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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gege Gatt (2nd nomination)

Hello, ARandomName123,

I'm not sure exactly what happened to this page but this AFD got very screwed up. Somehow, it's got two different listed discussions. I'm not even sure how to close it tomorrow. I hope a more technically-savvy administrator can sort it out. But I wanted to give you a head's up. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Yea, I noticed. Thanks for letting me know.

Two editors decided to vote delete: User:Oaktree b and User:siroχo, while two editors decided to vote keep: User:DigitalArchiver2020 and User:Matt0513

If it helps, here is a cleaned up version of the discussion:

Gege Gatt

Fails to meet WP:BIO. Sources in article are either trivial mentions, or not independent of subject. ARandomName123 (talk) 17:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

• Delete He's published articles in the Times of Malta, but that's all I can find for this person. Not meeting GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 18:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • KEEP Thank you for your input, @Oaktree b. I appreciate your efforts in reviewing the sources. However, I would like to present several varied sources that support Gatt's notability, including academic publications. Gatt's notability is not solely dependent on his own published material, but also on contributions by others, impact, and recognition in the field. Here are some notable sources that establish Gege Gatt's notability

- "Çocuk, Oyun, Oyuncak Temalı Çalışmalar" edited by Prof. Dr. Derya Öcal, which touches on social individuality and the role of technology in the present day.

- Several academic peer reviewed papers such as 'Agile...' (peer reviewers: Fabri, S., Cassar, V., Fabri JP, Fenech G, Spiteri, J;) publication and the inclusion of Gatt's condensed view on AI itself indicates Gatt's expert status and recognition in his field. So much so, that the publication is a 'scholarly article' published by the University of Malta: https://www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/handle/123456789/110560

- Other journalistic publications (such as Forbes and The Telegraph) also covered his pioneering work in the digitisation of public healthcare and societal services</ref>

- His work and key thesis are also published by the International Data Corporation (IDC) which is the premier global provider of market intelligence in their report on technology for island

- As well as several books that carry directly or through third-party viewpoints Gatt's ideas on AI and technology, such as the President of Malta's State of the Nation 2021 book These sources, among others, contribute to the evidence of Gatt's notability as an entrepreneur, IT lawyer, and thought leader in the field of artificial intelligence. They demonstrate his impact, recognition, and involvement in various fields beyond his own published articles. Therefore, I believe the provided sources establish Gatt's notability in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines and are verifiable.

KEEP DigitalArchiver2020 (talk) 06:24, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

• Delete. WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Some seems hard to verify, even given the (inadequate) sourcing. The writing in this article is not NPOV, the inclusion of this article is not NPOV. —siroχo 22:15, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
• Keep - I respectfully disagree with the delete request and maintain that Dr. Gege Gatt satisfies the notability requirements stipulated by WP:BIO. I posit that the array of evidence presented supports his notability and that the provided articles and references may have been inaccurately classified as "trivial mentions", "hard to verify" or "not independent of the subject". Let's reconsider this in detail:

Substantial Coverage: Dr. Gatt's work has been extensively covered in several independent and reliable sources, both locally and internationally. His thoughts and work are addressed in the 'State of the Nation Report' by the President of Malta, a source of high credibility . His thoughts on AI and Society also features in a book on the Maltese media landscape titled, 'Navigating the Maltese Mediascape'.  The significant coverage in these esteemed sources underscores his notability.

Independent Coverage: Dr. Gatt's work in AI philosophy and digital technology has received independent coverage in academic publications, such as a peer-reviewed publication at the University of Malta . His work has also been cited in other scholarly publications, demonstrating his influence in his field such as:  and

Leadership and Impact: Dr. Gatt is not only a founder of EBO.ai but has been instrumental in driving its growth and accomplishments in the AI industry. His leadership at EBO.ai is linked to his notability, considering his notable contributions to AI which are translated into actual implementation and independently covered by various sources.

In this regard, Gatt's views are also carried by a key 2022 International Data Corporation (IDC) publication. IDC is the premier global provider of market intelligence.

Comparative Notability: When compared with other Wikipedia entries in the same field, Dr. Gatt's contributions and the level of independent coverage he has received are equivalent to, or even surpass those of other notable persons.

The sources provided offer significant and independent coverage of Dr. Gatt's work and contributions to his field, extending beyond "trivial mentions" and substantiating his notability. I recommend a careful reassessment of the evidence prior to making a decision on deletion.

Our shared goal is to ensure that Wikipedia remains an accurate, comprehensive, and reliable resource. I firmly believe that Dr. Gatt's contributions to his field are pertinent to Wikipedia's global audience.

Let's continue this discussion with a broader array of voices and scrutinize the evidence comprehensively to reach a consensus that respects both Wikipedia's notability guidelines and the notable contributions of Dr. Gatt to his field. DigitalArchiver2020 (talk)

Hello, DigitalArchiver2020, it seems you are knowledgeable on the subject, if you feel it meets WP:BIO, consider reading WP:BETTER and taking your hand at a full rewrite, with an understanding of neutral point of view. A problem with this current article is that it comes across like a resume/linked-in profile. Many editors are going to have trouble rewriting it due to the level of problems and a lack of knowledge (each claim needs to be verified in the citations, evaluated for inclusion and phrasing to preserve NPOV, and so on). A non-neutral point of view is an agreed upon valid reason for deletion, even if notability is eventually established. It can be tricky to learn the the right voice, most of us continue to learn, but it's vital to creating a good encyclopedia. —siroχo 23:43, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Siroxo

Thank you for your response and valuable feedback. I appreciate your suggestions. I understand the importance of maintaining a neutral point of view and ensuring that all claims are properly verified and supported by reliable citations.

I agree that constant refinement and possible section rewrites may be necessary. This is precisely why my stance is Keep (as 'Delete' would remove that opportunity and is a measure too far). As a contributor to Wikipedia, I am committed to creating a high-quality and unbiased encyclopedia. With the right feedback and the guidelines outlined in WP:BETTER there is no reason why the standards of neutrality and verifiability cannot be met (assuming they are not already met - I am keen to hear others on this).

I acknowledge the challenges involved in rewriting the article, and preserving a neutral point of view. However this is the point. I (and others) are willing to take on such tasks especially when covering notable individual from small member states (like Malta) where the content (and access thereto) is limited.

