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COI tag (October 2024)

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Based on off-wiki evidence, there's compelling evidence that a major authorship holder of this page has a strong COI with this subject. Graywalls (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Graywalls, also based on the conversations found in Archive 1 of the article, this may well be an autobiography. Netherzone (talk) 22:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where do you see the definitive statement? While I have my own personal conclusion, based on what I can see there, I'm hesitant to confirm or deny the allegation :\ Graywalls (talk) 22:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also see discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Moorer. Netherzone (talk) 23:04, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Graywalls, Read through this version of Archive 1. [1] It seems that some things were removed from the archive at some point. You are correct that the strongest evidence is not on Wikipedia. Netherzone (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Netherzone, yep read it. Although, according to Wiki policy, I feel like we still can't connect a user name to a name without a direct statement by a user name identifying themselves. Graywalls (talk) 00:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Smatprt:, articles on BLPs are held to rather high sourcing standards. That said, in this edit, you added the article subject's full date of birth without any citation. May I ask where this information came from and to provide a proper citation for it? I am removing it for now. Graywalls (talk) 01:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go, although not sure if it qualifies. https://www.carmelresidents.org/cra-hosts---history-of-carmels-live-theatre
Also on the fb page, which is public.
https://www.facebook.com/StephenMoorer?mibextid=LQQJ4d Smatprt (talk) 15:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smatprt, as a COI editor, in particular because you are a COI-PAID editor, please use the edit request system, the process of which is clearly stated in WP:COI and here: guidelines for using edit requests. Here is a link to the special "Wizard" tool that COI-PAID editors use: Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard/Paid that makes it really easy. Won't you please consider abiding by the guidelines on this article as well as others? Netherzone (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning! I was just replying to Graywalls. He asked a specific question, I assume expecting a reply, so I provided one. I'm not requesting a specific edit, especially on something so benign, but Graywalls said he was "removing it for now", so I thought he was waiting for my response. Smatprt (talk) 18:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Netherzone might be splitting hair here, but I wonder if that Facebook is usable. WP:DOB says verified accounts can be used, but the one in question is not, although I don't really doubt the authenticity given that the subject in questionable isn't that notable. Graywalls (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ABOUTSELF, which applies to a person's own social media accounts, including Facebook, says that they "may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they are established experts in the field, so long as:
  • The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;
  • It does not involve claims about third parties;
  • It does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
  • There is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and
  • The article is not based primarily on such sources.
So Moorer's own birthdate from his Facebook account can be used in the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]