I could work on it. The articles didn't violate G11 in any way. The articles were deleted by you before i could contest the tags. These pages is not a blatant promotion of the subjects. All claims are backed by references from independent sources. Any reference not independent is a link to an exhibition that has already been referenced. I didn't violate any copyright. And the contents are sufficient for a Wikipedia page. Please, help me look into this. I know you put in a lot of work as a Wikipedia Admin, I also try to do so as a Wikipedia editor. Thanks, Deb. Pete Is Black (talk) 19:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Alexis de Bernede: First, I wrote about how he is raised by a specialist in art. Well, an article by Beaux Art magazine about him and his company talked about how he was raised by an art specialist and a press agent(did not specify the gender). Link (https://www.beauxarts.com/grand-format/ces-galeristes-nouvelle-generation-qui-nont-pas-de-galeries/?fbclid=IwAR0WkyDquj8f8hDHYl9Bv5R9iD7GJC0g1-0zVIc-mzuHAg-fNa2c-enWubY). Beaux Art, like lots of publications and magazines is paywalled so you might not be able to read it. I can do something about that if you want me to. I wrote about his company and the 2nd article deleted, Darmo Art, being a fast-rising company. Well, it appears so. It started in 2017 and it has done exhibitions in legendary galleries according to publications from independent sources - something not usual in the world of art. However, this part could arguable seem offpoint and I'd be willing to change that. I wrote about two successful exhibitions with Salvatore Ferragamo. Well, I backed that up and from the article, it was said that Salvatore Ferragamo wanted to work with them again because of the first one being successful. Luxury Touch is an independent source, I looked that up. https://luxury-touch.com/darmo-art-x-salvatore-ferragamo-lart-de-pauline-dandigne/

These are areas that probably caused the Editor, who tagged my post for deletion, to do that. But these are not promotional. They are facts. Verified facts Pete Is Black (talk) 21:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Darmo Art: As regards Darmo Art, I don't even understand why the page got tagged for Deletion based on G11. Perhaps, because I repeated a reference twice. I repeated only 1 reference twice. Out of 8 references, I repeated only one twice. I had ten references in total. Deb, The pages don't deserve outright deletion. Pete Is Black (talk) 21:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for leaving lots of messages on your talk page, Deb. But I had to clarify.

Thanks and welldone Pete Is Black (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Draft:Ulf Büntgen

Hello Deb,

You have deleted the page Draft:Ulf Büntgen. I kindly ask you to actually read the page and then reconsider.

Please revisit the article to see that it is NOT a promotional page. There is NO ADVERTISING of any sort. The content of the article is in the same format as the articles featuring colleagues that Ulf Büntgen works closely with (i.e. Clive Oppenheimer, Christine Lane, Jan Esper, etc).

The only difference I can see is that I was honest in stating that I am Ulf Büntgen's wife and that this is my first article. I have nevertheless studied the Wikipedia guidelines closely over the past days before writing this article. "Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective" - and this is what I have done, even though we are related.

So please: have another look and reconsider. At the very least I would like to retrieve the deleted material for future reference.

Thank you! Chribue (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

May I please have the content of the deleted article to practice on in my Sandbox? It would be a shame to start from scratch. Thank you! --Chribue (talk) 17:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Again: thank you very much for your concise clarifications! I can now see that you delved into the subject and took the time to do some research on Ulf's work. Yes, we will work on the LALIA article. He was indeed the discoverer of this phenomenon, as you can see by the fact that his name is the first one in the list of names of the main publication; meaning he is the lead author. But I realize that this is not enough to clarify that he is the main person. I will take your advice for sure! I was just wondering if the article can be restored to my sandbox so I don't have to start from scratch? Thanks again for your help and input!--Chribue (talk) 17:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC) Chribue (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Draft:Ulf Büntgen

May I please have the content of the deleted article to practice on in my Sandbox? It would be a shame to start from scratch. Thank you! --Chribue (talk) 17:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Deleted articles

Hello, Deb. I am CricketXP. I noticed you that Overlap Bunko article has speedily deleted. I am apologize for my second mistakes during this time (before this, I made the same cases (Kadokawa Books red.)). I am promise to write an article carefully and try to be neutral and non-promotional references, although it takes time, since I am not familiar with the rules. Thank you and enjoy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CricketXP (talk • contribs) 10:58, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Arkadia Jazz post

This is my first post and it was taken down because it was considered promotional. I would like to revise this to take out any promotional inferences. How do I do this? I am Treborkar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Treborkar (talk • contribs) 16:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Komito Analytics

Hi @Deb, could you please review my draft once again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Komito_Analytics

Thank you, Carolyn Hodges (talk) 00:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

CarolynHodges, I don't think the sources you've used are good enough to demonstrate notability. I doubt this will pass review, but others may disagree. Deb (talk) 07:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

AN/I Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Sudipto Surjo's block expires and they immediate resume their disruptive conduct. Thank you. DÅRTHBØTTØ _(T•C) 01:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Deb Im Phantom Digital I Was Just Wondering If We Can Chat about helping me learn more about Wikipedia

Sincerly, PD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantom Digital (talk • contribs) 02:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the draft "Cremades & Calvo-Sotelo"

Hi Deb, after the speedy deletion of the article "Cremades & Calvo-Sotelo" I am very grateful for your action of passing it to the draft format: to give me the opportunity to reform it. After having read it in a rigorous way, the article can be promotional. So I will try in the draft to be very demanding and remove all this information. My job is to try to make compatible the rigorous information of the facts complying with Wikipedia rules, that's why I advise several companies, and so it appears in my user page, but I will also include this information in the talk article. Together we make a better Wikipedia, thank you --Ursulabela (talk) 10:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi :Deb, I have followed your instructions about Draft:Cremades & Calvo-Sotelo, albeit 2 or 3 weeks later... and I have also placed the paid editing template. I have deleted many paragraphs and synthesized others so that it does not appear in any way that the article is promotional.
I wish you could review it and if possible publish it that would be great. Thank you very much --Ursulabela (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm willing to read the article mentioned in your e-mail if you want to send it via Wikipedia e-mail. Thanks. Deb (talk) 10:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Desigual article

Hi Deb: I have reviewed the article "Desigual" and have removed some content that may be considered promotional. As there is a conflict of interest, I cannot delete the maintenance template, so I would appreciate it if you could review it and delete it, thank you very much.--Ursulabela (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2021 (UTC)--Ursulabela (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2021 (UTC) Ursulabela, I feel that there is work still to be done to improve the promotional aspect. Deb (talk) 10:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Deb, I have asked other more experienced editors for help in Desigual article and have been helped by User talk:David notMD. He has removed promotional type info in several paragraphs and also moved one of the headings, giving more importance to the company's historical journey. What do you think now? Is it already ok to remove the promotional template? Thank you very much for your help,--Ursulabela (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi :Deb following your instructions of last April 26, in Desigual article I have proceeded to remove more phrases that could be considered promotional, the beginning of the paragraph "Development" as well as the list or commercial network. I have introduced references in the "Alliances" section and also in each of the countries mentioned in the commercial network. Now, if you could review it and if you deem it appropriate, that you could delete the promotional template. Thank you very much --Ursulabela (talk) 14:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

deleted article

hello Deeb you delete an article because its an advertising and its not please can you resubmit it . Saidghzayel (talk) 18:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the comment you wrote on that kid's talk page. When patrolling for bad pages, I tend to encounter things like that at least half the time. I thought it was genuinely a WP:NOTHERE violation. I'll try not to WP:BITE next time. Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Workingepskeiskxkke

hello! I think it might be time to block Workingepskeiskxkke, the creator of the infamous bicycles in the closet registry pages, aka "Stein Education Center bicycle roster".--- Possibly (talk) 07:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Nflow

Hi,@Deb:. Thanks for your comment. I thought the article maintained a neutral perspective but I agree that it has lack of official source. It was the first time that I created an article, so I may not fulfill the some standards of Wikipedia. Is it possible for me to write about the same topic again with more neutral tone? I will try to find more officially published resources such as news, studies, or etc. LynnEri(talk) 09:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response@Deb:. I will declare my interest first. If you think that my interest is appropriate to create an article, I will write an article with the same topic again. If you consider my interest does not suit with Wikipedia standard, I won't rewrite. My interest was very simple. Since there are many international CFD(simulation) software pages in Wikipedia such as Ansys, Siemens, and Comsol but no CFD(simulation) software page from Korea.I wanted to introduce Korea also has its own CFD software.LynnEri(talk)

Sankha Subhra Devbarman

Hi. You moved this article to draftspace yesterday. The editor promptly recreated it in mainspace, rather than working on the draft. The new article does not have anywhere near the promotional tone of the prior one. As per WP:DRAFTIFY, if there is an objection to draftifying, then the article should be in mainspace and adjudicated there. However, should I tag the draft for deletion? There's also the unusual circumstance that this rather new editor has changed his username through a page move rather than going through Wikipedia:Changing username#Venues. Finally, there also is the issue of potential UPE, since the photo in the article was taken by editor. Thoughts?Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Deb,

My page - Adel Farooq was deleted from Wiki in the last 24 hours. Can you kindly share the exact reason and help me with the locations on the article that need to be rephrased so I can action it promptly and get my page back. Many thanks for your kind consideration in the matter. Look forward to your prompt response.

regards, Adel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smohammed7866 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Request for Reverse Deletion of page

Hi Deb,

Many thanks for the information. I would request if you or the team can reverse the deletion and give me a temporary link, where i can re-edit the articles and share for approval with the team. I had put a lot of efforts to reach here. Your assistance can help people know me better. I have researched and understood on how my article should be put out to the community. Re-creating a new page will be a long process in that aspect. Request your help in the matter.

regards, Adel

TPA

Hi Deb. Because of Special:Diff/1020142195, you might want to revoke A Music Series's talk page access. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Draftify Xaare

Hello Deb,

I hope you are doing well. Please let me know how I can improve the Wikipedia page on Xaare. Kindly recover the deleted page and please have it moved to drafts so that I can use a neutral tone and make changes to it that will make it eligible for encyclopedic content.