I am committed to contributing good quality content to this and other pages which is why I feel Keep is the right call. DigitalArchiver2020 (talk) 00:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

• Keep Refine but not delete. More sources would be desirable, and more detail on his studies and thesis (plural). Mtonna257 (talk) 08:37, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed @Matt0513. Thank you.

The KEEP approach is the sensible route as the recommendations you provided are pragmatic, possible and will be implemented. DigitalArchiver2020 (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

ARandomName123 (talk) 16:39, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Forbes

Thanks for your input on my AFD close and info regarding WP:Reliable sources. Are you telling me all content on Forbes.com is freelance and in from Forbes Magazine given they don't qualify as primary sources according to WP:RS? Just for laughs, do you think Forbes got the naming rights to the Pittsburgh Pirates ballpark before they move to Three Rivers Stadium? --NYC Guru (talk) 01:34, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I didn't say that all content on Forbes.com is freelance, just content written by Forbes Contributors. The consensus on WP:RSP reads: "Most content on Forbes.com is written by contributors with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable."

If you click on the link, the byline specifically states that the author is a Forbes contributor.

Not sure what you mean about the stadiums/ballpark. I don't follow baseball, nor am I American. ARandomName123 (talk) 02:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Well, You're North American because You're from Canada sporting that red maple leaf flag. WP:RS really helps when doing WP:new page patrol and the decision to nominate them. It will definitely be of influence when reviewing references in the actual articles. NYC Guru (talk) 02:24, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

By American, I meant from the USA. I agree that WP:RS is helpful when doing new page patrol, but I'm not sure how this is related. I am not a new page reviewer, nor did I discover this article through a log of new pages. ARandomName123 (talk) 02:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Michael Katsidis in jail

Michael Alan Katsidis is currently in jail at Woodford correctional centre in Queensland. I am happy to prove this for it to be written on his page  120.22.151.197 (talk) 02:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source for this claim. I can't find anything related to this on the internet. Your edit has been removed from the page history for: violating our BLP policy, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revision_deletion#2 ARandomName123 (talk) 02:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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• I gave you reviewer since you didn't have it for some reason. Nice CV work, thanks for your efforts. :-) Katie^talk 19:48, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk) 22:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Re: User talk page notification about blanking User talk:80.233.45.197

Please note that I was merely making the same changes as Arjayay made on User talk:80.233.60.187 back in May, which is clearing misuse of the talk page by a user whose sole edits were complaints about Wikipedia on that talk page. IP 80.233.45.197 is within the same range and was exhibiting the same behavior around the same time period in February. The IP range has since been blocked for a year with talk page access revoked.

I have reported the disallowance of the blanking on the false positive page. Coincidentally, Kaseng55 successfully blanked that page around the same time I was trying to. 104.175.74.27 (talk) 22:43, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Ah ok, sorry about the misunderstanding. I just saw a mass of user logs for that page, and assumed something bad was happening. ARandomName123 (talk) 22:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

walid belguerfi nominated for deletion

it says it is getting deleted for having no references I have now added 2 references and I am going to add more David3829128 (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Having references doesn't mean the article should be kept. The references should also provide independent, significant and reliable coverage of the subject. See WP:NBLP for more info. If you would like to, you can participate in the deletion discussion. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

they do have independent significant reliable coverage on the subject what more do I need to do to keep this wikepidia page. David3829128 (talk) 03:12, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Where? The sources in the article are interviews, which are not independent. The other sources are summaries of game results, which is not significant coverage. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

tell me what is then and I will add it because I am tetermined to not delete this wikipedia page David3829128 (talk) 03:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

what is one then so I can provide it for you so you dont delete David3829128 (talk) 03:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I’ve tried looking online, but I couldn’t find anything that meets these guidelines. If you can, add it to the article. If you don’t want the article deleted, I suggest you participate at the AfD discussion I linked above. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Also, it’s currently 11:30 pm, and since I’m human, I need to sleep, so I’ll respond to any follow ups tomorrow. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:30, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

there is many in arabic because he is Algerian and in algeria arabic is the most spoken language David3829128 (talk) 03:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

If so, please link the articles. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:15, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

how do I link the articles should I just copy the link and send it David3829128 (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

https://elraed.dz/29845-%D8%B9%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%AD%D9%82-%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7

https://m.kooora.com/?player=98848

http://bel-abbes.info/arabic/2014/07/25/%D9%81%D8%B3%D8%AE-%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D9%88-%D8%AD%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-3/

I only sent a couple, if their is any type of specific references that you want tell me and I will find some. David3829128 (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

All three links only provide passing mentions, not enough to show significant coverage. First article isn't about him, he's just mentioned once. Second link is a database entry. While he is in the title in the third article, his coverage amounts to a single sentence. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

give me 5 minutes I will find better refrences David3829128 (talk) 15:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20120627113118/http://www.cabba.org:80/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%87%D9%84%D9%8A/441-%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%82-%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82.html David3829128 (talk) 15:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok, so I'm not sure about this one. It is better than the other sources, as it provides more coverage, and seems to be independent, but the translator I'm using isn't giving me the best results so it's a bit hard to determine the length/reliability of coverage. Regardless, multiple sources are needed, not just one.

However, I would recommend putting this as a comment on the deletion discussion, to see what other editors think of it. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

thanks David3829128 (talk) 16:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

walid belguerfi

I have added new references to walid belguerfi wikepidia page as you said they dont give enough coverage David3829128 (talk) 03:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

CR7

I don't want to send another edit request there because it wouldn't look good.... I just replied to you on what changes I wanted to make and there is no answer. Don't understand why I almost get no attention there.... hope it's polotics or something. Can you just make this little edit? I will very appreciate it. Can't do it by myself because my user don't have 500 edits. CitizenZorro (talk) 18:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for missing the response. I didn't get a notification for that for some reason. Next time, you can ping me like this: @ARandomName123, and I'll be able to answer more quickly. I'll respond to the request on the article talk page. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:16, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for you help.

