User talk:Acroterion/Archive Q2 2010

Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District

Hey Acroterion, I am working on the Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District (among other Stephens City, Virginia related pages) and the N-SHD only has 4 references. Not alot.

The references are...

• Virginia Department of Historic Resources
• nationalregisterofhistoricalplaces.com
• United States Department of the Interior
• Newtown History Center

Is there any other sources that I should be using for references? I feel the page is light on references, but am not sure where to turn. This is my first jount into the arena of National Register of Historic Places. If you could let me know where you go to reference pages like this and even take a look at the page, I would appreciate it :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

For Virginia, VLR and NRHP nomination PDFs and other materials are available, by county and independent city, at the Virginia Landmarks Registry here. This will be the actual NRHP nomination document, which should be essential. Acroterion _(talk) 00:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't have the link to the only picture that site has, but I do have the PDF document for the nomination document and the PDF version of the map they used referenced on the page. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Then you're most of the way there; there usually aren't many other items available, although if the NRHP nom has a bibliography, those sources should be checked out. Acroterion _(talk) 01:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I will check that out and add it to the page as well. I wasn't sure if NRHP articles had many edits or just a few as this is my first delve into it and trying to get it looking good. Might take some more pictures later on this Spring to get an updated shot of the town. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The next couple of weeks will be a good time to get pictures of streetscapes - there's a little green and some blossoms, but not big inconvenient treefuls of leaves. Acroterion _(talk) 01:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Virginia is a-bloom with Cherry and Apple Blossoms and Dogwoods among others.

Got a NRHP question. What is a "contributing" and "non-contributing" property? You can find it on the right hand side of this document, first page. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

A contributing property is of the time and character of the district, and usually either has some distinction of its own, or is an appropriate background structure in the historic district. A non-contributing structure is at odds with the place and is usually out of the time period. Think of a Sheetz store in the middle of a bunch of sober Federal-style houses. Acroterion _(talk) 01:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey...Good Example! There is a Sheetz right outside the N-SHD. You literally cross the street on the side of the Sheetz and you are in the N-SHD. But that makes sense, there are some apartments (probably built in the 80s) and of course the Exxon and Sheetz that would be out. So I can add that. I looked at the long history that the NHRP nomination had and it is pretty much a mirror (in different words) of the history on the Stephens City page, so I am going to stick with what I have. I might use your explanation of the contributing/non-contributing property, if you don't mind. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:52, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the Sheetz must have stuck in my mind from the last time I was in town a couple of years ago. I wouldn't try to highlight the contributing/non-contributing thing too much, as it's a bit jargonish, but it might be worth a couple of sentences. Acroterion _(talk) 01:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, neat! I will add some information about it, but keep it to a sentence or two. Thanks for your help :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 02:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Ed

Actually, User:Tryntius editor was right. Snopes confirms it. Mr. Ed was a zebra. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, not buying it. B&W technology wasn't so bad that a zebra would appear as a palomino, zebras are notoriously hard to train, and there's more to a zebra than stripes. Also, the NFL business is fantasy, as is the Johnny Cash item. Acroterion _(talk) 13:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

When I saw that Mr. Ed page on Snopes that Neutralhomer linked to, my first thought was that it was an April Fool's Day joke. --Orlady (talk) 14:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Every now and then, Snopes can be disappointing. In this case there are numerous sources verifying that the protagonist was a palomino horse named Bamboo Harvester, and the rest of the Snopes article stretches credulity even farther. Having watched Mister Ed in the original in the 60s, I find I know more than I should about talking horses. In later life I found it fascinating that as an architect in the days of hand-drawn plans, Wilbur Post had plenty of time to hobnob with his horse. Acroterion _(talk) 14:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not saying we should use it, but was saying the source the user was using was correct, though going about it in a very bad way. I bet (though didn't look) there are plenty of better sources that show Mr. Ed. was a horse (of course, of course) and Snopes isn't going to change those. Just was pointing out this one instance. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 17:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

hi

who are you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabreena312 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I am what I am. Acroterion _(talk) 13:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

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A bold assertion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Copenspire << That page is not vandalism. Why did you delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qundzy (talk • contribs) 03:25, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. Vandalism it was, deleted it is. Acroterion _(talk) 03:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Acroterion. You have new messages at ThaddeusB's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Questions

I would like to ask you what is inappropriate about my article Dave Tower ? I have not done anything malicious, violent, expletive, or anything. I have just done an article about a person i know. Actually, my Harvard Professor. So i really do not understand what is wrong with my article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsoxworld (talk • contribs) 01:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 02:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

First off, this is no joke or prank. This is my professor. He is a brilliant man that is very smart. Yes, he has done LSD. And no, i am not going to lie to you since what is the point. The true meaning of this article is to show how the world is guided by young chemists. If you are really mad about this.. Then you would have already deleted this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redsoxworld (talk • contribs) 02:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you like your instructor, but you have provided no indication that the person meets our inclusion guidelines. Acroterion _(talk) 02:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

www.themostseconds.com page

Why did you delete this? It was for a website that i was requested to make it for theem

Wikipedia isn't a place to advertise, or to post articles on websites that don't meet Wikipedia's guidelines for web content - see WP:WEB. Acroterion _(talk) 23:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, im sorry for vandalising

Plz come make a profile at, www.themostseconds.com and see why i was making the page, these ppeople are really fun people, plz use your current name as well so i can identifie you, thank you!

Go in the chat room to meet them

Thanks

Thanks all the same. You weren't vandalizing, the article just doesn't meet inclusion requirements. Acroterion _(talk) 23:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Category sorting

Just a reminder that the DEFAULTSORT markup is correctly in uppercase with a colon, not lowercase with a pipe, e.g. {{DEFAULTSORT:Saint-Cyr, Fort de}}, not {{defaultsort|Saint-Cyr, Fort de}}. —Paul A (talk) 01:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Oops, thanks for catching that. Acroterion _(talk) 01:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Whirls theory

Hello Acroterion. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Whirls theory to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. I'm maybe assuming too much good faith: it's clearly OR, but I don't think there is the intent to deceive which is the essence of a hoax. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

That's fine: I agree that there appears to be no deceptive intention there. The OR is another matter, but we have no CSD/OR. Acroterion _(talk) 16:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

vandalism

Note that User:Eddievedder93, whom you warned recently about a bogus page creation, has now vandalized two pages. Tb (talk) 16:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know: blocked. Acroterion _(talk) 17:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

North Georgetown

Thanks for responding to the question; I've added a reply. By the way, would you be willing to watch my talk and respond to other questions for several days? I'm planning to be gone from early Friday to mid-to-late Monday, and I'm not going to have consistent Internet. Nyttend (talk) 04:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Will do. Acroterion _(talk) 16:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks much. I'm hoping to bring back pictures of various NRHP locations, including some Monongahela village sites in southwestern PA. I was hoping to visit the Meadowcroft Rockshelter, but unfortunately they don't open until May :-( Nyttend (talk) 22:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Turned out that I only got one of the sites; most of them were too far away, and the roads were so poorly marked that I couldn't find the closest one. I'd never driven in the rural roads of Appalachia, so I never realised how slow and confusing they are if one isn't familiar with them. Nyttend (talk) 01:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Nyttend Day (after the fact) ! I've had much the same problem - I go out with a list, map, coordinates and a GPS, and still come back with nothing much. There's no safe place to park, or the subject is obscured by trees, wires, mountains, a big damn fence, dung heaps, signs ($1.99 special!!!), the subject's better lighted in morning/afternoon/summer/winter/never, or I just get lost anyway. It's hard enough when you know the place well, and it all takes three times as long as you'd expect. Still, I've learned a few things, but I will admit it's much easier in somewhere like, say, Delaware than the hills of SW PA. Acroterion _(talk) 12:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Frederick County Public Schools

As my quest to get the Stephens City, Virginia page up to Good Article snuff is at a lull, I am working on a side project. I am working on updating the Frederick County Public Schools page. So far, I have just the names of the schools (elementary, middle and high), the alternative schools, and the defunct schools.

My idea is that on the main Frederick County Public Schools page, there will be blurb histories of each school, a picture, and a link to the main article about the school. You can see the setup of the right now here.

What I was most surprised with was the defunct schools, by far. There are TONS of them. I though I knew alot about the county, was I sorely wrong. My question for you, since there will be articles about defunct schools (and historic ones probably) how should I proceed? There will be ALOT of information, ALOT of trips to the Archives Department at the library and ALOT of trips to the Archives in the county courthouse. I don't want to get wordy and put EVERYTHING in there or do I? What should I put in articles about defunct schools that would make them notable? I know current and recently defunct schools are notable, but these are like 40 and 50 years defunct, if not more.

