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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:42, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Leena Al-Hadid

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Ambassador Leena Al-Hadid in 2018
Ambassador Leena Al-Hadid in 2018

Created by Droodkin (talk). Self-nominated at 10:44, 9 November 2019 (UTC).

  • Hi Droodkin, review follows: article created 6 November; article exceeds minimum length; article is sufficiently well written; article is referenced inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't notice any overly close paraphrasing from the sources (aside from unavoidable repetition of job titles etc.); hook is reasonably interesting and mentioned in the article (I changed the article from "board of directors" to "board of governors" which I think is correct?); The ref provided backs up the claim, I have added it to the appropriate sentence in the article; image is appropriately licensed and works OK at small scale; QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry, this really isn't hooky. Do you have another suggestion? Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Hello, thank you for your comment. I have proposed an alternate hook. Please feel free to Wikify the countries if needed.Droodkin (talk) 08:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Droodkin, ALT1 is above the 200 character limit for a hook. I've also just noticed that the statement about being ambassador to "Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and Slovenia" is mentioned in the lead but not in the main body of the article and has no reference. Could you remedy this please? - Dumelow (talk) 09:00, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello Dumelow, I have edited the article appropriately and referenced the line. Regarding the hook and considering the article, I think the original hook is the most interesting one I can think of.Droodkin (talk) 10:48, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Droodkin, referencing now resolved. Just requesting a second opinion on ALT0 - Dumelow (talk) 09:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • If you're looking for an image slot, the hook has to be a lot hookier than just saying which job she was appointed to. I noticed you have almost no personal details about her. More detail could help to make a better hook. Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I tried trimming the character count. --evrik (talk) 16:48, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, thank you for your edit. I support ALT1a even if it excludes the image. Droodkin (talk) 17:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • All these hooks follow the formula "Did you know that X=Y?" It is not hooky to list someone's jobs. If you could add more personal information to the page, you could come up with a real hook. Yoninah (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I have looked for source articles on the life of Ambassador Al-Hadid, and have found little to work with. Can you live with Alt1a? --evrik (talk) 19:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, but it won't be for the image slot. Yoninah (talk) 19:33, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Please spell out IAEA:
  • Promoted, but returned to WP:DYKN for further work. Her chairmanship ended in September. Seems to me her permanent seat at the UN is just as important. BTW, a better source is needed for her ambassadorships to the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovenia, and the article only calls her a "representative" to Austria. Yoninah (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT1c: ... that in 2018 and 2019 Leena Al-Hadid, chaired the International Atomic Energy Agency board of governors?
  • ALT2: ... that Leena Al-Hadid, serves as Jordan's permanent representative to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe and the United Nations in Vienna? "H.E. Leena Al-Hadid, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to the OSCE, with OSCE Secretary General Thomas Greminger". OSCE Secretary General. 2018-09-05. and ">"Ambassador Leena Al-Hadid Takes Over as New Chairperson of IAEA Board of Governors". International Atomic Energy Agency. 2018-09-24. Retrieved 2019-11-06.
  • @Evrik: thank you, but these are more "Did you know that X=Y" hooks. Unless the nominator can come up with more personal/biographical details, I'm inclined to fail this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: While I might agree with you x=y thing, the fact is she is a woman from outside the western hemisphere. I'm inclined to accept the x=y hook. --evrik (talk) 19:14, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: Well, you need another reviewer. IMO ALT2 looks better than 1c. Yoninah (talk) 19:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
evrik, ALT1c is OK but for ALT2 there is no mention of the OSCE in the article outside of the lead and no citation - Dumelow (talk) 08:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Dumelow: I added text to the article and citations above. If this meets your approval, please approve this so we can move along. :-) --evrik (talk) 18:38, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
  • All good - Dumelow (talk) 18:50, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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