👍🙏❤ CitizenZorro (talk) 19:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

If you need something on Wikipedia just text me 🙂 CitizenZorro (talk) 19:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 07:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Amitchell125,

I'm not sure if you saw the message at the top of my talk/user page, but I am currently on vacation until the 16th, so I won't be able to make any changes to the article you suggest until then. Sorry about that, and thanks for reviewing. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, yes I knew that, have a good time! Amitchell125 (talk) 05:55, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

The article Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Talk:Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter/GA3 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 07:03, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank You!

	Honorable Wikipedian
	A Thank You to a remarkable Wikipedian who taught me a few more things about automating tasks on Wikipedia, and making me feel proud to be a Wikipedian, learning by doing. Thank you dear friend! GoodSimon (talk) 23:28, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

The article Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter for comments about the article, and Talk:Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter/GA3 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 08:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:17, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding K. M. Bhaskaran

Hey @ARandomName123, I have reverted your edit on K. M. Bhaskaran. The facebook page which has the similar content was created on May 21, 2014 as mentioned on the page itself. It was the same day the Wikipedia article was also created. This feels more like a PR tried to create the cinematogrpaher's digital presence. I am sure the content was copied from Facebook and not vice-versa. Kindly check again and feel free to undo my revert if you think otherwise. Good day! Jeraxmoira (talk) 06:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for letting me know.

Given that they were both created on the same day, I feel it is reasonable to assume they are created by the same person. I'm not entirely sure how Facebook unofficial pages work, but according to this unofficial pages that have content copied from Wikipedia will have a Wikipedia icon at the bottom, which this page does not have, so you may be right. How do you feel about sending it to Wikipedia:Copyright Investigations? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:14, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Never heard of Wikipedia:Copyright Investigations till now. How do we send it there? Is there an option in Twinkle to do it? Jeraxmoira (talk) 07:35, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

No option in twinkle, afaik, but there are instructions on the page i linked and at Template:Copyright. I've done this once before, so i'm happy to do it if you aren't sure how, though it will have to wait until im like semi-awake or smth in a few hours. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 08:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I have submitted one here Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2023 August 26, not sure if I have formatted it correctly. Jeraxmoira (talk) 05:01, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

The formatting looks good, but you did forget to add Template:Copyvio to the article itself, so I've added it myself. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:52, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Actually, I did try to add it. The copyvio template showed when I added it without the subst:, but the guidelines said that subst: should be included. When I tried with the subst:, It didn't show up in the edit preview and I didn't wanna make a mess in the edit history. Thanks for adding it <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 16:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Understood. No problem! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Joan Miller (actress)

Thank you for accepting my submission. You are most kind. Prudens Hominem (talk) 17:39, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

No problem! However I believe it just barely meets the notability guidelines, so it would be great if you could add another source or two. Thanks. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:41, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:2016 Rhode Island Presidential caucuses

The sentence in which you are confused of refers to the delegate nomination process, in which voters vote for a candidate and the candidate gets delegates in their name for the republican convention. At the convention, delegates come together to nominate the candidate in which they were assigned to and the candidate with the most delegates gets the nomination to which party they are assigned to. Hope this helps! Zander123sims4 (talk) 01:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. But how could they have nominated for the 2016 Republican nomination in 2023? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Ami Dror

@ARandomName123: Greetings. Regarding Draft:Ami Dror, I believe you declining my submission on the grounds of sources is completely unjustified. In contrast to your claim, the article is sufficiently referenced and sufficiently sourced from numerous reliable news outlets from Israel, the U.S. and China. I kindly ask that you reconsider your action and that you reinstate the article in the main namespace where it belongs. --Omer Toledano (talk) 05:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, the main reason I declined your submission was because you submitted it immediately after another editor declined it, without making any changes. There are also some slightly promotional bits, but that is easily fixed. Also, could you please provide 3 sources that you think contribute the most to his notability? Thanks. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

@ARandomName123: Hi again. In regards to your request, I believe the 3 sources that I think most contribute to his notability are already up there. (1 - article in The Times of Israel, 16 - The New York Times, 5 - CNBC article, 18 - Fox Business interview, and there are more there such as articles in South China Morning Post, The Times of India, Haaretz, Calcalist, TheMarker and others, and these are just the ones that contribute to his notability from the entrepreneurial perspective without going into the many others in the Israeli press that refer to him being a leader in the ongoing struggle against judicial reform in Israel. Therefore, with that said, I don't think there is any room to doubt the notability of Ami Dror and kindly ask that you reconsider. --Omer Toledano (talk) 05:11, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Understood point on notability. Feel free to resubmit. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 06:23, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@ARandomName123: Done. Resubmitted. --Omer Toledano (talk) 06:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@ARandomName123: Why did it get rejected again after resubmission? I don't think it's right. Could you please assist? --Omer Toledano (talk) 08:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Please bring it up with the declining reviewer on their talk page, or at the AFC help desk. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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First wikipedia submission declined

Draft:Dr. Tharupathi Munasinghe

Hi ARandomName123,

I am new to Wikipedia writing and have been working on my first article which was declined due to many reasons. I know since it is my first, I had done several mistakes. I am working on the article tone. However, I am not sure about the links and citations. I included some pdf, journal articles, newspaper articles, youtube links as references. Some of them had client's academic and career information published by his universities as a scholar. I also included some websites containing client's work. Can you please let me know what I had done wrong?

The article says it needs pretty much a rewrite, which, I would happily do.

Comment: Pretty much needs to be entirely rewritten. Sources are needed for the unsourced bits. Please remove external links from the body, and cut down on some of the works. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

1. Should I remove all the external links?
2. Which work should I cut down on?

BizChrome (talk) 11:10, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I see this has also been posted at the teahouse and the editor there basically hit all the points I was thinking about. I've added a bit more of my thoughts there as well. Please follow the guidance given there. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:27, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, all external links in the body have to be removed (which I see you have already done) per WP:EL
2. I'd say keep the ones that have received the most news coverage/reviews, and remove the rest. The ones that have their own Wikipedia article could also be kept.

ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Yes, I understood what the editor of teahouse said, and I am restarting with backward writing.

