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FAC furphy

Hi Crisco, since it looks like you're active now, could you do me a favour and delete this, a dup of the real one? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:34, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)  Done Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Tks mate! While you're at it, could you kill these two as well? Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/London/archive6 and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United Airlines Flight 175/archive1 -- premature noms from someone who doesn't know the process yet... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:06, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Those are now done as well! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:13, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Ed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Kahaani

Ohconfucius (talk · contribs) is doing copyedit in the article. That has helped a lot. Thanks for your comments.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

• There was a comment by you in the peer review regarding "what evidence have they provided for the slaying of the demon thing". I have now changed the sentence structures in that area of the article (that paragraph, also, has been rearranged to a lower part of the section). Would you mind taking a look at the prose? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

• That looks fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI

Related to our discussion from WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech:

United States v. The Progressive is now a candidate at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests, you can discuss it there under its entry for 2 May 2013. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 03:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

• Saw that, looks good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Soy sauce and ketchup

Thank you for finding that beautiful painting, my DYK would be quite rubbish without it. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 00:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:42, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your comments at PR and support at FLC for Satyajit Ray filmography. The list has been promoted. I appreciate your help. - Vivvt (Talk) 13:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to have helped. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ikan Doejoeng

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination question

Crisco 1492,

Can I ask you a favor? Did I nominate this DYK correctly? I'm new to the DYK. Crtew (talk) 09:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Sagar Sarowar and Meherun Runi

Thank you, Crtew (talk)

• Looks like you got it right. You didn't need a reference at the nomination though, just in the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for checking this. Crtew (talk) 12:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

• You're welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:52, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Possible FP

I seem to recall asking you to dig up a portrait of George Clinton (vice president) a while back and was going through some of our FPs here today - out of curiosity, do you think it has any chance at passing FPC? – Connormah (talk) 03:38, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• I doubt it, as there seems to be some pixelation, but a nomination never hurt anything. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK hooks

Given that fonly 360 people looked at my hook for Department of Post-War Reconstruction (Australia) in 2009 - which I suspect is some kind of record - I'm certainly pleased to defer to your judgement when you say that a hook is dull ;) (though my most recent DYK attracted over 10,000 views, so I do fluke it from time to time!). Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:54, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• I think I've gotten lower (some numbers [ Wirjono Prodjodikoro had only 100 hits ]), but yeah... we should try and use something to draw readers... maybe they'll even become editors. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:11, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

1965

My recent edits have followed on from reading a review in an Australian newspaper of the movie 'Act of Killing' - if you havent seen the article - it would be appreciated if an eagle eye was applied - it looks like a non local has written it up - classic telltale - sumatera spelling...

my use of 1965 in Indonesia today has been apllied to thing long after that refer to it... do you think that is avalid usage? your opinion, as always, appreciated. sats 04:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• Siska's been telling me to watch the movie... haven't found time yet. I've removed the summary as a probable copyvio of this, which becomes even more evident if we look at when the synopsis was included here. I'm not too sure about your second question, but I think for films we should do as at Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI: include the film's version of events as part of a summary, but if other sources contrast the film's events to actual ones we should contrast them as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:26, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
  • If you mean the category, I don't think so as 1965 in Indonesia is for events from that year, not set in that year. Otherwise Kubah, Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI, Ronggeng Dukuh Paruk, and another dozen or so works would have to be there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

ahah - thanks for clarifying that - now that you phrase it that way I might need to modify some of my edits - appreciate your thoughts on that.sats 05:54, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

smells nafas copyvio Postage stamps and postal history of Indonesia - watcha think? sats 13:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• If so, from an Indonesian source. Not getting any hints in English sources. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

ta - some of the transl looks a bit um, er... sats 14:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

• Agree. Worse than a machine translation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Featured article candidates

Hi Crisco,

Thank you for notifying me of your proposed deletion of the template I just created; I have responded at the discussion location. I notice that you seem to consistently receive plenty of feedback on your frequent featured article candidates almost immediately upon nomination. Do you know why you receive so much feedback so quickly every time you nominate an article for featured status? I have been nominating articles for featured status as frequently as possible for several months now, and each nomination has dragged on for more than a month and all of the nominations have failed due to lack of discussion. I post notices on the relevant WikiProject talk pages, but still nothing. I would be grateful for any advice you are willing to provide.

Neelix (talk) 00:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

• Networking, I guess. If you were to neutrally approach editors you know who are active at FAC and ask that they review an article, it's still permitted. Also, you could help review other people's noms. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Crisco,

I hadn't realized that approaching other editors that way was considered appropriate. I'll probably start reviewing more nominations as well. Are those the two main things you meant by networking? Thanks for the advice.

Neelix (talk) 01:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, basically. As long as the notification is neutral and transparent, it's not canvassing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Cebongan Prison raid

Gave it a start. It's not Shakespeare, but it's there! -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:19, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Way to go... shame my life's gone to... well, meh. That's not Shakespeare either. Good job. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• "Meh" was probably in one of his early drafts. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Somehow that wouldn't surprise me. Do you want me to nominate it for DYK? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Sure, thanks. Feel free to add yourself as co-author since I based this mostly on your research. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• I wouldn't feel worthy if I didn't work on it at least a little. I'll try and get some more in there either tonight (if I've worked a bit on my mid) or tomorrow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Up to you--you deserve it either way, though. =) -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:09, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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• Thanks, replied. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cebongan Prison raid

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File:Aung San Suu Kyi Tribute Portrait by Artist Conrad Engelhardt Using 4,000 Wine Corks.jpg

File:Aung San Suu Kyi Tribute Portrait by Artist Conrad Engelhardt Using 4,000 Wine Corks.jpg just got added to Aung San Suu Kyi, but I don't think its image rationale is correct; the uploader does not seem to be the creator of the work itself. Would you mind taking a look when you get a chance? -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Nominated for deletion as a) it's previously published, on a fully copyrighted page or in a way assumed to have full copyright and b) there's no evidence the uploader is the copyright owner — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:41, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Karlheinz Oswald

Crisco, I'm hoping this catches you before you're off for the night.

This is the lead hook in Prep 3, and features an image of a sculpture by a living German sculptor. I'm not quite sure how this is possible, even if European laws would allow it—the other two pictures are outdoors, and it's possible this might also be public art of some kind, but it's such a tight shot I'm wondering whether such a reason could be used—because it's there's no justification for any of the three images from Commons including this one, just an "own work" listing. Since you're an expert on Commons and that sort of thing, I'm hoping you can deal with it properly.

It's an odd prep set: there are two Great Eastern Hotel hooks (for English and Indian hotels of the same name), and the Rihanna album hook frankly makes no sense: how can a just-released "reloaded" album have a 930% increase in sales? (The reload couldn't, since it's brand new; the original album might have, or the rules may combine the sales of the two. I'm not clear on this, and neither is the hook.) Unfortunately, I have to leave the house shortly for several hours, so I don't have time to sort all this out. I'm hoping I can leave this in your hands, because I won't be able to get back to it for quite a while. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• K, just opened Wikipedia. Luisenpark seems to be mostly (if not wholely) outdoors, and Germany offers FoP for both statues and buildings so the image would have been fine. I'll try to check out the Rihanna album. I think the Great Eastern Hotels are for the "WTF" factor. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Reworded after consulting the source; it seems to be in a region that combined sales, however. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for handling the Rihanna hook. As for the Oswald sculpture, it seems odd to me that a work of art can be considered public domain when it's out in public, even if there's no attempt to show it in that context (it looks like it's in a museum even though it's not), but the law doesn't necessarily have to make sense, it just has to be the law, and your explanation of why it shouldn't be an issue here in the US where the law is different was very helpful. I'll try to remember that for future hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

• It's not "public domain" per se, but not a violation of copyright to reproduce the statues in 2D. I believe the logic behind it is that statues' worth and receipt of copyright is based on them being 3D; 2D representations may be thought to not impair the copyright holder's ability to enjoy the proceedings of his or her art. Generally this is limited to permanently (no clear definition, generally years) situated works. The US only allows freedom of panorama for buildings; 2- and 3D works of art in the US are fully protected under US copyright. Some countries, such as France, don't allow any FOP. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:11, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

It's on the Main page for more than an hour with the unknown and unpictured Heinrich Vetter - please remove the name from the listing, end on "and Hildegard of Bingen", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

•  Done — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Did you know that the model for his sculpture Christus in the Mainz Cathedral is a ballet dancer with African roots? (and you see it) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

• Oh, cool. You're welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Ezra Meeker

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Odd DYK review...