If you could leave me some ideas, take a look at the page, and let me know what you think, as always, I would appreciate it. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

You can usually see several phases of school construction in the eastern US: a frame schoolhouse built by locals for a hired schoolmaster, a county-sponsored brick schoolhouse from the late 19th century, a larger building from the teens or '20s, bigger, flatter schools from the 50s and 60s, and so on. It's an interesting research project: the problem is, it's a research project, and trips to the county archives and such amount to primary sources and original research. Not saying that it's not worthwhile, but it's of limited use here on WP. I'd summarize as much as possible, as detailed information starts to creep outside the project scope here. As you observe, notability issues are apparent, although they would be less so in a summary article. I would be in favor of a concise summary, focusing on schools that have some notability in WP terms and which are documented in secondary sources. You can mention others, but should keep it to a mention.

You may well end up with a small book that could be published under the auspices of the local historical society - in other words, a valuable contribution to scholarship on the history of Frederick County. But it's different in concept and scope from WP, so you'll have to keep that distinction in mind and use information judiciously. Acroterion _(talk) 16:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, got caught up in other things and forgot I posted here as well on this. I will definitely keep what you have said in mind. I messaged a couple other people (wanted a couple opinions) back on April 15 and they said pretty much the same thing....make it short, sweet, to the point, don't get too wordy. :) But that book idea is a really good idea. There are many "Images of America" books (from Arcadia Publishing) based on this area and probably all over the country. So, they would probably be keen on picking something well written, complied and referenced up about the Schools of Frederick County, VA. Something to think about if I get waaaay too much information. First off, a trip to the Archives. I had to put that off due to a family concern, but I am back in business :) Thanks for your advice and I might ask again in the future for your opinion as the project builds. Take Care....NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Andrew Chrucky

Why did you delete my Andrew Chrucky entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfeen (talk • contribs) 00:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I deleted Talk:Andrew Chrucky, which was an orphaned talk page. The main article was deleted as a bare link to an eternal site. By the way, please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you've created yourself, and please review WP:ACADEMIC for notability criteria for academic figures. Acroterion _(talk) 00:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Acroterion, you can delete this talk now; Chrucky has been deleted. And sorry for the confussion--I was new. -Jfeen

Phipple

why did you delete my article phipple? What did you find wrong with it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4everPhipple (talk • contribs) 00:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Do you really need to ask? "Phipple: A mix between a hippie and a pimple. You can find these rare Phipples inside 2001 year old trees. This spieces can be identified by thier afros and thier habbit to call people by thier last name." Hardly material for an encyclopedia. Acroterion _(talk) 00:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

why did you delete my page New Venetian Empire all my pictures were legitimate because i made them on inkscape Cheekyboyz93 (talk) 16:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion _(talk) 16:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

i dont care i spent a lot of time making that page so please return it as i am a MICRONATION!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheekyboyz93 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a place for you to post hoaxes, fiction, or things you made up one day. Can you provide three articles in major newspapers that cover this place? This is a standard means for determining whether a subject meets notability guidelines.Acroterion _(talk) 16:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

please reinstate my page thank you Cheekyboyz93 (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I proved Gatling (band) was liable to be on Wikipedia due to rule 11 of the qualification for notability. Please un-delete the article, or explain to me in greater detail why it was delted. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by -Frenzy- (talk • contribs) 20:46, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion?

I proved Gatling (band) was liable to be on Wikipedia due to rule 11 of the qualification for notability. Please un-delete the article, or explain to me in greater detail why it was deleted. Thanks! -Frenzy- (talk) 20:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Rotation (music) isn't the same as Richard Syrett liking the song enough to play a part of it from time to time on his non-music-oriented show. It means that it's being played on a national basis with in competition other music for air time in music-oriented programming by a network, not just an individual host. By the way, YouTube isn't usually considered a reliable source (really, the file can come from anywhere and there's no way to check its veracity), although in fact I accept your assertion that Syrett has played the clip. What you need for a source is an actual written source indicating this, from Billboard or an equivalent, giving airplay statistics. By the way, I like what I heard; I'm a sucker for bass riffs. Acroterion _(talk) 02:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Question

Bored and playing around with the many ToolServer apps available, I noticed I am blocked at SimpleWiki. This could be related to my previous (and forgiven) sockpuppetry in 2008, but this ToolServer application says the account is "unattached" (I have a Global account, which is in purpetual migration). What should I do? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ask Simplewiki to unblock? I dunno, I like fooling with toolserver apps as much as the next guy, but lack the background to do much that's useful with them. Acroterion _(talk) 03:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow reply. I just noticed they have me down as "cannot change own talk page", so asking to unblock is out. Do you know if there is a User:Creol here at English Wiki? That is who blocked me on SimpleWiki. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

That user doesn't seem to be active here at present. I assume they have the same unblock-request-via-email there? You can compose a suitably humble request and point out that you've been reasonably good on the other wiki (although they're quite touchy about not being like en-wiki). Acroterion _(talk) 04:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I could....I will try and see where their unblock-email account is. Thanks. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't find an unblock-email account, but I found an admin, User:Barras, available and email him personally (he had his email on his userpage which was convenient). So, we will see what happens. Thanks for your help. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Cheese dancing

Hey, we're really interested in how the new Facebook community pages work. We created the cheese dancing page as a way to track a known term through Facebook and Wikipedia. It is a legitimate Facebook community page as you can see for yourself. Please restore the page. Thanks. Mmorriscs2i (talk) 02:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Please don't use Wikipedia as part of an experiment in social media. All articles must comply with Wikipedia's guiding principles, and cheese dancing, as self-admitted nonsense, isn't appropriate. Acroterion _(talk) 02:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi, why did you delete my post? I am Web Marketing & Social Media Executive at Swissotel The Bsophorus, Istanbul. Please respond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skahraman (talk • contribs) 13:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it was promotional ("this deluxe hotel welcomes you with the magnificent Bosphorus view, meticulous service and luxurious facilities."). Advertising is not permitted on Wikipedia. Furthermore, the subject does not appear to meet Wikipedia's standards for notability of businesses. As Web Marketing & Social Media Executive, you have a conflict of interest and are strongly discouraged from editing on this subject. You may not use Wikipedia to promote a business, particularly one with which you are associated. Acroterion _(talk) 13:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

recreated talk page

Is it possible to block recreated page. Talk:Cayden beyer? It was recreated 4 times in last 3 days. Imperial Monarch (D•R) 20:25, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Nawlinwiki protected while I was away. Acroterion _(talk) 20:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

need help with title of talk page

Hello - I see you're online - I just screwed up a page move with a typo and when I tried to fix it I was able to fix the main page but not the talk page. Was trying to move Political sex scandals of the United States to List of political sex scandals in the United States which worked, but the talk page title has a typo. Could you fix it for me? (Note that it's adding "List of" and changing "of" to "in"). Thanks very much. Tvoz/talk 02:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - that was fast! Tvoz/talk 02:49, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome - I usually screw things like that up and have my own personal history of misspelling page moves. Acroterion _(talk) 02:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

deletion

Excuse me, but i am quite annoyed that you just deleted my page. I understand it notified me that it wasnt up to standard; however while i was reading up on what the error meant you deleted my page before i had a chance to alter it to make it up to standards. Just as i was returning to edit it, it had gone. What can you do to aid this situation now?

I've placed the text in your userspace at User:MrMarshy94/sandbox, where you may develop the article. Please read WP:BAND and WP:BIO for Wikipedia's guidelines concerning biographies of living persons. Please note that unreferenced biographies may be deleted within seven days, and that biographies that do not make a credible assertion of notability according to the guidelines may be deleted at any time. Acroterion _(talk) 17:08, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Humble Request

Could you please take a look at Hudson Castle Group, Inc. to perhaps add a vandalism tag to the fellow who gutted the page? As you think best, of course. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Probably too late, as the IP appears to have shifted to someone with an interest in mixed martial arts, and it's usually pointless to tag two weeks after the fact, even for named accounts. This [1] edit is interesting, immediately before the edits ion question. Acroterion _(talk) 11:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

He undid my removal of his vandalism. We have a revert war Paul, in Saudi (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

A better term would be blanking, not vandalism. Watch out for WP:3RR. I've watchlisted the articles in question and will leave a longer note concerning conflict of interest and NPOV. You might want to see what else is available on the company to provide a more general picture of the company, since it is no longer associated with Lehman. Acroterion _(talk) 15:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

See this [2] - there appears to be some debate concerning the role of Lehman. While this is a blog (and therefore not useful as a reference), it provides a bit more context. Acroterion _(talk) 15:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Another satisfied customer

Why did you delete shwats? I was being serious, it might sound wierd but thats what people said when they first heard dude. I AM VERY UPSET!

Wikipedia isn't for things you made up one day or nonsense. I'm certain you'll understand this once you get over your upset and reflect on the purpose of an encyclopedia. Acroterion _(talk) 18:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Reader's Digest Asia Page

Hey there! Im trying to create an article about Reader's Digest Asia on the most neutral grounds as possible. I understand that the page will not be used for advertising and will be updated accordingly via wikipedia rules. Trying to replicate the Reader's Digest wikipedia page.