As you had re-read the article, can you please let me know whether I got the "tone" right? I tried my best to keep it unbiased and plain, while being informative. Do you have any suggestions for more improvements? I am highly interested in contributing to Wikipedia, and I really appreciate the restrictions you are adhering to despite thousands of daily articles. That means quality! BizChrome (talk) 03:35, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

The tone is a bit better, but still needs significant clean up. Please avoid WP:PEACOCK terms. You may want to take a look at some other BLPs to model yours after (ex. WP:GAs) ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

on the United States of Libya Flag topic

Good Day Good Sir, I appreciate your thoughtful review of the test article's content. Regarding "The United States of Libya: A Study" it is a hand-written document that will be available in digital format soon. Official sources will be used in collaboration with the state to ensure its accuracy. It's important to note that this article served as a test sample, intended to illustrate the final form of the scientific article that will be published in the near future. Thank you once again for your review, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused.

  - Jihad AlDakhil, Tripoli - Libya 2023 JihadAlDakhil (talk) 06:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your interest in contributing to Wikipedia!

Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. To be included in Wikipedia, a subject needs to meet the general notability guideline. That is, receiving significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources. As your document has yet to be released, and has not received such coverage, it is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. If it does receive coverage when it is released, you are welcome to resubmit later. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:25, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Changes to my Article ‘3-feet law’

Hi there,

Thanks for fixing up my article, I was hoping someone would make it more easy to read, but I was just wondering which content in particular was found to be copyrighted? Thanks, Galaxy111 (talk) 08:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

The lead and the section "United States" have some copied content. Those, and the "Skepticism" section, have some close paraphrasing. You can see the copyvios report here: [1] ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:40, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Our Lady of Guadalupe Church (Omaha, Nebraska)

can you please check a Draft:Our Lady of Guadalupe Church (Omaha, Nebraska) is upload to article Submission declined or aspect? JNOJ1423 (talk) 19:48, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to take a look at the article, but next time, please be patient or ask at the AFC help desk or Teahouse. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:54, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

@JNOJ1423: Most of the article seems to be closely paraphrased or copied from your sources. This is not allowed due to copyright concerns, so please rewrite in your own words. Also, "One of congregation lady told me this." isn't exactly allowed as a source. Thanks. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:56, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

can you please check a Draft:Our Lady of Guadalupe Church (Omaha, Nebraska) again, please sorry violent copyright. JNOJ1423 (talk) 00:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Please be patient, I, or a different reviewer, will review it when we get the time. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

oh ok im sorry JNOJ1423 (talk) 23:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for the feedback on my first contribution. There is so much information on Wikipedia it's overwhelming. Wondering if there are some specific things you can suggest in order for me to improve my article?

Thanks. New2W (talk) 13:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia!

I'm a bit confused as to who you're messaging and what you're asking here. If you're messaging Jauerback, please leave a message on their talk page. If you are messaging me, please create a new section. I'm also not sure what you mean by "first contribution"; your only edit is this message. If you could clarify, that would be great. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move discussion

There is currently a Request Move discussion about William IV. Since you participated in the previous move discussion involving William IV, I thought you might want to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		Thank you for helping out at CCI. Your help is greatly appreciated! Keep up the good work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

ty! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

+1. Prolific and excellent work. Much appreciated. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

99% great job

Hi ARandomName123, and thank you for keeping an eye out for text copied from incompatibly licensed sources. Your recent revdel request is greatly appreciated. Make sure you do not add |cleaned=yes to such requests, as the text hasn't really been "cleaned" until an admin comes along and revdels the old versions. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for letting me know! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for continuing your excellent copyright cleanup work. The past couple revdel requests of yours I came across were definitely in need of action. As you're using the cv-revdel script, you may want to uncheck the "Include End?" box more often or end the requested range one revision earlier. For example, admins don't need to revdel the edit in which you remove the copyvio. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:49, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh ok, will do. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: Hi, I followed your suggestion to uncheck the "Include End?" box on this edit, but it only showed one revision to redact, even though there are multiple revs between the addition and removal. I also tried ending the range one revision earlier, which gave a range, which was what I expected. Which one is correct? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 22:14, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

I tested and am having the same issue. I'd go with your second option there, which worked perfectly, moving forward. Trying to see if I can get a bit more testing in and then I may talk to the script's creator. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:10, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:50, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Exclusion of list of all articles/Updating revelant sources

Hello @ARandomName123, thank you for the earlier feedbacks as regards adjusting the article. Please can you take further look again. Immense thanks. Alao Abiodun (talk) 03:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it when I get the time, in a few hours. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 12:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:NPOV and add a another source or two to prove notability. If you need further assistance or a second opinion, you can also ask at WP:AFCHD. Feel free to resubmit once you have finished the improvements. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:50, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Qaraqosh wedding fire

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"The Steal" pages

Thanks @ARandomName123! Are you looking at the e-book for the paperback or hardback edition? I'd like to cite page numbers for the following quotes:

• "Specifically, in the recent election, the Village of Central Lake included a proposed initiated ordinance to authorize one marihuana retailer establishment within the village"
• during the rescan of Antrim County's ballots, the Dominion machines wouldn't accept three ballots
• Trump directed aide Molly Michael to email the report to the Department of Justice with the subject line, "From POTUS."  It included a set of the "Antrim County Talking Points" for Jeff Rosen, soon to be acting attorney general. rootsmusic (talk) 23:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

@Rootsmusic: My version is the ebook, but the page number changes whenever you change the font size, so I'm basing the page numbers off the index at the back of the book. If you need any excerpts, I'd be happy to send you some.

1. pg. 156
2. also pg. 156
3. 158

ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Glenn Bujnoch

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Question from Boris459 (20:08, 6 October 2023)

Hi what should i read about? --Boris459 (talk) 20:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi ARandom, I sent you an email about my page with some questions! Thanks for being very speedy! CiaraDiara (talk) 01:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@CiaraDiara: Hi, I've received your email. Do you mind if I respond here? Or would you rather I respond to the email? Either is fine with me. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

You can respond here! Thanks CiaraDiara (talk) 02:57, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Acceptable references are sources that are published and independent of the subject, where there is little reason to doubt the publishers reliability. For example, the local news website you cited was fine, but a random blog for example, is not. However, if the blog, or similar self-published source was created directly by the subject of the article, and satisfies the criteria at WP:BLPSELFPUB, it may be used as a reference. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources and Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Reliable_sources contains a lot more information on this, if you need further guidance.