Yours Sincerely, Takeshi Djome Takeshidjome (talk) 12:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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why was my article on Mobolaji Ayorinde Deleted

The said biography was carefully reviewed by top reviewers and I took the time and effort to follow all their suggestions and corrections. On no account was any advertising content published except you just decided to misinterpreted what you saw or you just have a negative opinion of people in that category. You didn't even state your evidence just deleted a biography I spent weeks researching on for what! you don't just go ahead deleting peoples effort and hard work. Many wiki reviewer sent me suggested edits on things they feel I should edit and many of them edited some parts for me and even helped me categorize it. You could have sent me a mail or message to help correct it not just suggest deletion for something you considered ccs you were in a bad mood! I want my article back cos I know it is legit! and not vandalism. If you had a problem with it you could have helped me edit it not create unnecessary stress for me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysticmindz (talk • contribs) 09:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Clearly, you have not yet understood how Wikipedia works. Please go and read the guidelines for new users. Deb (talk) 09:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

EssentiallySports page deleted

Hi,

Can you please let me know the specific reason for deleting my submission of the "EssentiallySports" page? I created the EssentiallySports page as a reader and I regularly read news from this website across many sports on Google news for many years. I believe the community will find this information useful as they are a notable publisher. It is also a major sports news website and the page contained all the reference links that I could find.

As explained previously, it has been deleted because it was written in the form of an advertisement. This is not allowed, even for notable companies. Deb (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I appreciate the prompt clarification. I now understand the content was perceived as advertorial (as mentioned in sections CSD G11 and CSD A7). However, as a Wikipedia contributor for sports-related content, that wasn't my intention. I will reorganize the content such that it reads objective and factual. Please let me know if there are any specific suggestions you have on the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpjastes1995 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I recommend you create the revised article in draft space and submit for review. Don't move it straight into article space. Deb (talk) 11:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. I will do the needful.

Deleting AD Maddox

Greetings, A.D. Maddox requested the periods be removed from her name. Is that why it was deleted? I would like to contest the deletion. All I did was add more articles she's been published in and link to companies that use her artwork in their products. Is that a problem? I don't' have a clear idea of what was done incorrectly. Thanks in advance for clarifying. Yodielay (talk) 18:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Are you saying you know the subject and she asked you to amend the article about her? That is a conflict of interest. But it was deleted because it was promotionally worded, not because it had been moved. Deb (talk) 18:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

How do we get the page restored, that was there for five years? Can you simply revert to the older page? She needed her location and photos updated. If I were to change my status to a paid contributor could I still make edits? Yodielay (talk) 21:35, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Your advice

@Deb: Hallo. I created a new article IThemba LABS by translating from the Afrikaans language version. The proper title should have been iThemba LABS i.e. an initial non-capitalised letter. How can I fix this? Ear-phone (talk) 06:54, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

recover the draft about montik ivan

I took a closer look at the article writing guidelines. It happened out of inexperience. Can you recover the draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Montik,_Ivan) and let me rework the piece?

I can also now indicate the encyclopedic significance of the materials and maintain the neutral tone of the article. Coldmanviktor (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Is it seriously free ?

I have added a business I was searching for it online so I found a list of similar business on Wikipedia and I thought I should add it, somehow Wikipedia listing was making me curies so I have tried, it was removed and saying the content was kind of advertisement, I did not use any marketing word but when I saw Wikipedia's notification, it says because of the external link.

Now I don't know how to present a screenshot showing business profiles with their website, please do not confuse people, and whatever is your policy ask for it, do not just put 10 pages of nonsense complicated words and when you see another profile of the big company with all social links and websites, it seems like racism on small or new companies, do not have you any external link in whole Wikipedia? if I person is creating a profile of an ice cream shop he will write 2 lines and then a website founded date and founders etc, So this is what I have done.

What bothers you? Wikipedia is not a blog it's a huge platform so simply upload a format for companies to fill and make their profile and make people's life easy or else do not just talk nonsense when you cant take a small step then what a user should do? MSC in Wikipedia? Google, Facebook, Instagram or any big platform gives a simple process of being verified or you enjoy people get into complicated Wikipedia do not know how to register and you keep deleting their content Let me tell you how to be sensible, making people read your 10 page of terms is harder than creating a form for business and give them options you want as per your policy, If you also forgot your policy then let me paste the link you guys paste it here to us, Its disgusting — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moosakk1985 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

1. Who are you?
2. Why do you think I run Wikipedia?
3. Why do you think Wikipedia is here for you to advertise yourself?
4. Why do you think Wikipedia is a form of social media?
5. What does "curies" mean? Deb (talk) 05:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

About Deletion of page CONSEQUENCE KARMA

Please let me know how can I make a page with no objections which consequently led to its deletion... I tried to make the page as un-biased as possible... The guidelines provided by Wikipedia are so complexly written that a simple person like me is unable to follow them I guess... I made this page by checking out some other pages of similar topics and wrote the things as much similar to them as possible. Still it was deleted.

Please give me an example, and I'll follow that to the point to make the article Wikipedia would allow putting on.

Thanks & regards --Shaahedk (talk) 11:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Mandeep Kaur Sidhu

It is very heartening that you have deleted my recently created page and even you could improve the same. It is discouraging and realizes me that I wasted my time on this creativity.HariSinghw (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

It can't be both heartening and discouraging, can it? Deb (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes it can be both heartening and discouraging Please provide copy of the content for making it Draft:Mandeep Kaur Sidhu. Thanks in anticipation. HariSinghw (talk) 11:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please help in this regard. HariSinghw (talk) 12:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

You chose to ignore my advice, even though you say you agree with it. So no, I won't restore your substandard draft. Deb (talk) 12:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Joel Birch

Hi. Thanks for your edit here. Could you also have a look at Joel Birch as a similar situation exists there. Thanks. --John B123 (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

John B123, I did look at it but I wasn't sure if it fell into the same category. However, if you choose to redirect it, I will protect it. Deb (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. --John B123 (talk) 19:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Cut it out

I don't know who you think you are but I do NOT appreciate hours of work being undone. I don't know what gives you the right to undo other peoples work. You claim I am editing warring yet it feels like quite the opposite for me. I contribute to wikipedia and you trash it. Yeah, I'm not edit warring, buddy.

Draft Phenix Center for Economic and Informatics Deleted

Hi Deb,

Thank you for moving the Phenix Center for Economic and Informatics Studies article back into draft space - I am a relatively inexperienced Wiki editor and did not realize that the tone of the article was promotional rather than encyclopedic. I have read the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view guidelines, which have provided me with some clarification as you suggested on my talk page but I still am confused. As I understand it, as I have no COI to declare, my next step would be to edit the article to remove any external links that are affiliated with the organization and promotional language, and then publish it for review.

However, with regards to external links, many of the articles that are published in English mention PCEIS' research in detail and the organization briefly (for a line or two), while the articles in Arabic are more in-depth. Should I use the Arabic references on the English wiki page? Or would it be preferable to create this article in ar.wikipedia.org rather than the English wiki?

I'm not sure if you would know the answer to these questions, but your help is appreciated. Thanks for the work you do for Wikipedia!