Replied on your userpage. Acroterion _(talk) 02:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

4 and 6

Wow! I've just opened up an SPI to check for any sleeper accounts this guy might have, I don;t know if you have any comments. Well done for salting it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Took me a minute to catch on to this guy. Thanks for starting the SPI, I've got to go back to work and won't have the time. Acroterion _(talk) 17:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I did a quick check of users and didn't see any more recent Hardcore* names. Acroterion _(talk) 17:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the check- I've been hovering around the account creation log (which is how I found this nutter) but I wouldn't be surprised if he had more socks or created more, though hopefully the autoblock will get him. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:16, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Russian you are not

you have of the red handed cauught me for communist we are not of that red color anmyore for now we do believe mostly very strongly in jesus christ

I do believe your society of the america of the democracy much to the better OF THE BETTERMENT OF THE RUSSIAN SOCIETY as compared to the non-capitalistic system I think and vey much appreciate all of aid given to Russai many year.

I promise all of to what I say to be factual

I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO LIE

---Karabachov Kabanova. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobe12 (talk • contribs)

Scooter Braun

I disagree with your A7 deletion of Scooter Braun. I heard of him even before he met Justin Bieber.

Ryoung122 00:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The entire content of the article was: "Scooter Braun is Justin Bieber Manger......he found Justin on Youtube , then showed Usher" Your version is superior (but could use some formatting and better referencing), and I question the appropriateness of the court appearance per WP:NOTNEWS. Acroterion _(talk) 01:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Jorrin Tyler page

Hi,

Jorrin Tyler is a 15 year old singer/songwriter from Kansas City, Missouri He has won several awards in Nashville for his songwriting. The page was deleted before it was finished being edited.

"Commercial architecture"

I'm writing about the Hotel Argonne in Lima, Ohio, which is listed as "Early Commercial" in the NRIS. Do you have any idea how I should categorize this building? Would Category:Modernist architecture be appropriate? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 02:56, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

No, not modernist, which would be a lighter-looking (and later) building with ribbon windows and a curtain wall. Commercial is a good term for this style: see Wainwright Building, Monadnock Building, etc. Commercial style has never been formalized that I know of, but these are all examples of the turn-of-the-century look for office buildings. Acroterion _(talk) 03:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Ball light

IMHO it is not a good idea to merge a part of this text into Ball Lightning page. The page describes histories beginning from 1658. Since then above 200 theories and hypothesis were proposed, above 2000 papers and reports were published. It is impossible to present this knowledge in a single page. Less that 10 percent is presented in the page. Any new hypothesis or theory can be presented in the page by a single string in the best case without violation of an accepted structure of the page. For example, there is a similar situation with “atom”. One can find out separate pages entitled Plum pudding model, Rutherford model, Atomic shell model, Bohr model, Liquid drop model where various models of atom are presented. Analogously, various models of Ball Lightning can be presented also.

As for assertion that the page is an original research, that in accordance with the same wikipedia The term original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and stories—not already published by reliable sources. It also refers to any analysis or synthesis by Wikipedians of published material, where the analysis or synthesis advances a position not advanced by any of the sources’’.

The material was published in 12 reliable sources which are peer reviewed International Journals. There are no analysis or synthesis advances a position not advanced by any of the sources. Thus this is not an original research as it is defined in Wikipedia.

Most suitable for deletion is Wikipedia: Deletion policy in accordance with which the following requirement must be satisfied Secondary sources are second-hand accounts, at least one step removed from an event. They rely for their material on primary sources, often making analytic or evaluative claims about them.[3] For example, a review article that analyzes research papers in a field is a secondary source for the research.[4]

Our policy: Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources. Articles may include analytic or evaluative claims only if these have been published by a reliable secondary source.

A review in the Handbook of Solitons: Research, Technology and Applications which was prepared by editors S.P. Lang and S.H. Bedore. New York: Novapublishers. pp. 3–54 is such secondary source. Analysis of 12 papers published in peer reviewed Journals in English in period 2003-2010 is presented by these editors. In accordance with Wikipedia the name "handbook" may sometimes be applied to reference works that are not pocket-sized, but do provide ready reference, as is the case with several engineering handbooks such as Perry's Chemical Engineers' Handbook, Marks Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers, and the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. Handbooks are widely used in the sciences as quick references for various kinds of data.

Thus, formal requirements that Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources are satisfied. A full list of 12 papers published in peer reviewed Journals in English in period 2003-2010 is presented in discussion section of Ball Lightning page. Vladimir Torchigin (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

You should present your arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ball light, since that is where action will be taken. In general, it is not a good idea to use references in an article that you have written to your own work. You have presented a novel theory, and its references should make a substantial case that you are not the theory's sole proponent. Acroterion _(talk) 18:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

nickasaur!

hello, i am contemplating recreating the page previously knows as nickasaur!, but i started to create it when i saw that you have deleted it a while ago. if i could gather reliable sources that proved notability, could i recreate it? Qotsa37 (talk) 17:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Notability would apply to any article: if the subject is notable, there's every reason for inclusion, although the first article gave little indication that it might be the case. I'd suggest starting in you userspace first. Acroterion _(talk) 18:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

your authority to choose whole is life is of relevance..

I saw recently that you deleted a page that I have created about Elizabeth Kitty Hamilton of Penwortham, I dont quite understand why you have deleted this page, but the message as to why it was deleted was that it wasnt of relevance/not a real person, I am writing to inform you that it more than definately is a real person, who is in fact an up and coming tennis star, i quite understand why you think you have the authority to delete a page such as this, please inform me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosiehargreaves22 (talk • contribs)

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 20:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Vera Baker

I simply draw your attention to the cited page, if you are not already aware of it. A very nice and important discussion of a number of issues is going on there. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 04:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

plimsolefag

Why do you keep deleting the Plimsolefag article? it is regarding british street culture

Because the article is an attack page or negative unsourced biography that serves no purpose but to threaten or disparage its subject. There was no encyclopedic content, it was just an attack on people the author does not appear to like. Acroterion _(talk) 23:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

VA or other nrhp good stub drive choice

Hi, i wonder if you'd suggest a Virginia county/city NRHP list, or any other NRHP list where NRHP docs are available on-line, for focus of good nrhp stub drive. I had put National Register of Historic Places listings in New Haven, Connecticut in the To Do box at top right of wt:NRHP, but that is perhaps now well enough done (all articles created, all articles brought up to a certain level including NRHP docs, some further advancing by other editors including User:Staib and User:Polaron continuing). I dunno if this kind of good stub drive will take off in a bigger way to involve more nrhp editors, but i think it is productive to address concerns of many this way. I have the impression you do Virginia articles sometimes, and i'd like to rotate out of CT for now. Regards, --doncram (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

It sounds like a good idea to me, and Virginia has both a wealth of unwritten articles and a good set of sources.

• National Register of Historic Places listings in Richmond, Virginia (184)
• National Register of Historic Places listings in Charlottesville, Virginia (64)
• National Register of Historic Places listings in Henrico County, Virginia (29)
• National Register of Historic Places listings in Isle of Wight County, Virginia (20)
• National Register of Historic Places listings in Norfolk, Virginia (50)
• National Register of Historic Places listings in Petersburg, Virginia (37)

These all figure largely in colonial or Civil War-era history and need some sustained attention. There is ample scope for context and backlinking to those topics as well as the Lee, Washington, Carter, Jefferson and other families. The state nom docs are at [3], and I think they're fairly complete. Acroterion _(talk) 15:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, the Virginia state site seems perfectly well complete for NRHP docs. Maybe not bigger lists, to avoid getting bogged down, like i am bogged down in National Register of Historic Places listings in Albany County, New York, on my own right now. New Haven was doable with 59, many already having articles. I added parenthetical counts of number of NRHPs involved in each, above. Based on counts, and noting these are mostly red-links, would be happy to start with Henrico or Isle of Wight or Petersburg. --doncram (talk) 15:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Virginia has lots of inky-dinky little counties, as well as lots of independent towns, so you can see from the state lists that there are a number of unintimidating counties with a dozen or so sites that are almost wholly redlinked. I'd stick to the Richmond area and the counties along the York, Rappahannock and James rivers as being the richest in old and interesting places with possibilities for backlinking and enrichment of other articles. Acroterion _(talk) 15:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Also presence of some NHLs is possibly a good indicator. Henrico has 2 NHLs, Isle of Wight has 1 NHL, Petersburg has 1 NHL, so about the same. Henrico seems to be around Richmond, and has one more NHL, so i'd be happy with that. I shouldn't say List of RHPs in New Haven is done yet, by the way, as i meant also to add at least a short description for each one in the list-article. Would you help some on Henrico, say, if I added that to the posted To Do list?  :) --doncram (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Henrico (pronounced hen-rye-co) is directly associated with Richmond. I'd be glad to work on it. Acroterion _(talk) 16:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI, i've made some progress: have started all stubs, have added references/links for all NRHP docs available i think. Docs for 23 of 29 sites are available directly in Henrico county VA docs webpage; one more doc for the Kanawha Canal one i found in the Richmond VA docs webpage. I will plug along towards adding enough description in each article that i have something to summarize in the List of RHPs in Henrico list-article for each one. Any/all of the articles could use more attention. Perhaps you might browse and see what interests you? If it might get you in the mood, play a Henrico County TV program about the county's NRHP-listed architecture, listed here. I've been playing the episode on the Mankin Mansion and the Druin-Horner House in one window, while doing other editing. Haven't come across such online films about historic places before. It works great! :) Cheers, --doncram (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a look - thanks for starting. Acroterion _(talk) 16:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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Chris Alves and Gary Haskins

The people in the article that you recently deleted are real titled "Chris Alves and Gary Haskins." As those people are myself and my friend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dewamonkey (talk • contribs) 00:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

We don't doubt their reality. What we doubt is their notability. Acroterion _(talk) 00:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Request recreation of Zalgo

I have recently come across this obscure Internet meme and wished to see how complete the Wikipedia article on it was, only to find that the article had been deleted, apparently for lack of any content. I believe that three sources are the generally accepted minimum for creating an article, yes? I have information enough to make it a viable article, though I haven't the knowledge of Wikipedia's categories to properly include it in the appropriate ones.