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Generally, for biographies of living people, every sentence that contains a quote, or any potentially challenged information must be sourced. In practice, it's best to make sure every sentence, or at least every paragraph, is sourced. Unsourced information can be removed at any time.

Yes, the amount of links to other articles is acceptable. They are generally used for words where the reader might not understand, or want to know more.

Please make sure your article is neutrally worded. Words like "intrigued" and phrases like "where he did not excel due to repeated bullying and other issues in the education system," should be avoided unless attributable to reliable, secondary sources. As a final note, please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:48, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Shaan Khan Bekaboo (11:39, 8 October 2023)

Hi --Shaan Khan Bekaboo (talk) 11:39, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Malik2308 (14:46, 8 October 2023)

I have written an article regarding a senior police officer. I need some help to add references. I have added the links in the reference section but it seems not to be working. --Malik2308 (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@Malik2308: Hi, and welcome!

If you're using the visual editor, there should be a toolbar at the top that looks like this:

Click where in the text you would like to add a reference, and click on the cite button on the tool bar. It should bring up something like this:
Paste in the link, and press generate. If it doesn't work, click Manual, and choose the relevant format. Fill the form with information and press Insert. This should insert an inline reference, and automatically add it to the bottom of the article. Further information can be found at Help:Referencing for beginners and Help:VisualEditor#Adding a new reference. If you need further assistance feel free to ask me. Good luck on your article! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Grand.Safer on NATO Science and Technology Organization (19:50, 8 October 2023)

I need some assistance from you to enable me finished these assignment strong. I help in find appropriate answers to the questions. --Grand.Safer (talk) 19:50, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@Grand.Safer: Hi, and welcome! I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here, could you please clarify what you would like me to help with? Thanks!. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Love broke symptom

Help me defined it in your own way Grand.Safer (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, could you please clarify? I can help with Wikipedia-related matters, like editing, but if you want to ask something research related, maybe try one of our reference desks? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Boilerup1 on Trey Yingst (16:23, 11 October 2023)

How do I add a short sentence to Trey Yengst’s Education section? --Boilerup1 (talk) 16:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @Boilerup1:

There should be an edit button at the top of the page, or next to the section heading. Just click that and you will be taken to the editor. Please note that all information added should be supported by a reliable source. If you need further assistance, check out our introduction page, or message me again. Thanks, and welcome! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Boilerup1 (talk) 16:49, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Infinity Early College High School

Hi ARandomName123, if you believe it meets the notability criteria, I have no issue with you accepting it. I do think it fails WP:NPOV though and suspect COI. S0091 (talk) 21:56, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @S0091, I was a bit on the fence on this one, so your second opinion was appreciated. I was going to accept and cleanup the tone as needed, and I agree that there seems to be a possible COI, so I'll leave it as a decline for now. Thanks for notifying me! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 22:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

They did make some improvements and resubmitted it and also addressed the COI concern, a former student which I don't think meets COI. Like you, I think it is borderline so thought it best accept and let the community to decide. S0091 (talk) 17:58, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Looks much better now. I think you made the right choice. ty! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:13, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, it seems like you know more about creating pages than I do. Do you have some ideas for Operation Breakwater? AstroSaturn (talk) 20:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@AstroSaturn: I'm not too familiar with that topic area, but there are a few things that need to be fixed. Wikidata and the commons should not be used as sources. A summary of what happened is also needed, since the original summary was removed. Also, please be aware that editing and creation of articles relating to Palestine/Arab-Israeli conflicts are under editing restrictions per WP:ARBPIA4. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. AstroSaturn (talk) 20:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Chhindari Dam/reservoir

Hello ARandomName123,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Chhindari Dam/reservoir for deletion, because it's a redirect to a non-existent or deleted page.

If you don't want Chhindari Dam/reservoir to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

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Josey Wales ^Parley 18:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Just a redirect left over from a page move. Thanks for cleaning it up! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Jkyem24 (21:28, 23 October 2023)

Hello my mentor, how could I know how to edit and write article in Wikipedia joining the community for the first time? --Jkyem24 (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jkyem24: Hi, and welcome!

If you'd like to learn how to edit, our tutorial is a good place to start: Help:Introduction. If you already know the basics of editing, and would like to see what to edit, there should be some suggested edits at Special:Homepage. There are also more tasks at Wikipedia:Task Center.

Creating an article requires you be registered for at least 4 days, and have at least 10 edits, as it's recommended that you get some experience with Wikipedia first. However, if you aren't able to wait the 4 days, you can submit a draft at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. I also recommend reading Help:Your first article for some helpful tips.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:37, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I will go through the above information and have the understanding of the basics of editing as you mentioned above. Jkyem24 (talk) 21:43, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mohanrajnellipudi (16:32, 24 October 2023)

hello --Mohanrajnellipudi (talk) 16:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@Mohanrajnellipudi: Hello! If you have any questions about Wikipedia, feel free to ask me! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from TheRealJang (20:53, 25 October 2023)

How do I make a new "page" --TheRealJang (talk) 20:53, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@TheRealJang:

Hi, since you are not autoconfirmed yet (10 edits, 4 days of experience) you can not create articles directly. However, you can create a draft an submit it for review. Just go to Wikipedia:Article wizard and follow the instructions there. You may want to read Help:Your first article before you start. Feel free to message me if you have any questions! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

On 24 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter photographed Curiosity (pictured) as it landed on Mars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Question about the striked through comment I made

I noticed that you struck through my comment on the talk page for Shani Louk's article. I'd like to understand the specific reasons for this action, especially in relation to the WP:ARBECR and WP:PIA references you mentioned. I genuinely want to contribute constructively to the discussion.

Thanks Shaul7 (talk) 01:43, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@Shaul7, thanks for your interest in contributing!