Jananteeni (talk) 11:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Jananteeni

Jananteeni - Non-English references are allowed, but not to the exclusion of English-language ones. For more help, see Wikipedia:Citing sources and other guidelines that this will lead you to. Additional questions can be asked at Wikipedia:Teahouse. Deb (talk) 11:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification and for linking the Teahouse. I will check it out and ask my other questions there. Have a nice day! Jananteeni (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Jananteeni

Speedy Deletion Tag of Emerging Markets Institute (EMI)

Hi Deb,

We appreciate your comments. Could you please provide suggestions on how to make it more objective, rather than outright deleting the page? That way we can add the improvements to the page. Moreover, we don't believe this page is promotional. There is no advertising in here. This page does not differ from that of similar institutes that have been approved (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_Institute_for_Public_Affairs) or even broader universities such as this one (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Curtis_Johnson_Graduate_School_of_Management). If you see a difference between our pages and these ones, let us know what we can do to improve it, rather than once again, outright deleting our page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor1141528 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

IAG Research Request for Feedback

Hi Deb. I saw that you speedily deleted the IAG Research page right after WikiAviator approved it. I have a COI as I’ve indicated on my page and in the Talk page for IAG Research, and I was very careful to write a neutral account of the company. I don’t think it was promotional at all (in fact, there is nothing to promote; this company was sold many years ago to Nielsen) and I went through every line with previous editors to ensure each line was neutral.

On my draft, an editor named Theroadislong only called out one line in the draft that sounded promotional--“"leading provider of advertising effectiveness rating"--which I updated. See my Talk page for those details. I have since cleaned up that line and the draft was completely neutral and non-promotional.

If you think it needs more work, please let me know and I’ll return it to a draft and keep working on it. I have sources and I’m trying to be as neutral as possible despite my COI and I’m happy to keep working on it. I don’t think this page was at all “unambiguously” promotional.

I’m very happy to get the feedback of other editors. I will put the draft back up on my Sandbox so everyone can review it.

Thank you,

Alan (Alan D. Gould (talk) 19:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC))

Modifying my User Page

Hello, I've just noticed that you modified my User Page (deleting a sentence linking to my public professional Twitter profile). Why did you do this? Cjslaby (talk) 00:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines for user pages specifically allow for the inclusion of "limited autobiographical content," which is exactly what my user page consisted of. As well as a link to my Twitter account, which is also perfectly acceptable based on the guidelines. I am not "promoting" myself. I am describing who I am and the "fields [I] have knowledge in," as Wikipedia itself outlines. I can't believe someone would first modify and then delete someone else's entire user page simply for them giving a brief bio of who they are! Especially when that has direct relevance to my activities on Wikipedia. To modify and then delete (!) a user's page like this seems particularly inappropriate. Cjslaby (talk) 13:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Please don't try and instruct me in what user pages allow. "Limited autobiographical content" does not include self-promotion, which is what you were doing. No one here needs to know your "public professional Twitter profile". Deb (talk) 14:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Deb, as someone who worked with this user a couple times and believes they're working in good faith, I'm curious why their link to twitter was considered self promotion? It obviously happens all the time, so was it just the fact that they called it a professional account? That seems like a wording question that could have been fixed without G11'ing the page. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I’m not promoting or advertising myself by linking to my Twitter account. My Twitter account is my primary account on the internet and thus it serves as a sort of homepage. I do not have a personal website, otherwise I would link to that. My Twitter account is not commercial. Nor do I gain anything professionally or commercially by listing my bio and linking to my Twitter account on Wikipedia (and what's more, apparently I get headaches like this). Also, not only am I allowed to describe who I am (especially as it relates to being on Wikipedia), I think it makes sense to do so. I think it’s good and important for people on the internet to be transparent and honest about who they are and, for example, what qualifications or other background they might have for engaging in particular activities (like editing specific Wikipedia pages). I am allowed to do this based on the rules and guidelines of Wikipedia and so I shall. Cjslaby (talk) 14:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

No, you are not allowed to. If you want people to contact you privately, they can do so via the Wikipedia e-mail facility. There is nothing to stop you telling people who you are, but it was very clear from your wording that you were trying to promote yourself and this won't be allowed. Deb (talk) 14:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I am. It has nothing to do with people contacting me; in fact I can assure you that I did not link my Twitter there so that it would be a way for people to contact me. I listed it because it it my primary home on the internet and it gives more information and more of a sense of who I am. You say there is nothing to stop me telling people who I am, but that's not quite true, as you just deleted me entire user page, so in fact you are here trying to stop me from simply telling people who I am. I have no idea what you mean about the wording. I think I said something like "You can also find him on Twitter @CJSlaby." As I just said above, I gain nothing, either professionally or commercially, from including a link to my Twitter account on my Wikipedia user page. I am not "promoting" myself, I am simply being open, honest, and transparent about who I am. This is about linking to a Twitter account on a Wikipedia bio page. I can't believe the things that people get riled up on here about. This site apparently runs on consensus and its own rules and guidelines, which I can read as well as you. I am allowed to describe myself in my bio, as well as link to an innocuous Twitter account. I believe it was inappropriate of you to first modify and then delete my entire user page. Please desist in these rude, disruptive, and inappropriate activities. Cjslaby (talk) 14:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

"You say there is nothing to stop me telling people who I am, but that's not quite true, as you just deleted me entire user page." This is a misrepresentation. You initially objected to me making a minor change to your user page to remove the Twitter details ("my public professional Twitter profile"), leaving the rest intact. This strongly suggests that you want people to check out your Twitter account for reasons that can have nothing to do with the encyclopedia. I advise you to bear in mind that no one here cares whether you are a professional historian, the President of the United States or a primary school pupil; everyone has an equal right to edit and no one is exempted from following the guidelines. Deb (talk) 15:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

"This strongly suggests that you 'want' people to check out your Twitter account for reasons that can have nothing to do with the encyclopedia." You're not in a position to make such a claim, and I'm here telling you that that was not my intent or purpose; and in fact that the opposite is true: that I linked to my Twitter account specifically because it was and is relevant to my activities here in the sense that it explains who I am, what I'm interested in, and why; and as I've now said multiple times, it's my home base on the internet and so I think it's perfectly appropriate and within Wikipedia's guidelines to link to it. I, too, agree that everyone does and should have a right to edit and everyone should be held to the guidelines. Those guidelines very clearly state that people are specifically allowed to note the "fields [they] have knowledge in." If you continued to have an issue with me, on my own user page, linking to my Twitter account you did not have to delete my entire user page. In fact, I'm still quite amazed that that's what you did. You should not have deleted my entire user page simply because you saw my linking to my Twitter account as some sort of self-promotion (for what, I still don't even understand). What shameful behavior this is. Do you actually want people to join and participate in editing Wikipedia or do you just want to push them away like this? Cjslaby (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I really don't see how we can unambiguously read this amount of intention into what was 1-2 lines on a userpage, but again, going back to the original edit: what was wrong with Cjslaby linking to their Twitter profile? This happens all the time, and without further communication I would also revert an editor's removal of information I had placed on my talk (typo:user) page. I don't know how we can read his undoing of that edit as evidence of malicious intent? Twitter accounts are commonly posted on user pages so unless the issue is specifically in the wording of the text that linked to the twitter profile, I don't understand what the issue is. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Alyo - Did I at any time use the word "malicious"? New users are generally discouraged from including any external links that are potentially promotional, and that's what this was. You may or may not see it as I do, but maybe you're not spending half your day getting rid of spam. Deb (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

"New users are generally discouraged from including any external links that are potentially promotional" ... can you point to any policy or guidelines on this, Deb? "maybe you're not spending half your day getting rid of spam" ... or, maybe you're seeing spam where it does not exist and should take a break? --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I wasn't intending to imply that you did, but you're evidently reading negative/anti-policy/spam intentions ("you want people to check out your Twitter account for reasons that can have nothing to do with the encyclopedia") in CJS's action--on what I would consider very ambiguous grounds. Read malicious intent as "promotional intent" then. No, I don't spend half my day getting rid of spam, but I don't see how that's relevant here if my point is that CJS was following the userpage policies. "Generally discouraged" is not the same as G11. Can I ask you to restore his userpage and we can discuss specific language you disagree with? Alyo (chat·edits) 15:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Certainly not. Have you looked at his Twitter feed? Deb (talk) 17:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

How on earth is that relevant? With all due respect, you are simply avoiding a very basic question: what policy did CJS violate that justified deleting their entire userpage without further communication? There was no obvious spamming in their edits, the language on the userpage was innocuous, the twitter page itself is not unambiguous promotion. If CJS creates a new userpage that contains the exact same information in the form of four userboxes--all of which (Twitter link, historian, PhD candidate, etc) already exist--are you going to delete that too? Alyo (chat·edits) 21:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Redo of a previously deleted article

Tirivashe Chikumbirike (talk) 12:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC) Deb it was my first time to create a wiki article and i had not done my proper research on writing guidelines.Is it possible for me to redo the subject i had previously written which was deleted

regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tirivashe Chikumbirike (talk • contribs) 12:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

James Colistro

Hey Deb,

I hope you're doing well. You recently move my article James Colistro to the Drafts. I have asked for help and didn't really get much, but someone told me it sounds promotional. I really have no idea what part is promotional, although I removed a few phrases accordingly. Unfortunately, there aren't many references available. But he is a notable person. He has worked in many significant roles. Please review my Draft again and share your opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:James_Colistro