Hi Crisco, I wonder if you would have a quick look at this DYK nomination please? I was raking through the list of nominations to find something to review and it caught my eye as I think it needs three QPQs. I'm asking for you to have a peek as you are an Admin. I may have a vivid imagination (and I know I must be very careful not to wrongly make suggestions) but is it odd that it appears the only contributions of Yas777 are the review and this [1] article, which has predominantly been edited by the DYK nominator? SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:30, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

• You're right on both counts. Noted. Don't be afraid to post your concerns on the nomination page; they were dead on. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Untied.com

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

One more request

If you find time and interest, the article on the film Sholay is in peer review. It is the quintessential Bollywood film!--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:42, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

• No guarantees, although I've noticed the discussion already. BTW, is Sholay related to the Arabic word for "devout"? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

• Unlikely. I am not sure about the root of the word Sholay. It is not used in Bengali language (which is my mother tongue), so not so strong on such words. If anything, it is likely to be related to some Persian word, as loads of Persi words are in north Indian languages.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:51, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

• Possible, as Malay (one of the main influences on modern Indonesian) was also influenced by Farsi; Hikayat Amir Hamzah, for instance, was brought from Persia. In Indonesian soleh or sholeh means a devout Muslim. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:56, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

• Languages are fascinating! Especially when you find links between one and the other. Indeed, bahasa is from bhasha, meaning language in Sanskrit it's daughter languages!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

• Definitely! I'll try to review Sholay later, but for now you may want to trim the cast list and ensure "classic" is well supported. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Cebongan Prison raid

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the work you do for DYK, and for the notifications! Best, NinaGreen (talk) 00:07, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to be of service — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Choiseul Pigeon

Hi Crisco, could you please have a look at the license for the pic in the Choiseul Pigeon DYK nomination? It's an attractive image but I don't know enough about licenses to know if that is okay or not? Sorry to keep bothering you with stuff - but they do always say if you want something done, ask a busy person! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:27, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

• Replied there. Better to take the safe route, especially since there is no indication that the changes were done by the uploader. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:45, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Crisco. Nominator has now swapped the image as per your suggestion, so it looks fine now. I'm afraid I'm useless at image licenses! SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Nah, just not as experienced as you could be. If you need to you can bookmark most of the related pages (the Hirtle chart and Non-US copyrights come to mind) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, at a quick glance, they look helpful. A quick heads up, there seem to be problems with the DYKQ - I think Casliber might be working on the duplicated hooks but a problem with another hook (the mammoth 16 article one) has just been flagged on the DYK discussion page. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Heading over there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Press conferences and copyright

Hey Crisco, are recordings of public press conferences copyrighted? In this case, the recordings appear to have been later collected and released on an album: [2] and [3], for example. This came up in the review for the Bowie album Never Let Me Down; just curious whether these links are permissible or whether the album's info should simply be cited without a link. Thanks! -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

• I hate audio files . Copyright depends on who recorded it, who was reading, any background music (doubtful for a press conference), and the content of the speech. The recorder has a copyright for that specific recording, the reader has copyright over how the work was presented, and the writer has copyright over the specific contents. In this case (without opening the file, poor connection) I think it would be safest to avoid giving links as the uploader may own a copyright on a recording, but the text and presentation are likely not his or hers. Any decently sized, human-created text is enough to attract copyright, no matter the degree of originality. A press conference is an essay is a short story. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• K, thanks. I'll recommend that it not be linked. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Happy to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:22, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Nico Pelamonia

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/William Orr (Australian politician)

halo, crisco! Can you help with this? Is it feasible? O.o Thanks, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 12:28, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Saw that. Don't think it's feasible yet... not with the sources I've seen. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Another for DYK

I've just completed (or at least good enough to be moved from userspace) a revised version of Eisenhower dollar. Want to do the usual on a DYK nom? It looks like 5x from here.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Cripes that's huge. It's still a short of 5x though... about 3.3k characters short. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I used the actual prose size in the page size scripts I have.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:46, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• Actual prose size? I was comparing the DYKcheck results for both pages, which is coming up short. The script doesn't count quotes either. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• While the collecting section needs padding, I don't think I can add 3.3k. Still, I'll look around and see what I can do in the next three four days.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:41, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• I've expanded it. It seems to qualify now.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Nominated. Yeoman (2011) goes nowhere, and Hicks (1974) has no links to it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I have to update that to the 2013 or 2014 edition (soon to be out). Hicks I'll add something.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Alright. Glad to be of service. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• I appreciate the help, as I sometimes miss stuff.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah... tell me about it. One of my lists reached FL last week and I just found a citation error in it. *sigh* — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Group of Monuments at Mahabalipuram

Looks like it go promoted, and then PumpkinSky banished it from the lead slot because the image was impossible to see to the final slot in the last prep. You can see the discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 3 photo.

I think this hook is long enough that the prep set ought to be only five hooks, not six, but can't judge whether a crop of the photo (the elephants on the right side of the main bas-relief could make a nice, 340x240 image that might look decent at 100x100 (about 100x70 visible), though the crop would have to be made and loaded. Can I leave this in your hands? The hook would be a good fit timewise in the new prep 3 after the current one is promoted to a queue. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• 
  Two elephants
• 
  One elephant

• How's this? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, Crisco. I think I was wrong, though. The two elephants one doesn't look as good as I'd hoped—the rock and carved sections don't make that strong a contrast—and the single elephant, while okay as an elephant despite the mediocre contrast, doesn't give a sense of the monument at all, which I think would be the reason you'd want an image in the first place. I appreciate your doing the crops; I'd actually been thinking of an image that included more of the relief face, and I see that won't work at all at that size. Since PumpkinSky has moved the hook to the second slot of Prep 2, I'm reasonably content—the slot runs during local morning and midday, which is perhaps even better than Prep 3 in terms of timing—so let's leave it where it is. (It's an odd prep set, I must say: none of the hooks is in the least bit quirky, and the final three involve a public hanging, a recently deceased cinematographer, and a sinkhole that killed 15 people. Unfortunately, I won't have time to deal with it today.) BlueMoonset (talk) 14:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah, it's hard to get some good contrast in those images. Sorry. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Ultimately, it's not a problem. While I think it's nice to place such huge multi-article hooks first, if there isn't a good image, there shouldn't be a guarantee. I'm getting to feel that such large hooks—upwards of ten articles—are a bit of an imposition: they take a month or more to review, and suck up a lot of energy into a single hook that could instead power a dozen. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

• Why not bring it up at WT:DYK? I think there'd be some support for the idea... the US dinosaur one was the straw that broke the horse's back for most people. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lilik Sudjio

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Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Gambier-Parry

Crisco, could you please give Anne advice about the image she's using in this DYK nomination (and the article); she needs to know about correct licensing for it on Wikimedia Commons. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

• Appreciate it. Thanks again! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Berminatkah Anda untuk Ini ???