To answer your question, WP:PIA states that any pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict are under what is known as extended confirmed restriction. That is, only editors with over 500 edits and 30 days tenure are permitted to edit articles in the topic area. This restriction also applies to internal project discussions like articles for deletion, which was why I struck out your comment. However, you are able to make suggestions or edit requests on article talk pages. More information can be found at the pages I linked in my strike, WP:ARBECR and WP:PIA.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 02:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

(Hi ARandomName123, thank you very much, but please provide this information including {{subst:alert/first|a-i}} on the talk pages of reverted users in the future if possible) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh ok, will do. Didn't know about that, so thanks for telling me! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello ARandomName123:

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The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 1700 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023 NPP backlog drive – Points award

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		This award is given to ARandomName123 for collecting more than 100 points during the October 2023 NPP backlog drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to the drive! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Ty! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:55, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Fano (militia) edit

I added sources and wanted to see if you could do the edit now. ሰይፍ (talk) 18:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I'll take a look at it now. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Ami Dror

@ARandomName123: Hi again. Could you please help me? I don't see why the article keeps getting rejected. I don't see any logic behind these rejections. Ami Dror is a well-known and notable personality in Israel. --Omer Toledano (talk) 03:33, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@Omert33: Hi, you'll have to ask the rejecting reviewer for another chance. Unfortunately, I haven't been reviewing many AFC submissions lately, so please ask for help at the Teahouse or the AfC help desk. However, the comment left by Ca seems to sum up the concerns pretty well. Some in-depth, independent coverage would be needed. Thanks for your work, and sorry if this isn't as helpful as you expected. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Cman cat con (13:05, 8 November 2023)

How do I make an article --Cman cat con (talk) 13:05, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cman cat con: Hi! To make an article, please follow the step-by-step instructions in the Wikipedia:Article wizard. This creates a draft. Once you have completed it, you can submit it for review, where an experienced editor will check to see if it meets our notability guidelines. This involves checking if the subject of your article has been the subject of independent, significant coverage by reliable sources. If it meets this guideline, it will be accepted, if not, it will be declined and you will be able to make improvements. Please see Wikipedia:Your First Article for more helpful information.

Happy editing, and thanks for your interest in contributing! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:35, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Also, please don't edit or change other people's comments, as you did here. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Thisbarbieedits (20:10, 8 November 2023)

Hi 👋 . I listened to a great TED talk today where the speaker said that Wikipedia always needs more editors. It's something I'd love to contribute to as it's something I use daily - where do you recommend I get started? --Thisbarbieedits (talk) 20:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Thisbarbieedits Hi!

Thanks for your interest in contributing! To start, I'd recommend going through the tutorial at Help:Introduction to learn how to edit, and Wikipedia:Ten simple rules for editing Wikipedia for a few extra tips. Feel free practice your editing in your sandbox, which should be located at Special:Mypage/sandbox. Once you feel you have a decent grasp of editing, start editing! If you're not sure what to edit, check out the Wikipedia:Task Center! Good luck, and feel free to message me again if you have further questions! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:31, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Assistance

Hi I saw you declined my entry Draft:Verdis (micronation. Can you please clarify more from reason here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#footer MicroSupporter (talk) 23:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@MicroSupporter: Hi, sorry, I wasn't able to leave an additional message when using a custom decline reason, but I've just added a comment explaining the decline. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from 1100c (02:49, 16 November 2023)

hey! I'm wondering if I can make a wikipedia article on a smaller online band? I do not know how to make a artice. sorry if this is a waste of time ;-; --1100c (talk) 02:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @1100c!

It depends. To establish notability, the band needs coverage from multiple independent, reliable sources. Meeting any of the other criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music) also works. If you believe the band meets this requirement, then follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Article Wizard to get started. See Help:Your first article for more information. Good luck! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 02:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Aviator Jr (04:10, 24 November 2023)

Hello... I made some edits on a page along with proper references. But without reasons all the edits were reverted. Some details on the page are wrong info. --Aviator Jr (talk) 04:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Aviator Jr: Hi, it would be best to take it up with whoever reverted your edits. Sorry for the non-answer, but it's currently 11pm in my timezone and I was about to head to bed. If you have more questions, feel free to ask me, and I'll answer them at some point tomorrow. You can also ask for help at the Teahouse. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 04:14, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for helping to revert that IP-hopper on Affection and Interpersonal Relationship. Keep up the good work! Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)My Talk Page 17:27, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, and you too! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Aviator Jr (14:58, 28 November 2023)

How to add reference on a talk page --Aviator Jr (talk) 14:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Aviator Jr: Adding references to the talk page should be the same as adding references to an article. There should be a button that says "Cite" at the top of the page when you enter editing mode. Just click that, and enter the relevant info. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, got it. Aviator Jr (talk) 15:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rootdocta (09:19, 30 November 2023)

Introducing myself, no real questions yet, I’m here because your highjohn the conqueror entry is embarrassing, typos, syntax, and ridiculous kiddie politicized content

I gotta fix it

Then decide what next, this feel like a major potential time suck

So at moment don’t know what questions to ask

Kinda expect to learn in the doing but open to suggestions --Rootdocta (talk) 09:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Rootdocta, and welcome!

Learning by doing is a perfectly fine way to start editing, but you may want to preview your edits before you click publish to check if you've made any formatting mistakes. If you'd like a more structured guide to contribution, there's one at Help:Introduction. If you have any questions, feel free to ask! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #29

Welcome to the twenty-ninth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Community Conversations

The Growth team will host its first community conversation Monday, 4 December (19:00 - 20:30 UTC). The topic for this meeting will be Mentorship.

This first meeting language will be English, but we plan to host conversations in other languages, and about other topics. Please visit the conversation page on-wiki for the details on how to join. You can also watch the page, or suggest ideas for upcoming conversations there.