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About COI on Draft:Consequence_Karma

Dear Madam/Sir, I have tried to put every bit and piece to be un-biased. Please do let me know if there is any problem with the article. I will remove that or change that accordingly. Also! Since you keep insisting on COI on this "Draft:Consequence_Karma", then please let me know what should I put as I have written that I DO KNOW OF THE WRITER-DIRECTOR BUT NOT PERSONALLY. Please help out. As this is my first article. I do need any help I can get. Also! I am planning to write about some more films which are on OTT platforms, as they do not get much exposure as they deserve, in the future but that will totally depend upon how my experience goes with this one. I hope for the best. Thanks ShaanFatima (talk) 13:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

ShaanFatima What did you mean when you said that you were creating the article "to help a friend"? You haven't explained this yet, and we can't move on until you explain. Who is the friend and why did you need to create the article on their behalf? Deb (talk) 13:47, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Deb I don't even remember when I said it. Honestly! I am doing it as it comes along. I have no experience whatsoever in this. And whenever or wherever I said it, I don't even have an idea of that. It ["to help a friend"] must have been put by mistake wherever it has been put. If I knew where it was, I could have removed it to done something about it. There is a simple solution to the situation according to me and that is, you please read the article, its not even long, and see if it is legit. Or at least let me know what should be changed to make it legit. Isn't it the whole purpose of the review exercise. You review and put up what is legit. This film is a low budget film. I get it. But! It is there on the internet, on some OTT platforms, and all the information about it is true as far as the sources tell. Isn't this the purpose of Wikipedia. To give legit information about things. No matter how big or small in budget they are. At least I think that is. So please let me know what should be done to make whatever you think to put a legit article about this film.

Thanks in advance for your support. I am saying again. If this goes well, I am going to put some more articles about some other Bollywood indie films on Wikipedia just to give new independent filmmakers a legit platform like wikipedia to show that they are also part of something big, no matter the budget. ShaanFatima (talk) 16:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC).

Concern regarding Draft:Marathon Group (Russian company)

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If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Speedy Deletion of page

Hi Deb,

Thanks for your feedback, I have updated the content of the Acrolinx page to include more citations and a different writing style. Where can I resubmit my article?

Elizabeth of York

Hi, Deb! I saw that you changed the list of issue of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville from "Elizabeth, Queen of England" to "Elizabeth of York". Could you please explain why you chose to do so? Base on other pages, it seems to be convention that if your child was queen consort of England, the list of issue would say their name, Queen of England. For example, if you go to Ferdinand III of Castile, one of his issue is "Eleanor, Queen of England". I do see that it could be confused with a queen regnant, but all you need to do is click on the link and see that based on their info:royalty box that they were a queen consort. Elizabeth had the title of queen consort and I think she is therefore entitled to be titled as such. Unlimitedlead (talk) 12:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

IP vandal

Thank you so much! Best block I've seen in a while Hockeycatcat (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Year articles

Hello, I just received a warning from you to not add any further entries to Year articles unless accompanied by a citation from a reliable source. I was somewhat confused because all I did was add birth and death dates which have their own references and sources in the person's article and the majority of the other entries don't have any citation directly in the year articles too, specially from older years. And those weren't deleted by you. If it was someone that died recently, I could obviously understand, but your deletions were mostly from the 19th and 20th century, 21 total. Help me understand why my entries were different than the others already there in the same condition. Mariaveigaborges (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sanjay Bhatia (administrator)

Hi Deb, first I would like to thank you for you efforts in reaching me on article.My efforts had always been to improve wikipedia articles by following wiki policies. I don't have any connection with the subject. As the platform of wikipedia is designed to highlight persons with notability, hence this article met the same. Also, the character has built the reputation in "x" years of service so had to highlight the same which I also observed in similar articles edited by me earlier. However, if the draft is restored I will revisit the article and correct the misses, if any, as per wiki policies.Thank you and cheers.Gardenkur (talk) 10:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sanjay Bhatia (administrator)

Hi Deb, I realize that the page is deleted. I want to improve it and remove all the resume and promotion style language from it comparing it with wiki guidelines, however I am unable to find the page. Could you please retrieve the text of the deleted page and help give me so an attempt for revising it. I spent a lot of time understanding and preparing the article, so want to make one more efforts and see my efforts don't go wasted, hope you understand. Thanks Gardenkur (talk) 13:47, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sanjay Bhatia (administrator)

Hi Deb, Appreciate your time and efforts on reaching me. If I can have the article draft, I can revisit and attempt to remove the general whereabouts of him which are not relevant, like where he lives, how long in service and focus more on the notable work he has done. Also will highlight his contribution overall than current one. Unfortunately I did not save the copy with me hence I need to see the article to fix it.Gardenkur (talk) 03:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sanjay Bhatia (administrator)

Hi Deb, thanks for reply and promptness in reaching out. I didn't mean adding details but will revisit and adjust it to neutral tone. I spend time understanding wiki policies not only for NPOV tutorial but also for writing and editing new and existing articles. And yes, I took the quiz but will not hesitate to take in future whenever I want to improve my learning.Gardenkur (talk) 11:01, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sanjay Bhatia (administrator)

Hi Deb, Heartily appreciate your efforts in giving me an opportunity to rework.Gardenkur (talk) 12:02, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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		Thank you for being so kind and guiding me when you could have just said forget it and blocked me. I am doing my best to learn and people like you make it a bit easier. I am excited you might be interested in helping me with the article you deleted. I want to learn to improve my editing skills. DoctorTexan (talk) 18:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Article Removed? "Mar Palafox"

Dear Deb.

I recently came to Wikipedia in order to create an "artist biography" page for artist Mar Palafox, but it appears that someone already made one and it got deleted for ambiguous advertising. Because of this, Wikipedia suggested me to talk to you about it. So I am here. What should I do?

Kindly, LukeLeto--LukeLeto (talk) 05:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

1939

If you really must persist in the habit of deleting any entry without an reference - itself a dubiously useful practice when almsot almost no other similar entries in that section (or births) has a reference - at least please did not just lazily revert the other edits made at the same time, as you did with the birth date of Lloyd Gaines. Thank you. Rcb1 (talk) 12:03, 24 May 2021 (UTC)rcb1 Rcb1, If you really must persist in the habit of creating new entries without the reference required by the guidelines, after being told previously not to do it, at least don't just lazily make other entries at the same time, as it causes additional work for others. Gaines isn't internationally notable and will be removed from the Year page in due course. Deb (talk) 12:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Deb, I am totally Agree with your decision of deleting ROSHNI Page which was a charity and Non-Governmental Organization

Hi Deb, I am totally Agree with your decision of deleting ROSHNI Page which was a charity and Non-Governmental Organization.

But Can you told me How these organizations has been listed or have created the Page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goonj_(NGO) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HelpAge_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepalaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulir_(NGO)

Roshni is also doing similar works, For which they need Online presence to get donations, They are doing a good cause. If you want I can share their works. You can go to www.roshnisanstha.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeetrockkr (talk • contribs) 15:18, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Jeetrockkr, Wikipedia does not include articles about charities simply to enable to those charities to beg for donations. All articles are subject to review and can be deleted at any time if they fail to meet the project guidelines, including notability. Some of the articles you listed are good articles, well-written with the necessary citations included. Others are not, and I will take appropriate action. Deb (talk) 15:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Prayas

Hi Deb. I appreciate your time and efforts for reviewing the article Prayas. I observe that you commented it as promotional without giving reasons as I placed sufficient citations for changes done. Kindly let me know the reason for saying it as promotional as I dont have any personal interest in subject and highlighted only facts. This is the only way i can learn hope you understand.Gardenkur (talk) 06:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Changing of User rights

Hi Deb, I realise my user rights for editing wikipedia also has been changed. Though I understand your reasons for doing so, it will not be encouraging to contribute for the wikepedia in future. I observe utmost sincereity and intense efforts in a concentrated way for editing each statement of any article to project reality of any article. Kindly share your inputs and reason in doing so.Gardenkur (talk) 10:20, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

It will not hamper you in carrying out appropriate edits. Deb (talk) 11:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

1991 Event Considerations

Hey Deb, I just saw your reply to my old talk page post and I wanted to thank you. When I originally posted the message I honestly didn't think anyone would care or notice it, much less reply to it. I am really grateful though for the message and I really do truly appreciate it. Thank you Deb for being there even when I wasn't and thank you for being the extraordinary editor that you are! Wikipedia needs more editors like you. I added some of my own thoughts next to your opinions too so when you get the time definitely check the post again. Dan the Animator 01:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Just sorry it took me so long! Deb (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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ZHC (YouTuber)