Hai Crisco, beberapa waktu saya tawari untuk mengembangkan suatu artikel di WBI tidak mau karena lebih berminat mengembangkan artikel disini. Kalo gitu, bagaimana jika kembangkan saja artikel ini dengan menerjemahkannya dari artikelnya di WBI yang saya terjemahkan dari ms.wiki: Geng: The Adventure Begins

Artikel tersebut telah menjadi Artikel Pilihan di ms.wiki dan sedang dalam proses pengusulan menjadi AP di WBI. Mungkin Anda berminat mengembangkannya disini tapi kalo tidak mau ya tidak apa-apa --Erik Fastman (talk) 05:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Sayangnya saya sekarang semakin berkurang waktunya. Buat nulis artikel sekarang harus nyuri2 waktu. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Tirto Adhi Soerjo

I added your DYK nomination of Tirto Adhi Soerjo to Prep 2 without realising it had been requested for a specific date. I apologise! If you are bothered about it appearing on a different date, you are much more capable of righting the matter than I am. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, I've reverted. Thanks for the heads up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:53, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	On behalf of WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech, thank you for your quality improvement contributions to Wikipedia in the area of Freedom of speech, most recently with the article Erwin Arnada. — Cirt (talk) 13:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Like -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks guys! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Pekanbaru

Hey there - I've been reverting an anon editor for a little while at this article. One who likes to post listings of hotels and malls and other non-encyclopedic, um, stuff. (no list of toll roads yet though) I've tried to communicate why, but it's useless. What to do? Is it possible to get a semi-protect on the page? cheers --Merbabu (talk) 10:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

• Semi protected for a week. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, many thanks. Let's see what happens. cheers. --Merbabu (talk) 23:44, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: shirt buddies

Hello. You have a new message at Accedie's talk page. Accedie^{talk to me} 23:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Barcus-Berry Electronics

I've replied on my talk Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, I've got it watchlisted. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Mohammad Hatta

Anda punya saran referensi 'gak buat Mohammad Hatta, terutama buku? Atawa, klo kakak punya banyak waktu luang di Wikipedia -maksudx itu gak ada Peer Review, diskusi pengajuan artikel pilihan, dll- bolehlah itu dikembangkan Mohammad Hatta.

Ngomong2, kakak tau "tada'" (tidak), kacang parang (Bahasa Melayu dialek Pontianak) (Canavalia ensiformis), dan lagi, di Kanada itu ada 'gak kacang parang? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

• Kayaknya saya pernah dengar, tapi tidak tahu kepastiannya. Kalau Hatta, sumber saya masih kurang sekali :-( — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Btw, foto yg di bawah itu foto sapa, 'ya? Lalu, Yusa Biran sama Salim Said ada 'gak bicarekan peran Mohammad Hatta dgn film Indonesia? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 04:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Saya belum lihat dalam sumber saya di sini. Yang di bawah itu salah satu teman on-wiki. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

the delights of dumping

menurut pak crisco? [4] bisa? atau tak bisa?

someone should have an online blog called the delight of lists maybe the joy of lists - and no guessing where they could get enough for a lifetime ....  :( sats 05:59, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

• That's a viable list as it's own page. Without the images though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

• • viability indeed I can see your point - but so many get dumped incomplete... and are never touched again... sats 06:05, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
    • Moved to List of Interior Ministers of Indonesia (might have to be List of interior ministers of Indonesia, but that's a different consideration). We could try and get a bit of a lede built up, like at List of ministers of law and human rights of Indonesia. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

tying the shoelace in sequence with 600 million other shoe owners - I may have misread the intention of the ip but the dumping issue rears its flagellent properties again at Indonesian flag - do we need each regulation in triplicate? your opinion once again, and no I will not upload my photo of me in my i edit wikipedia t shirt under any circumstances. sats 05:10, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

it has the delightful quality of the person trained in training and assessment who starts the lesson with, I am about to tell you this a,b, and c - a,b,c - I have just told you a,b, and c, and summarising this we have just learnt about a,b,and c - completely fogetting to actually say what a, b, and c are. Ontological defence of saying nothing - nothing in the inherently endless indonesian capacity to say nothing in the end... But then lets be fare the late Peter Sellers had a classic bight at the same task.... sats 05:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Getting my axe nice and sharp here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks for that, it is a relief to see the axe is working, gracias sats 05:23, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Da nada. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Eisenhower dollar

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Look!

Look, I finished the fence and I'm drinking a beer. And I'm wearing the shirt! Thought I'd drop this here quick before I get blocked again for incivility, haha. Also, I'm trying to keep my gender secret. You think they can tell I'm a sworn virgin? Drmies (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Fantastic. A sworn virgin, eh? Mrs Drmies must be such a saint then... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Glen Springs

Would you be so kind as to explain your comment, "the claim does not seem to pass muster"? Mgrē@sŏn 01:59, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Did you see the discussion at WT:DYK yet as suggested? There are concerns that a) it is highly improbable and b) may be being exploited by the source for promotion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks twice! from Babel41

Hi Crisco, thanks for encouraging me (as the Radical centrism page's primary editor) to reduce the list of See Also's there. You are right, it was time ... have now done so.

And thanks for informing me that the Mark Satin-counseling-draft-dodgers picture will be on the main page May 14. What great news. The photographer took it as a young woman just after arriving in Toronto from the U.S. - she'll be thrilled, I'll let her know ASAP. I think the caption as it stands is fine (nor too short, not too long, not POV), and I've been monitoring the Satin page pretty regularly, so I think we'll be fine there also. - Babel41 (talk) 05:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• That's great to hear! Hope she likes seeing her work on the front page of Wikipedia... it certainly is a thrill to reach hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people on the same day. Glad to help with Radical centrism as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)

Hi, I thought I would drop you a note to say that I mentioned in this month's issue of Ichthus. If you wish to receive the full content in future, please drop me a note on my talk page.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. Got me wondering if the project caught Albertus Soegijapranata when it passed last year. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:23, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

	The Special Barnstar
	Hi Crisco, please accept this for your exceptional work on restoring the Terry-Thomas image. Thank you for your careful eye which will now benefit the article hugely. CassiantoTalk 21:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to have helped with something other than reviewing this time! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Jack Hobbs

If you can stand yet another cricket article (and a very, very long one, but he is a very, very famous cricketer who is probably in the all-time-top-five), Jack Hobbs is at PR here. If not, no worries! Sarastro1 (talk) 21:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

• I've heard of this one, actually! I'll try to get there after I finish reviewing Meeker for Wehwalt. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:21, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ami Priyono

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Tanya

Sebenarnya, bung SatuSuro ini maunya berbahasa Indonesia/Inggris, sih? Kok campuran? Emang dia bisa bahasa Arab dan Melayu Indonesia?

Lalu, ane mau tau apa foto diri ente. Apakah seorang gemuk seperti foto di atas, atawa yg lain? Hanya Allah Yang Maha Tahu.

Salam.

--Akbar ini dari Kalbar 13:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Wekeke, kalau foto saya tinggal cari di Commons: Crisco 1492. Ada dua foto di sana. Kalau Sats, ia bisa bahasa Indonesia; dulu pernah tinggal di Jogja. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

"Cam bapak die" (Ingat, "e" dalam Melyu Pontianak, ada dua macam, huruf "e" seperti pada kata ember dan huruf "e" seperti pada kata emas. Nah, pada kata die, itu kita memakai huruf "e" pada kata emas. Jgn dikacaukan dgn yg die dlm bahasa Inggris). Nah, sy pernah buat artikel burung kontes di Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia. Nah, versi bhs Inggris-nya itu ka2k tau 'tak? Atw, bisa tdk tanyakan kepada "Sesepuh Maharaja" Jim F. "Tanah Seberang". Tlg, 'ya, kak. Sy minta bantuannya. --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 13:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Pemberitahuan: "cam bapak die" itu bisa bermakna terlalu, sangat, dll. Sebaliknya, "bengak" itu bisa juga bermakna mengejek yg artinya itu adalah "bodoh". --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 13:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Sepertinya belum ada di sini. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Ada pertanyaan perihal Bahasa Melayu Pontianak dan Sambas? Kirimkan saja ke: POBOX 123, Sayang Semuanya (Wekkssss!!!) Tanyakan saja kpd sy.

Salam.

--Akbar ini dari Kalbar 14:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Belum ada sih. Lagi "mabuk" teks Melayu lama untuk kuliah. Nanti kami harus membaca Sejarah Kesusastraan Melayu Klasik karya Liaw Yock Fang dan menguraikannya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You around? Need prep to queue promotion in next 45 minutes...

