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Lead Section

The Lead Section has a bit "(pronounced The Hundred [2])" that seems a dubious source. The author of the cited item does not seem to cite that as information from the author of the book, nor anyone involved in the television series. This seems to be the article author presenting their opinion as fact, without any authority or credibility to do so. Can anyone find any interviews with people who work on the show, or the author, that indicates that is how they believe it should be pronounced? Otherwise, it seems like we should assume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_(number), "100 or one hundred." Real Anon Z (talk) 19:36, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome to find such interviews. Until then, we use the source per WP:V and WP:RS, and we most certainly do not assume and "present our own opinions as fact". -- Alex^TW 01:13, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since we are not required to source information that comes from the primary source, shouldn't the fact that they say "Previously on The Hundred" at the top of every episode be enough to clarify that that IS how it's pronounced??Rcarter555 (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hear hear! —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:10, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is definitely something required to take into consideration. -- Alex^TW 06:38, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Synopsis Section - Discuss if Necessary

The synopsis has several perceived errors which now are updated. This TalkPage topic should provide explanation. According to the reference link - referred to in the previous topic on 'Lead Section' which is from 2014 | Dangerous planet Earth: The CW's new sci-fi drama 'The 100' premieres, the population of the 'Ark' is nearly 4,000 people (not 2,400). Added already existing reference to sentence. In same paragraph (of the referring citation), overpopulation (of The Ark) is the rationale for 'The 100' being sent to the planet surface, in order to relieve The Ark's overpopulation situation, not failing life-support. This is not to say that the life support was either failing or not failing, but it would stand to reason that an overpopulated environment would clearly also make that failure inevitable. The synopsis has been updated accordingly. Please review and revert as necessary. B'H. 172.250.246.150 (talk) 19:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the source that says 4,000 refers to the book series. Since this article is about the TV series and not the book series, what is stated in the episodes is more authoritative as a reference. --AussieLegend (✉) 09:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. The link refers to the television series. Did you actually | click on the link? The website is a television listing and review resource. There's no book mentioned, but to say that the book series is up and coming. The source quotes 4,000, and clearly indicates that the book series hasn't yet been published. It cannot possibly refer to the book series. This is not to say that the television show says or does not say 2,400. I do not watch the show. The website is clearly referring to the television show, however. B'H 172.250.246.150 (talk) 11:31, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I clicked on the link. If you do so you will see "is based on an up-and-coming book series by Kass Morgan." It also says the TV series "premieres Wednesday, March 19, on The CW." The article was obviously written before the series premiered, when virtually nothing was known about it. The book series was released in September 2013, 6 months before the TV series and since the book series was apparently not released at the time the article was published, any claims about the TV series must be treated as dubious. Six months is a long time in TV. Things can and do change. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:57, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I've been looking into that, and you are making perfect sense. The book predates the television production. Clearly. So, if this source is wrong on that issue, is it a reliable source? You've just said it's to be treated dubiously. In the previous topic on this talk page, this source is used to cite the pronunciation of the title 'The 100'. I'm assuming the source is correct on some issues but not on others. Doesn't "reliability" conflict with this by definition? Sorry to belabor this.

In any case, the major concern is, what is the source for the lower population number of "2,400" which is a big difference from 4,000. How would one cite that? If it's not verifiable, is it a crucial inclusion in the synopsis section? I'm perfectly happy to redact or revert this, but maybe it's better to have a reliable source to refute the 4,000 number in this article. If the source I'm using is wrong, then I'm assuming there needs to be at least one source, and preferably more than one, that will provide a resolution by stating the population of 'The Ark' is 2,400. B'H. 172.250.246.150 (talk) 16:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The problems with the source are time related. The pronunciation has never changed. It's issues within the timeline of the series that must be questioned. It's not that the source isn't reliable, it's that claims made more than 6 months before the series first aired can be questionable. In the first season things that had been stated in early episodes were changes as time went by. As for the population, I haven't found a single reliable source that confirms the population at any time. I haven't re-watched all of the episodes and there might be something there. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:20, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. So I can revise the edit, and remove the disputed item. As a compromise, since the 2,400 number has no citations as of yet, wouldn't it be copacetic to simply replace it with the word "thousands?" When a reliable source can be cited, it easily can be updated. I think the main idea is simply, The Ark is beyond its population capacity, which is jeopardizing the survival of the entire community because the life support system was never designed to handle so many people. Are we agreed? B'H. 172.250.246.150 (talk) 19:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes broken (junk text)

Some infoboxes are broken... If I hover over "Lindsey Morgan" or "Ricky Whittle" I see formatting text, not the expected infobox. Since I have no idea how to fix this, I am just posting in the hope that someone will perform the fix. 95.150.176.116 (talk) 09:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]