Hello Deb. Since you deleted the draft page Draft:ZHC (YouTuber), I'll ask you first before I can make it as a draft page again or possibly make it as an article. Here, that's what I would make for a potential article on Wikipedia, because how many subscribers he has on the platform as an art YouTuber, and he has over 20 million subscribers. I just started that page in my sandbox subpage with a stub template first, which I only include some information I have (i.e. statistics) before I can let other users add more information when that page is created as an article or a draft. One last thing, can I make that a draft page first, which he is also a viral YouTuber in others' opinions (even if their own opinions were from outside of Wikipedia)? --Allen ^{(talk / ctrb)} 02:36, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Allen2 I would point out that there is already a draft about this person, under the name Draft:Zachary Hsieh. Without the actual evidence for notability, all I can say for the moment is that the draft as it stands would never pass review. It's already quite likely to be deleted, because of the promotional language in sentences like "He gained enormous popularity..." If the draft you've created in your sandbox were created as an article as it stands, it would be speedily deleted as an A7 unless multiple independent references were included. Deb (talk) 09:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

hello user

@Deb:

That you can not decide alone and ruin the page of Mohammad Kazemi !!!! I'm surprised you probably did not know the dear world and Olympic taekwondo champion Karzber. Of course it was unlikely for you !!!!! In general, I suggest you to register the page permanently, because your move as one of the administrators with a history of Wikipedia was not correct. I just wanted to introduce you to Mohammad Kazemi. He is of Iranian descent and has won several Olympic and world championships. Thanks.mohammad (talk) 13:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

As "one of the administrators with a history of Wikipedia", I'm fairly confident that I know what I'm doing. If you are not happy with it, you can appeal. BTW, "Mohammad Kazemi" is a village. Deb (talk) 14:06, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deb:

Hello user with history and esteemed. I am talking about Mohammad Kazemi, a member of the Iranian national team and the Iranian Olympics. However, I will add 50 more resources to the page. Thank you, dear user, manager, if you can help me. With much appreciation.mohammad (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deb:

Hello dear user. I did not do anything wrong. This user is a novice and not an administrator. Why are you hostile to me? In fact, you are wrong. I did not do anything wrong. This user is a novice and not a manager. You should not defend him. Thanks He spoils my articles even though he is not the director at all.mohammad (talk) 08:30, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Mohammadhoshyar If you were more experienced, you would know that we don't have a director here at Wikipedia. That is not how this project works. User:GermanKity has acted correctly, and it is you who are wrong. You must stop sending other users rude messages if you don't want to be blocked. Deb (talk) 08:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Deleted article: Kevin B. Lee

Hi Deb, I saw that you deleted my article: Kevin B. Lee. I think I figured out what the problem was. 1) I linked the titles in Filmography with external links to Lee's published films as a way to highlight the topic of cross media publishing, however I can see why it seems promotional. 2) I moved the draft to the article space, because I misread the rules for publishing articles.

Please let me know how to fix this and whether I can restore the article making according changes. --Mostrandomusername (talk) 08:37, 30 May 2021 (UTC)Mostrandomusername

@Mostrandomusername:.

I ask you to refer to my sandbox document and form the article of Mohammad Kazemi. I thank you very much. I hope I can repay. This article was deleted unnecessarily by a new user who was not an administrator. Thank you very much.mohammad (talk) 08:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Mohammadhoshyar, Your article has not been deleted - you should be aware that new users who are not administrators cannot delete articles. Your article is in draft, as you were told on your Talk page several days ago. That is where you should be editing it, not in your sandbox. Deb (talk) 08:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deb:

Dear user, means users with access. I was not rude, I just sent a message to him. Please do not call me rude. I have no request from you. There are other users I ask for help and they will help me.mohammad (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@Deb:

Dear user, means users with access. I was not rude, I just sent a message to him. Please do not call me rude. I have no request from you. There are other users I ask for help and they will help me.mohammad (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

Hi Deb, I have opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sthacker21, which could be of interest to you, since you blocked a /128 last month and he is up to his old tricks. Elizium23 (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Sacred Microdistillery

Hi Deb. You deleted Sacred Microdistillery. Based on the references' access dates from the Google cache of the article, I did work in the article around 2010. I think there is a non-promotional version in the article's history that can be reverted to, so {{db-spam}} does not apply. Would you restore the article? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:55, 1 June 2021 (UTC) Cunard - You're right, there is a version you worked on. It doesn't make much of a claim to notability, but I'll put it into draft. Deb (talk) 07:58, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Would you restore the article's entire history to Draft:Sacred Microdistillery so I can see the deleted content and all the preceding and subsequent revisions? Only one revision is currently restored. Cunard (talk) 08:03, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I replied to your post on my talk page. Cunard (talk) 08:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Cunard (talk) 09:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

In response to your reply, I started a deletion review at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 June 2#Sacred Microdistillery. Cunard (talk) 10:13, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I started another deletion review at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 June 12#Sacred Microdistillery. Cunard (talk) 10:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (deleted my artical) --Manalfathima (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC) Manalfathima, You're in the wrong place for contesting a deletion, and in any case you are too late. Go to Wikipedia:Deletion review. Deb (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Reviewing newly written content

Hello Deb, My page was previously deleted because it seemed like advertising, so i've revised my content and put more references in place, now and want it to be reviewed once again. How can I do that? Ankevanspauwen (talk) 10:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)Ankevanspauwen

Aleem Zafar protection

Hello Deb, hope you’re well. My name is Danish and i’m from Aleem Zafar’s Management itself. We had few fans notifying that the artist page ‘Aleem Zafar’ is restricted and cannot be edited therefore i would like to have a conversation with you about this and help resolve it. Let me know if i can reach you out through any email or something. Team24x7 (talk) 22:04, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

No, you can't. If you work for Aleem Zafar, you should not edit any article about him. Deb (talk) 11:16, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I guess you missed the point there. I’m not here to ‘edit’ the article. I’m here to discuss the possibilities of removing the page protection since this way no one is able to edit or access the page Team24x7 (talk) 13:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

That's not correct. It is restricted; many people can edit the page and anyone at all can access it. Deb (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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• Consensus was reached to deprecate Wikipedia:Editor assistance.
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• Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration

• After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Deb, you have deleted the page i wrote about Shivantha Wijesinha stating (sic) "I have deleted your article because the only place you are allowed to write about yourself is on your own user page." I am NOT writing about myself. My name is Samson Wijesinha. Although Shivantha and I have the same surname, he is NOT a direct relation. He is a member of my extended family (a "nephew" in the Sri Lankan sense!) and I felt that he needed to have a page on Wikipedia because he has acted in so many movies and TV series that are on Wikipedia; on these pages, his name is listed without an internal reference. I have quoted credible sources in my article to substantiate what I have written about this young man, who has made a name for himself in the acting world (please check his IMDb page). I would be grateful if you check the unbiased sources and references that i have used, and reconsider your decision to delete my article. Thank you very much. Mr. Samson Wijesinha -

Requesting you to reconsider your decision to delete article about SHIVANTHA WIJESINHA

Dear Deb, you had recommended 'speedy deletion' of the page I wrote about Shivantha Wijesinha stating (sic) "I have deleted your article because the only place you are allowed to write about yourself is on your own user page." I am NOT Shivantha Wijesinha and I am NOT writing about myself. My name is Samson Wijesinha. Although Shivantha and I have the same surname, he is NOT a direct relation. He is a member of my extended family (a "nephew" in the Sri Lankan sense!) and I felt that he needed to have a page on Wikipedia because he has acted in so many movies and TV series that are listed on Wikipedia. On these several pages, his name is listed without an internal reference. Since I have a good command of English, I felt that I should contribute an article about him to Wikipedia. I have quoted credible sources in my article to substantiate what I have written about this young man, who has made a name for himself in the acting world (please check his IMDb page). I would be grateful if you check the unbiased sources and references that i have used, and reconsider your decision to delete my article. Thank you very much. Mr. Samson Wijesinha

@Samson Wijesinha: I have reviewed the deleted text. Regardless of Deb's comments about autobiographies, the article was correctly deleted. It failed to demonstrate how the subject is significant or important. I endorse Deb's decision to delete the article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi C.Fred, Thank you for writing to me to inform me that you have endorsed the decision made by Deb to delete my article. I have to accept your decision as administrator - a decision which you base on your opinion that 'the subject is neither significant nor important'. Perhaps (as an experienced administrator) you would have a word with Deb and explain to her that making the 'right' decision for the wrong reason (naively assuming that the author of an article was writing about him/herself simply because he/she had the same surname as the subject) is not appropriate. Deb would benefit from more training for her job. Kind regards, Samson Wijesinha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samson Wijesinha (talk • contribs) 08:39, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Samson Wijesinha, Perhaps you (as an inexperienced editor) could have a word with an experienced administrator like me and try to understand that the message I sent you was meant to explain, in simple and kind terms, exactly where you had gone wrong. If you had checked the deletion log to which you were directed by the notification that your article had been deleted, you would have seen the official reasons for which it was deleted, viz. "No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events): G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)" Remember that a conflict of interest is still a conflict of interest and must be declared, regardless of whether you are the topic of the article or merely a member of his "extended family". Also note that IMDb is neither a reliable source not an indication of notability. Deb (talk) 09:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Deb, You clearly stated: "I have deleted your article because the only place you are allowed to write about yourself is on your own user page." Res ipsa loquitur . No further comment is needed. Kind regards, Samson Wijesinha

Good, 'cos I have no more to say to you. Deb (talk) 10:29, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of a page

Hi Deb,

I would like to contest the deletion of the Ryan Beat page you sent me a message about.