Crisco, sorry to bother you, but if you haven't yet turned in for the night, filling one queue would be a great help. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

•  Done. As I have three hooks for 3 May I don't think I'll be able to touch those sets once they're made. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Many thanks. With luck, someone else will be around to do the promoting for those. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

FLC review request

Hey Crisco! Could you help review my current FLC nomination please? Feel free to weigh in on the title length of the article, as this issue has been brought up in the DYK nom as well. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the review! I've now addressed/responded to all your comments. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Oh Iboe

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Tirto Adhi Soerjo

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FYI, mentioned you in discussion

FYI, I've mentioned you in discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1 due to your recent formatting and copyediting to the article. — Cirt (talk) 04:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• The Echo notification picked that up. Thanks for the heads up though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
  • No worries, thanks for your helpful edits to the article, — Cirt (talk) 06:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Erwin Arnada

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Good luck

on the midterms. Been there, done that, still have anxiety nightmares about it! (not really, or at least not any more)!--Wehwalt (talk) 08:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. At least this is the last one! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about the duplicate post, not sure how that happened.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep, good luck! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Bounty

Hey Crisco. I noticed that you have Gita Gutawa up at the Bounty Board and it says it expires on May 2013. Do you mean when the month starts or until the end of that month? GamerPro64 15:08, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• Well, GamerPro64, we might as well count it as the beginning of the month. Nobody seems to want to claim it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 20:16, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Alright then. I'll just remove it from the board. Though it does make sense why nothings biting seeing that a few of these bounties were actually fulfilled. Kind of pointless once you get down to it. GamerPro64 20:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
    • It might not be well socialized. Ah well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 20:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Pembrita Betawi

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

I was just about to do some FPC closes that I knew were lingering. Thanks for taking care of them! --Pine^✉ 06:40, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I've closed your nomination for the Fantine painting, but I need to go offline now. I stopped at step 5 of the promotion process. Would you please finish? Since I've done the close I think it's safe for you to finish the job. Sorry that I'm out of time. --Pine^✉ 07:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

• No prob Pine. Did you try the script? It works really well! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Your featured picture candidate has been promoted!

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Margaret Bernardine Hall - Fantine - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Paoli Dam

Here the whole article has been rewritten, expanded except the filmography table and the infobox! Does it pas DYK criteria? --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

• Well Tito, You started with this, so it should. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I have gone ahead and nominated for DYK. We have hardly got any article on Bengali actress in the main page. Gradually I'll try to take to to GA. --Tito Dutta (contact) 11:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

• That sounds like a good project. I've got another film award FL in the works. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Scheduled tasks

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Need your help.

I saw the comments that you made for me to promote List of Academy Awards for Walt Disney to FL status. First of all, thank you for your comments.

• Based on your second comment, I have rephrased the sentence. Is it fine now?

• In your fourth comment you said that "significant screen innovation which has charmed millions and pioneered a great new entertainment field for the motion picture cartoon" would not be NPOV. The thing is I could the quote directly, as it was, from Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (you can see the source). So I can't really do anything about it. Do you have an alternate solution?

• In your sixth comment you told me that this image, would be a nice replacement for the image I have used right now. But for that I need to confirm that there was no copyright symbol on the trailer. Can you tell me how to do that?

Thank you. Surge_Elec (talk) 08:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'll reply on the nomination page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

  Edited, as per your replies. Kindly review. Surge_Elec (talk) 09:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the image check at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate

Thank you for the image check at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1. I've responded there at the FAC page.

I also took the initiative to merge those sections, as you suggested. Perhaps you could have another look to see if that's satisfactory?

Thanks again for your input and helpful suggestion,

— Cirt (talk) 06:16, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, that's good. I don't think I'll have the time for a more in-depth review just yet though (sorry!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:37, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Ah, okay, I see. Well, maybe sometime soon. Thanks for the image review, — Cirt (talk) 10:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
    • And on a related note of a similar freedom of speech topic, Happy World Press Freedom Day!!! :) — Cirt (talk) 10:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
      • You too! We got quite a bit on the main page today — Crisco 1492 (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

We've implemented your suggestions, and done several passes of copyediting. Care to have another look and reevaluate your position at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom for the Thought That We Hate/archive1? :) — Cirt (talk) 01:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'll see if I have time for a prose check later. I don't support based on image checks alone, although if your question is about images you should note that I crossed out the only issue. — Crisco 1492 (talk)

Oh, yeah, no worries and thanks again for the image check. I'm just getting worried because we've had several helpful contributors (including WP:GOCE itself) do several passes at copyediting, the title of the book itself indicates an interesting issue related to the topic of freedom of speech, and yet so far not much interest from Wikipedia users in commenting on this one.

:(

Anyways, thanks very much for all your help so far.

— Cirt (talk) 02:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

• It's only been up a week, right? For FAC right now that's not surprising. A lot of the hardcore reviewers are busy elsewhere. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Understood ... but ... gulp ... it's not doing well so far. :( — Cirt (talk) 02:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I think once you've gotten Nikki's comments out of the way there will be more reviews. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Check it over, you'll see that, so far, I've done my best to respond to all comments at the FAC. Unless you have any other suggestions for additional ways to respond to and address those comments? Do you see my point-by-point responses? Do you think I've adequately and sufficiently addressed points raised at the FAC so far? — Cirt (talk) 02:58, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
        • I think you've gotten the majority of her comments; I'm not that detailed when it comes to references so there may be something missing. Doesn't look it though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks for that feedback, that's encouraging. I've addressed the bulk of the next set by Neelix (talk · contribs), about to update back at the FAC page soon. — Cirt (talk) 05:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Added a minor update on the image check section, per comments below in the FAC by Neelix (talk · contribs). Also, responded (so far) to all incoming comments. Everything should be addressed now. :) — Cirt (talk) 18:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Update: Nikkimaria (talk · contribs) has stricken his oppose and acknowledged that the article has improved enough for him to do so. Do you think you could reevaluate your position at this point in time? Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 20:07, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Psst...she. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, quite, my apologies! — Cirt (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'll try and get a prose review done — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thank you, that'd be most appreciated. If you feel like doing any copyediting at all, that'd be most appreciated as well. — Cirt (talk) 22:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Si Ronda

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much

Thank you for even the smallest copyedits at Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. I really appreciate it. A lot. Any help is appreciated. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 23:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to help, although I can't get everything just yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

1. I responded to your prose comments, at the FAC subpage.
2. Your recommendations were all good and I did not object to any of them.
3. Therefore, I just simply implemented all of those changes directly to the article itself.
4. Hopefully the prose is improving to the point that one or two perhaps out of the 100,000 Wikipedians that are active in existence on this planet might one day think the article is worthy of WP:FA quality status. :) That would be nice. — Cirt (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

FP on Manhattan and NYC articles

I noticed that you changed an image out at both of those articles. The image that you replaced does also happen to be a FP (although only on two wikis and wiki commons), and it shows better on the Manhattan and NYC articles, being that it's such a small image in those places. So the borderless version has better visibility and is still a FP, and thus I suggest that you put the cropped image back.

Regards,
--ɱ (talk) 21:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC) 00:20, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• Feel free to revert, but the bordered version is the one promoted on the English Wikipedia and it is the one which will be on the main page in... oh, about two years. If it is not in those articles, then those articles will not be chosen for the main page bold link. The standard is to replace alternatives with passed FPs, although this can be reverted by those who maintain the articles. As for why the bordered version was passed on the English Wikipedia and not the borderless version, please see the nomination. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

oddness

Java Heat sounds like something I could do without - why is it film makers have to utilise cliches with such naive idiotic minded unbridled uneducated enthusiasm to over-do some things beyond any reason or even logic - bit like some of the dumb movies about bali and krakatoa - why do they do it? - when I spent days walking the streets of Manhattan, and took the ferry around it I was liberated for life - all those dumb night helicopter shots of new york were expunged like some deep religious experience, there were people there, they were friendly and not a single movie cliche jumped out at me in kms and hours of walking.... I suspect the java heat articles' atrocious grammar needs an courageous eye over it... sats 00:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'll see if I can get to it later, if a friendly TPS hasn't reached it yet. I was almost supposed to be an extra in that film... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
• hmm TPS ? nothing there that fits... nor does burned down unidentified victim and a few other choice phrases... sats 14:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • WP:TPS ;) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• Trimmed, grammarfied. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• remind me in Hong Kong to tell you the story about the only film that I have been in... sats 15:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • So long as it's politer than Ariel Peterpan and Luna Maya's ;) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
    • not in that field at all - and anyways it ended up on the cutting room floor due to a technical hitch :) sats 10:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Heheh. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Good catch

	Good catch
	Good catch of that situation with the tract housing FPs. It took me awhile to sort out how each of those images are different, tagged, used, etc. Pine✉ 18:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

