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One does not need to indicate the "importance or significance" of a subject when the subject is universally known. Is there anyone (anyone at all) who does not know the words and melody to this often covered children's song? And as far as I know, "The Bear" who went over the mountain is not a "real" bear. Additional information and facts will certainly be added over time.Esasus (talk) 04:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The speedy deletion tag was completely missapplied (the basis tagged is only applicable to real persons, organizations and web content). I have accordingly declined speedy deletion. I do, however, strongly suggest you read our verifiability policy, and associated pages that can help you carry our verification, such as Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

other lyrics?

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I learned it as:

The bear went over the mountain, and what do you think he saw?

He saw another mountain...

Kingturtle (talk) 01:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

parody

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He saw a box of Ex-Lax. . . (a brand of laxative)

He ate the box of Ex-Lax. . .

He made another mountain . . .

Kostaki mou (talk) 05:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really need to add any possible version of lyrics? What about "He drank a bottle of Coke... (a brand of soft drink)"? Or perhaps, "He ate a bunch of children..."? Or maybe you'd be more comfortable with, He kicked an armadillo..."? Please resist the urge to add crap to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.74.73 (talk) 19:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Crap is in the anus of the beholder. "My" variant was a common parody, which I heard from more than one source. Your variant is something you thought up on the spot to raise yourself up by putting others down. I think you are out of order.Kostaki mou (talk) 01:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

tune

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Is there any reliable info on how the lyrics got attached to the tune of Malbruck s'en va t'en guerre? 100.15.120.122 (talk) 00:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is much better known in English-speaking countries as "For he's t a jolly good fellow." Like other well-known tunes (e.g., "Ta-ra-ra-boom de-ay," "Ah, vous dirais-je maman" and "Merrily we roll along"), it has been used for many sets of lyrics. Kostaki mou (talk) 19:07, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In “The Conquering Family” by Thomas B Constain, a book about the Plantagenets, he refers to this melody as the first marching song to be played when Richard I landed at Acre during the Third Crusade: “Richard was given a frenzied welcome. Military bands blared, trumpets rang out, voices were raised in songs of the Crusades, particularly the first marching song (the air of which is still used to the words of The Bear Went Over the Mountain)...” Rantedia (talk)

Isn't the tune here very similar to "Wellington's Victory" by Beethoven? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.33.17 (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History

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Some time frame would be helpful. As a start, I know Dick Powell with "The Foursome" recorded the song for Decca in 1939[1] Numbersinstitute (talk) 00:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You might look into a Beethoven concerto which pre-dates all of these references. 2600:6C4E:E7E:C7FF:1035:57CC:3DFD:A98A (talk) 20:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Good Fellows Medley". Internet Archive. 2017-04-27. Retrieved 2017-08-04.

Here's a very relevant link to another Wikipedia article: [sen va-t-en guerre|a French marching song from the War of the Spanish Succession] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.50.233.138 (talk) 02:23, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]