Ryan is a professional racecar driver and by the nature of what he does, sponsor names are in the titles of events and series. He also moves between products which are part of his history in the sport. For example, tires. His page has listed a couple different tire companies, neither of which he races for so he's not looking to promote them. In fact the tire company he currently races for isn't even listed on the page.

I would like the opportunity to rectify the page and if that means removing all the sponsor mentions, I will have to do that.

Please let me know how to make this right as opposed to re-writing the entire article and pulling all the sources again.

Thank you in advance for your time and help.

JM Franklin

Draft:Peter O'Brien (writer, artist)

Thanks for moving it to draft, but here's a question, as per WP:DRAFTIFY, if a move to draftspace is objected to, I couldn't move it back into draftspace, correct? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Onel5969: My view is that, by moving direct from draft space to article space without a review - and probably in order to avoid a review - the article creator has breached the guidelines and all bets are off. If there's something in the guidelines that specifically mentions these circumstances, I couldn't find it. (But do let me know if I'm missing something.) In this case, it looks like a lot of water has passed under the bridge since the first draft was created in January. Deb (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

No, I don't think you've missed anything. I was just following up to make sure I hadn't. And while I agree that water's moved swiftly, I still think the article is purely promotional. Regardless, thanks as always. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Onel5969: There's undoubtedly a promotional intent, but it's not clearly unsalvageable at the moment. What I meant was that recreating an article that had previously been in draft would be the start of a new iteration, so the creator couldn't object on the grounds that it had been moved to draft previously. Deb (talk) 18:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the clarification. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/2601:601:1901::/39

Most of the IPs are non-stop adding unsourced genres ([6][7][8][9]). Would you be interested in blocking them? 183.171.113.60 (talk) 09:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but I'm not sure it will help. Deb (talk) 10:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Conflict of interest editing

Dear Deb, I have just received your note on my talk page. I don't think you've read my note properly. I WAS harassed and bullied over this page which I have not set up. I took it officially to Wikipedia and it was resolved in the way I have described. I am not a Wiki editor and have only edited one page because I was obliged to. There is no need to insult me. I sm an ordinary preventing themselves being defamed online. I note that you have not explained your deletion, and I am wondering why. Do you think you could please, and we can move on? Yes, having gone through a very frightening episode of being harassed via my Wikipedia page I am very clear indeed that I will not stand for it. Thank you.

From User: UncommonCandour Hello Deb, I have a note saying I have a conflict of interest with the Polly Clark page. Can you explain this? Does this refer to the external link to Cove Park which you have removed? I do not know why you have removed this -- unless it is because external links do not belong in the main text. I am the person who is the subject of the page. The page was set up without my knowledge and initially contained inaccurate information about me, amounting to a personal attack, and the person who set it up also blocked me from editing my own page. I do not know them, nor why they they targeted me. My publisher made some attempts to balance the entry, but this was an exceptionally distressing time for me, amounting to bullying and harassment. This has been resolved now by Wikipedia, after I pointed out that I am a real, living person not seeking to use to Wikipedia to promote myself, and indeed never intending to be on it, and my page cannot be used to defame or attack me. Released from this block, I updated my page myself recently. Everything on the page is factual, and meant to be useful for someone wishing to know more about me and my work. Where I have done this technically wrong, I am glad of pointers, but I do need to make clear that suggesting I have a 'conflict of interest' implies both a warning and something bad about my motives or my character and this is unacceptable. Wealthy, established public figures have staff to maintain these pages. I am obliged to do it myself (not having set it up in the first place) and I will not accept insinuations about my motives for doing so. My ​entry cannot be used to attack, harass or defame me. I am just a novelist trying to get along! I would be grateful if you would explain the Cove Park deletion as I would like to edit properly, given that I am obliged to do it. Thank you.

I have checked all block logs. I can find no record of you ever having been blocked, or of any block on you ever having been lifted. Deb (talk) 13:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Undisclosed semi-automated editing

Shiner1037 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) appears to be engaged in undisclosed semiauto editing. They only edit on the hour, with no summary, and modify rcats. While their editing is not disruptive, it is certainly strange, so I don't want to report them to ani. They have not responded to a message on their talkpage. dudhhr_Contribs 07:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I'll have a look. Deb (talk) 07:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Considering this page creation and the IP's editing pattern, this looks like block evasion to me. --Blablubbs|talk 11:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Blablubbs If it continues, I can block for disruptive editing. Deb (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Deb They're back, still auto editing. dudhhr_Contribs 07:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Ignore what I said, I misread their contrib timestamps dudhhr_Contribs 07:51, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Now they're actually back, latest edit 12 noon UTC jun 22. dudhhr_Contribs 03:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

A Kind Gesture

Hi,

I Am A Very Distinguished Contributor To Wikipedia Including The Creators Of. Alarming To Be Under Such Circumstances. I Feel You Are Mistaken And I Will Not Allow It Again!

RFPP from Atharv Bakshi socks

Hi Deb. Would you be able to protect these pages as well? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/106.213.34.58 Discretion is upto you. Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 09:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but 2019 Indian general election is having some odd edits from a 'new' account (claiming my edits are "Non constructive edits"), so may also need protecting. Cheers, Number 57 16:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, we have a new IP and pages, might need protection: 122.162.181.183 (talk · contribs). Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

New message from DFW FAA Brianvators

Hello, Deb. You have new messages at Muhi uddin kaosar's talk page.
Message added 14:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Response to promotional drafts DFW FAA Brianvators (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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Viewing Deleted Article

Greetings Deb! I go by the username of Scalavity and recently, an article that I had published was deleted due to the unambiguous advertising that it was carrying out. I have no questions on why this deletion occurred, but I would like to know where I can view that article. It took quite a long time to type out and I would really like to rework it. I haven't been able to see my original article on my account or in the drafts section. Where exactly can I view it? Thank you!

--Scalavity (talk) 06:49, 23 June 2021 (UTC)Scalavity

Scalavity - I'm sorry, there is no record of you having published any article so I can't help. Deb (talk) 07:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Emma's Diary speedy deletion

Hi Deb, I was wondering if you could give me more information on why the article about Emma's Diary was deleted?

I am a mum and have a group of mum friends and we love a few parenting resources that helped us through our pregnancy and motherhood.

Some of the apps and websites we use are listed on wikipedia (baby centre, mother and baby). But for some reason Emma's Diary is not here. Which is weird, as from what we know the website is quite notable, credible and works with NHS and RCM...

Do you have any particular recommendations I could apply to this article in order to get it published?

Do you offer pone consultations? Happy to chat through, if that's easier for you? Thanks, Gayane

delete Kelley Higney

I have made significant revisions to this page. I was creating this as a complement to the Bug Bite Thing page I'm working on. Can you please provide guidance or allow me to post my revisions? Thank you. -Pingbruise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pingbruise (talk • contribs) 18:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

deb

wiki is a good app for kids who want to be inquisitive and who like to read Baloyi khazamulae (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Very true. Deb (talk) 07:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for starting Mary Renault back in 2002. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:28, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'd certainly forgotten that! Deb (talk) 07:39, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes

Trialpears

AGK • Eliz81 • Mulad • ThaddeusB • Vianello • Who

Lacrimosus → Ikuzaf

Interface administrator changes

Ragesoss

CheckUser changes

AGK • DGG

Oversighter changes

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Guideline and policy news

• Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
• An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

• IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

• The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Sanjay Bhatia (administrator) article

Hi Dan, In May you had given guidance to me on Sanjay Bhatia (administrator) article which was rejected. I have re-worked the article and tried to incorporate guidance given by you and as per wikipedia policies. Please review it once and let me know if it is good to go. Also, please guide me how to submit this for review. While working on it I learnt that UpaLokayukta of a State in India is like Chancellor of Justice position in Finland, in that respect this person is something like this person who has an article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaakko_Jonkka

I'm not Dan. Who are you? Deb (talk) 18:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Deb:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1200 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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Protection of Zeeshan Khan

I noticed that you've fully protected Zeeshan Khan and then configured pending changes on the page. This might not have had the effect you intended as the page is effectively fully protected to non-administrators making the pending changes irrelevant. For example, I'm a reviewer and can't edit the page.@Chess: It's easy to request a change on the article Talk page. What was it you wanted to change? Deb (talk) 08:26, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@Deb: I was asking you to reduce the protection to pending changes or at the very least WP:ECP (if autoconfirmed editors are vandalizing) given that full protection doesn't seem warranted in this case. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 01:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Chess It's only redundant until the autoconfirmed block wears off. The pending changes restriction will continue indefinitely because of the history of recreation under various user names. Deb (talk) 08:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Deb: You didn't semi-protect the page though. You fully protected it so only admins could edit it. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 09:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Chess I'm sorry, I don't understand your point. If a bona fide editor seriously wants to edit it, which seems unlikely, they only have to request that change on the Talk page. Deb (talk) 10:35, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello,

I have read the wikipedia guidelines and do believe the content was not promotional. Since the latest review (17 months ago), a lot of changes have been made and new sources added. I believe the page meets criteria, the content is educational and verifiable.