If you could leave a message for me on my Talk page I would appreciate it immensely.

FrankenSteinDr (talk) 02:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd suggest that you write it up in your userspace at User:FrankenSteinDr/sandbox. The deleted versions were an attempt to promote the meme and were wholly unencyclopedic. I am reluctant to remove the create-protection (which was placed by SoWhy) without seeing a reasonable draft. There was also some obnoxious markup text associated with the article. Acroterion _(talk) 02:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I have attempted to create a working draft, though this is my first time editing on Wikipedia (I have edited on wiki.lspace.org before under the name of Doctor Whiteface, but have never edited on a wiki using Wikipedia formatting for pictures and references) and it will be a while before I am familiar enough with the basics of editing pictures and references to include those in the draft. Until such a time as that may occur, the draft will have to stay as is. The sites that I pulled my information from are:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zalgo

I also used the Urbandictionary.com and Encyclopediadramatica.com articles on Zalgo, though those were of precious little use and I cannot access them from the computer I am currently using as it is at a public library and has IRC blocks on both of those sites.

That aside, is the current content (aside from lack of references) acceptable? FrankenSteinDr (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

What you've got looks pretty good. References need to be from reliable sources, which excludes UD, ED, and Wikipedia. Are there any articles in major publications concerning the meme? Acroterion _(talk) 23:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Its categorization as an Internet meme pretty much automatically excludes major magazines, newspapers, and other publications as possible references, but I think I can reference the original Zalgo-edited comics on forums.SomethingAwful.com, and I can probably manage to find a few others, though the bulk of the information is still observational (since every Zalgo-based comic available has the common features of black alien-like eyes and multiple teeth rings) or from http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/zalgo —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankenSteinDr (talk • contribs) 00:17, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, sourcing is essential, so your options are narrow. Keep working, I think that there's a viable article if you can satisfy WP:RS. Acroterion _(talk) 16:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Saved me there.

I was at the agency drunk when I wrote that article thanks for deleting that classified info for me thanks. Oh yea and don't tell anyone what I wrote, or else... —Preceding unsigned comment added by CIA secret unit (talk • contribs) 02:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Next time use the cone of silence. Acroterion _(talk) 03:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

we are defiance (band)

We are Defiance myspace.com/wearedefiance signed to Tragic Hero records http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1674172

fronted and started by Brian Calzini formerly of paddock park (eulogy records) http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1056812 —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianCalzini (talk • contribs) 21:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you show that the band meets the guidelines outlined in WP:BAND? Acroterion _(talk) 21:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Joshua frakes

I accidentally recreated it due to me trying to nominate for G1. Sorry. Andewz111 (talk · contribs) (typo intended) 23:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw that, it happens when the script and the wiki lag. No worries. Acroterion _(talk) 23:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Got one more for ya

Vandalizing the SPI page with the relevant cases awaiting checkuser. Thanks, Tommy2010 17:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Blocked the one you linked, but I don't see anything associated with the SPI page. Acroterion _(talk) 17:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Found him, already blocked after his personal greeting here. It's just /b/, no particular point in doing anything other than blocking on sight. Acroterion _(talk) 17:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, got it. Thanks again. Tommy2010 17:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

ARE YOU DELETING STUFF ON MY WELCOMES? some one deleted my Article wizard —Preceding unsigned comment added by Light for JC (talk • contribs) 17:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, I didn't delete the linked article, although I did just delete an essay you inappropriately placed in article space. Might I suggest that you slow down, learn about this place, learn to sign your name and not shout in all caps at people? Acroterion _(talk) 19:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Reynolds Metals Company International Headquarters

Thanks for this one Victuallers (talk) 12:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Crowdrise

hey why did you not give me a chance to turn the article Crowdrise into an encyclopedic one? aren't there better ways to obstruct contribution? i was adding references and everything. and as much as you dislike copypaste, the passages i used are quotes from notable contributors to the project as well as self-descriptions that were declared as such! what's your big problem? i'd prefer a realtime conversation/answer, i.e. on skype (suntzu13) Nonchablunt (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

The article didn't indicate how the site was notable, and the prose was promotional in nature. I'd strongly suggest that you create the article in User:Nonchablunt/sandbox and develop it there. Note that using the website itself as a reference is not useful for establishing independent notability. The HuffPo article is a start, but it would be better to find a couple of dead-tree references. It's never a good idea to copy/plaste as you did - it violates copyright, fatal in itself, and it leaves the article open to immediate deletion as promotion. I think the article has potential, but in its present, largely self-referential state it has much work remaining to establish reliable sourcing.

I prefer to keep discussions of this sort on the wiki for all to see, so I'll decline your offer to discuss via Skype. Acroterion _(talk) 18:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Yor12345

Am I confused (that's likely!)? I don't see where Yor12345 has edited Frank Sinatra. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:33, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

You aren't confused - I warned the wrong guy. Fixed now, and changed to the article they are actually vandalizing. Thanks for spotting that. Acroterion _(talk) 00:39, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Whew, I was worried about my reading skills.  :) Everard Proudfoot (talk) 05:16, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

[Operation Red Dragon]

If you unscrew up the in-line references in this article, I promise to learn how to do it myself. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 12:19, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll have a go at it later today - I have a proposal to finish in Real Life. Acroterion _(talk) 12:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

It's now at Operation Red Dragon (civil defense exercise), since the Congo Crisis action is much more likely to be a search target for Operation Red Dragon. Acroterion _(talk) 14:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ouvrage Vélosnes

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Aliencoders

Hi i am the owner of aliencoders.com and this site is for educational purpose with any profit motive. Its aim is to provide solution to programmers thats it. What i should write there and what i should remove form there let me know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjeevkrjaiswal (talk • contribs) 11:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 11:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net --> mht.maryland.gov

Please see User talk:Juliancolton. He's taking care of the conversion. What a wonderful fellow!--Pubdog (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Mummy Cave

Curious, why remove the DYK-and-GA category? Nyttend (talk) 02:30, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I was trying to figure out how the category (which I didn't know existed) worked, since it the article didn't appear in the category automagically before I fooled with it. I'm not sufficiently competent to figure it out, and not sufficiently motivated to pursue it. I put it in to see if it would work, then self-reverted.Acroterion _(talk) 03:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

AVA Productions

I made this page for a class, I will delete when I get the grade please stop deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burogus (talk • contribs) 01:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Wikipedia isn't a free webhost for class assignments. Acroterion _(talk) 01:43, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Italianate or Stick-Eastlake?

Thanks for the reply at the Reference Desk; I'd failed to consider the possibility that there might be some elements of both styles. Nyttend (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

It happens a lot. I live in a house I describe as Prairie-Colonial, because it has the massing and outline of a very early Wright prairie house, but its details are Colonial Revival. Acroterion _(talk) 00:11, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Forthlock

Hi you deleted my page "Forthlock" I Still dont know how wikipedia works properly and im figuring it out. Its a page for my band i am the drummer and i do have permission to create the page. Can you please re enable the page and give me advice on how to prevent it from being deleted by other admins —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnusnieuwoudt (talk • contribs) 19:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on you talk page, Acroterion _(talk) 19:25, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		In recognition of Acroterion's continued effort, including in an administrative capacity, to proactively address vandalism and trolling that occurs on Wikipedia. This is your 10th anti-vandalism barnstar within 3 years; keep it up! Awarded by Ncmvocalist (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Technically the 11th, but I'm not counting the Wikipedian of the day seeing that was for a specific day. ;) Ncmvocalist (talk) 20:34, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Trolling AN/I seems like a profitless venture, but apparently mileage varies. Acroterion _(talk) 21:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ouvrage Fermont

Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 12:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet of Madokhn

Hi, you may want to check out the contributions of User:Overtkill, who even states on his userpage that he is Madokhn. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm keeping an eye on them - they're being more or less good. Acroterion _(talk) 03:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Style help again, please?