• It's certainly odd how we managed to pass both. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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lucu sekali!!! as if there were not enough issues in life... oops unsigned sats 14:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• Usmar Ismail (at the very least) is on my to do list... which is only getting longer. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

the merge suggestion for pauntun and pantun is a very sensible merge suggestion on second thoughts... sats 15:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• Agree, but don't quite have the time right now (and not all that high priority) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Syair Abdul Muluk

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thanks very much for all of your help with successfully getting Freedom for the Thought That We Hate to Featured Article quality. I really appreciate the assistance in getting this article about freedom of speech to FA. — Cirt (talk) 23:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• You're very welcome! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

T-T

Hi Crisco, I've re-scanned at a higher spec and had a bit of a clean up of the T-T image. I've got absolutely no idea about the standards of the FPC criteria. I think there are some which this passes fairly easily, but when it talks about "high technical standard" I have no frame of reference for what is considered "high". Is the image too poor quality to think about a future FPC, or is it a viable prospect. Cheers! - SchroCat (talk) 07:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• I don't think this version, as it stands, is a viable FP. It's not very sharp at full size, which is the first thing they'd look at (did you use one of those artistic filters?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• No, it's not gone through any filtering process at all, just scanning and touching up the page imperfections. - SchroCat (talk) 16:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hmm... well, you could give it a try. They'd probably love to have an English actor featured... we don't have many. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• We've now reached the end of any limited technical knowledge I have! (let alone any of the requisite software) Is there a page that talks through this for idiots like me to understand? A sort of "Image processing and improving for Wiki-Dummies"? I'd like to get this brushed up a little more, if possible and am happy to take advice from all quarters! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• Did someone mention a possible FPC? Sharpen definatly I would say. I have no idea of the criteria; I took Holloway's lead image there last year, but it was dismissed from the word go. -- Cassianto^Talk 08:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• We used to have PPR, but that's been closed for a while. Your only choice, really, is to just try it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• OK, cheers for that - I'll have a bit of a play and see what I can do. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 17:58, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hang Ten

Sepuluh? nah, oldie [5] me thinks it needs a big chop - but hey - I am no coward ... :) - just the unencylopedic nature of the addition - and the verghing on an edit war there i thunk... up to you ... sats 08:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• WTF? Hang Tuah has a grave just like Siti Nurbaya does. (i.e. doesn't have a real one) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

If, we have a spare hour over coffee or otherwise in HK I can give you the full spiel on the mysteries of graves and their inhabitants or not - for most of southeast asia - it is probably a book that I will never write, so if we can we must find the time - there are some very interesting bits and pieces... btw dont be suprised if you have to limit editing on that article - if you look on the edit history - it looks like there have been... some previous attempts... sats 08:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• Watchlisting. Speaking of interesting graves, do you think that Muslim woman's grave from (Gresik?) is worth an article? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

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Help move

Could you move Konstantine Ernst to Konstantin Ernst. --Tomcat (7) 17:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Citra Award for Best Leading Actress

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Some Fair-use advice

Hey Crisco. Some fair-use questions have come up at Template:Did you know nominations/Brad Zellar. I'm fairly sure the f.a.r. for the poster and the album cover aren't good enough, but I don't want to give bad advice - being new to fair use concepts myself. Drop by if you have time, best The Interior (Talk) 16:16, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• Commented there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Merci beaucoup. Any idea why those namedrop notifications aren't working anymore, or is it just me. The Interior (Talk) 15:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Did you turn it off, The Interior? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• wtf, now it's working. Maybe I should go scream at the dev team ;) The Interior (Talk) 15:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Perhaps it depends on name space? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Indonesia

Bapak mengerti bahasa Indonesia?

Mine is terrible, but I try. I'm from Niagara Region, my wife is from Bali, which I've visited several times. I championed the posting of the LionAir 737 purchase to ITN last year.

Cheers!

--IP98 (talk) 21:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Bisalah. Niagara bagian mana, Amerika atau Kanada? (hehe I've lived in Indonesia for seven years now, so I've had little choice in the matter) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • saya orang Kanada! I'm from a small town at the end of the 406 called Welland. Funny enough, I also read Crichton and Clancy, and cycle about 40kms a day. How did you end up in Indo? --IP98 (talk) 21:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Beberapa tahun lalu saya ikut program pertukaran pelajar dengan Rotary International. Saya cukup betah (senang) di Indonesia, maka saya mengambil keputusan agar mengikuti kuliah di sini. Six years later and I'm married to an Indonesian and doing my masters'. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Mining in popular culture

Hi there! You may remember the deletion discussion for "Coal Miners in Hindi Fiction", in which there seemed to be a consensus that a broader article topic of "Mining in pop culture" would be notable and worth creating. I've started a draft at User:Atlantima/Mining in popular culture and thought you might be interested in helping me out. Currently I'm just dumping a bunch of references there but it's a start. Feel free to add to it!-- Atlantima ~✿~ (talk) 15:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hi there! Watchlisted. If I have the time (crazy busy week coming up) I'll try to help — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Xavier de Montépin

Hi, how is it going with this search? It doesn't seem from the Ref Desk posts that anyone turned up the book? If you still want to go through as many of Xavier de Montépin's books as possible, I can help you, just let me know which books. A lot are on google books. 184.147.137.171 (talk) 19:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the offer, but I'm concerned we won't be able to conclusively determine which work. I currently have "... a third work, Pembalasan dendam Hati, had extensive parallels with a work by Xavier de Montépin translated as De Wraak van de Koddebeier (The Gamekeeper's Revenge)." in the article, which will have to suffice (or I could remove the sentence altogether) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries, I understand! And that sentence seems fine. 184.147.137.171 (talk) 00:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! I'll give it one last hurrah (I'll try and track down Salmon's book, as suggested at the reference desk... hopefully it won't be too difficult) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Good luck! 184.147.137.171 (talk) 11:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hobbs images

I tried to change the Hobbs images to JPEG files, but the upload form did not really like it and started getting grumpy as the file type did not match the file extension. Or something. Suggestions gratefully received! Sarastro1 (talk) 21:00, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

• Those would have to be uploaded separately (different file format so Commons shouldn't have an issue) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Ah. I hate images! Thanks, and done now. All changed. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Tanya

Sy baru2 ini membuat artikel K. Heyne, dgn satu referensi penting saja (klo anda punya tambahan referensi, tlg dibuatkan artikelnya di bahasa Inggris, beserta referensi tambahan tersebut). Nah, apakah Berkas:Karel Heyne.jpg itu sudah boleh masuk Commons? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 14:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• Saya bisa coba besok, pas ke Tangerang. Lihat nanti. Kalau gambarnya kita belum tahu kapan diterbitkan, sehingga tidak dapat mengetahui apakah bebas hak cipta atau tidak. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:John Le Mesurier

Hi, I wondered if you could provide some input into the discussion at the bottom of the page involving a dispute over a fact in this FA article.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:19, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism at the Mark Satin bio

Dear Crisco, - A ciuple of hours into the Mark Satin draft-dodger picture being posted on the Wikipedia main page, there is vandalism on the Mark Satin page: infobox is missing, main picture is missing, and Arabic lettering has been inserted before the min text.

I have never tried to reverse other people's edits, but I will try. Of course, that may only infuriate the vandal(s), and it's nearly midnight here and I lack the stamina to stay up and keep minitoring this. Can you help? And can we get a lock on the Satin page, at least temporarily? I feel foolish - should have asked for this earlier, it was so predictable that this would happen - war evaders are not this planet's most favorite people, I'm afraid. - Babel41 (talk) 06:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

• Am watchlisting. It's standard for high-profile articles, sadly, but at least there are a lot of people watching right now. We generally don't semi-protect articles in advance though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:03, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Editor Stephan Schulz did what I couldn't do, and now your supportive note. Much relief, now can sleep. - Babel41 (talk) 07:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

• Glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:26, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

More Hobbs

Just to let you know that Hobbs is now at FAC here. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

FLC review request

Hey Crisco! Could I trouble you to help review my current FLC co-nom please? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• I've already reviewed... last month I think. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:20, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I meant this one. Looks like the stress of exams is really getting to me. —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:15, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• That's doable, although not today. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Admin needed in Queue 4

Crisco, in the hopes that you haven't turned in for the night, there's a hook in Queue 4 that, based on what has been pointed out on WT:DYK, is inaccurate. Since this involves the resting place of Pope John Paul II, letting it onto the front page in 8 hours would be highly unfortunate.