Why was the page deleted before review? Is it possible to get access to the content?

Thanks

Slezakova.natalia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slezakova.natalia (talk • contribs) 14:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Promotional content can be deleted at any time. You have failed to observe the Wikipedia guidelines that oblige you to declare your conflict of interest. Deb (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Content

Could you please answer my question if it is possible to get the deleted content back? It took some time. The content was not promotional.

Slezakova.natalia

The content was promotional and therefore I will not restore it. Do not do any further editing until you have followed the rules and declared your COI. Deb (talk) 15:16, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Declared the COI in talk page. talk Slezakova.natalia (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Content2

Hi Deb, as Muboshgu explained more in Requests_for_undeletion, I do understand the reason of removal. As I said to him, in comparison with other pages, similar pages could also be considered as promotional with not good enough sources. But I respect the guidelines.

Also, if possible, I would like to ask to get the content back. Not as a draft or not to be posted on Wikipedia page, but via email maybe? I believe the info there can be used by others, took a while to collect and I do not want to loose it. Thanks a lot

Slezakova.natalia (talk) 21:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

The sources you quote seem to be directly related to how to use the product, not what makes it notable. I'm not going to restore the content. You or your colleagues have created this article several times now, so it should not have been difficult for you to keep a copy on your personal PC. Deb (talk) 14:16, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for explanation Deb

John Mariani Draft

14:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)John Mariani Draft Hi Deb. Thanks so much for reviewing my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Mariani. Are you able to give me any further guidance on how to improve the tone please? I had tried to keep it factual but you mentioned it reads like a CV. Any help much appreciated! Thanks --Factelf4 (talk) 14:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Factelf4 I would try to avoid the list format that you have used in the "Career" and "Awards" sections. You can get lots of advice from Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography and other pages to which they will lead you. Deb (talk) 14:42, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Deb! --Factelf4 (talk) 15:09, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Deb I've updated those sections but left the books section as it is as I think it's clearer like that. Is there anything else I need to do in your view, or do I now wait for a further review (from you??). Thanks again --Factelf4 (talk) 13:05, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Factelf4, It certainly looks a lot better now, but I won't be doing the review myself. Deb (talk) 13:11, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Restore Draft: Christian Speck

Hi Deb. Please consider restoring Draft:Christian Speck to my sandbox. I believe the page would need only minor changes to meet the G11 and G12 criteria and be acceptable. The page content is entirely verifiable and can be written in a less promotional/more neutral tone. If you have any questions that might help with your decision, please do not hesitate to ask. Thank you. YosDav (talk) 17:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

YosDav, I'm fairly sure it wasn't me that deleted the draft. Deb (talk) 17:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Deb, Thank you for your reply and my apologies for this late response to it. You are right, you did not delete the draft. Athaenara did. She denied my request to restore it (see correspondence at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Athaenara#Draft:Christian_Speck_and_copyvio), but referred me to a page of "Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles", which is where I found you, hoping that you would consider restoring the draft so I can continue working on it. The fixes are minor, in my opinion. Thank you.YosDav (talk) 17:15, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

YosDav, Sorry, I only restore drafts that aren't G11 or G12. Deb (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Can you direct me to individuals who would consider restoring the draft? To be honest, I feel somewhat aggrieved. I worked on the article in my sandbox for hours over many days, and had I known before I submitted it for review that it would be deleted from the sandbox by an editor and moved to the draft space, I would have saved it in another directory in my user account for safekeeping. What can I do? It really does seem unfair. Thank you.YosDav (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you. @Deb: Ear-phone (talk) 12:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

A personal note / apology

Hey Deb. Sorry for acting adversarial at RFPPU. I regret that now. It's just that I've protected +7,000 pages and I think my longest full protection (this decade) was maybe a month (rarely do I exceed 2 weeks). The point, though, is that all these full protections were directed at content disputes among legit editors. As mentioned, I've never seen WP:ECP fail to work due to disruption from non- or quasi-legit accounts, because I find that blocks and/or EC revocations usually do the trick. Anyway, that's as far as that.

Again, I apologize for my, erm, lack of poise. I'll try to do better. Please know that I hold you in utmost esteem. Kind regards, El_C 15:39, 17 July 2021 (UTC) El_C Oh, that's kind of you, but no worries. I just got a bit frustrated at the way it was dragging on. I do these things to try and minimize effort... :-) Deb (talk) 08:48, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Assistance on page for Dr Vincent

Hi there Deb, you have deleted the page I created for Dr Vincent which was awaiting review. I have already confirmed there is no conflict of interest. I have sought assistance and guidance from experienced reviewers in the live chat on the content and formatting and implemented these changesThe Brandgelist (talk) 07:38, 21 July 2021 (UTC). I don't understand why the page was deleted? Your assistance would be much appreciated. Cheers ````

Dr Vincent

Hi there Deb, thanks for your response. I understand your position however I am not sure why my response to the COI question is not visible. I have already explained there is no issue here and included this in response to reviewer questions. I have spent a lot of time on this article and also on the Wikipedia live help forum getting help and feedback from experienced reviewers and all the changes they suggested I have implemented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC_help_disclaimer In fact other reviewers have made changes and it was an experienced reviewer from the live help forum that submitted the article for review again - the article you have removed. If you feel I should change my user name then I will do so. At the very least, can you please reinstate the articles to draft so I can keep working on them. Thanks for your help. Cheers, The Brandgelist (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Dr Vincent

Hi there Deb, thanks for your speedy response. I appreciate this. Yes, I do know Dr Vincent however as previously explained to the questions raised during the initial review there is no COI. I would be most grateful if you could please reinstate the articles. I will also change my user name. Thanks for your help. Cheers, The Brandgelist (talk) 08:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:40:38, 22 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Ttttt321

• Ttttt321 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Chewdara (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I wanna help in creating my article because its review has been rejected, and i didn't understood that rejection very well like where are mistakes in my draft article,etc.so i came to here......

Ttttt321 (talk). 16:40, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Revision Advice

Hello,

You recently deleted my article entitled Robert "Bob" Martino on the grounds of "unambiguous advertising or promotion." I am going to work on revising the article. Do you have any advice on ways I can avoid the article being rejected again? I had sources for the information included. I could not tell which areas of the article were self-promoting. ChattWiki423 (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons at Women in Red

Women in Red | August 2021, Volume 7, Issue 8, Numbers 184, 188, 204, 205, 206, 207 Online events: New: Indigenous women | Women's leadership & empowerment Contest (Jul/Aug/Sep): Latin America contest Continuing: Olympic & Paralympic Games | Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: Interwiki Women Collaboration Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Somerset & Dorset Notes & Queries

I am a member of the committee of a small peer-reviewed academic journal called Somerset and Dorset Notes and Queries. I had noticed that other academic journals have pages on wikipedia so thought it would be ok if we had one too. Can you tell me what I did wrong to cause the page I created to be taken down? I deliberately modelled the page I created on the wikipedia pages of other academic journals and so assumed that what I had done was ok. Thank you for your time. Ramsgard (talk) 20:12, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Administrator changes

BusterD

Kees08 • Nickshanks • Protonk • Schissel • Ultraexactzz • Wknight94

CheckUser changes

TheresNoTime

Oversighter changes

TheresNoTime

ST47

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

• Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

• Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.

Miscellaneous

• You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Cleanup after deletion

Hi Deb, I note that you speedily deleted the article Nicholas de Wolff last year as spam, but omitted to remove backlinks to the page. This is best practice, as outlined at WP:PROD#Deletion. I have just done so for that article. If you normally do this but overlooked it on that occasion, please forgive me for bothering you. Otherwise, I hope this is a useful reminder. Kind regards – Fayenatic London 21:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

ICRANet/IRAP PhD program

Just a comment to say that I suspect that your intuition about IRAP PhD Program (back in 2016) is quite likely to be right, but there are the usual risks in falsely accusing people of COI. I did a few minor edits at the main ICRANet page and at the PhD program talk page. Boud (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page Deletion

Please clarify how the Wikipedia regarding Garuda Linux is advertising their product? All the information isn't promoting their Operating System in anyway, sound superior to other products, or anything else. If you provide me with valid reasoning why this falls under the promoting/advertising criteria, I will edit the Wikipedia page. Advertising/Promoting is not my intention, distribution of knowledge regarding Garuda Linux is my intention.I'm not even using the product, Garuda Linux, my computer is running Arch Linux. I don't intend to use Garuda Linux unless the system requirements are decreased by a fairly large amount.