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Question from Lanitaf (22:56, 1 December 2023)

Hello ARandomName123, I want to add the name of Candace Parker's son to her wikipedia page. I would like to make the following edit: "Petrakova gave birth to a son, Airr Larry Petrakov Parker, in February 2022." When I inserted a citation, it said 71 rather than 83. Here is the article link: https://people.com/parents/candace-parker-welcomes-baby-with-wife-anna-petrakova/ Is this how it is supposed to work? Thank you, Lanita --Lanitaf (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Lanitaf, by 71 and 83, I'm assuming you mean the citation number? If so, yes that should be fine. However, before you add the name, please take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of names. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I read the privacy of names article you referenced. The name is in the People article and in a separate documentary called Unapologetic. Since it is mentioned a few times, does this seem reasonable to you? Lanitaf (talk) 23:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lanitaf: I probably wouldn't, if this is all the coverage there is. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:18, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

it seems odd that Wikipedia lists her daughter's name and her dog's name. She also proudly appears in ad campaigns with her whole family. Lanitaf (talk) 00:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

She talks about her family as a sports broadcaster too. I am a little confused. Writers like Jacqueline Woodson also have their childrens' names listed and there is only one citation. Lanitaf (talk) 00:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lanitaf: If you feel strongly about it, feel free to add it in. If anyone disagrees, they can just revert. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

ok, that seems fair. Lanitaf (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Lanitaf (23:05, 1 December 2023)

Hello again. How do I add this article from The Boston Globe that LaDoris Hazzard Cordell wrote to her page? The link is here: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/06/20/opinion/fatal-flaw-judicial-politics-how-outrage-around-brock-turner-led-centuries-extra-prison-time/ There is a section that says that she is a frequent legal commentator for CNN, NPR, etc. It would be grammatically incorrect to include this to the list without a semicolon. Tangentially I also have multiple citations for her on different news networks? She actually called former President Trump a "chatty Charlie." How would I add this? Thanks, Lanita

Here they are: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/06/20/opinion/fatal-flaw-judicial-politics-how-outrage-around-brock-turner-led-centuries-extra-prison-time/ --Lanitaf (talk) 23:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lanitaf: When you enter editing mode, there should be a button at the top that says "Cite." Click on that, and fill in the necessary details. It should be formatted automatically. Unless you feel it is crucial for reader understanding, or has generated secondary news coverage, calling Trump a "chatty Charlie" is generally not something we would include in the article. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Public domain? Why?

What's the justification for asserting that material is public domain?

edit

This article incorporates public domain material from https://www.achp.gov/preserve-america/stewards/historicorps

S Philbrick(Talk) 19:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Unless otherwise stated, works created by the US federal government is in the public domain, no? There's no copyright notice anywhere, and no indication that anyone other than that US gov. agency wrote that text. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed that HistoriCorps is part of the federal government – for some reason I thought they were a private organization. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

No worries. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 22:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Addisonraefan!! (17:28, 8 December 2023)

How do you change your display name?? --Addisonraefan!! (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @Addisonraefan!!: If you have an email associated with your account, please fill out the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Else, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. See Wikipedia:Changing username for more info. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:30, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf on Help:Your first article (17:45, 12 December 2023)

Hello Do I get money when I post my articles on Wikipedia. --Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 17:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

No, editors on Wikipedia are almost always volunteers. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Preaching an Islamic book for youths.

Cleanliness Cl eanliness is half of fait 1.During the summer months we should bath regularly as we tend to perspire more in the heat. 2.Apply perfume as it is Sunnah to do so. 4. Clothes should be be changed regularly.h. Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

please like,subscribe and share Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf, if you have a question, feel free to ask, but if you're experimenting with editing, please do so at the sandbox and not at my talk page. Thanks, ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf on Draft:Tuhfatush Shabaab (22:01, 12 December 2023)

What is Reference --Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 22:01, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf: Hi, a reference is something that supports what is written in the article. They appear as superscripts, like . You can add them by clicking on the Cite button at the toolbar. Further information and a tutorial can be found at Help:Referencing for beginners. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:47, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

References

Question from Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf on User:Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (02:49, 13 December 2023)

Hello 👋 How do create my own link on Wikipedia? --Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 02:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf: Hi, I'm not sure what you mean by your own link. If you are talking about your userpage, it is located at User:Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf. Otherwise, please elaborate. Thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:15, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (02:59, 13 December 2023)

How do i create a global account on Wikipedia --Mtkodudjjfjnxujrbtjfijxjhjrhvyjf (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, global accounts are now the default on all Wikimedia projects, so there is no need to create one. An account will automatically be created when you go to a different language wiki. You can view a list of your global accounts at Special:CentralAuth. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 03:19, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Captain Mohamed Nazim

Please detail to us how the links are as mentions. The subject of the articles is the person itself. please explain your decision why SIGCOV is not met.

https://psmnews.mv/en/119795

https://psmnews.mv/en/119795

https://raajje.mv/134165

https://mbt.mv/mss-appoints-captain-mohamed-nazim-as-new-md/

All are subject specific.

Existence Leesaaisath 19:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Previous two users could not explain why and are silent. If you dont check articles properly of follow others it will hurt Wikipedia. If I was wrong please explain politely why this is not SIGCOV. I have been here for quite a while and carefully select people based on rules to populate Maldives wiki. Existence Leesaaisath 19:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Leesaaisath: Hi, all of them are about his appointment to managing director, and there's no coverage in the articles apart from that. Additionally, if this is the only thing he is known for, WP:BIO1E applies. If you would like a second opinion, you can ask at the AFC help desk. Thanks, ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

That's wonderful, thank you for the explanation. That helped me alot. This is what I always ask from people here. We are volunteers and explaining the rules without diminishing a person is all that matters. Existence Leesaaisath 07:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. If you arent too busy

Hello. I hope this message meets you well. Do review this Canadian page. Patricia Lamanna. Cheers. Wallclockticking (talk) 20:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Wallclockticking: Seems fine at first glance, though I am a bit confused as to the paid editing tag at the top of the page. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

That was random vandalism. Wallclockticking (talk) 21:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Wallclockticking No you are a paid editor for undisclosed under the table disclosed payment amounts. 2601:589:4E00:BE40:41DB:DFA4:70C:11BB (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Im reporting you next. You are a troll. Wallclockticking (talk) 23:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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BasiGo draft review request.