Could you identify the architectural style of St. Mary's Church in Philothea, Ohio? I can't find any sources for its style, so I'll not put this into an article; however, I could use a style identification for categorisation purposes on Commons. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 02:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Romanesque Revival. Round window heads, slightly chunky masonry. Acroterion _(talk) 02:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

See also Rundbogenstil. Acroterion _(talk) 02:51, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks; maybe I'll learn some day. The thing about the eyebrows in the Rundbogenstil article I find quite interesting; they're quite common in the vernacular architecture (especially domestic) of the heavily German region around this church. Nyttend (talk) 15:39, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Ashley Undercuffler

I recently created a page for Ashley Undercuffler and it was deleted. However I would like to know how to create a page for her. MY original message was as follows:

I have worked with Ashley on several film projects within the last year as her director and I truly believe that she is the next big thing in the filming industry. I would like the honor of writing the beginning of her biography. If there is more I have to do to continue writing it without receiving a deletion tag, please let me know. Thank you. -Brian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fantasy561 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

IAs I mentioned on your talkpage, you must indicate that the person is notable according to the guidelines stated in WP:BIO - being "up and coming", "the next big thing" or some similar subjective and promotional term is not sufficient. The bio must be sourced (unsourced or poorly sourced biographies are deleted after seven days), and three non-trivial references in independent media, preferably of national standing, are usually sufficient. Acroterion _(talk) 03:37, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

MrElliotB

MrElliotB is a youtube channel. http://youtube.com/MrElliotB He is soon to be legendary, his wiki needs filling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.169.204 (talk) 02:19, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Please get back to us when his legendary status is confirmed by multiple reliable sources in major third-party media. Acroterion _(talk) 02:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Henry L. Blatner, architect

Hi, i wonder if you have any architectural references to Henry L. Blatner, whose Modern Movement-style Clarksville Elementary School (Clarksville, New York) seems kinda interesting. The NRHP listing document doesn't have a whole bio about him, as they often do for single listings about an architect. I would be very glad if you'd like to contribute to either of those articles and/or take it towards DYK if that seems warranted. Perhaps something like "Did you know that Harry Blatner's rural, 1949 Clarksville Elementary School presaged many green design principles such as bilateral lighting now in vogue?" I'll mention it to WikiProject Capital District people at wt:capdis too. --doncram (talk) 16:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of him, but he appears to have worked in the Albany area and worked on the Empire State Plaza with Wallace K. Harrison [4], which is significant. He also worked at the Skidmore School [5] and is mentioned here [6]. I'd say he's certainly a significant upstate NY architect. I'm about to head out for the rest of the day, but I'll have a go at them. I doubt he's still living, or else is long-retired. Acroterion _(talk) 16:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Great, glad that you can. I added a bit more. Funny about the Skidmore pink building dorm, at 32 Union. It's regarded as a modern intrusion in Union Avenue Historic District. Did you know that... Capital District architect Henry L. Blatner is both liked and hated by historic preservationists?" --doncram (talk) 02:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I've observed that buildings from 20 to 40 years old tend to be reviled, and if they last longer than that, some affection for them begins to take shape. Right now everybody's sick of the 1970s and 80s brown-brick-and-bronze windows style. Its time will come. Things built in the 50s are now regarded as cool - not so 20 years ago. Acroterion _(talk) 02:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I've never encountered the term "bilateral lighting", and I design schools for a living. The description is interesting - many similar concepts are being explored in green building design, but don't have to go to such lengths nowadays because glazing technology has improved dramatically, and it's now standard practice to model natural and artificial light levels. In the Bad Old Days (see above) of the 60s, 70s and 80s, windows were avoided as distractions - after all, artificial lighting was cheap and uniform. I've put a lot of windows into formerly windowless schools from that era, since they're old enough to need renovation, and it cheers everybody up, every time. Older schools with lots of windows have improved as well, since new insulating and solar-control glass remove a lot of the disadvantages of large expanses of glazing in terms of comfort and energy consumption.

Back to "bilateral lighting." I'm not sure the term is notable, especially if it's confined to Blatner. It's worth a mention in his bio, though, and maybe a redirect there. Acroterion _(talk) 03:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Batterie de Bouviers

Moved to User:Acroterion/Batterie de Bouviers. Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 20:02, 31 May 2010 (UTC).

(from Mediawiki talk:) Rich Farmbrough, 20:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC).

Thanks, I didn't realize I'd left that there when importing. It should have gone to my userspace - well-spotted. Acroterion _(talk) 20:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Username issue?

Is Lovemeyousexyhunkofaman (talk · contribs) an inappropriate username? S/he has edited only twice; both of these are vandalism. Nyttend (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

In isolation, I wouldn't block on that username. Coupled with their first edit, they are up to no good - trying to attack a teacher. Blocked now as a vandalism-only account. Acroterion _(talk) 03:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the help. I'd assumed that it was a vandalism-only account, since my encounter with it was vandalism to a page on my watchlist, but I don't trust my judgement enough to levy indef blocks by myself. Nyttend (talk) 03:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Your instinct was fine. I'm reluctant to block on username alone unless it's quite obvious, but I have no problem with blocking on username + confirming behavior. Acroterion _(talk) 03:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Del cat

Hi: Could you do me a favor and delete Category:Properties of religious function on the National Register of Historic Places in Arizona? I created it without realizing Category:Buildings of religious function on the National Register of Historic Places in Arizona already existed. Thanks in advance --Pubdog (talk) 10:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Done. Acroterion _(talk) 11:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

User:StopAbuseOfMothers

Is still disputing his/her block, not sure if you knew or if you were watching the page or not but just thought I'd let you know. Cheers, Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 18:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and I believe we're being trolled. They went from writing one of the purest attack articles I've ever seen, requiring oversight, to a bunch of kids in class with a project. However, I will not object if someone unblocks, provided they're willing to watch them very closely. I have yet to see that the editor understands why they were blocked or the seriousness of the initial attack article. Acroterion _(talk) 19:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

stop

PLEASE STOP TRYING TO DELETE MY PAGE!!!! STOP STOP STOP! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainamtrakcsx (talk • contribs) 23:16, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Xtreme Graphic Design

Dear User

I recently posted an article that you deleted. This article was about a business, and was not complete. Please let me know why this article was deleted, and what I can do to improve it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdejean (talk • contribs) 18:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The article made no indication that it met the notability guide lines for inclusion. Please refer to WP:CORP for the notability standards for companies and organizations. You may wish to develop the article in a sandbox in your userspace, but please be aware that it will need to meet the guidelines if it is moved into article space. Acroterion _(talk) 18:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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why deleted?

Hi - trying to figure out why my article was deleted. I tried really hard to follow all the guidelines - please help me understand what went wrong - thanks! Phylliskhare (talk) 20:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 20:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Long term vandal

I just blocked 203.33.181.135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for three months as a result of vandalizing after final warning. I realize from previous discussion that block lengths should be escalated, but the previous block was one year. I feel more input is required before this step is taken due to the downsides of lengthy IP blocks. However, I am unsure as to where this discussion should take place. The subject seems a bit bland for AN/I, but I have no objection to posting there if need be. Any thoughts you have on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks Tiderolls 01:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

It's pretty much a matter of discretion and judgment of the IP's history. Schoolblocks are routinely done for long terms of up to a year, particularly when there is no evidence of productive edits. In this case it's a school in New South Wales, and honestly, I've seen relatively few productive edits from school IPs. I'm not one who's down on IPs in general - in fact I've seen quite a lot of good from IPs, just not from most schools, and you can tag the talk page exactly as you've done to give notice to productive users on how to log in to an account. I frequently time blocks to get through the current school year, but there's a long time to go in Australia. If they pop back up in three months, they can be blocked for six months, which will close out the term. Acroterion _(talk) 02:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

It totally escaped me that school would be in session in the southern hemisphere. I'll leave the block as for the time being. If another admin decides that the block needs to be extended, they will have my full support. As always, you have been most helpful. Thanks for putting up with my n00b-ish questions. See ya 'round Tiderolls 02:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

There are no noobish questions. I've never done a rangeblock, for what it's worth. You'll see lots of Australian and NZ schools IPs at AIV for the next three months. Vandalism overall usually falls off in the summer, since many potentially troublesome editors have no cause to go looking for research material and think "Hey, poop will look funny in this article on Amelia Earhart!" Acroterion _(talk) 02:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

deleted article

What was wrong with my "dan cowan" page? could you send me what is said on it so i can examing what was wrong with it and alter anything that needed editing please Thanks Dancowan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancowan (talk • contribs) 18:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

It was a borderline attack page. Since you wrote it, I imagine you already know what it contained, so I will not provide you with a copy. Acroterion _(talk) 18:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Removing threads

It'd be okay if you were just reverting the anon (we get trolls on the page a lot), but don't remove good faith efforts of discussion, please. Sceptre ^(talk) 20:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Our edits crossed in the mail: I undid my revert. It was not my intention to remove your comment. Acroterion _(talk) 20:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah. No harm done, then :) Sceptre ^(talk) 20:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