With luck, one of the three hooks in a prep area will be a suitable replacement. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• No chance in me turning in early tonight; gotta get some presentations done. Replaced the hook. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC on TFA images

Dear Crisco 1492, you may be interested in a discussion that I've started at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article#Request for comment - images in TFA blurbs. All views welcome. Bencherlite^Talk 16:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

More T-T

Any thoughts on the following, both to check they are OK for Commons, and to see what else need to be done to even think about an FPC? File:T-T in the Red Skelton Show.jpg and File:T-T in the Bing Crosby Show, 1961.jpg Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 17:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• They both look fine. As for the FPC... you could try, but there are still quite a few scratches on the image. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• OK - I'll try and brush them up a little more first. Cheers! - SchroCat (talk) 17:15, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

84th Academy Awards

Hello there? Do you have any suggests comments regarding the 84th Academy Awards article? I'm trying to promote it for featured list status. If you have any suggestions, please post them here.

–Birdienest81 (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Juskalian not promoted...?

Why?Proudbolsahye (talk) 03:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

• Please see the top of WP:FPC. Five or more reviewers must support an image for it to be promoted; this one had only three. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok ill resubmit. Thank you. Proudbolsahye (talk) 04:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

• You may want to wait a bit as this has been two times in close succession already. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:04, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mieke Wijaya

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Notice

We demand that you update our Wiki entry to say "Private University" - our true classification - and stop labeling us a for-profit career college. We will not hesitate to subpoena all of your true identities again in federal court. We've already been assisted in bringing down the Controversy section of our page due to our cyber-stalkers spreading lies about us. Just because our investors are Mormon does not mean we are a Mormon school. And just because one of our directors was investigated for fraud and bribery years ago does not mean our school deserves a Controversy section on Wikipedia. We will continue to fight anyone who attacks our school on the internet. You have been warned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lymani (talk • contribs) 18:14, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, but which article are you referring to? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Neumont University, I believe. Chris857 (talk) 23:01, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• I thought as much. Haven't met many universities which threaten to subpoena editors' identities. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• It's happened before... :/ Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• I remember. I'm the one who full-protected the page while the subpoena was up. Say, Ed, could you check Af Chapman (ship)? There are paraphrasing concerns on the talk page and I'm a dolt when it comes to writing about ships. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:29, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• Well, assuming the reference is good (I have no way to check it), that's the general way the early history of a ship is summarized in every book. The only thing missing is the date of keel laying. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• My concern is mostly the other sources, but oh well. I've replied at WT:FPC — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Meriam Bellina

The DYK project (nominate) 01:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/USS Macon (ZRS-5)

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:NH43901-enhanced.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 06:42, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Minangkabau Wikipedia

Hai, apa kabar?. Bisa minta tolong utk membantu hal ini
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Wikipedias#Minangkabau_Wikipedia
Terima kasih *Annas* (talk) 10:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Bugis wp

dan tolong bantu juga yg ini, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Wikipedias#Buginese_wikipedia
Terima Kasih *Annas* (talk) 11:01, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ajit Singh of Khetri

If you have some time, could you please review the DYK? The requested date is coming closer, but, review has not begun. You will get a copyvio warning from some scoopweb, ignore that, that's a mirror of Wikipedia. --Tito Dutta (contact) 13:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks you! Although, you know it, just to make it clear— if I ask you to review an article, I am not asking to "pass" it quickly, detailed review is always appreciated as it helps the article. In a recent DYK, Template:Did you know nominations/Paoli Dam (where you cropped the image), I requested 11 May or 18 May date, they sent it to main page on 8 May! Anyway, hope this one will go on the requested date! --Tito Dutta (contact) 23:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

• Make sure to move the template to the holding section. That should force them to wait for the right date. Oh, I'm not looking for a quick tick... I'm trying to give a thorough enough review that we won't have the peanut gallery shooting at us. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Should I move it or someone else? --Tito Dutta (contact) 23:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

• You can do it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Young Hare

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Albrecht Dürer - Hare, 1502 - Google Art Project.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For your valuable comments and help, that significantly helped me to promote List of Academy Awards for Walt Disney to Featured List status. Surge_Elec (talk) 09:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

• Way to go! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank YOU. Surge_Elec (talk) 15:54, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Alcohol Is Free DYK

I've added the quote marks to the Alcohol Is Free DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

GA nomination of Capital punishment and President of India

These are good article nominees nominated by me. It would be greatly helpful if you review these articles.Thanks a lot!Suri 100 (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Gibraltargate

It seems that some people never tire of creating a scene over the over-preponderance or otherwise of Gibraltar articles. I'm occasionally amused at the statistics that are churned out, perhaps in some attempt to institutionalise a sort of quota system for articles by nation. It's just as well Indonesia is the fourth most populous nation on earth, or you would be staring at allegations of Indo-Gate. ;-) -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 09:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• Especially before I went back to school! I don't think I've had a hundred articles since going back (most recently written one, Syair Siti Zubaidah Perang Cina, is actually more Malaysia than Indonesia) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

No response to message

I am sorry to state that you did not respond to this [[6]] sent to you by me.Please treat this as as a remainder and that there is no compulsion for you to respond.Suri 100 (talk) 10:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• That wasn't even ten hours, by the looks of it. One reply for you: WP:CANVASSING. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I am not canvassing , i just requested you to review those articles. Since you are a valuble contributer, i thought you will be in a position to review those articles . In no way i am intending to force you to promote those article to GA articles and any suggestions in the regard of both articles from you ,it will be duly considered. Suri 100 (talk) 11:08, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• It may not be your intent to canvass, but when you've asked so many different editors such a conclusion is almost unavoidable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

You may have seen my contributions page :). They were not willing to review my articles. Moreover , it was just the request for reviewing and if you do so ,you are free to pass or fail the article (whatever the option may be) anyhow i dont feel that i have done a great thing in nominating these articles , it is for the common good and my understanding of improving the quality of articles .Suri 100 (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• Actually, most of those showed up in my Watchlist. I suggest, at the moment, making sure the articles are stable and well-written while waiting for a reviewer to come. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Ivan Ooze

Could you restore the page as the original reason has been negated?—Ryulong (琉竜) 12:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

  Thank you.—Ryulong (琉竜) 13:21, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Air Mata Iboe

The DYK project (nominate) 00:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You, us

So the Sjambok came from your neck of the woods. And then some descendent of some kinfolk of mine says this. Drmies (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• Cripes, that's nasty. Good block, very good block. Not surprised if Indonesian-style whips made it to South Africa. After all, your countrymen were more than glad to take Indonesians there (I heard they're still finding old Javanese manuscripts in the country). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:23, 24 May 2013 (UTC).
  • Yep. My countrymen would have taken anyone anywhere for a buck. Hey, I left you a shout-out in an edit summary. Take it easy Chris, Drmies (talk) 03:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Didn't get the notification. Guess it doesn't work in edit summaries. And yes, that's an absolute disaster... maybe SOAS will buy the holdings? They'd take better care than Indonesians would. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:52, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Oh, it's sad alright. And man, that museum, and the public reading room, magnificent. It's one of my favorite buildings in the city. But they've been threatened with cuts many times before. Ironic, given how much money they helped the government steal. Drmies (talk) 04:01, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
        • Indeed. Sigh... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		For your contributions to bring Lie Kim Hok to Good Article status. Thanks, as always, for your amazingly prolific contributions on Indonesian literature and film! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Khazar! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• And congrats on that star for Gagak Item, too--good to see it on there! -- Khazar2 (talk) 10:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• So am I. I think this is my shortest FA so far, although it's little wonder why. Our article is already more detailed than the sources. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Quick question