About now deleted article Sandesh Ghimire Re-create if only to WP:GP4? Punitive not preventive?

Hi Deb,

I was writing up a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandesh Ghimire submission when you deleted the article.

Given Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Engineer sandesh Ghimire and its corollaries, perhaps this page could be restored, if only to ensure that any later re-creations could be WP:G4-d?

While that may be useful in addressing that specific issue, to my mind, that may well be analogous to the non-punative block policy.

Your thoughts about this? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) It looks like they would qualify for G5. Since an SPI is a given with any future recreations, imo even multiple such G5s would be cheaper than one AFD right now. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Children's BBC Presentation

Thank you for your message on my talkpage about you declining to move the above article onto the main Wikipedia site. The article does need more independent references and I know where there will be those additional references. It also allows me to make various changes, hopefully seen as improvements, to the article. When the additional independent references have been added I'll resubmit the article. Rillington (talk) 15:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

• I've now added six independent references. Is this sufficient to ensure a successful resubmission of this article? Rillington (talk) 15:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
• Thank you for the improvements to the references that I added to the article. I have now resubmitted it and hopefully this time it will be accepted.
• I've also removed the section about CBBC puppets and transferred that content into a new article. Rillington (talk) 13:33, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Henry Schein One Deleted Article (April 2021)

Hi, Deb, back in April I had a couple articles marked for speedy deletion for bias language and reading like an advertisement. My team has drastically rewritten the content and gathered new sources. I'm wondering how do I go about submitting it for review again? Should I follow the process for Articles of Creation like it's a brand new entry, or is there a different process for articles that have already been submitted and deleted? (Full disclosure, we are getting paid to write it, and I'll 100% make sure to disclose in the article.)

Thank you for your help! KnockedMallard42 (talk) 17:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:My Restful Mind Inc.

Sorry, this is my first article I am a 17-year intern at the company, and being from a country where there are no mental health services listed on Wikipedia I wanted to create one, please revert this as I have now disclosed that I am connected and please guide further for any improvement being here at Wikipedia.

Norman Sicily Project

Dear Deb,

Since you kindly offered advice on my draft a few days ago, I am writing to ask if you can assist with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Norman_Sicily_Project again.

I have responded to every comment each of the now 4 reviewers have left. The one that has been offered most often has to do with notability. Since the first rejection, I added an additional (fully independent) source. There are now 4 sources listed. Three are fully independent and focus on the project (not just a passing mention) and published in American, Argentine and Italian publications. The fourth is a an article in an international digital humanities journal authored by myself and another member of the team. It has been ostentatiously peer reviewed by international scholars who have revealed their identities and demonstrates that the editors of the journal deemed it notable enough to disseminate it in a wide audience.

Most recently, I have noted on the Talk Page that I used Wikipedia's article on The Perseus Project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseus_Project), a fellow academic effort, as a guide. The language and content have been guided by that essay, although this one has a few more sources included.

This process has been something of a moving target, depending on the viewpoint of the reviewer. But none has responded directly to my responses to their feedback. If there is something lacking, I am all ears. But no one has told me why these four sources do not meet the guideline, "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject . . . ."

I am wondering if there may be an issue with volunteers' inability to read in languages other than English.

Any advice you can offer will be welcome. I am happy to do whatever is necessary, but the moving target and lack of response to my replies is frustrating.

Very grateful for your time,

Dawnmariehayes (talk)

Dawnmariehayes, I've looked at the comments by the reviewers and it does seem to me that you've been given quite a lot of guidance and that you've tried to take note but are hampered by your lack of experience of Wikipedia and its guidelines. It's not a good idea to direct others to articles you consider to be similar to your own in the belief that it helps your case. The article on Perseus Project was created many years ago and probably would receive similar treatment to yours if it were submitted as a draft now, because the guidelines have been tightened since then. I will see what I can do to help. Deb (talk) 13:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Deb, for your response and as well as for your willingness to help. Again, happy to do whatever is needed. I'll stay tuned until I hear back from you. Gratefully again, Dawn Dawnmariehayes (talk) 14:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Prince of Wales doesn't reign over Wales

Why are you doing this? Heck if anything, I'd of expected such reaction from the Year in Scotland articles or Year in Northern Ireland articles. But Wales??? GoodDay (talk) 16:18, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Heck it was Wales that helped tip the scale towards Brexit. Much to the delight of England & annoyance of Northern Ireland & particular annoyance of Scotland. GoodDay (talk) 16:32, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It was actually the English immigrants in Wales. See [10]. Deb (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Still in Wales. Though didn't a side in the Brexit referendum. For democracies sake, I'm glad it was implemented. Oh & that Anna Soubry lost her seat in 2019. GoodDay (talk) 16:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

This is not an argument for the monarch of the UK to be listed as an "incumbent" in Year in Wales. Deb (talk) 16:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

What say you on my RFC idea, concerning these Year in constituent country articles? GoodDay (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Meanwhile, I've reverted back to 1959 in Wales. Will likely continue reverting, tomorrow. Depending on which direction the RFC is going. GoodDay (talk) 01:33, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

PS: As an objector to the changes I made two days ago. Per WP:BRD, aren't you the one who's suppose to be reverting? Anyways, I've stopped at 1935 in Wales. You can revert the rest (if you want). I'm gonna wait until the conclusion of the RFC, in case it chooses option A or B, with 'no' on C. GoodDay (talk) 06:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Update: Why not wait until RFC is over, before you 'complete' reversions. If option 'A' were chosen 'or' option 'C' rejected? Then all those reversions would have to be undone. GoodDay (talk) 15:54, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

But it was you who said I should go on reverting, and in any case, whatever the outcome, there will be no revert, just an edit. Deb (talk) 16:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok, it's your choice and potentially a waste of time. GoodDay (talk) 16:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Not for me, as long as you don't remove the references I've spent time finding and adding. I make regular passes at these articles. Deb (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

rollback of good faith edits to Northern Crossing (Tararua Range) without edit summary

hi @Deb:, I see you rolled back my good-faith edits to Northern Crossing (Tararua Range). Can you please give an Edit summary to indicate why you think the roll-back was appropriate? Cheers! Somej (talk) 09:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Somej - Sorry about that, can't think why I didn't. Your edit was unreferenced and doesn't comply with the basic guidelines on style and tone. See Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_manual,_guidebook,_textbook,_or_scientific_journal and Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles#Information_style_and_tone for further guidance. Offering readers your advice on how to climb a mountain is inappropriate at the best of times, but when it's not backed up by citations from reliable sources, it's just not acceptable. I recognise that it was intended to be helpful. Deb (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that explanation Deb. What you reverted was a move of a section of text that was in the article when you first published it out of draft space. I do agree that a list of climbing instructions is a bit detailed for Wikipedia. Are you now suggesting that it just be deleted instead? Somej (talk) 10:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Somej No, I think it's a notable topic, but the article needs some work - re-wording, etc. I'm not sure I should have approved the draft without that being done first. Deb (talk) 10:18, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Clarification on April 1978

Just for clarification: I understand that you're deleting some unreferenced entries I included in April 1978 and putting "citation needed" tags on others. Are you deleting some entries entirely because they're not of sufficient international importance, in addition to being unreferenced? I want to have a better idea of what entries I should continue adding to the article. Thanks! Gildir (talk) 09:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC) Gildir - Unreferenced entries shouldn't be added and I've removed some that you recently added. I would only delete referenced entries if they were completely trivial and lacking context, misplaced, wrong, or unverifiable from the quoted reference.Deb (talk) 09:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Middle East Venture Partners (Deletion of draft)

Dear Deb,

Thank you for getting back to me. I was trying my best not to sound "promotional" or advertising. I included multiple links for each claim inserted in the draft to ensure not to use my own opinion or pov and be the most objective possible. Please let me know how I can edit the draft to make it publishable.

Best Regards, Michel Kallas

Wikipro2397 (talk) 19:09, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi again Deb, what do you mean remove external links? Could you tell me what else do I need to work on?

Also could you undelete the draft so that I can edit on it again? This is the only saved version I have.

Thank you for your response, Michel Kallas

Please have a look on User:Anaypro

Anaypro recently edited my talk page. She does seem to have similar interests as of SidraRanaAdv, whom you blocked earlier with an expiration set on 8 February 2022. Regards ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 06:31, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip-off. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SidraRanaAdv. Deb (talk) 08:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)