The Glitz

Hate it when people delete a page while I'm tagging it for CSD... Mr. R00t ^{Leave me a Message} 21:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

There are plenty to go around. A lot of bands got together last week. Acroterion _(talk) 21:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Barack Obama

Hi. You recently blocked an editor using an IP account for actions on Talk:Barack Obama - note that same individual is now editing the page from another couple of accounts. Cheers, ClovisPt (talk) 01:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they seem to have settled down and others with more patience than I possess this evening are engaging the IP. Since it's an IP hopper on a mission, the effective strategy is to protect the page, which I'm not willing to do under the present circumstances. Acroterion _(talk) 01:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Sounds completely reasonable. Cheers, ClovisPt (talk) 02:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I just closed the thread and came here to ask that you do exactly that, protect the talk page. Only because the talk page is being used for reasons other than intended, and I think since the thread is now closed and collapsed, the anon editor will further disrupt the page. There is no reason to allow an anon to threaten and wreak havoc on a talk page because they can hop IP numbers. In any case, thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 03:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Pre-emptive protection of that kind is frowned upon - the IP hasn't edited for two hours. If they do return and disrupt, WP:RFPP is the place to go, or AN/I. I'm about to sign off for the evening, and would not want to protect and run (or sleep, in this case). Acroterion _(talk) 03:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Completely understandable. I'm about to sign off and hit the hay myself. Thanks again. Dave Dial (talk) 03:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Now an administrator wants to play games? Fine. Explain this, Mr. Admin -

1) How can you claim "disruptive editing" on my part when it's other editors consistently deleting posts without even addressing the issues at hand?

2) A disruptive editor is an editor who: Is tendentious: continues editing an article or group of articles in pursuit of a certain point for an extended time despite opposition from one or more other editors. Tendentious editing does not consist only of adding material; some tendentious editors engage in disruptive deletions as well. My VERIFIABLE and SOURCED info was not even CONSIDERED, just immediately deleted.

3) You follow NONE of the steps as addressed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing

4) Who in God's green earth cites SNOPES as a reputable source of information? An entertainment website run by a married couple?? Funny, I never saw them listed in Britannica. Furthermore, the snopes page doesn't even ADDRESS what I have posted here.

5) The information I've added to the talk page were words WRITTEN BY OBAMA IN HIS OWN BOOK. How you can treat that as irrelevant or unfactual is beyond me.

6) Then, when a pertinent discussion DOES actually begin to improve the article, you CLOSE IT.

This is downright pathetic. You and these other Obama drones are intentionally not acknowledging verifiable truth SPOKEN BY THE MAN HIMSELF and only allowing into the article what you deem "appropriate". What kind of encyclopedia is this? Unless you're going to completely lock out this page, or ban all the IP's of an entire ISP that has millions of users, I'm going to keep coming back. I will not stop until a valid and cited reason is conveyed as to why this information should not be in the article - and I stated that if this COULD be conveyed I would concede. You can claim I'm disruptive all you want, yet I appear to be the only one actually trying to utilize what this page is for - IMPROVING THE ARTICLE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.23.137.210 (talk) 07:28, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll answer you politely, despite your tone :

• Declaring a topic to be all "lies" is a symptom of an editor on a mission, who is unlikely to be able to discuss the issue calmly. The same sentiment, addressed in a polite, unconfrontational manner is not going to get the same reception. Your hyperbolic claim of "lies" did not respect community norms for discussion. "I will not stop" indicates that you have every intention of ignoring valid counterarguments until you have your way and no other, which is disruption.
• You assume that everybody who disagrees with you is a "leftist" or and "Obama drone." Not only is the tone of your accusation disrespectful of other editors, it is patently wrong. There are a wide range of opinions on Wikipedia, and a large number of non-Americans who have no stake in the issue. This is not USpedia. "Leftist", of course, depends on where you stand. I spent quite a bit of time a couple of years ago dealing with fired-up Editors on a Mission who approached George Bush and Sarah Palin as you are approaching Obama, and was informed in outraged tones that I was a Republican shill. Much of the Obama article was hashed out at that time, in an atmosphere of intense scrutiny, with the same material available.
• You received a number of responses that, in general, were sympathetic to your point. Your response is the diatribe above?
• I withdrew from the matter because some editors were politely discussing the issue with you, and it seemed to be going reasonably well, making any further action on my part counterproductive. If you are not willing to respond to such overtures with grace, threatening instead to edit-war, disrupt Wikipedia, abuse multiple IPs and so on, well, you've discredited yourself.
• I see no obvious reason why the issue can't be mentioned in the article, to a degree that is appropriate to the point and its broader coverage: in other words, acknowledged and referenced to the degree that the matter is discussed in secondary sources. You may wish to read WP:UNDUE. This seems like it is a big issue for you, but that doesn't mean that the opinion is widely shared. Can you cite specific discussions in major media over this?
• I blocked you solely because you were threatening to disrupt Wikipedia. No other reason. Although you evaded the block, you were being engaged by other editors and seemed to be responding, so I declined to take any further action, as documented in the thread above, believing that blocking might not be useful or productive. The present set of accusations implies that my reconsidered approach may have been wrong; are you trying to prove that I was correct in blocking you? You are welcome to prove, by positive behavior, that my block was wrong: I'll take no offense.
• Another editor, a non-administrator, closed the thread.
• You will be unsurprised to hear that the article and talkpage get a lot of trolling from people with far less cogent points. As such, patience is limited. To land on the subject with both feet, as you did, is not a good approach.
• If you want a change, don't rant at other editors. Polite, reasoned discussion with reference to published secondary sources (not solely two lines from Obama's books) works. Shouting, accusations and "i won't stop until I get my way" will not. Acroterion _(talk) 12:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of wooga

Hi, you just deleted the article about "wooga". I don't understand why. What was the problem? I wrote that it was a company. And I wrote that it's the biggest social games developer in Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Startoz (talk • contribs) 15:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I just restored it, minus the huge logo. The article does have some problems - apart from the basic assertion, there's no significant independent sourcing to back up the claim. Rather than a ranking, you need to rely on independent mention in major third-party media, and not so much on the subject's own website. Please review WP:CORP for guidelines on inclusion for corporations and organizations. I restored it solely on the basis of the assertion that it was the largest of its kind in Europe. That may not mean that it, in fact meets the inclusion guidelines, if it turns out to be a small operation. Acroterion _(talk) 15:12, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I added a few mentions from TechCrunch and AppData. Is that enough? (Startoz). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Startoz (talk • contribs) 15:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

You're on the right track. Further expansion would be nice. I'm going to formally decline the speedy deletion nomination. Acroterion _(talk) 15:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Architect:

Can you help me figure out the architectural style of this building? I'm stumped. I don't know if it's Gothic Revival, Tudor Revival, Spanish Colonial Revival, Church Revival, etc. Gracias. APK whisper in my ear 22:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd punt and call it Eclectic Revival. It's got Gothic, Romanesque and Moorish things going on. Looks like the architect chose from columns A through G on the menu. Acroterion _(talk) 22:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the gargoyles are what throw me off. APK whisper in my ear 22:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

The most striking elements are the balconies, which look Moorish to me. The Fox Theatre (Atlanta, Georgia) isn't too different, just more so. Acroterion _(talk) 23:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Oriental Theatre (Portland)

How about "Italian Renaissance", as used to describe Oriental Theatre in Portland, Oregon? --doncram (talk) 02:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The pedimented windows on either side of the first (upper) floor are dentiled and the right inclination for Italian Renaissance - I guess that's what they're hanging their hat on, but it's a mighty slender connection. It'd say it's snagged a few classical details and glued them into something sort of Central Asian, so Renaissance-influenced Eclectic. Again with the little bitty arcades at the top, which aren't seen anywhere but Gothic and Moorish (which is really a sort of Spanish Gothic). At some point you have to avoid classifying them with much precision, the architects were trying stuff out to see what would happen. Acroterion _(talk) 02:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

It occurred to me this morning that it resembles something you might see in Venice, where an essentially Gothic palazzo might have a few Renaissance details troweled on. Acroterion _(talk) 12:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Troy High School (Texas)

I am working to complete articles on all Texas Public High Schools and I noticed that a previous Troy High School article had been deleted and I was wondering why it had been. I would like to recreate an article as every other high school in Bell County, Texas has been done. Your help is much appreciated! Indyjrg1762 (talk) 03:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

It amounted to an attack page. There is certainly no prejudice against creation of an appropriate page on the topic, as you are doing. Go for it - happy editing! Acroterion _(talk) 03:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Norman Bethune Sanson

Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 00:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jasper Park Information Centre

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bar U Ranch

Hello! Your submission of Bar U Ranch at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Please help me control my temper

I can't stand it: talk page. --Orlady (talk) 00:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

You've brought the subject up and discussed it in sufficient detail. If nothing happens to fix the issues in a day or so, I'll have a go at it. Acroterion _(talk) 00:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviews

Yeah I'll start looking at the B-template criteria. I figured I could go back and catch those on a second pass once I killed the unassessed backlog. But now that I am thinking about it: it'd be pretty easy to miss what I just reviewed. Best regards, LeonidasSpartan (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bar U Ranch

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

My page

Why did u delete it?? I was working on it? I mean, most of the stuff on wikipedia isn't even true, so why do you have a problem with it? I just wanna make a page for my band on here, so people can look it up and we can known better, cause we already are trying to get it recognized on Facebook and Myspace, but noooo, you guys have to delete it for absolutely no reason, so I guess I won't use wikipedia...