Hello could you kindly review Draft:BasiGo. It was declined last week but after making changes the reviewer said it was fine but couldn't review again and accept to be fair to everyone else. It has been a week now I don't know what to do. Apologies if I have not followed any correct protocols. Kindly assist. Thank you. Serrwinner (talk) 17:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@Serrwinner: Sure, I'd be happy to review it. Happy holidays! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot pal. Happy holidays! Serrwinner (talk) 19:09, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from PianoMusicLover (21:19, 20 December 2023)

Hello there: Do citations always have to end up being footnotes? Or is there a way to have a citation without adding more footnotes to the article? Thanks for the help! --PianoMusicLover (talk) 21:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@PianoMusicLover: Hi, yes inline citations end up as footnotes. However, if you are writing a paragraph and one source supports it, you don't need to cite it everywhere, just at the end of that paragraph. If you have any other questions, lmk. Happy holidays! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! PianoMusicLover (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Can you also tell me would the "External link" section be the correct place to put a newspaper article interview? Thanks! PianoMusicLover (talk) 01:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@PianoMusicLover: If you believe it will enhance a reader's understanding of the article, yes. Please see Wikipedia:External links for further guidance. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Request to review a draft article

Hello, can you help me review the draft:Mohamed Aarab I created it and added reliable sources that represent a musical personality. I also reformulated it, as some other officials requested. I hope you can help me. Thank you. Sorry for the inconvenience. Chamosuhdod (talk) 23:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@Chamosuhdod: Hi, I'm probably not the best person to check that draft as the majority of sources are in Arabic, which I can not read. Sorry about that, and happy holidays. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Not everyone wants to review it, knowing that there are many pages that have Arab sources and have been approved, for example Cheb (musician) Abduallah El Sharif And many more It's a page representing a musical character, sorry for the inconvenience Chamosuhdod (talk) 01:45, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@Chamosuhdod: Someone will eventually get to your page, please be patient. Unfortunately, not many people here can understand Arabic, and machine translation isn't the best. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Nearly five days have passed and there is no response. I hope you will try to review it because, as I said, there are many pages that have Arab sources and have been approved. You are more experienced, so I have full confidence in your review Chamosuhdod (talk) 01:59, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@Chamosuhdod: Five days is still remarkably shorter than a few months ago, where articles were taking up to five months to be reviewed. Taking a quick look at your page, I believe it's unlikely to pass, as most of the sources are rather short. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 02:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

What does it mean it's short? Reliable secondary Arabic sources: As I mentioned previously, there are pages that contain Arabic sources and pages that contain only two sources It was accepted Chamosuhdod (talk) 11:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

As I mentioned previously, I don't speak Arabic, nor am I familiar with its news orgnizations, so I can't accurately assess whether the sources are reliable or secondary. I'd like to note that none of the two articles you mentioned have been through the AfC process, so haven't been through this type of review. Additionally, just because another article exists, doesn't mean it should. Please see Wikipedia:Inclusion is not an indicator of notability. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

So what is the solution? Everyone says he does not speak Arabic, but how were these two articles that I mentioned previously approved because they have Arabic sources? Chamosuhdod (talk) 14:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

As I mentioned, none of the two articles have passed through the AfC process. The solution is to wait, someone will eventually review your article, whether because they speak Arabic, or whether they are willing to use a machine translation. Please note that everyone here is a volunteer and reviews whenever and whatever they feel like. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 14:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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@Robertsky: Happy Holidays to you too! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 15:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Ntokozo Mbuli (10:23, 28 December 2023)

How do i add pictures --Ntokozo Mbuli (talk) 10:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Ntokozo Mbuli!

To add an image, just click on the "Insert" button on the toolbar at the top of the page. The first option in the dropdown menu should be "Images and Media." When uploading, please ensure that the image is released under a compatible copyright license. Please see Help:Introduction to images with VisualEditor for more information, and a step-by-step guide. Happy new year! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:43, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia Manual of Style: Infobox

Happy Holidays! I asked a “user” to provide the rule they used to indiscriminately delete the occupations from an infobox, and they failed to respond. I have reviewed Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes, and it seems I complied with “the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored, with exceptions noted below).” I’m not clear what to do next: get a second opinion, or simply restore what was taken? Considering the source: the user has a vandalism rating of 3, and uses profanity in disagreements with other editors, i.e., a clear liability to both Wikipedia's reputation, and the cohesion of its editors. SPS888 (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @SPS888:

Just to be clear, that guideline also states that there is no rule for what to include in an infobox; it should be determined via consensus on a case-by-case basis. Additionally, the vandalism rating isn't a reflection on the user (I have the same template on my user page!), it's supposed to give editors an idea of how frequently others are vandalizing articles, enabling us to determine if we need to help patrol recent changes. My recommendation is to discuss with the editor; if they fail to respond after a reasonable amount of time, feel free to restore.

However, I'd like to note that their removal of the middle name is correct. The "Name" parameter is supposed to be for the name most commonly used in sources, not their full name (which can go in birth_name). Most of the sources I checked in the article refer to her as LaDoris Cordell. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism is a pretty harsh word; I’m not sure if it’s a productive way to label the issue…  Regarding the naming convention: If television appearances are included in the sources, the birth name is included more often than not: https://judgecordell.com/audio-video. 

I think the overriding issue here is one user is creating content in good faith, while another is indiscriminately destroying content without explanation. It's inefficient. SPS888 (talk) 19:03, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Google shows nearly triple the hits for "LaDoris Cordell" compared to "LaDoris Hazzard Cordell." Regardless, just restore what you feel needs to be restored, and if a revert happens again, begin dispute resolution as necessary. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Okay. I've reverted to "name most commonly used," and added "birth_name." Thank you for your help. SPS888 (talk) 00:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Can/should the Template "Infobox person" be changed?

Hi, @ ARandomName123: Instead of reverting to the "occupations" that were deleted, can/should the "Template Infobox person" be changed to "Template: Infobox officeholder." If so, how? Why: I'm not clear how to add the following to the current Infobox template:

Judge of the Superior Court, Santa Clara County, San Jose, California

In office

June 1988 - February 2001

Elected: county-wide contest

Judge of the Municipal Court, Santa Clara County, San Jose, California

In office

April 1982 - June 1988

Appointed: Gov. Jerry Brown SPS888 (talk) 16:18, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

@SPS888: Yes, that should be fine. I've converted the template to Template:Infobox Judge (which is a version of Template:Infobox officeholder) by simply switching the wikitext from {{Infobox person to {{Infobox judge. You can fill in the necessary office details as needed. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

An example for proper use can be found at Template:Infobox_officeholder/example#Judge. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you, again and again! SPS888 (talk) 16:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)