Hello Crisco,

When do these newly promoted FP's appear on the main page? I would like to know. Thanks! Proudbolsahye (talk) 00:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Right now it's about a year and a half to two years, but you can make a special request (right now it's to me) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Great! Well I have a special request for the 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. I would like this picture to be featured on the main page on April 24, 2015 which is the day that will mark its 100 year anniversary. But it just seems so far away...is it possible to have it scheduled for April 24, 2014 as well? Proudbolsahye (talk) 01:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Images only run in POTD once, so it would probably be best to wait for 2015 (we can schedule that far ahead, so no technical issue) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Great! Okay schedule it for April 24, 2015. Is it possible to have a special header for the picture saying "Today is the 100 year anniversary of the Armenian Genocide" or something of that sort? Proudbolsahye (talk) 01:41, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• No, that generally isn't done for anniversaries (compare blurbs for persons on their birthdays, for example) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:41, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Okay but are we set for April 24, 2015? And is there anyway we can inform the public that it is the 100th anniversary? Proudbolsahye (talk) 04:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, it's scheduled here. You can add the blurb if you want; just make sure to keep it neutral. We can state the year it occurred (1915), but a date would be pushing it (especially since there were multiple events) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:53, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry Crisco, I dont know how to add a blurp :( Proudbolsahye (talk) 05:07, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• You just have to click the edit button at the top (like normal) and write the appropriate text next to the line where it says "|caption=". An example can be seen at Template:POTD/2013-03-15. You can safely ignore the other fields. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Okay I think were set. Thank you. By the way, the Soghomon Tehlirian grave will be revised under the non-free license rational or fair use. Proudbolsahye (talk) 05:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• You're very welcome. As for the grave, that should work. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Does this suffice? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soghomom_Tehlirian_monument_Fresno,_CA1.jpg Proudbolsahye (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Need much smaller resolution and a clear declaration of why it's needed in the article (purpose). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Gagak Item

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Gagak Item. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks Tony! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lydia Kandou

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

your recent comment

Your recent comment on my talk page included, "s/he's done something similar to me, again over an AFD".  Was there something you wanted to talk about?  Unscintillating (talk) 04:33, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

• We attempted to discuss it quite a bit when it happened, so no, but this appears to be a pattern with you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:01, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Keith Davis (rugby union)

Hi - I see that you have promoted this DYK to the Preparation Area with the original hook. As both I (the reviewer) and User:Shudde (the article's creator) agree that ALT1 is a better hook, can you take another look at this. There is nothing especially interesting about losing a rugby match or having "one of the worst experiences in his career", but waiting half a century before receiving a cap is somewhat more unusual. Thanks for your hard work. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

•  Done, thanks for the input. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

'Polystyrene slaps

I just wanted to check that I wasn't suffering from tired eyes or tired vocabulary... In Queue 1, what are "polystyrene slaps in a ceiling at Düsseldorf International Airport" supposed to resemble? Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 07:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

• ""polystyrene slabs", perhaps? A form of insulation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

• Fixed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Re:question

I don't have any outstanding article or nomination in DYK or GAN or PR. The article Sholay was in pr which has been archived.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

If you some time, comments on Sholay will be excellent. It's ready for FAC. You can comment on its talk page.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

• Great, I'll try to look into that this week(end) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:23, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Syair Siti Zubaidah Perang Cina

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Portrait of Maria Anna

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Diego Velázquez - Maria Anna of Spain - Prado.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry...

Hi Crisco, sorry, I seem to have inadvertently opened a can of worms with the passing comment I made about Idiom dictionary earlier. My apologies for having given you extra work! Purely by chance, I'd come across another nomination last night with inaccurate information but managed to get the nominator to check/change it before it hit the main page this morning. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• No biggies, it happens (and I may have been the one who moved it from prep to queue anyways... don't quite recall) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for looking at the article. Please note that there's more to be done and I have provided some details at the article's talk page. You don't have to be the one to do more work on this but I'm not sure of the exact process, myself. Advice on how to proceed in resuming work on the article would be helpful, if you have any. Warden (talk) 12:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK - Zorotypus impolitus

Hi, I left a message here addressing your query. AshLin (talk) 14:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• And I just replied ;) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

FLC

Hi, this one is on the board since April 25, could you please review this? Regards, Zia Khan 23:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• That has been a while. I'll try to get to something this week, but no promises how soon. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

T-T

Hi Crisco, I've only just stumbled over this: sorry it took me too long to find it, or I would have added my obvious support to it. (I've also just found out what the little red box at the top of my screen means too, and am feeling an even bigger idiot than I was before! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• LOL. Well, I'll try again... next week maybe. Or you could? I want to give the place a bit of cool-down time, but obviously they consider it high enough quality. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:29, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• I don't mind doing it - I've just nominated another, which is my first FPC, so once that goes through I'll pop in the other image. Cheers! - SchroCat (talk) 12:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• I'll keep an eye out! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• Oh yeah, don't forget to transclude the page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• Of course I forgot to transclude it! Should be up and running now. Thanks for the reminder! - SchroCat (talk) 12:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Can you have a look at this?

Hi Crisco, could you have a look at this Adrian Schoolcraft nomination to see if you can fathom what is going on, please? It's also just been promoted to Prep 3 without the hook being formatted? Mind you, the whole article/hook strikes me as being mainly negative about a BLP? I was going to flag it on WT:DYK but feel I've caused enough trouble over there already! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• No, you're right. The reviewer promoted the hook he reviewed, which is a big no-no. Feel free to stop by the nomination and express your concerns about the neutrality / appropriateness of the hook. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Matjan Berbisik

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Queue building

Hi, I noticed that we're both active in building sets for DYK, and that today I nearly added a prep area when you had already started editing it, which would have been immensely inconvenient for you had you edit-conflicted with me. Do you think it would be worth it establishing a convention of adding the {{In use}} or similar to a set before editing or would this be more hassle than it's worth? --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 23:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• It might be worth discussing at WT:DYK. When, exactly, was this? If it was what is now queue 1, that may have been an issue indeed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I believe it was, since I realised when I was unable to review Template:Did you know nominations/Buchwaldoboletus lignicola that you had promoted it to prep 1, but if I had picked another article to promote I would not have noticed we were building the same set concurrently.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 23:30, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I'll try and leave a template next time (didn't expect anyone to be building as we were already at 4 empty preps) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Ok, I'll do the same. I suppose I could copy the entire page before saving, so if there is a problem I can just paste it into another prep set, is there anything that is specific to which set it is or are they all the same?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 23:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Panggilan Darah

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Wilderness DYK

I've responded to a couple of your concerns about the DYK on the nomination page. Thanks. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 00:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international cricket centuries by Mark Waugh/archive1 —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 08:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Task 2.(b.) completed

Hello crisco. Hope you don't forget me. After a long time, finally I am back on wikipedia. I was out of it due to some reasons. I am here to tell you that I have complected my next task i.e. two fold an article. So please See it [7] and give your reviews. Thank you. Sorry for my earlier disappearance.

I am still improving this article, but for the task completion I think it is OK. I will further edit this article.--ARUN SHARMA ¹⁰¹Talk | Email 08:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Looks pretty good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Rapana venosa 01.JPG, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:34, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Sholay theme

The theme section reads ok now?--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Yeah, that article looks to be doing well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:08, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Semar Gugat

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Geology of North America at DYK

Hi Crisco 1492, I see you contributed to the above DYK review. The original editor (Tobias 1984) seems to have been put off DYK for ever; meanwhile, the IP editor (it seems clear there is only one) is vehemently opposing the DYK which seems to other reviewers including both of us to be of acceptable quality.

The IP claims geological knowledge, and asserts multiple copyvios. If the latter is true - I've asked for details - then of course they must be removed. The IP is insisting on the article's being error-free and "good geology and geography", which is way above DYK level. For me, this is basically disruptive behaviour, and certainly very time-consuming, leaving out the effect it had on Tobias 1984; I remain agnostic as to whether the IP is correct or not about the geology.

The IP has several IP addresses, and at some of them has raised similar but not such long-lasting issues on at least one other DYK.