Drugaddiction117 (talk) 18:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Drugaddiction117Drugaddiction117 (talk) 18:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it did not indicate compliance with WP:BAND, the notability criteria for musical acts. I'd guess at least two dozen bands are deleted a day for this reason. Wikipedia isn't a place to create notability; it is where notability is documented. Acroterion _(talk) 18:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

First Oil Well in Western Canada

Yeah - after I added it I saw the date of the monument listed at the bottom of the page. Sorry about that; I have a tendency to jump the gun, in case you haven't noticed. :-)

By the way, excellent work with the National Historic Sites of Canada. I've seen a number of your pages crop up as I've been on newpage patrol over the past few days, and am happy to see such good work being done on the subject. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, it beats working. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

okay sorry i apologise

Dear sir, i now realise that i was wrong to make such unconstructive edits, and i will behave in the future. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.80.208 (talk) 19:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

humaloid page

excuse me but i was trying to read this page of humaloids but it seems to me that it has been deleted why is it gone i was trying to find this infomation for along time because my friends told me about it.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Humaloidsforlife (talk • contribs) 02:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Apart from not making much sense, it appeared to concern a musical act that did not indicate that it met Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion. Acroterion _(talk) 02:44, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Ronnie O'Brien Rice

What would constitute a an valid article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronnric (talk • contribs) 04:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The subject must meet the guidelines for biographies: see WP:BIO for the requirements. Self-sourced material is not acceptable for biographies of living persons. Also, writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged. Acroterion _(talk) 04:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

page

Why would you delete someone's page —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeathVivaSpideyHarryPercy10 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Because it was an inappropriate use of your user space. You may not use your user page to keep lists of enemies on Wikipedia. Acroterion _(talk) 18:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Ligatt

Hello, just wondering why you deleted the page entitled Ligatt due to "G3:Vandalism"? Thank you. Heinzarelli (talk) 00:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for confirming my impression that that page was intended as an attack. I've another administrator has deleted the Ligatt security page as non-notable, but be warned that your use of Wikipedia as a base for attacks is unacceptable. Logging out to make comments supporting your position is also unacceptable [7]. Acroterion _(talk) 00:42, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry if it seems like attacking, but that is my rightful information that has been posted, I do not like my information to be placed online. Bravo31 (talk) 01:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes I do claim that, it may have been so that it is because of my school, people have taken my information and have placed it online, and today I need my information, but the plagiarism tests (I always test my essays on plagiarisms) have referred me to here, so I am asking if that information could please be removed. Bravo31 (talk) 01:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

About a year ago. And yes I do remember having used these sources for my research paper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravo31 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Well then I do request that part to be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravo31 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Well on second thoughts, I will just paraphrase everything. You may leave that last part. Bravo31 (talk) 01:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravo31 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Delete of Jay Boy and page creator's conduct

Thanks for deleting said article. As a user fairly new to removing vandalism, this is the first time I have encountered a user (here, User:Curtscottowen) who repeatedly removes Speedy Delete tags. When this happens, what is the appropriate next step? I reported the User to WP:AIV, although soon after/at the same time is when you deleted the page. Should I have taken a different course of action? Should I keep adding the tag/undoing the removals until hopefully and admin notices and takes action? Qwyrxian (talk) 12:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The user has recreated the page under a slightly different name. Suggestions? Qwyrxian (talk) 12:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I see this was taken care of in my absence - in general, just tag, re-tag, and keep an eye out for removals. It's not vandalism, or particularly harmful to the encyclopedia to write these kinds of articles, but they inevitably get deleted, and it may take several contacts to make the point that the Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit doesn't necessarily allow all edits or topics to remain. I try to leave a personal note if someone doesn't get the point (nobody apparently bothers to read the informative templated message), which Amalthea has done. Acroterion _(talk) 15:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Qwyrxian (talk) 21:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Nationwide Diesel Technologies

The Bad Idea Machine about to go into action

I'd like to contest the deletion of Nationwide Diesel Technologies as a matter of principle. CSD criteria A7 does not apply to schools, and consensus has established that "schools" include trade schools. I won't take this contest further, even if you choose to deny it, because the article doesn't deserve to survive, but deleting for an improper reason would seem to me to come pretty close to biting the page's newbie creator. Wikilawyerishly, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 16:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC) Never mind, you got there first. Thanks, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 16:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Just as a matter of wikilawyerish notice, it's described as a business, so A7 would apply, but I felt that it would be better served at AfD anyway. No problems, Acroterion _(talk) 17:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Now it looks like we may have puppetry going on Special:Contributions/Jejegirl12. My current personal sentiment: No good deed ever goes unpunished. — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 17:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC) PS: Should I report it at WP:SPI, or will you look into it? — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll have a look-see: I'm at work and subject to distraction by real-world tasks, but will leave appropriate notices as needed. Acroterion _(talk) 18:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

We seem to have a new, naive editor who's (inadvertently, I believe) pushing all the buttons on the How to Get It Wrong on Wikipedia Machine. Patience is indicated; the deletion process is nothing if not arcane, as are the notability requirements, and I won't even go into sockpuppetry. I'd continue as you have done, being relentlessly nice. Acroterion _(talk) 18:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll bow to your judgment on the puppet question; that's the reason I brought it to you rather than taking it right to SPI. Just FYI, I've posed the school/not school question at Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Trade_schools_redux. Not trying to second–guess you, I just want to do the right thing and what you and the original speedy nom'er say seem to contradict what I've read, so I hope you don't mind. — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly either way on the school vs. business distinction - it's not a sharp line. I personally do not buy the all-schools-are-notable policy, but long ago learned that it was a waste of time to argue. Acroterion _(talk) 18:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you still feel the same way after my last note, above , but thank you very much for the "relentlessly nice" remark, by the way. I do try to be, and I'm glad someone noticed. Thanks again, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Autoreview, Reviewer

Thanks for adding me to this, but I'm not sure exactly what it means. I'll review carefully though. BTW...awesome user page! Semper fi FieldMarine (talk) 03:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that your new article showed up as unpatrolled on Special:Newpages, and I knew that you qualified for Autoreviewer, which automatically marks your new articles as patrolled, saving time for newpage patrollers. The Reviewer permission deals with the current trial of Flagged Revisions as applied here on enwiki, where trusted users can vet IP and unconfirmed users' contributions before they become visible to the outside world. You don't have to do anything in particular with Autoreviewer, and anything you do with Reviewer is up to you. Thanks for the compliment on the userpage - I found that picture last week in some scanned negatives from 2000. Acroterion _(talk) 03:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Question for Ya

Last night (well, early this morning) I added the National Register of Historic Places listings in Frederick County, Virginia page to the Template:Frederick County, Virginia template. I was wondering, should we do that on all county templates to get more eyeballs on the historical place listings and get some more of those articles made? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a nice idea that highlights notable properties, and there are eleventy bazillion NRHP articles waiting to be written in Virginia, all with sourcing already at hand. I say go for it, although I'm sure some might take it as a precedent to add military facilities, radio stations, train stations and such. Acroterion _(talk) 03:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Good point....might think that one out. Cause we don't want the county templates getting clogged up with unnecessary links. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The argument in favor is that it highlights historic properties that are consistently found in every county in Virginia, as opposed to the other items I mentioned. You might want to post the same question to Nyttend, who may have an opinion to offer. Acroterion _(talk) 03:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Okie Dokie....will do :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I messaged Nyttend on his talk, but he appears to be offline, so I will let you know what is said tomorrow. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 03:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Nyttend came back online and messaged me back, he "strongly opposed" the idea, but gave me another option, something along the lines of {{Dakota County, Minnesota topics}}. I will tinker around with that, see what you and Nyttend think and might put it into action. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I defer to Nyttend in matters of this kind. Acroterion _(talk) 13:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Young writers society

Hi Acroterion, I'm the administrator of the Young Writers Society and unfortunately a group of users from the site created a Wiki page for the purposes of God knows what; all it achieved was wasting your and anyone else's time. Is it possible you could provide me with the text of the deleted page? Thank you, and I appreciate you taking the page down so quickly. -- Nate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nlcaldwell (talk • contribs) 05:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Is it also possible I could also obtain the text of the deleted page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Timmy_Knightley ? It involves the same group of users, and Knightley is a member of the site. I apologize for the hassle! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nlcaldwell (talk • contribs) 06:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

The deleted content did not amount to much, and involved no heinous offenses. If you enable your email, or email me, I will provide the deleted text, as no confidences or personal information are involved. Acroterion _(talk) 12:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

PPG Related Info

Hi!

So sorry, I read through the guidelines and would like to make another attempt at creating pages for the following brands in relation to the already created PPG Industries page. That page points out 3 specific brands, PPG Porter Paint, PPG Pittsburgh Paint and Olympic Paint/Stain. I was hoping to somehow link blurbs providing more information on those 3 points. Is there a way to do that without violating the regulations of Wikipedia?

Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Mandyppg (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)Mandy

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 16:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

PPG Porter

Hi, Thanks for the info on best practices for creating pages. I'll use your revised edition for the other 2 pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandyppg (talk • contribs) 19:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Brainshocker delete

Why do you have delete this page?? --Biancardi (talk) 13:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the article because it was a direct copy from an external website without a compatible copyright notice, and because the band doesn't meet the notability requirements of WP:BAND. Acroterion _(talk) 14:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Kansas Statehouse

When you deleted Kansas Statehouse, you also deleted about 2 hours' worth of additional research, editing, etc. Reliable sources for the official name would be the giant limestone "Kansas Statehouse" out front.

I'd like to move the "Kansas State Capitol" page as you requested... but is there any way to get back the additional information on the "Kansas Statehouse" page that was lost when you deleted the page?

I'm sorry for not introducing a discussion on the Kansas State Capitol page, but there hadn't been any discussion on that page for over three years (the Google Ref was vandalism) and previous experience with getting someone to respond to talk: or discussion: has been less than lackluster.

Since you appear to be a Mod, I'd appreciate any guidance and your response to the questions posed above.

Thanks,

AC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphachimera (talk • contribs) 15:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I can certainly drop the deleted information in your userspace. I will point out that a sign in front of the building isn't a reliable source that can be cited, it's merely a pointer that indicates a need for further research. I would think that there is some official documentation or legislative proclamation to support your assertion that can be appropriately referenced. Acroterion _(talk) 15:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate it, on both counts. Alphachimera (talk) 15:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I found 1866 HB 34, authorizing the construction of a "Statehouse." The local paper always calls it the Statehouse, and when there's a meeting scheduled its always "Statehouse-166," for example, but even the architects call it both "Statehouse" and "Capitol." I'm going to call the Kansas State Historical Society over the lunch hour, I appreciate your continued interest. Alphachimera (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. In order to generate a discussion, you might want to make the move a subject for a request for comment, which will attract more attention to the subject. Acroterion _(talk) 15:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

question

I am trying to add isafe bags to this site. I apologize for my article looking like advertisment. I want to know how I can add this but not make it look like a promotion. All I want to do is make a definition/article on this product.

(Davidbyun (talk) 20:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC))david byun

Replied on your talk page. Acroterion _(talk) 20:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

What just happened??

I put a db-corp tag on SweetLeaf Stevia Sweetener due to notability concerns, then reverted myself when I saw further down in the article there were some pretty good assertions of notability (first to achieve GRAS status, impressive for a substance that the FDA once banned, and something about pioneering farming methods in South America). I go out to run an errand, then return to find it deleted anyway. What happened? Does a brief appearance of a speedy delete tag qualify an article for deletion? Or did someone revert my self-reversion of my tagging?

I'm not asking that the article be re-instated. I'm more curious about the process that led up to its deletion after I removed my speedy-delete tag. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I see from the deletion log that it got deleted twice today. Yours was the second time. Looks like someone else must have come along after me and put a db-advert tag on the article, resulting in the first deletion. Then the author must have re-created it and it got deleted again before it could be populated with any content. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Just so. Somebody else deleted it (I believe as spam) and then a bare hangon was posted by the OP. I left a message on their talkpage concerning general (not speedy-deletion) notability of the individual product and use of WIkipedia for promotion, as we already have an article on Stevia. The article as written veered into spam territory, although it managed to avoid most overt indications of promotion. I just deleted to no-content hangon notice. Acroterion _(talk) 21:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That reminds me, I wanted to suggest to the author to create an article on the company rather than the product, because the article that was deleted had notability assertions for the company (not the products). ~Amatulić (talk) 22:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

You're quite right, the company would almost certainly pass the notability standard. Acroterion _(talk) 22:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Toyota drag racing vandal

Hi! Thanks for blocking that account. If you've got the spare time, could you also please edit the corresponding contribution log entries to remove the obscenities? Thanks! Moocha (talk) 21:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

In general, we don't remove the edit summaries for that sort of thing; it's reserved for pure attacks, individually identifying information, and so on, but I'll take a second look. Acroterion _(talk) 22:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Yup, was a bit over the line though. Thanks again! Moocha (talk) 22:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Real People

Yes, but they are real people... It's true.

They're really offended by this, just letting you know! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobe631 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Advice or help, please

I deleted a user page thinking it was in the article mainspace. I believe I probably should've just blanked it and rev/deleted the edits in retropect. How best to handle the mess now? Restoring the page to blank it and rev/del the edits seems process heavy but I don't think leaving it as is would be best. I'll wait to hear your thoughts before proceeding. Thanks Tiderolls 06:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

The situation has changed slightly as the user is now blocked and the edits rev/del'd. I would still be interested in any opinion you may want to share. Thanks Tiderolls 13:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I would have had no qualms at all about deleting the page - it rings the bell on vandalism/G3, attack/G10, advertising/G11 and user content that does not advance the encyclopedia. The three G criteria apply in all namespaces. The last item, taken alone, would be appropriate for MfD, but there was no redemption for that particular userpage. I will admit to having mistakenly deleted userpages that I thought were in article space; I have restored them, giving the benefit of the doubt, if they're just social-networking or staying within the looser confines of userspace policy. I don't see any rev/dels associated with this user, and no reason to do so. Deletion is enough, as there are no problematic edit summaries or personal information. I have used rev/del sparingly, although I see many benefits - I have done a couple of delete/restores that hit the servers hard for a couple of minutes that could have been avoided by rev/del. It has no benefit in this case - deleted is enough. I, and many other admins usually delete userpages like that immediately after indef-blocking clear-cut vandal or sock accounts. You have to be judicious - if it['s an established user or a chance of an unblock, I would lean to blanking. Acroterion _(talk) 13:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Hello Sir I was in the middle of setting up a page and you deleted it, before I posted any references, details or proof of why I think it should be on Wiki, should I do it on my user page first? and let you see it first? I never knew I had to do that? I have plenty of tine as I am in summer recess. Oliver (Oliver Spy Fan (talk) 16:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)).

I assume you're familiar with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fledgling Jason Steed, which I referenced in the deletion. Any article on this subject should be written first in your userspace on a subpage, and should address the concerns raised in the AfD. Simple re-creation of the deleted content, or a partial start, is likely to be deleted again, since no simple re-creation of the deleted content will be sufficient to overcome the deletion discussion. Acroterion _(talk) 16:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes sir. I will do it on my user talk page, I cant see a sub page apart from my actual user page and talk pages. I will set it on my talk page and contact you once complete and once I have all the information for you to look at. I do NOT want to upset anyone.(Oliver Spy Fan (talk) 17:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)). Thank you sir for setting up my sandbox. If you get time please take a look. I have used factual site for reference rather than using the hundreds of blogs and reviews about the book. I have included different newspaper articles. I think it was rejected last year due to blog references and it was still a self published book, I have added ref to agents, publishers. I think the original poster and someone from admin crossed swords over nothing, rather than working together. I love Wikipedia and use it for 90% of my research for homework, so it must be accurate. I have not finished it yet, just wanted your opinion.(Oliver Spy Fan (talk) 04:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC))

still on google

hey, just wanted to ask how do i get a already deleted article from showing up when it is searched with google. thanks the don 247 —Preceding unsigned comment added by The don 247 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Google should update their listings in about a half an hour to an hour. If it is an article that has been on Wikipedia for a long time, mirror wikis may have picked it up and it could be on Google for awhile. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 16:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

What NH said. Wikipedia has no control over Google's search results; it's up to Google to update. Acroterion _(talk) 16:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Also see http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=164734 to expedite removal using Google's webmaster tools. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Partsearch Technologies

I am an employee at Partsearch Technologies. My user account for our organization is "Partsearch". I have been blocked for copying material from our corporate website to the wiki page. I will uniquely write the copy for that page, but I currently cannot update or do anything with my account.

Please help me with this as our organization would like to contribute to wikipedia

Thanks, John Neidhardt redact email Partsearch Technologies —Preceding unsigned comment added by John.neidhardt (talk • contribs) 18:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Provided you undertake to respect Wikipedia's conflict of interest policies, which effectively prevent you from editing on matters relating to Partsearch, you are free to edit with your present account. You may not use a "role" account such as the Partsearch (talk · contribs) account which purports to represent an organization or group rather than an individual, and the username will remain blocked as both a promotional account, based on the name and editing history, and as an unacceptable username per policy. Please carefully review Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. I will note that the article was deleted as a copyright violation, but could equally have been deleted as blatant advertising, which is most definitely not permitted on this encyclopedia. Acroterion _(talk) 19:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)