What is the appropriate course of action here? I've never seen such a case at DYK. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

• Replied there. The whole nomination is a mess. Short and sweet: assertion of copyvio needs to be backed up, major errors need to be pointed out, and if either are confirmed they need to be cleaned up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• As a side note, this is an interesting diff. Not the kind of edit a well-meaning expert would make. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you for stepping in, Crisco. Well, I did step in by giving the nom a question mark. Who knows what could have the articles and nomination happened if we both have not stepped in? What do you think? By the way, I want to give you a beer or a barnstar, but I can't find which. --George Ho (talk) 01:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks is enough. I'm curious about the editor's reply, as I dropped a pretty big gauntlet.03:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The same IP editor replied in Template:Did you know nominations/Geology of North America. I hope he's not making any more trouble; otherwise, report him in wp:ANI. --George Ho (talk) 03:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, watchlisted. He or she seems to be willing to communicate, which is good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:44, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

BTW I also found this edit. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Kakak tahu ini apa?

Sy baru2 ini menemukan artikel dari kranten.kb.nl, situs yg mempertelakan sejarah dari Nusantara berdasarkan media massa. Menurut sy, situs ini ibarat intan berlian di antara tumpukan misteri sejarah yg belum terungkap. Nah, btw, artikwl yg sy temui itu, membicarakan masalah apa, sih? Apakah itu forum sejarah (mengingat ada kata "Keesings Historisch Archief") atawa, itu kumpulan anggota dari sebuah forum (mengingat adanya sekumpulan nama orang di bawah kata "Keesings Historisch Archief")? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 03:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Sepertinya yang satu ini adalah iklan untuk suatu buku atau tulisan yang diperjual-belikan. Yang nama-nama itu sepertinya staf redaksi. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Kak, yg kali ini sy menanyakan perihal pribadi kakak. Pertama-tama, sy mohon maaf seumpama menyinggung hati Kakak. Apakah anda akan terus berdiam di Indonesia ini selamanya sampai kelak di hari tua dan mengubah warga negara anda jadi WNI? --Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Rencannya sih ngikutin kerja aja. Tapi kalau jadi WNI, tidak berminat. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Inundation, Gibraltar

Crisco, this still needs a COI/promotional review component; I was wondering whether you could supply it, so the article could then be promoted (assuming there is neither COI nor any promotional aspect to the article). Thanks.

Incidentally, I restored the Gibraltar sections of the special occasion holding area, which had apparently been unilaterally deleted by SpinningSpark a couple of weeks ago. I think I would have noticed an RfC on Gibraltar; absent that, this section needs to hang around until the restrictions are repealed. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Agree about reinstating such a section. I had intended to mention the COI/promotional aspect, but I guess I wasn't explicit enough — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:21, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• The emphasis on neutrality might cover promotional (though it's a stretch), but someone can write with perfect neutrality while still having a conflict of interest; they're really two different things. Thanks for adding an explicit comment. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:02, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• I thought it didn't matter if DYK writers had a COI, only that it did not affect the neutrality of what they wrote.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 15:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• @Blue: Alright, I'll remember that for next time.

@Gilderien: Gibraltar has... special requirements. But I really don't agree with them... if only the RFCs would go my way once in a while. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Citra Award for Best Leading Actor

The DYK project (nominate) 08:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

It's pretty great having someone on the other side of the world who covers my talk page while I sleep--I love waking up and finding all the questions already answered. Thanks as always! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

• Always glad to help! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Tarmina

Can you expand?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

• Well, my good Doctor, I think the article's current state is your answer.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Srigala Item

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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About next job

Hello Crisco. My next task is Improve the referencing in an article, using reliable sources.. Will you consider Central Pollution Control Board, or I have to edit another article. Thanks. --ARUN SHARMA ¹⁰¹Talk | Email 03:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• The paraphrasing looks a little close... statements like " industrial activity, construction activity, generator sets, loud speakers, public address systems, music systems, vehicular horns and other mechanical devices have deleterious effects on human health." seem to have been copied verbatim. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• • So I need to write same stuff in my words or just write brief introduction about that ??? --ARUN SHARMA ¹⁰¹Talk | Email 04:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
    • Yeah, your own words is best. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Informing about an FAC

If possible, please have a look at Greed (film), which is in FAC now; a very interesting film.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:31, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• I'll see if I have time later. I have read the article, just didn't get around to reviewing last time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Ajit_Singh_of_Khetri

Can you check this DYK? The desired date is tomorrow first or second US slot/second or third Indian slot! --Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 11:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

• BlueMoonset, could you double check/promote this? As I gave the tick I can't. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

• Crisco, sorry. I'm glad to see someone else did it; I saw your note just before something urgent dropped in my lap, and I never did get back to Wikipedia after that until now. I wish people putting together prep sets remembered to look at the special occasion holding area as a matter of course... BlueMoonset (talk) 02:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• I wish so too... glad it worked out in this case though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• BlueMoonset Two of my DYKs have not been posted on the desired date this month: Template:Did you know nominations/Paoli Dam requested on 14 May or 21 May posted on 8 May, Template:Did you know nominations/Meghe Dhaka Tara (2013 film) requested on 14 June, it is already posted! If you see my recent DYKs, I am writing desired date in CAPITAL BOLD so that promoters notice it. --Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 17:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• Tito Dutta, you need to be vigilant, and if you see an article promoted instead of being moved to the special occasion holding area, post something in WT:DYK right away. People make mistakes, but they can be fixed if something is said right away. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• BlueMoonset, yes, it seems a nominator needs to check every step. Here Template:Did you know nominations/Lotika Sarkar most probably ALT2 was selected, the main hook has been promoted to prep3. I crossed ALT1 after the end of the discussion but forgot to strikethrough the main hook. :( When I review I try to mention the selected ALT in the concluding comments "ALT1 is good to go", so that the promoter notices it. --Tito Dutta  (talk • contributions • email) 04:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2

• Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2

I've responded to all of your points at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive2, perhaps you can now reevaluate your position on whether the article should be promoted to FA?

Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 19:48, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've responded to your most recent suggestion at the FAC, and I've gone ahead and created a Footnotes sect with the info you recommended. I believe at this point I've addressed all of your helpful points raised. :) — Cirt (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

• Yep, done and supported. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• BTW, Cirt, if you have the chance would you mind looking at my nom? If you have no time, don't worry about it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay will try to take a look after a nap. :) — Cirt (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:52, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Question re DYK

How is five times expansion calculated for DYK? By word count? I'm trying to expand a longish page and if word count I might make it, though g-books finally died on me, so maybe not. Anyway, just wondering. Thanks. Victoria (talk) 01:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• By characters of readable prose (text in the article, excluding block quotes, references, and lists). So, for example, Friedrich Carl Albert Schreuel would need another 4,472 characters of prose to reach 5X. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, that always confuses me. Would you mind checking Baby Doe Tabor for me? I started here. I think it's close but am not totally sure. If it's good, I'll try to submit. Need to think of a hook. Victoria (talk) 21:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• It has been 5xs expanded since June 2.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:56, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• Agree, it's reached 5x. 4650 * 5 = 23,250; you've got 23,454.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, for some reason the tool I have (Dr PDA) only shows 23kb, not 23,454 - so I didn't know. No room for tightening the writing though, that's for sure! Victoria (talk) 00:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

• Not too much, no. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Image of newspaper

Hello,

I posted the following on the Journalism Wikiproject talk page and was told you might have the answer to this question:

I created the article Colorado Springs Business Journal and found that there are images of newspapers and journals on commons with the {{Non-free newspaper image|image has rationale=yes}} tag. I tried to upload the image (from here), with that tag. On preview, I saw that the image would be a candidate for immediate deletion because it was a disallowed fair use image.

How might I go about getting an image that would be able to be used without a copyright concern?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• This is certainly not "disallowed". Do you want to use this particular image? Personally, I'd take an established scan (i.e. like at The Jakarta Post) then upload using the exact same rationale, only changing the source and name of the newspaper. You can use the plain form for that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! That helped a lot!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

• Looks good. My only suggestion would be to reduce the image's size a little (perhaps down to 300px wide), as all the extra pixels are going to waste — Crisco 1492 (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm a little confused, ok maybe more than a little confused. Within the article, the size is set to 200px. If you mean change the pixels in the actual file, do you mean resize within a photoeditor and upload the image again? (I could reduce by a percentage, but I don't know how to resize by pixels. I've never been able to figure out how to upload a new version of a file). Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Never mind the part about uploading a new version. I see on Wikipedia (vs. commons) there's a button that can be clicked to upload a new version.--CaroleHenson (talk) 19:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)